Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding plastic gears
misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller pump area under
the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in, and hadn't
been used for a week.

- Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump motor
circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06 means, maybe a
door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed

https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/

- cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.

- switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute rinse cycle.
Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the machine had
switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run of the rinse
cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.

- tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it automatically ran a
'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.

- had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30 washes no
problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.

Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding sound does
sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's very little
about this model on the internet.

In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for ideas, then
strip it down as per the link above.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 14 Sep 2023 at 17:53:05 BST, RJH wrote:

> Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding plastic gears
> misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller pump area under
> the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in, and hadn't
> been used for a week.
>
> - Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump motor
> circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06 means, maybe a
> door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed
>
> https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/
>
> - cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.
>
> - switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute rinse cycle.
> Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the machine had
> switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run of the rinse
> cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.
>
> - tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it automatically ran a
> 'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.
>
> - had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30 washes no
> problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.
>
> Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding sound does
> sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's very little
> about this model on the internet.
>
> In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for ideas, then
> strip it down as per the link above.

Update - I couldn't find any clear way to dismantle the machine and identify
the fault - which was looking like it was going to need some diagnostic
equipment to locate in any case. So I booked a Bosch repair (fixed c.£100
labour plus parts).

Turned out it was the main control unit - something (a triac he said) had
failed and was causing the pump to run at random times. £160+VAT which would
have made it a very marginal case for repair.

It was built in June 2022, so was within warranty (2 years), but that didn't
apply as I was a second owner. In the event Bosch gave me the part for
nothing, so I just had to pay the labour. The part comes with a year's
warranty, and 3 months labour free repairs.

Not sure of the moral here, happy enough on balance.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2023 at 17:53:05 BST, RJH wrote:
>
>> Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding plastic gears
>> misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller pump area under
>> the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in, and hadn't
>> been used for a week.
>>
>> - Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump motor
>> circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06 means, maybe a
>> door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed
>>
>> https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/
>>
>> - cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.
>>
>> - switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute rinse cycle.
>> Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the machine had
>> switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run of the rinse
>> cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.
>>
>> - tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it automatically ran a
>> 'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.
>>
>> - had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30 washes no
>> problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.
>>
>> Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding sound does
>> sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's very little
>> about this model on the internet.
>>
>> In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for ideas, then
>> strip it down as per the link above.
>
> Update - I couldn't find any clear way to dismantle the machine and identify
> the fault - which was looking like it was going to need some diagnostic
> equipment to locate in any case. So I booked a Bosch repair (fixed c.£100
> labour plus parts).
>
> Turned out it was the main control unit - something (a triac he said) had
> failed and was causing the pump to run at random times. £160+VAT which would
> have made it a very marginal case for repair.
>
> It was built in June 2022, so was within warranty (2 years), but that didn't
> apply as I was a second owner. In the event Bosch gave me the part for
> nothing, so I just had to pay the labour. The part comes with a year's
> warranty, and 3 months labour free repairs.
>
> Not sure of the moral here, happy enough on balance.
>

Glad you’re sorted but it doesn’t bode well for the future. Good luck!

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On 25 Sep 2023 at 09:43:45 BST, Tim+ wrote:

> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 14 Sep 2023 at 17:53:05 BST, RJH wrote:
>>
>>> Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding plastic gears
>>> misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller pump area under
>>> the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in, and hadn't
>>> been used for a week.
>>>
>>> - Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump motor
>>> circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06 means, maybe a
>>> door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed
>>>
>>> https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/
>>>
>>> - cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.
>>>
>>> - switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute rinse cycle.
>>> Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the machine had
>>> switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run of the rinse
>>> cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.
>>>
>>> - tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it automatically ran a
>>> 'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.
>>>
>>> - had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30 washes no
>>> problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding sound does
>>> sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's very little
>>> about this model on the internet.
>>>
>>> In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for ideas, then
>>> strip it down as per the link above.
>>
>> Update - I couldn't find any clear way to dismantle the machine and identify
>> the fault - which was looking like it was going to need some diagnostic
>> equipment to locate in any case. So I booked a Bosch repair (fixed c.£100
>> labour plus parts).
>>
>> Turned out it was the main control unit - something (a triac he said) had
>> failed and was causing the pump to run at random times. £160+VAT which would
>> have made it a very marginal case for repair.
>>
>> It was built in June 2022, so was within warranty (2 years), but that didn't
>> apply as I was a second owner. In the event Bosch gave me the part for
>> nothing, so I just had to pay the labour. The part comes with a year's
>> warranty, and 3 months labour free repairs.
>>
>> Not sure of the moral here, happy enough on balance.
>>
>
> Glad you’re sorted but it doesn’t bode well for the future. Good luck!
>
> Tim

