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Albo, Willy Waffle, Each Way, has been caught with his snout in the
trough.

https://is.gd/m5RwlU

"Labor leader Anthony Albanese claimed $17,169 in travel allowance from
taxpayers to stay at his mortgage-free Canberra apartment for 59 nights
during Sydney’s marathon lockdown while staging “guerilla” campaign
missions into Queensland and Tasmania.

News.com.au can reveal Mr Albanese claimed a travel allowance for 74
nights in Canberra, Queensland and Tasmania, while Parliament was only
sitting for 19 days during the same period.

By basing himself in the nation’s capital during the lockdowns in NSW
and Victoria, Mr Albanese was able to campaign in Queensland while the
Prime Minister remained largely locked down in Sydney and unable to
travel.

During that period he claimed more than $21,020 in travel allowance
including $17,169 in Canberra which he used as a staging post to run
missions into Queensland and Tasmania despite border controls requiring
Sydneysiders to quarantine.

Mr Albanese’s register of interest declaring his assets to Parliament
confirms Mr Albanese owns three homes - his Marrickville residence, a
Dulwich Hill investment property and his Canberra apartment."

And he seriously thinks he could be a good PM. Maybe he has caught
from Paul Keating, delusions of grandeur?

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 by: Ördög, the real De - Fri, 28 Jan 2022 22:23 UTC

Petz

/ This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
poster inputs /
/ snip more wanker crap manually /

> https://is.gd/m5RwlU

🙁️
Sorry, no results here!

(According to duckduckgo)

Might as well...as your links are generally lead to the bottom of the alt-
right cyber-sewers.

Well, Petz you have stated previously in numerous posts that you are
going to vote informally, so ... I'd say bring it on! DO IT!

Of course, no sane person would actually follow any of your voting
directives.

~~~
~~~
Blasting Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost yada yaada yada
> yayda yada yada three cemeteries
> I had an uncle that lived in Wellington.

Was he the one who bought for you that little tank of yours?

> He voted Liberal all his life until he passed away 10 years ago.
> Now he votes Labor.

How would you know that? Have you consulted him in a seance?

Hey, idiot Petz. OZ do not have any outcome significant voter-fraud
problem. Stop spewing that Trumpist big lie!
~~

--
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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
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- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
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 by: Ördög, the real De - Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:31 UTC

Petz

/snip/

> Why did he not use a train?

Show me an LNP Federal politician, any politician from the hard right
who'd take the train instead of private cars with drivers, or planes or
helicopters.

What a nice Murdoch anti-Labor beat up!

If we go down that kind of gotcha critique on politicians at least apply
it even evenhandedly to all politicians.

> Labor leader Anthony Albanese pledges $500m for Sydney-Newcastle fast
> rail

If we actually had an East-Coast very fast rail service your critique
might have had a real bite. But this day an age for a distance such as
Sydney to Canberra taking four and a half hours by train is a horrible
joke. No wonder how few people actually chose to take a train instead of
some form of private transport.

So nice try at Labor bashing but it is still a grand-FAIL! As per usual.

~~~
~~~
Busting Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> They just weren't doing Communism properly,
> Say all of today's Communists?

Would you disagree? On what grounds?
Care to cite which section in Marx's Communist Manifesto or even the
policy platform of Lenin calls for the establishment of an authoritarian
state capitalist personal cult terror state resulting in irresponsible
economical mismanagement and total annihilation of grassroots democracy?
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCv04f0RXfc >

Hey, Stalin was not even doing socialism properly let alone communism.

> "It cannot be overstated,

....that the USSR is no more, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot are all dead and the
World including those few communists still around have moved on with
their lives.
Only hard-right conservatives are stuck back in the f...ugly past
dreaming of slave labour, Xtian fundy theocracy, racial purity and the
fascist rule all over the planet.

> Russian Gulag survivor ....

.... and story teller A.Solzhenitsyn had obviously an axe to grind, and I
am not criticising him for that. But he was never a historian by any
scholarly sense of that word.
Of course you, Petz dear have been told that by a number of poster beside
me dozens of times but to no avail. You insist on spewing your goon-bag
fumes idiocy into Usenet.

