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* Cast cement coping stone sealant.David Paste
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Subject: Cast cement coping stone sealant.
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 by: David Paste - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 10:49 UTC

Hello all,

I have some (what I presume are) cast cement coping stones on a new wall.
They leave a grey dust on your skin / clothes after sitting / brushing against
them.

Can anyone recommend a sealant for these coping stones please?

I do not care if the colour or shade of them changes a little bit.

Thanks in advance,

Davod Paste.

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 by: John Rumm - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:36 UTC

On 05/09/2023 11:49, David Paste wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have some (what I presume are) cast cement coping stones on a new wall.
> They leave a grey dust on your skin / clothes after sitting / brushing against
> them.
>
> Can anyone recommend a sealant for these coping stones please?
>
> I do not care if the colour or shade of them changes a little bit.

A mix of SBR and water (or even waterproof PVA and water), will soak in
and stabilise the surface. Brush off loose dust first...

--
Cheers,

John.

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 by: David Paste - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 13:04 UTC

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 12:37:01 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:

> A mix of SBR and water (or even waterproof PVA and water), will soak in
> and stabilise the surface. Brush off loose dust first...

Thanks. What's SBR?

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From: rbw...@outlook.com (Robin)
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 by: Robin - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 15:15 UTC

On 05/09/2023 11:49, David Paste wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have some (what I presume are) cast cement coping stones on a new wall.
> They leave a grey dust on your skin / clothes after sitting / brushing against
> them.
>
> Can anyone recommend a sealant for these coping stones please?
>
> I do not care if the colour or shade of them changes a little bit.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> I'd try a stabilising solution. A cheap one I've used which leaves
little if any sheen is

https://www.everbuild.co.uk/products/landscaping/surface-cleaners-treatments/406-stabilising-solution/

albeit that's not breathable.

--
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 by: John Rumm - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 17:23 UTC

On 05/09/2023 14:04, David Paste wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 12:37:01 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
>
>> A mix of SBR and water (or even waterproof PVA and water), will soak in
>> and stabilise the surface. Brush off loose dust first...
>
>
> Thanks. What's SBR?

It is a bonding agent usually added to things like mortar and concrete
mixes, or to make waterproof cement slurry. It improves adhesion and
workability and reduces the amount of water required to get good
workability.

Available from any builders merchant and probably most diy places:

https://www.wickes.co.uk/KA-SBR-Bond-Co-Polymer-Bonding-Compound---1L/p/139061

It is milky in appearance when wet, but dries clear.

--
Cheers,

John.

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 by: alan_m - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 17:38 UTC

On 05/09/2023 18:23, John Rumm wrote:
> On 05/09/2023 14:04, David Paste wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 12:37:01 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
>>
>>> A mix of SBR and water (or even waterproof PVA and water), will soak in
>>> and stabilise the surface. Brush off loose dust first...
>>
>>
>> Thanks. What's SBR?
>
> It is a bonding agent usually added to things like mortar and concrete
> mixes, or to make waterproof cement slurry. It improves adhesion and
> workability and reduces the amount of water required to get good
> workability.
>
> Available from any builders merchant and probably most diy places:
>
> https://www.wickes.co.uk/KA-SBR-Bond-Co-Polymer-Bonding-Compound---1L/p/139061
>
> It is milky in appearance when wet, but dries clear.
>

In my local Wickes this smaller 1l pot is not with the rest of the
building supplies where you will find the 5L containers of SBR.
It can be found on one of the other shelves with some other unrelated
items :(

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 by: Colin Bignell - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 17:47 UTC

On 05/09/2023 18:38, alan_m wrote:
> On 05/09/2023 18:23, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 05/09/2023 14:04, David Paste wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 12:37:01 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
>>>
>>>> A mix of SBR and water (or even waterproof PVA and water), will soak in
>>>> and stabilise the surface. Brush off loose dust first...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. What's SBR?
>>
>> It is a bonding agent usually added to things like mortar and concrete
>> mixes, or to make waterproof cement slurry. It improves adhesion and
>> workability and reduces the amount of water required to get good
>> workability.
>>
>> Available from any builders merchant and probably most diy places:
>>
>> https://www.wickes.co.uk/KA-SBR-Bond-Co-Polymer-Bonding-Compound---1L/p/139061
>>
>> It is milky in appearance when wet, but dries clear.
>>
>
> In my local Wickes this smaller 1l pot is not with the rest of the
> building supplies where you will find the 5L containers of SBR.
> It can be found on one of the other shelves with some other unrelated
> items :(
>
>

That sounds about right for my experiences of Wickes.

--
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 by: David Paste - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 11:59 UTC

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 18:23:05 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:

> It is a bonding agent usually added to things like mortar and concrete
> mixes, or to make waterproof cement slurry. It improves adhesion and
> workability and reduces the amount of water required to get good
> workability.

Cheers!

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 by: David Paste - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 12:00 UTC

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 18:23:05 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:

> It is milky in appearance when wet, but dries clear.

Once it's dried, it doesn't go milky again when it gets rained on does it?

Re: Cast cement coping stone sealant.

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 by: John Rumm - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 19:25 UTC

On 06/09/2023 13:00, David Paste wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 18:23:05 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
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>> It is milky in appearance when wet, but dries clear.
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> Once it's dried, it doesn't go milky again when it gets rained on does it?

IME, SBR no.

Some (so called "water proof") PVAs may partially soften again if kept
wet enough long enough.

(generally a dilute solution will sink into the surface anyway rather
than sit on it)

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Cheers,

John.

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