Quite - I did ask him about the cause of the failure, but pretty much act of
god it seems. He showed me the board and nothing obvious. Fingers crossed for
the future :-)

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 25/09/2023 10:34, RJH wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2023 at 09:43:45 BST, Tim+ wrote:
>
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> On 14 Sep 2023 at 17:53:05 BST, RJH wrote:
>>>
>>>> Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding plastic gears
>>>> misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller pump area under
>>>> the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in, and hadn't
>>>> been used for a week.
>>>>
>>>> - Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump motor
>>>> circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06 means, maybe a
>>>> door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed
>>>>
>>>> https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/
>>>>
>>>> - cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.
>>>>
>>>> - switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute rinse cycle.
>>>> Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the machine had
>>>> switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run of the rinse
>>>> cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.
>>>>
>>>> - tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it automatically ran a
>>>> 'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.
>>>>
>>>> - had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30 washes no
>>>> problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding sound does
>>>> sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's very little
>>>> about this model on the internet.
>>>>
>>>> In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for ideas, then
>>>> strip it down as per the link above.
>>>
>>> Update - I couldn't find any clear way to dismantle the machine and identify
>>> the fault - which was looking like it was going to need some diagnostic
>>> equipment to locate in any case. So I booked a Bosch repair (fixed c.£100
>>> labour plus parts).
>>>
>>> Turned out it was the main control unit - something (a triac he said) had
>>> failed and was causing the pump to run at random times. £160+VAT which would
>>> have made it a very marginal case for repair.
>>>
>>> It was built in June 2022, so was within warranty (2 years), but that didn't
>>> apply as I was a second owner. In the event Bosch gave me the part for
>>> nothing, so I just had to pay the labour. The part comes with a year's
>>> warranty, and 3 months labour free repairs.
>>>
>>> Not sure of the moral here, happy enough on balance.
>>>
>>
>> Glad you’re sorted but it doesn’t bode well for the future. Good luck!
>>
>> Tim
>
> Quite - I did ask him about the cause of the failure, but pretty much act of
> god it seems. He showed me the board and nothing obvious. Fingers crossed for
> the future :-)

Failures in general, pretty much folow the bathtub curve. Highest
failure rates are early on due to faulty components, bad soldering,
assembly problems, etc. and towards end of life, as everything ages and
stresses.

It may well be that you have been one of those suffering an unlucky
early failure, but that doesn't mean that the replacement part or the
rest of the machine is more likely to suffer another failure.

