Petz

> Ördög

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*Town Taken Over by Two Rich Guys - Economic Update with Richard Wolff*
/Democracy At Work/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXNB5dDsaQ&ab_channel=DemocracyAtWork>

"Prof Wolff describes the scheme that many rich people are using to
control politics by using one example in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

"The two richest guys in Kalamazoo avoid paying their taxes, turn around,
use the money they didn't pay in taxes to give it to a corporation they
own and operate, which can then dole out the money in whatever way they
think is appropriate for the future of that town. You know, we have a name
for this in American history. It's called the company town, but this time
it's just whoever the richest folks are in town." - Richard Wolff"
~~~

Here is the perfect grift in all accounts.
Yes, some people are just made themselves more equal than the rest of us,
they are born to rule forever and ever and ever ... screw the average
punter little working class people, the disposable scumbags they all are.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> Prof Wolf

> is useless

So that is your only counter argument...attack the person not what his
argument is?
Most likely because you have basically NO real counterarguments to put!
As per usual!
I'll bet he does not have to call a dirty park bench like your
Shitboxville one as residence! 😝️

> and unemployable

Bullshit. He is an Ivy league academic who have tought at top
Universities in USA.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_D._Wolff>

He still teaches although he is semi retired, he also publishes books and
gives public lectures.

Try harder Petz dear, specially because you are the one who is totally
useless and obviously unemployable (given your advanced dementia and
alcohol abuse).

BTW you have completely neglected to deal with my own input in the OP.
Yep, you really have nothing to say...but say you do that all the time.

~~~
~~~
Busting Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord.

oh, you mean your non-existent, invisible sky fairy???

> Eighteen eighty three Karl Marx made his most important contribution to
mankind..

Nope.
Wrong date.

"In late February 1848, the Manifesto was anonymously published by the
Workers' Educational Association (Kommunistischer Arbeiterbildungsverein)
at Bishopsgate in the City of London. Written in German, the 23-page
pamphlet was titled Manifest der kommunistischen Partei and had a dark-
green cover. It was reprinted three times and serialised in the Deutsche
Londoner Zeitung, a newspaper for German émigrés. On 4 March, one day
after the serialisation in the Zeitung began, Marx was expelled by
Belgian police. Two weeks later, around 20 March, a thousand copies of
the Manifesto reached Paris, and from there to Germany in early April. In
April–May the text was corrected for printing and punctuation mistakes;
Marx and Engels would use this 30-page version as the basis for future
editions of the Manifesto."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto>

Of course the Manifesto is just a tiny except of Marx's equally important
econopolitical analytical works on capitalism stretching over decades.

> He died
Yes, people tend to die, it's kind of an unavoidable fact of life.
However great people leave behind their legacy works which keep on
surviving depending on the values they represent for society.

What will be your legacy Petz dear? Alt-right hate and paranoia?
Discarded empty goon bags?

> Ördög do the planet a favor and join him!

After you, Petz dear!
I told you many times, I love you precisely just as much as you love me!

> The problem with socialism is that you
> eventually run out of other people's money

Typical hard-right lie-bertarian propaganda slogan.
No one is spending "other people's money", so I can only conclude the
person saying this doesn't understand socialism. "Means of production,
distribution, and exchange" is the key phrase here. That doesn't mean
everyone's wealth is redistributed, Robin Hood style - it means that the
factories and corporations that provide goods and services to society are
publicly owned and regulated. This isn't too dissimilar from a public
stock exchange.
So I suppose if one's understanding of socialism is to spend other
people's money, then I suppose they're just doing it wrong.

> There is no difference between communism and socialism, ...

Shows how little you know about economics, politics and political
ideologies. So what the fuck are you actually doing in a political
newsgroup?

> ... except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
> communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote.
>

Properly educated people know that communism (the ideology, and not its
USSR implementation) propose a stateless, money less and classless
society. So w/o a slaver there can be no enslavement.

Anyhow, Petz as usual regurgitates a totally uninformed far-right
B U L L S H I T mantra!
To a rational person I'd try to explain why what you posted was utter
rubbish, but in your case what'd be the point wasting my time and energy.

OK, OK, for sane readers (only) I still provide a couple of links:

<https://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism>

<https://byjus.com/free-ias-prep/difference-between-communism-capitalism-
and-socialism/>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyl2DeKT-Vs>

>
> It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
>

More B U L L S H I T accusations of the alt-right kind!

However what certain is:
The society you actually idolise and so badly wish for Petz dear is a
dystopian fascist theocratic nightmare, which offers nobody beyond a tiny
minority at the top of the food-chain any freedom, personal integrity,
hope and happiness.

< https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/
The_Handmaid%E2%80%99s_Tale_%E2%80%93_Der_Report_der_Magd>
~~

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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Ördög, the real Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote

> So what made your parents flee the Hungarian communist paradise you
> claim it was

Their criminal activity and the fact that they were about to be caught and
jailed.

> to my Christian run capitalist one bringing you with them.

Its about as far from Hungary as they could go without
actually ending up in Antarctica which is a bit cold.

Petz

> Ördög

/Snipped content all nicely restored/
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv *Town Taken Over by Two
Rich Guys - Economic Update with Richard Wolff* /Democracy At Work/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXNB5dDsaQ&ab_channel=DemocracyAtWork>

"Prof Wolff describes the scheme that many rich people are using to
control politics by using one example in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

"The two richest guys in Kalamazoo avoid paying their taxes, turn around,
use the money they didn't pay in taxes to give it to a corporation they
own and operate, which can then dole out the money in whatever way they
think is appropriate for the future of that town. You know, we have a name
for this in American history. It's called the company town, but this time
it's just whoever the richest folks are in town." - Richard Wolff"
~~~

