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* OT: InstagramScott
+* Re: InstagramBrian Gaff
|`- Re: InstagramJohn J
+* Re: OT: InstagramTheo
|+* Re: OT: InstagramScott
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|+- Re: OT: InstagramSH
|`- Re: OT: InstagramBrian Gaff
`* Re: OT: InstagramJoe
 +- Re: OT: InstagramScott
 `- Re: OT: InstagramThe Natural Philosopher

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From: newsgro...@gefion.myzen.co.uk (Scott)
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: OT: Instagram
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:39:22 +0100
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 by: Scott - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:39 UTC

I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
(unless Usenet counts as social media, that is). I am wondering about
a limited foray into Instagram to be able to send periodic messages to
(younger) relatives. I do *not* want Instagram reading my contacts,
monitoring my shopping or tracking my movements. Can all of this be
suppressed? Would I be better to use the app on my phone or the
website on my PC for this purpose?

Re: Instagram

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From: brian1g...@gmail.com (Brian Gaff)
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Re: Instagram
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:40:42 +0100
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 by: Brian Gaff - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:40 UTC

Tell everyone to get onto Mastodon as its not allied to a data harvesting
company. The way a lot of things are kept free to the end user is by selling
your soul to others. Its a trade off of course, and we have been doing it
for years on the web through cookies and click through links. The problem of
course is that if there is enough annon data about it gradually gets more
likely that you are known.
Usenet can be scanned of course, but to me it seems like few big companies
bother, its mainly scammers. However take facebook, for example. They
actually encourage closed groups, but the people who run it, Meta can then
profile people by their interests and where they go, target adds to them and
even let nhs and other entities know info.
Google metrics are used to spot early signs of an outbreak of flu or some
other disease, which is probably a good thing in isolation.
Brian

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"Scott" <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is). I am wondering about
> a limited foray into Instagram to be able to send periodic messages to
> (younger) relatives. I do *not* want Instagram reading my contacts,
> monitoring my shopping or tracking my movements. Can all of this be
> suppressed? Would I be better to use the app on my phone or the
> website on my PC for this purpose?

Re: OT: Instagram

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From: theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Re: OT: Instagram
Date: 26 Sep 2023 14:30:02 +0100 (BST)
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
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 by: Theo - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:30 UTC

Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is). I am wondering about
> a limited foray into Instagram to be able to send periodic messages to
> (younger) relatives. I do *not* want Instagram reading my contacts,
> monitoring my shopping or tracking my movements. Can all of this be
> suppressed? Would I be better to use the app on my phone or the
> website on my PC for this purpose?

Avoid all phone apps, use the web site in a separate browser or an
'incognito' tab in your current browser. Once you have finished close the
tab.

Theo

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 by: Scott - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:36 UTC

On 26 Sep 2023 14:30:02 +0100 (BST), Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
>> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is). I am wondering about
>> a limited foray into Instagram to be able to send periodic messages to
>> (younger) relatives. I do *not* want Instagram reading my contacts,
>> monitoring my shopping or tracking my movements. Can all of this be
>> suppressed? Would I be better to use the app on my phone or the
>> website on my PC for this purpose?
>
>Avoid all phone apps, use the web site in a separate browser or an
>'incognito' tab in your current browser. Once you have finished close the
>tab.
>
Thanks. Would a VPN help? Is specifically blocking any access to
Outlook an option?

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From: theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
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 by: Theo - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 16:07 UTC

Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks. Would a VPN help?

Not much, unless you want to pretend to come from another country.

> Is specifically blocking any access to Outlook an option?

I don't think their browser tab would have any access to Outlook anyway?

Running a good adblocker like Ublock Origin (the Origin bit is important)
will skip a lot of their tracking and also block most of their ads -
recommended for any website.

Theo

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 by: SH - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:55 UTC

On 26/09/2023 14:30, Theo wrote:
> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
>> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is). I am wondering about
>> a limited foray into Instagram to be able to send periodic messages to
>> (younger) relatives. I do *not* want Instagram reading my contacts,
>> monitoring my shopping or tracking my movements. Can all of this be
>> suppressed? Would I be better to use the app on my phone or the
>> website on my PC for this purpose?
>
> Avoid all phone apps, use the web site in a separate browser or an
> 'incognito' tab in your current browser. Once you have finished close the
> tab.
>
> Theo

or run a sandbox if you have windows 10 or 11.... (its a lite version of
a virtual machine.

Useful if you want to check out possibly dodgy sites too

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 by: Brian Gaff - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:07 UTC

Whatsapp seems to suggest end to end encryption, at least until the UK
Government law comes in.
Brian

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"Theo" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
>> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is). I am wondering about
>> a limited foray into Instagram to be able to send periodic messages to
>> (younger) relatives. I do *not* want Instagram reading my contacts,
>> monitoring my shopping or tracking my movements. Can all of this be
>> suppressed? Would I be better to use the app on my phone or the
>> website on my PC for this purpose?
>
> Avoid all phone apps, use the web site in a separate browser or an
> 'incognito' tab in your current browser. Once you have finished close the
> tab.
>
> Theo

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 by: Joe - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 19:29 UTC

On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:39:22 +0100
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is).

No. Usenet is Anti-Social Media.

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 by: Scott - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 20:22 UTC

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 20:29:56 +0100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:39:22 +0100
>Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
>> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is).
>
>No. Usenet is Anti-Social Media.

I prefer it that way :-)

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 08:18 UTC

On 29/09/2023 20:29, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:39:22 +0100
> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
>> (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is).
>
> No. Usenet is Anti-Social Media.
>
LOL!
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wrong.

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 by: John J - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 20:06 UTC

On Tuesday, 26 September 2023 at 13:40:50 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Tell everyone to get onto Mastodon as its not allied to a data harvesting
> company. The way a lot of things are kept free to the end user is by selling
> your soul to others. Its a trade off of course, and we have been doing it
> for years on the web through cookies and click through links. The problem of
> course is that if there is enough annon data about it gradually gets more
> likely that you are known.
> Usenet can be scanned of course, but to me it seems like few big companies
> bother, its mainly scammers. However take facebook, for example. They
> actually encourage closed groups, but the people who run it, Meta can then
> profile people by their interests and where they go, target adds to them and
> even let nhs and other entities know info.
> Google metrics are used to spot early signs of an outbreak of flu or some
> other disease, which is probably a good thing in isolation.
> Brian
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> "Scott" <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:2s55hihlmdrlu45l7...@4ax.com...
> >I am not a big fan of social media, which I have successfully resisted
> > (unless Usenet counts as social media, that is). I am wondering about
> > a limited foray into Instagram to be able to send periodic messages to
> > (younger) relatives. I do *not* want Instagram reading my contacts,
> > monitoring my shopping or tracking my movements. Can all of this be
> > suppressed? Would I be better to use the app on my phone or the
> > website on my PC for this purpose?
I'm always intrigued by requests for me to accept cookies when I want to read something (possibly a news report). Reject all is my favoured response but do some people actually blithely accept all?

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