On 26/09/2023 17:40, SteveW wrote:
> On 25/09/2023 10:34, RJH wrote:
>> On 25 Sep 2023 at 09:43:45 BST, Tim+ wrote:
>>
>>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> On 14 Sep 2023 at 17:53:05 BST, RJH wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding
>>>>> plastic gears
>>>>> misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller pump
>>>>> area under
>>>>> the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in,
>>>>> and hadn't
>>>>> been used for a week.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump
>>>>> motor
>>>>> circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06
>>>>> means, maybe a
>>>>> door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed
>>>>>
>>>>> https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/
>>>>>
>>>>> - cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.
>>>>>
>>>>> - switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute
>>>>> rinse cycle.
>>>>> Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the
>>>>> machine had
>>>>> switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run of
>>>>> the rinse
>>>>> cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.
>>>>>
>>>>> - tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it
>>>>> automatically ran a
>>>>> 'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.
>>>>>
>>>>> - had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30 washes no
>>>>> problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding
>>>>> sound does
>>>>> sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's
>>>>> very little
>>>>> about this model on the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for
>>>>> ideas, then
>>>>> strip it down as per the link above.
>>>>
>>>> Update - I couldn't find any clear way to dismantle the machine and
>>>> identify
>>>> the fault - which was looking like it was going to need some diagnostic
>>>> equipment to locate in any case. So I booked a Bosch repair (fixed
>>>> c.£100
>>>> labour plus parts).
>>>>
>>>> Turned out it was the main control unit - something (a triac he
>>>> said) had
>>>> failed and was causing the pump to run at random times. £160+VAT
>>>> which would
>>>> have made it a very marginal case for repair.
>>>>
>>>> It was built in June 2022, so was within warranty (2 years), but
>>>> that didn't
>>>> apply as I was a second owner. In the event Bosch gave me the part for
>>>> nothing, so I just had to pay the labour. The part comes with a year's
>>>> warranty, and 3 months labour free repairs.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure of the moral here, happy enough on balance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Glad you’re sorted but it doesn’t bode well for the future.  Good luck!
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>> Quite - I did ask him about the cause of the failure, but pretty much
>> act of
>> god it seems. He showed me the board and nothing obvious. Fingers
>> crossed for
>> the future :-)
>
> Failures in general, pretty much folow the bathtub curve. Highest
> failure rates are early on due to faulty components, bad soldering,
> assembly problems, etc. and towards end of life, as everything ages and
> stresses.
>
> It may well be that you have been one of those suffering an unlucky
> early failure, but that doesn't mean that the replacement part or the
> rest of the machine is more likely to suffer another failure.
>
Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something decent
--
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

- Bertrand Russell

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:44:18 PM UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 26/09/2023 17:40, SteveW wrote:
> > On 25/09/2023 10:34, RJH wrote:
> >> On 25 Sep 2023 at 09:43:45 BST, Tim+ wrote:
> >>
> >>> RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 14 Sep 2023 at 17:53:05 BST, RJH wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding
> >>>>> plastic gears
> >>>>> misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller pump
> >>>>> area under
> >>>>> the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in,
> >>>>> and hadn't
> >>>>> been used for a week.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump
> >>>>> motor
> >>>>> circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06
> >>>>> means, maybe a
> >>>>> door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute
> >>>>> rinse cycle.
> >>>>> Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the
> >>>>> machine had
> >>>>> switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run of
> >>>>> the rinse
> >>>>> cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it
> >>>>> automatically ran a
> >>>>> 'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30 washes no
> >>>>> problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding
> >>>>> sound does
> >>>>> sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's
> >>>>> very little
> >>>>> about this model on the internet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for
> >>>>> ideas, then
> >>>>> strip it down as per the link above.
> >>>>
> >>>> Update - I couldn't find any clear way to dismantle the machine and
> >>>> identify
> >>>> the fault - which was looking like it was going to need some diagnostic
> >>>> equipment to locate in any case. So I booked a Bosch repair (fixed
> >>>> c.£100
> >>>> labour plus parts).
> >>>>
> >>>> Turned out it was the main control unit - something (a triac he
> >>>> said) had
> >>>> failed and was causing the pump to run at random times. £160+VAT
> >>>> which would
> >>>> have made it a very marginal case for repair.
> >>>>
> >>>> It was built in June 2022, so was within warranty (2 years), but
> >>>> that didn't
> >>>> apply as I was a second owner. In the event Bosch gave me the part for
> >>>> nothing, so I just had to pay the labour. The part comes with a year's
> >>>> warranty, and 3 months labour free repairs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not sure of the moral here, happy enough on balance.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Glad you’re sorted but it doesn’t bode well for the future. Good luck!
> >>>
> >>> Tim
> >>
> >> Quite - I did ask him about the cause of the failure, but pretty much
> >> act of
> >> god it seems. He showed me the board and nothing obvious. Fingers
> >> crossed for
> >> the future :-)
> >
> > Failures in general, pretty much folow the bathtub curve. Highest
> > failure rates are early on due to faulty components, bad soldering,
> > assembly problems, etc. and towards end of life, as everything ages and
> > stresses.
> >
> > It may well be that you have been one of those suffering an unlucky
> > early failure, but that doesn't mean that the replacement part or the
> > rest of the machine is more likely to suffer another failure.
> >
> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something decent
> --
> “The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
> the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
>
> - Bertrand Russell
I had a Hotpoint washing machine. The control board failled three times. First time at 3 months, second below a year, third at 6 years.
First two and labour were free, the third board was £20 from ebay and I fixed it. Blown Mosfet on the last one.