>> Try harder Petz dear, specially because you are the one who is totally
>> useless and obviously unemployable (given your advanced dementia and
>> alcohol abuse).
>> BTW you have completely neglected to deal with my own input in the OP.
>> Yep, you really have nothing to say...but say you do that all the time.

> So ...

.....you apparently still refuse to engage with the content of my OP.
Why am NOT surprised!
You have always refused to deal with the inherent failures of extreme
plutocratic corporate capitalism.

>... what made your parents flee the Hungarian communist paradise you
> claim it was to my Christian run capitalist one bringing you with them.

I have dealt with your massive and repeated delusions on this issue ad
nauseam before. Apparently given your dementia you can recall any of it.

OK. Here is a refresher:

1 My parents never fled Hungary.
In fact in 1956 they decided to stay in the country.
Later after they divorced and over a decade later my mother has
married an Australian citizen. And that is why my mother and I left
Hungary quite legally. My father had never left the country and
passed away in 1992 in Budapest.

2 Hungary was NOT a communist country (paradise or otherwise) despite
your constant idiot alt-right deluded assertions.
In fact, the country was run by the Hungarian Socialist Workers Party
(Magyar Szocialista Munkáspárt), and was officially working towards the
establishment of "socialism" in the country (at least on paper).
Of course, given the country's occupied status after WW2 it was under
stringent USSR control in all aspects of its politics, ergo until 1956
it was virtually under total Stalinist rule.

3 I am on repeated public record in this newsgroup voicing outright
opposition against Stalinist style authoritarian personal cult regimes.
And so were my parents and grandparents too throughout their lives.

4 Australia IS NOT a Christian run wild capitalist theocracy regardless
of your fantasies about that.

So there you go Petz dear, that is my explanation which you can stuff up
your arse,.... until you forget about it again and I am forced to set my
records straight again and again.

~~~
~~~
Trashing Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease

He is still dead and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
Who cares what that megalomaniac and paranoid personal cult dictator of
the USSR declared as part of his mind numbing propaganda.

> "Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
> paradise"

That's right so far.
OZ is secular --- check
OZ is multicultural --- check

> does not have immigrant crime

That is bull. Hate to disappoint your delusions Petz dear, but!
Its worth noting that crime stats show crimes committed by immigrants are
far less that crime by true blue Australians.

Next!

> and remove anyone stating different!

Careful your bogan conspiracy kookery is showing, Petz dear!
Yea, yeah ,yea, we already heard it before...George Soros, Bill Gates,
the UN, the EU, the Secret World Government and all those shapes
shifting communist space aliens are all out to get your drunken bogan
arse ilk.
~~

--
Ördög - 👹️ - your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark.......
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

Petz

> Ördög

Your inability, Petz dear, to deal with the OP is quite evident.
You are a willing little arselicker for extreme capitalist billionaires
and their mega corporations obviously excusing their neo-feudalist/neo-
fascist nepotistic plutocracy.

>>1 My parents never fled Hungary.
>> In fact in 1956 they decided to stay in the country.
>> Later after they divorced and over a decade later my mother has
>> married an Australian citizen. And that is why my mother and I left
>> Hungary quite legally. My father had never left the country and
>> passed away in 1992 in Budapest.
>>
> So you and mother fled communist Hungary

So you are are a wantonly obnoxious idiot. What do you think married
people do? They prefer to live together, you cretin! Even if they are
Australians.
Kindly put a damper on those alt-right retard voices in your head.

>>2 Hungary was NOT a communist country (paradise or otherwise) despite
>> your constant idiot alt-right deluded assertions.
>> In fact, the country was run by the Hungarian Socialist Workers Party
>> (Magyar Szocialista Munkáspárt), and was officially working towards
>> the establishment of "socialism" in the country (at least on paper).
>> Of course, given the country's occupied status after WW2 it was under
>> stringent USSR control in all aspects of its politics, ergo until
>> 1956 it was virtually under total Stalinist rule.
>>
> Real truth.
> After the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 was suppressed by Soviet forces,
> Hungary remained a communist country.