But put the credit where the credit is due for this gem of a hatemonger
crap:
'A.Solzhenitsyn' according to David Duke, ex Grand Wizard of KKK,
revisonist, Antisemite and neo_Nazi creep.

~~

--
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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

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 by: Ördög, the real De - Sat, 29 Jan 2022 02:46 UTC

Petz

> Ördög
>> Petz
>>> Why did he not use a train?
>>
>> Show me an LNP Federal politician, any politician from the hard right
>> who'd take the train instead of private cars with drivers, or planes or
>> helicopters.
>> What a nice Murdoch anti-Labor beat up!
>> If we go down that kind of gotcha critique on politicians at least
>> apply it even evenhandedly to all politicians.
>>
>>> Labor leader Anthony Albanese pledges $500m for Sydney-Newcastle fast
>>> rail
>>
>> If we actually had an East-Coast very fast rail service your critique
>> might have had a real bite. But this day an age for a distance such as
>> Sydney to Canberra taking four and a half hours by train is a horrible
>> joke. No wonder how few people actually chose to take a train
>> instead of some form of private transport.
>> So nice try at Labor bashing but it is still a grand-FAIL!
>> As per usual.
>>
> EVERY election Labor drag out VFT and rail connections then never ever
> even look at this when or if they come into power.
>
The issue of Very Fast Train hot air balloons is a typical Australian
problem. There have been countless studies done on this, both public and
private initiated ones yet nothing ever happened. In most cases you get
rusted on on-road private transport advocates (mainly from the political
right) who immediately break out in crocodile tears on this subject
saying that our only feasible solution to public transport are more
highways (if possible, of course, operated exclusively by private
enterprises - mostly in the form of to the average punter hardly
affordable toll-roads). On tops the aviation industry also tries it best
to see that no fast train will ever run offering a viable alternative on
those highly lucrative routes like Sydney to Melbourne. In end effect
these lobby groups have convinced politicians and the public at large
that Australia has never meant to have a proper high speed rail, not now
nor ever-ever.

It seems successive LNP governments have done even worse by exclusively
favouring road projects instead to rail, neglecting existing rail
infrastructure and even worse selling these off to private operators who
invested over time even less.
Just look at what leaders like lying rodent gnome Howard or Jeff Kennett
did to public transport during their reign. A true disaster.
And what little was actually done has never turned out to be what was
actually needed.
NSW fared no better..just look at what this present LNP mob is doing by
placing public transport into private hands and donating more and more
road infrastructure as toll roads to their big business mates.
So blaming all this solely on Labor is such a typical LNP driven stunt.
>
> All Sydney present rail upgrades are thanks to LNP

BULLSHIT solutions to con the dumbed down voters like you.
All the projects are using the worst and cheapest solution, and are
designed mostly to make more profits for private enterprises (of course
all happy donors for the Libs).
For instance converting sections of existing heavy rail infrastructure
into a third rate el-cheapo 'METRO' line boggles the sane mind.

> ... never Labor.

Labor is NOT in government

> Sydney
> to Canbera can be a hour but needs track upgrade existing train can
> easily do this

WRONG as always.
The existing line to Canberra can't be used by very fast trains of the
current stand of rail technology.
Steep grades, tight curves, multitude of level crossings and slow-speed
turnouts are all unsuitable even for current tilt train technology
designed for 200 kmh. And of course to be competing with airlines 200 kmh
is clearly not enough. So the way to go is to build a dedicated new line
which with time connects Adelaide via all major cities on the coast to
Brisbane.
And that brings us back to square one because no rightwing politician in
or out of government would ever support such a future oriented public
infrastructure project.

~~~
~~~
Busting Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> MAGA

Mental Absurdity Garbage Acceptance --- the perfect meme for you, Petz
dear!
Fully descriptive of your intentions.

> Mark Latham has ...

....been (and still is) an anger management failure basket case w/o any
real ideology or self-discipline beyond limitless narcissism and
opportunism. He is as meaningless as his pathetic tilt at becoming a
relevant far right shock jock.

> Voting Coalition, ...

....and...

> ... One Nation is like eating shit because you ...

