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+* Re: Sycamore Gap tree... Glue?The Natural Philosopher
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 by: Ħ - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 07:22 UTC

Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.

Could that work?

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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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Subject: Re: Sycamore Gap tree... Glue?
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 08:27 UTC

On 30/09/2023 08:22, Ħ wrote:
>
> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>
> Could that work?
Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds

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rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
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 by: Chris Hogg - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:02 UTC

On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>
>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>
>> Could that work?
>Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds

I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.

The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.

That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.

I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.

--
Chris

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 by: Chris Hogg - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:07 UTC

On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:22:41 +0200, ? <noone@null.nul> wrote:

>
>Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>
>Could that work?

Nah! Try duct tape.

--
Chris

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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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Subject: Re: Sycamore Gap tree... Glue?
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:38 UTC

On 30/09/2023 10:02, Chris Hogg wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>
>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>
>>> Could that work?
>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>
> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>
> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>
> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>
> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>
Sheer hatred of the species.

Sheer hatred is very popular these days especially with the woke snowflakes.
--
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain

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From: tricky.d...@sky.com (Tricky Dicky)
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 by: Tricky Dicky - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:17 UTC

Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>
>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>
>>> Could that work?
>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>
> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>
> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>
> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>
> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>

They are also dreadful for parking under as they constantly shed a sticky
sap which is a PITA to remove.

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 by: Tim Streater - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 11:09 UTC

On 30 Sep 2023 at 11:17:15 BST, "Tricky Dicky" <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:

> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>
>>>> Could that work?
>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>>
>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
>> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>
>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
>> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
>> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>
>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
>> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>
>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>
> They are also dreadful for parking under as they constantly shed a sticky
> sap which is a PITA to remove.

That's no excuse for the Horrible Walker of Hadrian's Wall. Not much traffic
there and no shops, far as I coudl tell.

--
Tim

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 by: Max Demian - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 12:59 UTC

On 30/09/2023 08:22, Ħ wrote:
>
> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>
> Could that work?

Something I didn't know existed doesn't exist any more.

--
Max Demian

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 by: N_Cook - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 14:35 UTC

On 30/09/2023 08:22, Ħ wrote:
>
> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>
> Could that work?

Just as we were getting used to teens with knives, the new normal will
be; the scourge of teens with chainsaws.

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 by: Salud - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 14:47 UTC

On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:02:31 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>
>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>
>>> Could that work?
>>Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>>But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>
> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate, it's
> surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>
> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and it
> would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual impact
> of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>
> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve to
> keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>
> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.

I read that he's some sort of right wing anti environmentalist nutjob.

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On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:35:47 UTC+1, N_Cook wrote:
> On 30/09/2023 08:22, Ħ wrote:
> >
> > Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
> >
> > Could that work?
> Just as we were getting used to teens with knives, the new normal will
> be; the scourge of teens with chainsaws.
>
> --
> Global sea level rise to 2100 from curve-fitted existing altimetry data
> <http://diverse.4mg.com/slr.htm>
Is it only teens? Was the massacre in Texas carried out by a teen?

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 by: Andy Bennett - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:16 UTC

On 30/09/2023 08:22, Ħ wrote:
>
> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>
> Could that work?

Computer says no (ChatGPT)

Moi:- can a sawn down tree be grafted together again?

ChatGPT
It is not possible to graft together two pieces of a sawn-down tree to
restore it to its original state. Grafting is a horticultural technique
used to join two living plant parts, typically stems or branches, in
order to create a new plant with desirable traits. Grafting relies on
the cambium layer, a thin layer of actively dividing cells just beneath
the bark, to facilitate the fusion of the two plant parts.

When a tree is sawn down, the cambium layer is typically destroyed, and
the tree loses its ability to transport water and nutrients between the
roots and the upper part of the tree. Once this happens, it is not
possible to graft the tree back together because the essential living
tissue needed for grafting has been removed or severely damaged.

