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* Four Years LeftAndy
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`* Re: Four Years LeftJeff Gaines
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 |`* Re: Four Years LeftAndy
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 by: Andy - Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:51 UTC

For W10 support

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date

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 by: Dan - Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:09 UTC

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 15:51:42 +0100, Andy <user@example.net> wrote:

>For W10 support
>
>https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date

Windows 10 being the "last version of Windows"?

Really???

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 by: Adrian Caspersz - Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:49 UTC

On 18/06/2021 19:09, Dan wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 15:51:42 +0100, Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>> For W10 support
>>
>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date
>
>
> Windows 10 being the "last version of Windows"?
>
> Really???

10X rose like a lead balloon

--
Adrian C

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 18 Jun 2021 19:40 UTC

On 18/06/2021 in message
<SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:

>For W10 support
>
>https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date

I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards. It's an
OS, not a work of art.

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
I've been through the desert on a horse with no name.
It was a right bugger to get him back when he ran off.

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 by: Dan - Sun, 20 Jun 2021 20:28 UTC

On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 18/06/2021 in message
><SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>
>>For W10 support
>>
>>https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date
>
>I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards. It's an
>OS, not a work of art.

Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11?
Time will only tell.

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 by: Andy - Sun, 20 Jun 2021 20:57 UTC

On 20/06/2021 21:28, Dan wrote:
> On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 18/06/2021 in message
>> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>>
>>> For W10 support
>>>
>>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date
>>
>> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards. It's an
>> OS, not a work of art.
>
>
> Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11?
> Time will only tell.
>
I think having gotten most folk on Win 10 for free, they will want
payback with win 11.

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 by: Chris - Mon, 21 Jun 2021 06:55 UTC

Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
> On 20/06/2021 21:28, Dan wrote:
>> On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
>> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/06/2021 in message
>>> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>>> For W10 support
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date
>>>
>>> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>>> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards. It's an
>>> OS, not a work of art.
>>
>>
>> Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11?
>> Time will only tell.
>>
> I think having gotten most folk on Win 10 for free, they will want
> payback with win 11.

Doubtful. No-one charges for OS updates anymore. It'll be free because
Microsoft will want as many people as possible to move to 11.

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 by: Gordon - Mon, 21 Jun 2021 08:36 UTC

On 2021-06-21, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>> On 20/06/2021 21:28, Dan wrote:
>>> On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
>>> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/06/2021 in message
>>>> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For W10 support
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date
>>>>
>>>> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>>>> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards. It's an
>>>> OS, not a work of art.
>>>
>>>
>>> Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11?
>>> Time will only tell.
>>>
>> I think having gotten most folk on Win 10 for free, they will want
>> payback with win 11.
>
> Doubtful. No-one charges for OS updates anymore. It'll be free because
> Microsoft will want as many people as possible to move to 11.
>
And thus into their walled garden. The money is in the store these days.

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 by: Chris - Mon, 21 Jun 2021 21:58 UTC

Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
> On 2021-06-21, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2021 21:28, Dan wrote:
>>>> On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
>>>> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/06/2021 in message
>>>>> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For W10 support
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>>>>> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards. It's an
>>>>> OS, not a work of art.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11?
>>>> Time will only tell.
>>>>
>>> I think having gotten most folk on Win 10 for free, they will want
>>> payback with win 11.
>>
>> Doubtful. No-one charges for OS updates anymore. It'll be free because
>> Microsoft will want as many people as possible to move to 11.
>>
> And thus into their walled garden. The money is in the store these days.

It'll be interesting to see how much of the chrome-alike win10X will be in
win11.

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 by: Andy - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 10:07 UTC

On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 06:55:41 +0000, Chris wrote:

> Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>> On 20/06/2021 21:28, Dan wrote:
>>> On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
>>> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/06/2021 in message
>>>> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For W10 support
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-
support-date
>>>>
>>>> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>>>> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards.
>>>> It's an OS, not a work of art.
>>>
>>>
>>> Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11? Time will only tell.
>>>
>> I think having gotten most folk on Win 10 for free, they will want
>> payback with win 11.
>
> Doubtful. No-one charges for OS updates anymore. It'll be free because
> Microsoft will want as many people as possible to move to 11.

You were right, details here

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22546801/microsoft-windows-11-free-
upgrade-details

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 by: Chris - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 12:10 UTC

Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 06:55:41 +0000, Chris wrote:
>
>> Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2021 21:28, Dan wrote:
>>>> On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
>>>> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/06/2021 in message
>>>>> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For W10 support
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-
> support-date
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>>>>> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards.
>>>>> It's an OS, not a work of art.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11? Time will only tell.
>>>>
>>> I think having gotten most folk on Win 10 for free, they will want
>>> payback with win 11.
>>
>> Doubtful. No-one charges for OS updates anymore. It'll be free because
>> Microsoft will want as many people as possible to move to 11.
>
> You were right

Of course! ;)

> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22546801/microsoft-windows-11-free-upgrade-details
>
>

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 by: Andy - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 13:02 UTC

On 25/06/2021 13:10, Chris wrote:
> Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 06:55:41 +0000, Chris wrote:
>>
>>> Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>> On 20/06/2021 21:28, Dan wrote:
>>>>> On 18 Jun 2021 19:40:42 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
>>>>> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/06/2021 in message
>>>>>> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For W10 support
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-
>> support-date
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
>>>>>> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards.
>>>>>> It's an OS, not a work of art.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Will Win 10 license keys work on Win 11? Time will only tell.
>>>>>
>>>> I think having gotten most folk on Win 10 for free, they will want
>>>> payback with win 11.
>>>
>>> Doubtful. No-one charges for OS updates anymore. It'll be free because
>>> Microsoft will want as many people as possible to move to 11.
>>
>> You were right
>
> Of course! ;)
>
>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22546801/microsoft-windows-11-free-upgrade-details
>>
>>
>
>
>
And this is how they get you in their walled garden

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22548480/windows-11-home-internet-connection-set-up

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 14:48 UTC

On 25/06/2021 in message
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>And this is how they get you in their walled garden
>
>https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22548480/windows-11-home-internet-connection-set-up

I have been complaining about this for some time and suggested it would
become compulsory, wonder if you can avoid it with the Pro version?

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
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life.
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 by: Theo - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 16:13 UTC

Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18/06/2021 in message
> <SMOdnQU_l8VjL1H9nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>
> >For W10 support
> >
> >https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533018/microsoft-windows-10-end-support-date
>
> I don't want a "sweeping visual rejuvenation", I'd like it to be 10%
> smaller, 10% quicker and for networking to be up to XP standards. It's an
> OS, not a work of art.

Somebody said they were pleased about the announcement of Windows 11,
because it means no more 6-monthly feature updates to break their Windows
10.

Theo

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 by: Chris - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:11 UTC

Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25/06/2021 in message
> <nuOdnctPaoJMTkj9nZ2dnUU78TednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Andy wrote:
>
>> And this is how they get you in their walled garden
>>
>> https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22548480/windows-11-home-internet-connection-set-up
>
> I have been complaining about this for some time and suggested it would
> become compulsory, wonder if you can avoid it with the Pro version?

I don't see how they can enforce that on people who already have a win10
local account. Especially if they're pushing it out via the same mechanism
as normal windows updates.

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