....hate your socially responsible fellow citizens.
~~

--
Ördög - 👹️ - your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark.......
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

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Ördög, the real Devil declared

> Petz
>
>> Ördög
>>> Petz
>>>> Why did he not use a train?
>>>
>>> Show me an LNP Federal politician, any politician from the hard right
>>> who'd take the train instead of private cars with drivers, or planes
>>> or helicopters.
>>> What a nice Murdoch anti-Labor beat up!
>>> If we go down that kind of gotcha critique on politicians at least
>>> apply it even evenhandedly to all politicians.
>>>
>>>> Labor leader Anthony Albanese pledges $500m for Sydney-Newcastle fast
>>>> rail
>>>
>>> If we actually had an East-Coast very fast rail service your critique
>>> might have had a real bite. But this day an age for a distance such as
>>> Sydney to Canberra taking four and a half hours by train is a horrible
>>> joke. No wonder how few people actually chose to take a train instead
>>> of some form of private transport.
>>> So nice try at Labor bashing but it is still a grand-FAIL!
>>> As per usual.
>>>
>> EVERY election Labor drag out VFT and rail connections then never ever
>> even look at this when or if they come into power.
>>
> The issue of Very Fast Train hot air balloons is a typical Australian
> problem. There have been countless studies done on this, both public and
> private initiated ones yet nothing ever happened. In most cases you get
> rusted on on-road private transport advocates (mainly from the political
> right) who immediately break out in crocodile tears on this subject
> saying that our only feasible solution to public transport are more
> highways (if possible, of course, operated exclusively by private
> enterprises - mostly in the form of to the average punter hardly
> affordable toll-roads). On tops the aviation industry also tries it best
> to see that no fast train will ever run offering a viable alternative on
> those highly lucrative routes like Sydney to Melbourne. In end effect
> these lobby groups have convinced politicians and the public at large
> that Australia has never meant to have a proper high speed rail, not now
> nor ever-ever.
>
> It seems successive LNP governments have done even worse by exclusively
> favouring road projects instead to rail, neglecting existing rail
> infrastructure and even worse selling these off to private operators who
> invested over time even less.
> Just look at what leaders like lying rodent gnome Howard or Jeff Kennett
> did to public transport during their reign. A true disaster.
> And what little was actually done has never turned out to be what was
> actually needed.
> NSW fared no better..just look at what this present LNP mob is doing by
> placing public transport into private hands and donating more and more
> road infrastructure as toll roads to their big business mates.
> So blaming all this solely on Labor is such a typical LNP driven stunt.
>>
>> All Sydney present rail upgrades are thanks to LNP
>
> BULLSHIT solutions to con the dumbed down voters like you.
> All the projects are using the worst and cheapest solution, and are
> designed mostly to make more profits for private enterprises (of course
> all happy donors for the Libs).
> For instance converting sections of existing heavy rail infrastructure
> into a third rate el-cheapo 'METRO' line boggles the sane mind.
>
>> ... never Labor.
>
> Labor is NOT in government
>
>> Sydney to Canbera can be a hour but needs track upgrade existing train
>> can easily do this
>
> WRONG as always.
> The existing line to Canberra can't be used by very fast trains of the
> current stand of rail technology.
> Steep grades, tight curves, multitude of level crossings and slow-speed
> turnouts are all unsuitable even for current tilt train technology
> designed for 200 kmh. And of course to be competing with airlines 200
> kmh is clearly not enough. So the way to go is to build a dedicated new
> line which with time connects Adelaide via all major cities on the coast
> to Brisbane.
> And that brings us back to square one because no rightwing politician in
> or out of government would ever support such a future oriented public
> infrastructure project.
>

More on this Fast Train topic:

First the somewhat simplistic point of view:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nEaa3UI5QA&ab_channel=ABCNewsIn-depth>
*Why doesn't Australia have high speed rail? | ABC News*

And here is something more technical:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjvnpeqaj5s&ab_channel=RailwaysExplained>
The Story of (non-existent) High-Speed Rail in Australia
/Railways Explained/

--
Ördög /your scary shadow that says "Boo" in the dark/
Beware:
*Nem jó az ördögöt a falra festeni, mert megjelenek*
/English: Talk of the devil and I make sure to appear/


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