On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something decent

Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
week and there's been no problem of any sort.

--

Jeff

Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something decent
>
> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
> week and there's been no problem of any sort.
>

But…. 4 years old is nothing like old for a washing machine. Once a week
use isn’t heavy use isn’t heavy use either.

I don’t think we’ve ever had less than 10 years out of a washing machine
with daily use.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On 27/09/2023 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
>> decent
>
> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
> week and there's been no problem of any sort.
>

A dishwasher is used *every day* so in wear terms if that was a
dishwasher it would be *28 years old*.

--
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and
higher education positively fortifies it."

- Stephen Vizinczey

On 27 Sep 2023 at 10:44:40 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 27/09/2023 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
>>> decent
>>
>> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
>> week and there's been no problem of any sort.
>>
>
> A dishwasher is used *every day*

Eh? Twice a week here usually.
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 26/09/2023 17:40, SteveW wrote:
>> On 25/09/2023 10:34, RJH wrote:
>>> On 25 Sep 2023 at 09:43:45 BST, Tim+ wrote:
>>>
>>>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 14 Sep 2023 at 17:53:05 BST, RJH wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Woke up this morning to the sound of the dishwasher - a grinding
>>>>>> plastic gears
>>>>>> misaligned sort of sound, quite loud, coming from the impeller
>>>>>> pump area under
>>>>>> the lower wash arm. The dishwasher wasn't on but was plugged in,
>>>>>> and hadn't
>>>>>> been used for a week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Error code E01 06 on the display. E01 is 'probably' a 'heat pump
>>>>>> motor
>>>>>> circuit fault at the main control board'. Not sure what the 06
>>>>>> means, maybe a
>>>>>> door sensor fault. This site suggest a sensor has failed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://howtofixit.net/bosch-dishwasher-error-codes-and-what-they-are-means/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - cleaned around the pump, no debris, spins freely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - switched it off for 10 minutes, then back on, ran a 15 minute
>>>>>> rinse cycle.
>>>>>> Grinding noise then came back about 10 minutes later, after the
>>>>>> machine had
>>>>>> switched itself off. No error showing this time, but another run
>>>>>> of the rinse
>>>>>> cycle stopped mid-way with the grinding and E01 06 error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - tried the software reset, and probably by coincidence it
>>>>>> automatically ran a
>>>>>> 'critical software update' earlier today. Problem still there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - had it about 3 months, bought used from ebay, run maybe 30
>>>>>> washes no
>>>>>> problem. It's a Serie 4 SMS4HCI40G/24.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?! The fact it's switching on randomly with this grinding
>>>>>> sound does
>>>>>> sound ominously like control board and not a sensor, but there's
>>>>>> very little
>>>>>> about this model on the internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the absence of anything specific I'll try phoning Bosch for
>>>>>> ideas, then
>>>>>> strip it down as per the link above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Update - I couldn't find any clear way to dismantle the machine and
>>>>> identify
>>>>> the fault - which was looking like it was going to need some
>>>>> diagnostic
>>>>> equipment to locate in any case. So I booked a Bosch repair (fixed
>>>>> c.£100
>>>>> labour plus parts).
>>>>>
>>>>> Turned out it was the main control unit - something (a triac he
>>>>> said) had
>>>>> failed and was causing the pump to run at random times. £160+VAT
>>>>> which would
>>>>> have made it a very marginal case for repair.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was built in June 2022, so was within warranty (2 years), but
>>>>> that didn't
>>>>> apply as I was a second owner. In the event Bosch gave me the part for
>>>>> nothing, so I just had to pay the labour. The part comes with a year's
>>>>> warranty, and 3 months labour free repairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure of the moral here, happy enough on balance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glad you’re sorted but it doesn’t bode well for the future.  Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Quite - I did ask him about the cause of the failure, but pretty much
>>> act of
>>> god it seems. He showed me the board and nothing obvious. Fingers
>>> crossed for
>>> the future :-)
>>
>> Failures in general, pretty much folow the bathtub curve. Highest
>> failure rates are early on due to faulty components, bad soldering,
>> assembly problems, etc. and towards end of life, as everything ages
>> and stresses.
>>
>> It may well be that you have been one of those suffering an unlucky
>> early failure, but that doesn't mean that the replacement part or the
>> rest of the machine is more likely to suffer another failure.
>>
> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
> decent

