I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
to recommend a particular brand/model.

--
The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here
Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg

Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
> to recommend a particular brand/model.
>
A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)

I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
smallholding or something in between?

--
Chris Green
·

Chris Green wrote:
> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
>> to recommend a particular brand/model.
>>
> A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
>
> I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
> small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
> smallholding or something in between?
>

Something in between.

--
The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here
Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg

Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
> >> to recommend a particular brand/model.
> >>
> > A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
> >
> > I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
> > small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
> > smallholding or something in between?
> >
>
> Something in between.
>
Oh come now, tell us some more! :-)

How much do you want to do at a time? Is it just grass or weeds that
you want to cut? Etc.

.... and do you prefer electric or petrol or cordless? Though this
choice does depend somewhat on the application.

--
Chris Green
·

Chris Green wrote:
> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris Green wrote:
>>> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
>>>> to recommend a particular brand/model.
>>>>
>>> A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
>>>
>>> I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
>>> small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
>>> smallholding or something in between?
>>>
>>
>> Something in between.
>>
> Oh come now, tell us some more! :-)
>
> How much do you want to do at a time? Is it just grass or weeds that
> you want to cut? Etc.
>
> ... and do you prefer electric or petrol or cordless? Though this
> choice does depend somewhat on the application.
>

Electric. Substantial weeds. A passage serving the backs of the houses
(where I come from such a passage is called an entry) used to be sprayed
by the council (i.e., contractors engaged by the council) to keep the
weeds down. It no longer is, and I am concerned that the weeds will
displace or break the paving stones. So I am going to de-weed it my self.

--
The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here
Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg

Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Chris Green wrote:
> >>> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
> >>>> to recommend a particular brand/model.
> >>>>
> >>> A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
> >>>
> >>> I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
> >>> small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
> >>> smallholding or something in between?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Something in between.
> >>
> > Oh come now, tell us some more! :-)
> >
> > How much do you want to do at a time? Is it just grass or weeds that
> > you want to cut? Etc.
> >
> > ... and do you prefer electric or petrol or cordless? Though this
> > choice does depend somewhat on the application.
> >
>
> Electric. Substantial weeds. A passage serving the backs of the houses
> (where I come from such a passage is called an entry) used to be sprayed
> by the council (i.e., contractors engaged by the council) to keep the
> weeds down. It no longer is, and I am concerned that the weeds will
> displace or break the paving stones. So I am going to de-weed it my self.
>
OK, then in my moderate experience Bosch and Ryobi are OK, you
probably need something in the 400 to 500 watt area if we're talking
mains electric. I have a Ryobi RLT4027 which is 400W and is our
'small' strimmer, it's put up with a fair amount of abuse and still
works OK. I think it's been superseded now.

The Ryobi I have has a swivelling head and an adjustable height handle
which I find handy. My previous Bosch had little wheels which was
also handy when getting under overhanging branches.

--
Chris Green
·

In article <saftin$134b$1@gioia.aioe.org>, peterxpercival@hotmail.com
says...
>
> Chris Green wrote:
> > Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Chris Green wrote:
> >>> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
> >>>> to recommend a particular brand/model.
> >>>>
> >>> A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
> >>>
> >>> I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
> >>> small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
> >>> smallholding or something in between?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Something in between.
> >>
> > Oh come now, tell us some more! :-)
> >
> > How much do you want to do at a time? Is it just grass or weeds that
> > you want to cut? Etc.
> >
> > ... and do you prefer electric or petrol or cordless? Though this
> > choice does depend somewhat on the application.
> >
>
> Electric. Substantial weeds. A passage serving the backs of the houses
> (where I come from such a passage is called an entry) used to be sprayed
> by the council (i.e., contractors engaged by the council) to keep the
> weeds down. It no longer is, and I am concerned that the weeds will
> displace or break the paving stones. So I am going to de-weed it my self.

It would be cheaper and longer-effective to spray the weeds yourself.