The real truth and not that Cold War era warmed up propaganda crap you
push:

* Hungary has NOT been a communist country. Not by name and not by its
econopolitical structure.
However, Hungary was occupied by a Stalin's USSR.
After 1956 (by that time Stalin was already dead and USSR has also
implemented some changes to reverse the worst aspects of Stalin's reign
of personal cult terror) the Kádár regime has taken over from the
Stalinist Rákosi regime and has implemented a much less restrictive and
economically more flexible system of government. What that meant for the
country was a strengthening of state capitalism and the gradual uptake in
private small business activities.

> As the Soviet Union weakened at the end of the 1980s

Has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. But it is true that
the end of the 1980s is marked by the collapse of the Eastern Block in
Europe and the disintegration of the USSR.

>>
>>3 I am on repeated public record in this newsgroup voicing outright
>> opposition against Stalinist style authoritarian personal cult
>> regimes. And so were my parents and grandparents too throughout their
>> lives.
>>
> All in denial

All my previous posts to Usenet over the years indicate otherwise.
You are in position to tell me / pontificate about what is really think
of politics. I am in charge of my own mind and actions NOT you (plus your
trolling mates).
Typical alt-right/Xtian fundamentalist bad habits you display here
telling others what they think.

<https://theaimn.com/what-extremism-australia/>
>>4 Australia IS NOT a Christian run wild capitalist theocracy regardless
>> of your fantasies about that.
>>
> First line of our Christian constituition says it is!

Ad nauseam debunked B U L L S H I T !

> Australia's Constitutional Monarchy places us under God - the Christian
> God,...regurgitated Xtian fundy crap...blah...blah...blah.