However, if you have two separate pieces of a living tree that you want
to graft together, it is possible to use grafting techniques to join
them and create a new union, assuming that the cambium layers of both
pieces are healthy and compatible. This is commonly done in horticulture
and agriculture for purposes such as propagating fruit trees or
improving the health of a damaged tree.

In summary, while you cannot graft together two pieces of a sawn-down
tree to restore it, you can use grafting techniques on living tree parts
if the necessary conditions are met.

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 by: N_Cook - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:44 UTC

On 30/09/2023 16:16, Andy Bennett wrote:
> On 30/09/2023 08:22, Ħ wrote:
>>
>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>
>> Could that work?
>
> Computer says no (ChatGPT)
>
> Moi:- can a sawn down tree be grafted together again?
>
> ChatGPT
> It is not possible to graft together two pieces of a sawn-down tree to
> restore it to its original state.

Perhaps some sort of vacuum cuff around the join, assuming an airtight
fit is possible and its possible to rejoin the parts with structural
integrity, as I suppose it gets pretty windy in that area.
Then perhaps a controlled vaccum would draw sap from the ground and
remove the air gap above the break, perhaps with some donor sap from
another tree and monitoring the bubbly noises if successful.

--
Global sea level rise to 2100 from curve-fitted existing altimetry data
<http://diverse.4mg.com/slr.htm>

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 by: Chris Hogg - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:51 UTC

On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 16:16:04 +0100, Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com>
wrote:

>On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>
>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>
>> Could that work?
>
>Computer says no (ChatGPT)
>
>Moi:- can a sawn down tree be grafted together again?
>
>ChatGPT
>It is not possible to graft together two pieces of a sawn-down tree to
>restore it to its original state. Grafting is a horticultural technique
>used to join two living plant parts, typically stems or branches, in
>order to create a new plant with desirable traits. Grafting relies on
>the cambium layer, a thin layer of actively dividing cells just beneath
>the bark, to facilitate the fusion of the two plant parts.
>
>When a tree is sawn down, the cambium layer is typically destroyed, and
>the tree loses its ability to transport water and nutrients between the
>roots and the upper part of the tree. Once this happens, it is not
>possible to graft the tree back together because the essential living
>tissue needed for grafting has been removed or severely damaged.
>
>However, if you have two separate pieces of a living tree that you want
>to graft together, it is possible to use grafting techniques to join
>them and create a new union, assuming that the cambium layers of both
>pieces are healthy and compatible. This is commonly done in horticulture
>and agriculture for purposes such as propagating fruit trees or
>improving the health of a damaged tree.
>
>In summary, while you cannot graft together two pieces of a sawn-down
>tree to restore it, you can use grafting techniques on living tree parts
>if the necessary conditions are met.

I suppose if they'd been quick enough, a skilled plantsman could have
taken small pieces from the tree canopy even though it was sawn down,
e.g. twigs trimmed appropriately, and grafted them into the stump, as
per the diagram below.
https://content.ces.ncsu.edu/media/images/ag396-3.gif
Probably too late now.

--
Chris

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 by: Tim+ - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 16:17 UTC

Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>
>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>
>>> Could that work?
>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>
> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>
> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>
> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>
> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>

Probably a disgruntled tenant farmer on National Trust land. Probably being
evicted so took his revenge with a chainsaw.

If he wasn’t being evicted before, he will be now!

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

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 by: charles - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 16:45 UTC

In article
<428084022.717783335.217609.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>, Tim+
<tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> > <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
> >>>
> >>> Could that work?
> >> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well.. But I hate sycamore.
> >> Bloody weeds
> >
> > I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
> > Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
> > it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
> >
> > The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
> > pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
> > it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
> > impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
> >
> > That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
> > there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
> > sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
> > to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
> >
> > I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
> >

> Probably a disgruntled tenant farmer on National Trust land. Probably
> being evicted so took his revenge with a chainsaw.