Janet

Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
> In article <saftin$134b$1@gioia.aioe.org>, peterxpercival@hotmail.com
> says...
> >
> > Chris Green wrote:
> > > Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Chris Green wrote:
> > >>> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
> > >>>> to recommend a particular brand/model.
> > >>>>
> > >>> A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
> > >>> small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
> > >>> smallholding or something in between?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Something in between.
> > >>
> > > Oh come now, tell us some more! :-)
> > >
> > > How much do you want to do at a time? Is it just grass or weeds that
> > > you want to cut? Etc.
> > >
> > > ... and do you prefer electric or petrol or cordless? Though this
> > > choice does depend somewhat on the application.
> > >
> >
> > Electric. Substantial weeds. A passage serving the backs of the houses
> > (where I come from such a passage is called an entry) used to be sprayed
> > by the council (i.e., contractors engaged by the council) to keep the
> > weeds down. It no longer is, and I am concerned that the weeds will
> > displace or break the paving stones. So I am going to de-weed it my self.
>
> It would be cheaper and longer-effective to spray the weeds yourself.
>
Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
by the council.

--
Chris Green
·

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

>Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>> In article <saftin$134b$1@gioia.aioe.org>, peterxpercival@hotmail.com
>> says...
>> >
>> > Chris Green wrote:
>> > > Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Chris Green wrote:
>> > >>> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
>> > >>>> to recommend a particular brand/model.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>> A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
>> > >>> small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
>> > >>> smallholding or something in between?
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> Something in between.
>> > >>
>> > > Oh come now, tell us some more! :-)
>> > >
>> > > How much do you want to do at a time? Is it just grass or weeds that
>> > > you want to cut? Etc.
>> > >
>> > > ... and do you prefer electric or petrol or cordless? Though this
>> > > choice does depend somewhat on the application.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Electric. Substantial weeds. A passage serving the backs of the houses
>> > (where I come from such a passage is called an entry) used to be sprayed
>> > by the council (i.e., contractors engaged by the council) to keep the
>> > weeds down. It no longer is, and I am concerned that the weeds will
>> > displace or break the paving stones. So I am going to de-weed it my self.
>>
>> It would be cheaper and longer-effective to spray the weeds yourself.
>>
>Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>by the council.

But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
be showing visible signs of distress.

--
Chris

Gardening in West Cornwall, very mild, sheltered
from the West, but open to the North and East.

Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
>On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>>Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>>be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>>by the council.
>
>But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
>deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
>insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
>weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
>won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
>be showing visible signs of distress.

Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.

--
Algernon

On 18/06/2021 22:07, Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>>> Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>>> be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>>> by the council.
>>
>> But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
>> deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
>> insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
>> weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
>> won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
>> be showing visible signs of distress.
>
> Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.

See Section 4 on page 6 at
<https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/pdfs/weedkiller-for-home-gardeners.pdf>

--

Jeff

In article <iGlL$YHBsQzgFwnR@invalid.com>, Ben@nowhere.com says...
>
> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
> >On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> >>Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
> >>be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
> >>by the council.
> >
> >But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
> >deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
> >insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
> >weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
> >won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
> >be showing visible signs of distress.
>
> Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.

Yes they are.

file:///C:/Users/Janet/AppData/Local/Temp/RHS-Weedkillers-for-Home-
Gardeners.pdf

Janet

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 22:07:13 +0100, Algernon Goss-Custard
<Ben@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
>>On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>>>Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>>>be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>>>by the council.
>>
>>But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
>>deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
>>insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
>>weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
>>won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
>>be showing visible signs of distress.
>
>Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.

<chuckle> https://tinyurl.com/yj5atfsz

--
Chris

Gardening in West Cornwall, very mild, sheltered
from the West, but open to the North and East.

On 18/06/2021 18:34, Chris Green wrote:
> Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

>>
>> It would be cheaper and longer-effective to spray the weeds yourself.
>>
> Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
> be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
> by the council.
>
Did you know that if you boil bleach, you get a dilute solution of
sodium chlorate?

And salt, but the combination is likely to kill everything.