<https://startsat60.com/media/opinion/is-australia-a-christian-country>

~~~
Blasting Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions

It already does....NEXT!

> the judiciary must apply the law!

Ditto!

> Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a
> Christian Commonwealth.

Bullshit! Well debunked, too! In the actual Constitution!

Fuck off Petz with your Xtian fundy Xtian Nationalist verbal vomit.
This is nothing but unXtian crap. Real Xtians say so!
<https://www.christiansagainstchristiannationalism.org/>
~~

--
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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

On 3/02/2022 9:55 am, *Ördög* wrote:
> Petz
>
>> Ördög

>>> 3 I am on repeated public record in this newsgroup voicing outright
>>> opposition against Stalinist style authoritarian personal cult
>>> regimes. And so were my parents and grandparents too throughout their
>>> lives.
>>>
>> All in denial

Wrong as usual. But you'd know that it you could read for
comprehension (which you either can't, don't or wont').
>
> All my previous posts to Usenet over the years indicate otherwise.

Yep.

> You are in position to tell me / pontificate about what is really think
> of politics. I am in charge of my own mind and actions NOT you (plus your
> trolling mates).

Yep.

It was written by Fran:

> Ördög
>> Petz
>>> Ördög
>
>>>> 3 I am on repeated public record in this newsgroup voicing outright
>>>> opposition against Stalinist style authoritarian personal cult
>>>> regimes. And so were my parents and grandparents too throughout
>>>> their lives.
>>>>
>>> All in denial
>
> Wrong as usual. But you'd know that it you could read for
> comprehension (which you either can't, don't or wont').

Petz usually practices the art of selective reading, selective
comprehension (or what counts in his defective brain as such) and
selective thinking (he is a prime practitioner of "doublethink").

>> All my previous posts to Usenet over the years indicate otherwise.
>
> Yep.
>
>> You are in no position to tell me / pontificate about what I really
>> thinks of politics.
>> I am in charge of my own mind and actions NOT you (plus
>> your trolling mates).
>
> Yep.

I hate when proselytising Xtians for instance decide to lecture atheists
insisting that these are actually closet theists....LOL.

Or when someone criticising corrupt and unashamed wealth hoarding by
already filthy rich individuals with quite rational arguments gets
labelled as pushing the politics of envy.

Or when someone explaining their position on anything gets "destroyed" by
his/her opponent's insistence that he/she actually actually stands for
something entirely different w/o any rational proof for such assertion.

The truth of what is really buried is someone's mind is only
ascertainable by that persons past and present actions.

Sadly Petz will never concede that fact.

--
Ördög - 👹️ - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

Petzl wrote on 3/2/22 8:49 am:
> On Wed, 02 Feb 2022 09:09:29 GMT, Ördög, the real Devil
> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

<Snip>

>> 4 Australia IS NOT a Christian run wild capitalist theocracy regardless
>> of your fantasies about that.

When the Australian Constitution was originally being drafted, I reckon
the Australian Population would have been a much, much, more
Church-going Christian population that it is now.

I reckon if the Australian Constitution were to be drafted *NOW* it
would end up a very different document ..... and GOD and The British
Royal Family would be gone, I believe!

> First line of our Christian constituition says it is!
> Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
> places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
> Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Petzl, do you actually notice that the first lines of our Christian
constitution *DOESN'T* actually place us "under God - the Christian God,
whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" because *THE
CHRISTIAN GOD* is a triumvirate of ....

God, the Father,
God, the Son (i.e. Jesus), and,
God, the Holy Spirit.

> Following the opening words to our Constitution,
> "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."

See!! It doesn't refer to "the Lord Jesus Christ", it refers to "The
Almighty God".

> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>
And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link, buggered
if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God, whose
compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked page, Petzl!!

You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
--
Daniel

On 3/02/2022 11:11 am, *Ördög* wrote:
> It was written by Fran:
>
>> Ördög
>>> Petz
>>>> Ördög
>>
>>>>> 3 I am on repeated public record in this newsgroup voicing outright
>>>>> opposition against Stalinist style authoritarian personal cult
>>>>> regimes. And so were my parents and grandparents too throughout
>>>>> their lives.
>>>>>
>>>> All in denial
>>
>> Wrong as usual. But you'd know that it you could read for
>> comprehension (which you either can't, don't or wont').
>
> Petz usually practices the art of selective reading, selective
> comprehension (or what counts in his defective brain as such) and
> selective thinking (he is a prime practitioner of "doublethink").
>
>>> All my previous posts to Usenet over the years indicate otherwise.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>> You are in no position to tell me / pontificate about what I really
>>> thinks of politics.
>>> I am in charge of my own mind and actions NOT you (plus
>>> your trolling mates).
>>
>> Yep.
>
> I hate when proselytising Xtians for instance decide to lecture atheists
> insisting that these are actually closet theists....LOL.

For me that sort of hectoring is confirmation that they are boofheads.

> Or when someone criticising corrupt and unashamed wealth hoarding by
> already filthy rich individuals with quite rational arguments gets
> labelled as pushing the politics of envy.

:-)) Yet further confirmation of boofheadedness.

> Or when someone explaining their position on anything gets "destroyed" by
> his/her opponent's insistence that he/she actually actually stands for
> something entirely different w/o any rational proof for such assertion.

Yep.
>
> The truth of what is really buried is someone's mind is only
> ascertainable by that persons past and present actions.
>
> Sadly Petz will never concede that fact.

And sadly the pretzel is not alone.

On 3/02/2022 8:43 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Petzl wrote on 3/2/22 8:49 am:
>> On Wed, 02 Feb 2022 09:09:29 GMT, Ördög, the real Devil
>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>> 4  Australia IS NOT a Christian run wild capitalist theocracy regardless
>>>    of your fantasies about that.
>
> When the Australian Constitution was originally being drafted, I reckon
> the Australian Population would have been a much, much, more
> Church-going Christian population that it is now.

Yep. But even way back them, there was recognition that there was
danger in linking Church with State. I suspect it might have had a lot
to do with the Catholic/Protestant divide of the time and the men wh
worked on the Constitution were smart enough to see it would be a major
issue that needed avoiding.

> I reckon if the Australian Constitution were to be drafted *NOW* it
> would end up a very different document ..... and GOD and The British
> Royal Family would be gone, I believe!

LOL. I won't give you any brownie points for coming to such a bleeding
obvious conclusion Daniel

>> First line of our Christian constituition says it is!
>> Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
>> places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