> If he wasn‘t being evicted before, he will be now!

Probably upset by people trampling over his crops and leaving gates open to
take 'selfies' by the tree.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té²
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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 by: Tim+ - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 16:50 UTC

charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <428084022.717783335.217609.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>, Tim+
> <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could that work?
>>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well.. But I hate sycamore.
>>>> Bloody weeds
>>>
>>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
>>> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>>
>>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
>>> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
>>> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>>
>>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
>>> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>>
>>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>>>
>
>> Probably a disgruntled tenant farmer on National Trust land. Probably
>> being evicted so took his revenge with a chainsaw.
>
>> If he wasn‘t being evicted before, he will be now!
>
> Probably upset by people trampling over his crops and leaving gates open to
> take 'selfies' by the tree.
>

I doubt it’s arable land. All sheep up there! It’s got to have been more
than an annoyance with trippers though as cutting down a protected tree in
a national park (or at least National Trust land) will have him out on his
ear (and possible imprisoned).

Tim

--
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 by: Colin Bignell - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 17:18 UTC

On 30/09/2023 16:44, N_Cook wrote:
> On 30/09/2023 16:16, Andy Bennett wrote:
>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, Ħ wrote:
>>>
>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>
>>> Could that work?
>>
>> Computer says no (ChatGPT)
>>
>> Moi:- can a sawn down tree be grafted together again?
>>
>> ChatGPT
>> It is not possible to graft together two pieces of a sawn-down tree to
>> restore it to its original state.
>
> Perhaps some sort of vacuum cuff around the join, assuming an airtight
> fit is possible and its possible to rejoin the parts with structural
> integrity, as I suppose it gets pretty windy in that area.
> Then perhaps a controlled vaccum would draw sap from the ground and
> remove the air gap above the break, perhaps with some donor sap from
> another tree and monitoring the bubbly noises if successful.
>

A life size hologram of the tree might be easier.

--
Colin Bignell

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 17:20 UTC

On 30/09/2023 15:47, Salud wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:02:31 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>
>>>> Could that work?
>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>>
>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate, it's
>> surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>
>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and it
>> would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual impact
>> of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>
>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve to
>> keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>
>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>
> I read that he's some sort of right wing anti environmentalist nutjob.
As opposed to a left wing anti-environemntalist nut job?
--
For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the
very definition of slavery.

Jonathan Swift

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 by: Andrew - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:01 UTC

On 30/09/2023 17:45, charles wrote:
> In article
> <428084022.717783335.217609.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>, Tim+
> <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could that work?
>>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well.. But I hate sycamore.
>>>> Bloody weeds
>>>
>>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
>>> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>>
>>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
>>> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
>>> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>>
>>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
>>> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>>
>>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>>>
>
>> Probably a disgruntled tenant farmer on National Trust land. Probably
>> being evicted so took his revenge with a chainsaw.
>
>> If he wasn‘t being evicted before, he will be now!
>
> Probably upset by people trampling over his crops and leaving gates open to
> take 'selfies' by the tree.
>

Its Hadrians wall. It must be a footpath or even a bridlepath.

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 by: Chris Hogg - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 20:26 UTC

On Sat, 30 Sep 23 16:45:03 UTC, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
wrote:

>In article
><428084022.717783335.217609.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>, Tim+
><tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>> > <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could that work?
>> >> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well.. But I hate sycamore.
>> >> Bloody weeds
>> >
>> > I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>> > Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
>> > it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>> >
>> > The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>> > pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
>> > it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
>> > impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>> >
>> > That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>> > there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>> > sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
>> > to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>> >
>> > I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>> >
>
>> Probably a disgruntled tenant farmer on National Trust land. Probably
>> being evicted so took his revenge with a chainsaw.
>
>> If he wasn‘t being evicted before, he will be now!
>
>Probably upset by people trampling over his crops and leaving gates open to
>take 'selfies' by the tree.