Do boil outside and not in aluminium - some chlorine is produced

--
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

On 18/06/2021 20:26, Chris Hogg wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>
>> Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>>> In article <saftin$134b$1@gioia.aioe.org>, peterxpercival@hotmail.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Chris Green wrote:
>>>>> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Chris Green wrote:
>>>>>>> Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm thinking of buying a strimmer and will be pleased if anyone wishes
>>>>>>>> to recommend a particular brand/model.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A little more information wouldn't go amiss! :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I.e. what is it going to be used for - trimming the edges of your
>>>>>>> small lawn or hacking through the undergrowth at the end of your
>>>>>>> smallholding or something in between?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something in between.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh come now, tell us some more! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> How much do you want to do at a time? Is it just grass or weeds that
>>>>> you want to cut? Etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... and do you prefer electric or petrol or cordless? Though this
>>>>> choice does depend somewhat on the application.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Electric. Substantial weeds. A passage serving the backs of the houses
>>>> (where I come from such a passage is called an entry) used to be sprayed
>>>> by the council (i.e., contractors engaged by the council) to keep the
>>>> weeds down. It no longer is, and I am concerned that the weeds will
>>>> displace or break the paving stones. So I am going to de-weed it my self.
>>>
>>> It would be cheaper and longer-effective to spray the weeds yourself.
>>>
>> Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>> be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>> by the council.
>
> But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
> deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
> insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
> weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
> won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
> be showing visible signs of distress.
>
the path clearing weedkillers also have a poison that will prevent
annual weeds from pooping up for a few months at least

--
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

On 18/06/2021 22:07, Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>>> Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>>> be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>>> by the council.
>>
>> But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
>> deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
>> insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
>> weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
>> won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
>> be showing visible signs of distress.
>
> Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.
>
I wonder what I bought last week that said 'contains glyphosate' was then?

--
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell

On 18/06/2021 22:40, Janet wrote:
> In article <iGlL$YHBsQzgFwnR@invalid.com>, Ben@nowhere.com says...
>>
>> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>>>> Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>>>> be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>>>> by the council.
>>>
>>> But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
>>> deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
>>> insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
>>> weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
>>> won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
>>> be showing visible signs of distress.
>>
>> Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.
>
> Yes they are.
>
> file:///C:/Users/Janet/AppData/Local/Temp/RHS-Weedkillers-for-Home-
> Gardeners.pdf
>
> Janet
>
Darling, I dont even have a C: drive...

--
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell

Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 18/06/2021 22:07, Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
>> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>>>> Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
>>>> be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
>>>> by the council.
>>>
>>> But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
>>> deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
>>> insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
>>> weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
>>> won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
>>> be showing visible signs of distress.
>>
>> Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.
>
> See Section 4 on page 6 at
> <https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/pdfs/weedkiller-for-home-gardeners.pdf>
>
That's a useful document. Thank you for posting the link.

--
The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here
Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg

On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 14:36:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 18/06/2021 20:26, Chris Hogg wrote:
>>
>> But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
>> deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
>> insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
>> weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
>> won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
>> be showing visible signs of distress.
>>
>the path clearing weedkillers also have a poison that will prevent
>annual weeds from pooping up for a few months at least

In the past they used to contain Simazine, which was very effective,
but like a lot of effective things, it was banned by the EU, probably
never to return. I believe the replacements aren't so good.

--
Chris

Gardening in West Cornwall, very mild, sheltered
from the West, but open to the North and East.

In article <saks2a$tps$4@dont-email.me>, tnp@invalid.invalid says...
>
> On 18/06/2021 22:40, Janet wrote:
> > In article <iGlL$YHBsQzgFwnR@invalid.com>, Ben@nowhere.com says...
> >>
> >> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> posted
> >>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:34:16 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> >>>> Except that I doubt the weedkillers available to 'domestic' users will
> >>>> be anywhere near as powerful and effective as the ones that were used
> >>>> by the council.
> >>>
> >>> But merely strimming them will only take the tops off, and for
> >>> deep-rooted weeds such as dandelions, docks or thistles that's
> >>> insufficient to kill them - they just sprout again. A glyphosate-based
> >>> weedkiller will get down to the roots and kill the whole plant. It
> >>> won't be instantaneous, but after a week or ten days the weeds should
> >>> be showing visible signs of distress.
> >>
> >> Glyphosate weedkillers are no longer available to the general public.
> >
> > Yes they are.
> >
> > file:///C:/Users/Janet/AppData/Local/Temp/RHS-Weedkillers-for-Home-
> > Gardeners.pdf
> >
> > Janet
> >
> Darling, I dont even have a C: drive...

Then you don't stand a chance with me, mister.

Janet