>> Name is Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Petzl, do you actually notice that the first lines of our Christian
> constitution *DOESN'T* actually place us "under God - the Christian God,
> whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" because *THE
> CHRISTIAN GOD* is a triumvirate of ....

:-)) Nah. Our resident village idiot never does notice that. He's a
bit thick that way.

> God, the Father,
> God, the Son (i.e. Jesus), and,
> God, the Holy Spirit.
>
>> Following the opening words to our Constitution,
>> "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
>> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
>
> See!! It doesn't refer to "the Lord Jesus Christ", it refers to "The
> Almighty God".
>
>> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
>> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>
> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link, buggered
> if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God, whose
> compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked page, Petzl!!
>
> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??

LOL.

Petzl wrote on 4/2/22 8:47 am:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 20:43:32 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote on 3/2/22 8:49 am:
>>> On Wed, 02 Feb 2022 09:09:29 GMT, Ördög, the real Devil
>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> 4 Australia IS NOT a Christian run wild capitalist theocracy regardless
>>>> of your fantasies about that.
>>
>> When the Australian Constitution was originally being drafted, I reckon
>> the Australian Population would have been a much, much, more
>> Church-going Christian population that it is now.
>>
>> I reckon if the Australian Constitution were to be drafted *NOW* it
>> would end up a very different document ..... and GOD and The British
>> Royal Family would be gone, I believe!
>>
> It will take a real referendum with a two third vote majority to
> change it. Malcolm Turnbull wanted to become King of Australia and
> failed.
>
>>> First line of our Christian constituition says it is!
>>> Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
>>> places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
>>> Name is Lord Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Petzl, do you actually notice that the first lines of our Christian
>> constitution *DOESN'T* actually place us "under God - the Christian God,
>> whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" because *THE
>> CHRISTIAN GOD* is a triumvirate of ....
>>
>> God, the Father,
>> God, the Son (i.e. Jesus), and,
>> God, the Holy Spirit.
>>
> The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
> the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!

>>> Following the opening words to our Constitution,
>>> "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
>>> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
>>
>> See!! It doesn't refer to "the Lord Jesus Christ", it refers to "The
>> Almighty God".
>>
> The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
> the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!

>>> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
>>> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>>
>> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link, buggered
>> if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God, whose
>> compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked page, Petzl!!
>>
>> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
>>
> Never been changed since our constitution began

Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!

Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and READ
what is there, Petzl!!

> Or you want Anthony Albanese to become king
> here's Turnbull's chair when he thought he would be made it.
> https://ibb.co/7gddT4c

--
Daniel

It was written by Daniel65:

> Petz
>> Daniel65
>>> /snip/
>>>> Ördög
>>>>> 4 Australia IS NOT a Christian run wild capitalist theocracy
>>>>> regardless of your fantasies about that.
>>>
>>> I reckon if the Australian Constitution were to be drafted *NOW* it
>>> would end up a very different document ..... and GOD and The British
>>> Royal Family would be gone, I believe!
>>>
>> Malcolm Turnbull wanted to become King of Australia and failed.
>>
BULLSHIT he did. He was and I suppose still is a Republican. In this day
and age one got to be a totally sociopathic nutjob conservative (look
into your mirror to see one) to want to be anything else.
>>>
>>> Petzl, do you actually notice that the first lines of our Christian
>>> constitution *DOESN'T* actually place us "under God - the Christian
>>> God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" because *THE
>>> God, the Father,
>>> God, the Son (i.e. Jesus), and,
>>> God, the Holy Spirit.
>
In other words the Holy Trinity! (I was raised as a Catholic before I
have learned science, philosophy and rational thinking and religion has
flown out the window).

Please don't disturb, Daniel, Petz's fanatical fundamentalist delusions
with facts from the real fundamentals of Catholic/Anglican Xtianity.
>
>>
>> The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
>> the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>
And he has been told that many times before, but he does not retain any
"disturbing" thoughts in his few remaining functional brain cells.
>>>
>>> See!! It doesn't refer to "the Lord Jesus Christ", it refers to "The
>>> Almighty God".
>>>
>> The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
>> the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>
And he has been told that many times before, but he does not retain any
"disturbing" thoughts in his few remaining functional brain cells.
>>>
>>> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link, buggered
>>> if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God,
>>> whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked
>>> page, Petzl!!
>>>
>>> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
>
Oh, that he would even if deep down even he must know this will never
work!
>
>>
>> Never been changed since our constitution began
>
> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>
And he has been told that many times before, but he does not retain any
"disturbing" thoughts in his few remaining functional brain cells.
>
> Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and READ
> what is there, Petzl!!
>
>> Or you want Anthony Albanese to become king here's Turnbull's chair
>> when he thought he would be made it.

Petz is off in fairy land again...GoonCon% !

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Petz

> Daniel65
/snip/

>>Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>>
> It most certainly does.
>
Only in your inebriated misfiring brain, Petz dear!
>
> ... and the dumb three ...
>
That Dumb3 --- crazed Aridumb Berenjerk
the self nominated Einstein version 2.0

--- Mounting Magpies Johnny (and myriads of nyms),
the LJH sock-puppeteer

--- Rod Speed

Their lackey --- Petz the designated village idiot of aus.politics

Yes, their bread and butter are constant lying!
>
> have a lot of near miss's on pedestrian crossings not know the
> difference between black and white!
>
On the contrary, all rational people (you and fundamentalist ilk
excluded) see the whole spectrum of greys from black to white, NOT just
the two extremities.
>
>> Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and READ
>> what is there, Petzl!!
>>
> Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
>
But you would have to be someone brighter than you actually are (I mean
between your sessions of endless binge drinking) to do so and make an
honest effort at comprehension.

More likely you'd do the usual Petz thing by not reading anything
"disturbing" to your Xtian fundamentalist fanatical delusions.

🤪️