Well, he's probably got far more visitors now that he had before!

--
Chris

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 by: Bob Henson - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 07:45 UTC

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 30/09/2023 15:47, Salud wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:02:31 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could that work?
>>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>>>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>>>
>>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate, it's
>>> surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>>
>>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and it
>>> would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual impact
>>> of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>>
>>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve to
>>> keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>>
>>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>>
>> I read that he's some sort of right wing anti environmentalist nutjob.
> As opposed to a left wing anti-environemntalist nut job?

Surely there aren't any? All the environmentalist are left wing per se,
despite their fascist tendencies.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

I'm retired. I was tired yesterday, and I'm tired again today.

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 by: Salud - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 07:45 UTC

On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:20:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 30/09/2023 15:47, Salud wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:02:31 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could that work?
>>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>>>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>>>
>>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
>>> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>>
>>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
>>> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
>>> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>>
>>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
>>> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>>
>>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>>
>> I read that he's some sort of right wing anti environmentalist nutjob.
> As opposed to a left wing anti-environemntalist nut job?

It seems to have been a farmer and an ex-lumberjack with a grudge against
the National Trust. Like I said, some sort of right wing anti
environmentalist nutjob.

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 by: Tim+ - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 08:03 UTC

Salud <news@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:20:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 30/09/2023 15:47, Salud wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:02:31 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could that work?
>>>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>>>>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>>>>
>>>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>>>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate,
>>>> it's surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>>>
>>>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>>>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and
>>>> it would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual
>>>> impact of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>>>
>>>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>>>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>>>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve
>>>> to keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>>>
>>> I read that he's some sort of right wing anti environmentalist nutjob.
>> As opposed to a left wing anti-environemntalist nut job?
>
> It seems to have been a farmer and an ex-lumberjack with a grudge against
> the National Trust. Like I said, some sort of right wing anti
> environmentalist nutjob.
>

Seems he had a grudge against the Jesuits who owned his farm. Unclear
whether the Jesuits also owned the land where the Sycamore Gap is. Odd
target if they don’t. Wouldn’t really give him a motive for cutting that
tree.

Tim

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Re: Sycamore Gap tree... Glue?

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Subject: Re: Sycamore Gap tree... Glue?
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 10:47:16 +0100
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 09:47 UTC

On 01/10/2023 08:45, Bob Henson wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 30/09/2023 15:47, Salud wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:02:31 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:27:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/09/2023 08:22, ? wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously. Get a crane, get some glue, stick it back on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could that work?
>>>>> Sort of grafting? It might, it might well..
>>>>> But I hate sycamore. Bloody weeds
>>>>
>>>> I've seen them described as 'tree weeds'! Bearing in mind that in
>>>> Autumn, sycamores shed seeds like confetti which readily germinate, it's
>>>> surprising that there aren't a lot more of them all around.
>>>>
>>>> The 'experts' say the stump might send up several shoots, much as in
>>>> pollarding, but the tree that resulted would never look the same, and it
>>>> would take centuries to get anywhere near the same size or visual impact
>>>> of the original, which was apparently 300 years old.
>>>>
>>>> That gap must be a very exposed site and the wind must roar through
>>>> there on stormy days, but I see someone has already planted another
>>>> sycamore nearby, about 2 metres tall and protected with a tree-sleeve to
>>>> keep rabbits and deer from nibbling it.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what drove the misguided tree-feller to fell it.
>>>
>>> I read that he's some sort of right wing anti environmentalist nutjob.
>> As opposed to a left wing anti-environemntalist nut job?
>
> Surely there aren't any? All the environmentalist are left wing per se,
> despite their fascist tendencies.
>
WEll if you look at what windmills BEVS, solar panels etc actually do to
the environment, its clear that their advocates along with the climate
change alarmists don't give a fuck about the environment.

Environmentalist is only a virtue signalling label.

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