My experience of Bosch is pretty good. When did you last buy Bosch?

What do you recommend?

On 27/09/2023 12:58, Fredxx wrote:
> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
>> decent
>
> My experience of Bosch is pretty good. When did you last buy Bosch?
>
5 years ago. It was broke they charged me £200 to fix it and it broke again
I bought a Miele dishwasher instead

That is still going

> What do you recommend?
>

--
"An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out
only in others...”

Tom Wolfe

On 27/09/2023 11:33, RJH wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2023 at 10:44:40 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 27/09/2023 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
>>>> decent
>>>
>>> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
>>> week and there's been no problem of any sort.
>>>
>>
>> A dishwasher is used *every day*
>
> Eh? Twice a week here usually.
Blimey. Do you eat off the floor the rest of the time?
What's the point of a dishwasher you do NOT use daily?

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:49:03 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:

> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
>> decent
>
> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
> week and there's been no problem of any sort.

Ours is about 10 years old. Used 4-5 times a week.

I have only replaced the detergent flap.

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On 27 Sep 2023 at 13:51:29 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 27/09/2023 11:33, RJH wrote:
>> On 27 Sep 2023 at 10:44:40 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/09/2023 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
>>>>> decent
>>>>
>>>> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
>>>> week and there's been no problem of any sort.
>>>>
>>>
>>> A dishwasher is used *every day*
>>
>> Eh? Twice a week here usually.
> Blimey. Do you eat off the floor the rest of the time?

Well, there's only me most of the time and it's an 8 place capacity, so it
sort of works out fine.

> What's the point of a dishwasher you do NOT use daily?

I like it in large part because it just clear's the day's cups and plates.
Marvellous things.

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In article <uf18gh$334ij$4@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 27/09/2023 11:33, RJH wrote:
> > On 27 Sep 2023 at 10:44:40 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> >
> >> On 27/09/2023 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
> >>> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy
> >>>> something decent
> >>>
> >>> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least
> >>> once a week and there's been no problem of any sort.
> >>>
> >>
> >> A dishwasher is used *every day*
> >
> > Eh? Twice a week here usually.
> Blimey. Do you eat off the floor the rest of the time? What's the point
> of a dishwasher you do NOT use daily?

it depends on how much useable crockery you have.

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On 27/09/2023 14:56, RJH wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2023 at 13:51:29 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 27/09/2023 11:33, RJH wrote:
>>> On 27 Sep 2023 at 10:44:40 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/09/2023 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>>> On 26/09/2023 18:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Its a Bosch. It will fail every 18 months. chuck it and buy something
>>>>>> decent
>>>>>
>>>>> Our Bosch washing machine is 4 years old. It's been used at least once a
>>>>> week and there's been no problem of any sort.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A dishwasher is used *every day*
>>>
>>> Eh? Twice a week here usually.
>> Blimey. Do you eat off the floor the rest of the time?
>
> Well, there's only me most of the time and it's an 8 place capacity, so it
> sort of works out fine.
>
>> What's the point of a dishwasher you do NOT use daily?
>
> I like it in large part because it just clear's the day's cups and plates.
> Marvellous things.
>
Its juts me as well but I seem to accumulate a washers worth of cooking
stuff, mugs, plates, knives and forks every day.

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