~~~
~~~
Blasting Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions

It already does....NEXT!

> the judiciary must apply the law!

Ditto!

> Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a
> Christian Commonwealth.

Bullshit! Well debunked, too! In the actual Constitution!

<https://startsat60.com/media/opinion/is-australia-a-christian-country>
<https://theaimn.com/what-extremism-australia/>

Fuck off Petz with your Xtian fundy Xtian Nationalist verbal vomit.
This is nothing but unXtian crap. Real Xtians say so!
<https://www.christiansagainstchristiannationalism.org/>
~~

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supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
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Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
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- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

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Petzl wrote on 5/2/22 7:25 am:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 23:35:06 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>>>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>>>>
>>>> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link, buggered
>>>> if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God, whose
>>>> compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked page, Petzl!!
>>>>
>>>> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
>>>>
>>> Never been changed since our constitution began
>>
>> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>>
> It most certainly does.
> You and the dumb three have a lot of near miss's on pedestrian
> crossings not know the difference between black and white!
>
>> Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and READ
>> what is there, Petzl!!
>>
> Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
>
O,K., so perhaps you could point out to me (and others, maybe) where on
THAT PAGE it mentions ""the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
Name is Lord Jesus Christ"!!

http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html

Thanks, Petzl!
--
Daniel

On 5/02/2022 8:57 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Petzl wrote on 5/2/22 7:25 am:
>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 23:35:06 +1100, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>>>>>
>>>>> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link, buggered
>>>>> if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God,
>>>>> whose
>>>>> compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked page,
>>>>> Petzl!!
>>>>>
>>>>> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
>>>>>
>>>> Never been changed since our constitution began
>>>
>>> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>>>
>> It most certainly does.
>> You and the dumb three have a lot of near miss's on pedestrian
>> crossings not know the difference between black and white!
>>
>>> Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and READ
>>> what is there, Petzl!!
>>>
>> Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
>>
> O,K., so perhaps you could point out to me (and others, maybe) where on
> THAT PAGE it mentions ""the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
> Name is Lord Jesus Christ"!!
>
> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>
> Thanks, Petzl!

:-)) How many years are you prepared to wait?

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:57:08 +1100, Daniel65 posted:-

> Petzl wrote on 5/2/22 7:25 am:
> > On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 23:35:06 +1100, Daniel65
> > <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
> >>>>>
> >>>> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link,
> >>>> buggered if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the
> >>>> Christian God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus
> >>>> Christ" in that linked page, Petzl!!
> >>>>
> >>>> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
> >>>>
> >>> Never been changed since our constitution began
> >>
> >> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
> >>
> > It most certainly does.
> > You and the dumb three have a lot of near miss's on pedestrian
> > crossings not know the difference between black and white!
> >
> >> Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and
> >> READ what is there, Petzl!!
> >>
> > Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
> >
> O,K., so perhaps you could point out to me (and others, maybe) where
> on THAT PAGE it mentions ""the Christian God, whose compound
> redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ"!!

Pizzle can't, he won't, he will wriggle and try to worm out of this.
>
> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>
> Thanks, Petzl!
> --
> Daniel

On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:53:22 +1100, Petzl posted:-

> --
> Petzl
> Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
> The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
> Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
> Not confirmation of their delusions.
> The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian
> Church. Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem
> countries Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God
> whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ Something as
> simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make
> them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

So you can't answer the specific question, which is to be expected.
Why paint yourself into the corner very time?

Petzl wrote on 6/2/22 8:52 am:
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:57:08 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>>> Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
>>>
>> O,K., so perhaps you could point out to me (and others, maybe) where on
>> THAT PAGE it mentions ""the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
>> Name is Lord Jesus Christ"!!
>>
>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>
>> Thanks, Petzl!
>
> The insertion of an acknowledgment of God into the Australian
> Constitution occurred in response to overwhelming public support,
> which came, among other things, from countless petitions received from
> the citizens of every single colony in Australia. Overall, these
> petitions reflected the general sentiments of the people for ‘some
> outward recognition’ of the Divine Providence, so that the work of the
> Australian Framers should ‘fix in our Constitution the elements of
> reverence and strength, by expressing our share of the universal sense
> that a Divine idea animates all our higher objects, and that the
> guiding hand of Providence leads our wanderings towards the dawn
>
> Our Constitution still recognises the monarch of the United Kingdom as
> our head of state.
>
> In the feudal system from which our monarchic system arose, the
> monarch was God's representative on earth and ruled by "Divine Right".
> In other words, the Queen is Queen because God says she is Queen. You
> and I cannot be a monarch because God has not chosen us.
>
> So, for the monarchy to enjoy any legitimacy at all, God must exist.
> If God does not exist, you and I have as much claim to the throne as
> Elizabeth Battenberg ever did and the whole neo-feudal system of rank
> and privilege comes crashing down.

Yeap!! Just as I thought ... no mention what so ever of "the Christian
God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ".

Well done, Petzl!
--
Daniel

Fran wrote on 5/2/22 10:05 pm:
> On 5/02/2022 8:57 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 5/2/22 7:25 am:
>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 23:35:06 +1100, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link,
>>>>>> buggered
>>>>>> if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God,
>>>>>> whose
>>>>>> compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked
>>>>>> page, Petzl!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
>>>>>>
>>>>> Never been changed since our constitution began
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>>>>
>>> It most certainly does.
>>> You and the dumb three have a lot of near miss's on pedestrian
>>> crossings not know the difference between black and white!
>>>
>>>> Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and READ
>>>> what is there, Petzl!!
>>>>
>>> Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
>>>
>> O,K., so perhaps you could point out to me (and others, maybe) where
>> on THAT PAGE it mentions ""the Christian God, whose compound
>> redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ"!!
>>
>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>
>> Thanks, Petzl!
>
> :-))  How many years are you prepared to wait?
>
Hopefully I've got fifteen to twenty years!! ;-P
--
Daniel

Petzl wrote on 6/2/22 4:37 pm:
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 04:50:18 -0000, West of the Rockies
> <Cowboy.Joe@montana.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:53:22 +1100, Petzl posted:-
>>
>>> --
>>> Petzl
>>> Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
>>> The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
>>> Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
>>> Not confirmation of their delusions.
>>> The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian
>>> Church. Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem
>>> countries Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God
>>> whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ Something as
>>> simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make
>>> them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
>>
>>
>> So you can't answer the specific question, which is to be expected.
>> Why paint yourself into the corner very time?
>>
> Why you snip my reply?
> You know I'm right that's why.
> You are just another mentally deficient idiot arse!

It's all still "Out There", Petzl!!

But in any case, your complete response did not mention "the Christian
God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ", Petzl!!

Your church may use that phrase, but neither Catholicism in general, nor
Christianity in general use that phrase!!
--
Daniel

It was written by Daniel65:

> Petz
>> Daniel65
>>
>>>> Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
>>>>
>>> O,K., so perhaps you could point out to me (and others, maybe) where
>>> on THAT PAGE it mentions ""the Christian God, whose compound
>>> redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ"!!
>>>
>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>>
>>> Thanks, Petzl!
>>
>> The insertion of an acknowledgment of God into the Australian
>> Constitution occurred in response to overwhelming public support,
>> which came, among other things, from countless petitions received from
>> the citizens of every single colony in Australia. Overall, these
>> petitions reflected the general sentiments of the people for ‘some
>> outward recognition’ of the Divine Providence, so that the work of the
>> Australian Framers should ‘fix in our Constitution the elements of
>> reverence and strength, by expressing our share of the universal sense
>> that a Divine idea animates all our higher objects, and that the
>> guiding hand of Providence leads our wanderings towards the dawn
>>
>> Our Constitution still recognises the monarch of the United Kingdom as
>> our head of state.
>>
>> In the feudal system from which our monarchic system arose, the monarch
>> was God's representative on earth and ruled by "Divine Right". In other
>> words, the Queen is Queen because God says she is Queen. You and I
>> cannot be a monarch because God has not chosen us.
>>
>> So, for the monarchy to enjoy any legitimacy at all, God must exist.
>> If God does not exist, you and I have as much claim to the throne as
>> Elizabeth Battenberg ever did and the whole neo-feudal system of rank
>> and privilege comes crashing down.
>
> Yeap!! Just as I thought ... no mention what so ever of "the Christian
> God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ".
>
> Well done, Petzl!

If you had now thought that you had convinced Petz about the errors of
his thinking and he'd concede the case you could not be more wrong.

At least, Petz has given a religion based justification for feudalism.
However Petz is more than 200 years too late, as capitalism well and
truly killed off feudal rule in its original form.
Although, this ghost of a class based social construct is hard to lay to
rest even without the religious justification. As we can clearly see the
new and rising "born to rule" upper class is rapidly moving to a form of
neo-feudalism completely holding on to the bulk of power and wealth.
In OZ we aren't quite there yet...but it is coming.

Theocracy enhanced fascism, that is what the political hard right is
determined to implement...and Petz is just a typically brain washed foot-
soldier committed to further that cause.

--
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It was written by Daniel65:

/ This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
poster inputs /

> Petz
>> Petz
>>> Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
>>> The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
>>> Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
>>> Not confirmation of their delusions.
>>> The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian
>>> Church. Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem
>>> countries Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God
>>> whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ Something as
>>> simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make
>>> them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
>>
>> Why you snip my reply?
>> You know I'm right that's why.
>> You are just another mentally deficient idiot arse!
>
> It's all still "Out There", Petzl!!

This is a common mental affliction amongst hard-right wankers:

They can't quite comprehend how Usenet works.
They always scream and throw verbal tantrums if you snip any part of
their idiotic output, even accusing you of *censorship*.
Nor can they comprehend how kill filters work.

> But in any case, your complete response did not mention "the Christian
> God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ", Petzl!!

Are you surprised? This is nothing but a typical semantic disaster.
> Your church may use that phrase, but neither Catholicism in general, nor
> Christianity in general use that phrase!!

In fact, all those years in my early youth when I still attended Catholic
had never heard this particular brain dead word salad.
It makes absolutely no sense:

1 How can a simple name be redemptive? A belief in a deity could be but
a name?

2 What is "compound" about "Lord Jesus Christ"?
I have long ago concluded that Petz is a fake Christian, a fake
Aboriginal and a fake human. I am yet to see a post from him proving me
wrong.

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Petz

> You are just being disingenuous!

He is not! You are!
Stop projecting.

> It's not now taught in school,

Xtian fundy reconstruction of facts and reality crap should not be
part of the curriculum in any public school in the 21st century.

> Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
> places us under a legally defined God - the Christian God,

B U L L S H I T!

> whose
> compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Idiotic and typical Xtian-fundamentalist word salad nonsense.

> Following the opening
> words of our Constitution, "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html

YAWN!
Your ilk's Wishful thinking is not the same as reality.

> According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
> be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.

MORE B U L L S H I T!

> This excludes non-Christians from political input. Clearly, those who
> now have most influence in this country are people with no love for
> Jesus Christ, or the Holy Bible.

R U B B I SH
Your ilk's Wishful thinking is not the same as reality.

~~~
~~~
Busting Petz's Xtian fundy BS hate and racist Xenophobia propaganda sig
is as follows:

> Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.

B U L L S H I T !

Mixing nationalism and hard right politics into Xtian teachings is
unXtian.
Why? Because sane Xtians say so!
< https://www.christiansagainstchristiannationalism.org/ >

> The Christian

.... hard-right fundamentalists like Petz are all ...

> Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;

You do Petz dear, and quite urgently so!

> Not confirmation of their delusions.

> The recognized place of worship ...

for Xtians

> ... is a Christian Church.

....and not public schools, workplaces, public forums nor the Parliament!
Australia is a secular country!

> Mosques are the recognized place of worship...

for Muslims.

> Australia's only legally defined God ...

is legally not been defined! LOL!

> ...denying Moslems a place to pray ...

....is violating their civil rights.
You'd would like that, won't you?
~~
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neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
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On 6/02/2022 10:51 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Fran wrote on 5/2/22 10:05 pm:
>> On 5/02/2022 8:57 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Petzl wrote on 5/2/22 7:25 am:
>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 23:35:06 +1100, Daniel65
>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I know my eye-sight is failing but, looking at that link,
>>>>>>> buggered
>>>>>>> if I can see any mention of *GOD* , let alone "the Christian God,
>>>>>>> whose
>>>>>>> compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ" in that linked
>>>>>>> page, Petzl!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You wouldn't be bullshitting us, would you, Petzl??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never been changed since our constitution began
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit, Petzl, it doesn't!!
>>>>>
>>>> It most certainly does.
>>>> You and the dumb three have a lot of near miss's on pedestrian
>>>> crossings not know the difference between black and white!
>>>>
>>>>> Have you actually clicked on your 'foundingdocs.gov.au" link and READ
>>>>> what is there, Petzl!!
>>>>>
>>>> Yes AND understood it don't have to be very bright to do so.
>>>>
>>> O,K., so perhaps you could point out to me (and others, maybe) where
>>> on THAT PAGE it mentions ""the Christian God, whose compound
>>> redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ"!!
>>>
>>> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
>>>
>>> Thanks, Petzl!
>>
>> :-))  How many years are you prepared to wait?
>>
> Hopefully I've got fifteen to twenty years!! ;-P

:-)))

*Ördög* wrote on 7/2/22 7:51 am:
> It was written by Daniel65:
>
> / This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
> poster inputs /
>
>> Petz
>>> Petz
>>>> Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
>>>> The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
>>>> Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
>>>> Not confirmation of their delusions.
>>>> The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian
>>>> Church. Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem
>>>> countries Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God
>>>> whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ Something as
>>>> simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make
>>>> them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
>>>
>>> Why you snip my reply?
>>> You know I'm right that's why.
>>> You are just another mentally deficient idiot arse!
>>
>> It's all still "Out There", Petzl!!
>
> This is a common mental affliction amongst hard-right wankers:

I was gunna let Petzl off, a bit, *IF* he were a Google-Grouper ... but
he isn't so he should have a bit of a clue how UseNet works!!

Nothing is lost ..... at least for as long as the retention time of the
various UseNet Servers!!

> They can't quite comprehend how Usenet works.
> They always scream and throw verbal tantrums if you snip any part of
> their idiotic output, even accusing you of *censorship*.
> Nor can they comprehend how kill filters work.
>
>> But in any case, your complete response did not mention "the Christian
>> God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ", Petzl!!
>
> Are you surprised? This is nothing but a typical semantic disaster.

Yeap!!

>> Your church may use that phrase, but neither Catholicism in general, nor
>> Christianity in general use that phrase!!
>
> In fact, all those years in my early youth when I still attended Catholic
> had never heard this particular brain dead word salad.
> It makes absolutely no sense:
>
> 1 How can a simple name be redemptive? A belief in a deity could be but
> a name?
>
> 2 What is "compound" about "Lord Jesus Christ"?
>
> I have long ago concluded that Petz is a fake Christian, a fake
> Aboriginal and a fake human. I am yet to see a post from him proving me
> wrong.

--
Daniel