Being a comparitive short-arse (1.70m) I am quite surprised that I can
put both feet flat on the floor at standstill (1997 Honda NTV 650),
must be a low seat or something? I've noticed that when stopping at
traffic lights I start with my legs behind the foot rests but then
quickly move them in front as it is more comfortable for blast off.
What do others do?

--
Geoff
NTV 650

"GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:t8sepj$m48$1@dont-email.me:

> Being a comparitive short-arse (1.70m) I am quite surprised that I can
> put both feet flat on the floor at standstill (1997 Honda NTV 650),
> must be a low seat or something? I've noticed that when stopping at
> traffic lights I start with my legs behind the foot rests but then
> quickly move them in front as it is more comfortable for blast off.
> What do others do?
>

I'm only slightly taller but take a 32" inside leg trouser, well 31" would
be better. Height is not directly proportional to leg length. If I had an
actual neck, I would be 6 foot.

I can flat foot a standard R1200GS or Yamaha Super Tenere. Gyp is a little
taller than me and he can only get one foot down on these if he slides an
arse cheek off the seat.

As for leg position, it varies but I always seem to be scraping my right
shin on a peg which suggests I go behind the peg. On my S1000XR, if I stand
up, both feet down, to relieve my arse at traffic lights then I am in front
of the pegs so that I am at the narrow part of the seat.

On 21/06/2022 14:20, wessie wrote:
> "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:t8sepj$m48$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> Being a comparitive short-arse (1.70m) I am quite surprised that I can
>> put both feet flat on the floor at standstill (1997 Honda NTV 650),
>> must be a low seat or something? I've noticed that when stopping at
>> traffic lights I start with my legs behind the foot rests but then
>> quickly move them in front as it is more comfortable for blast off.
>> What do others do?
>>
>
> I'm only slightly taller but take a 32" inside leg trouser, well 31" would
> be better. Height is not directly proportional to leg length.

Indeed, as I found out a couple of decades ago when my waist went up to
36" from 34", my inside leg length went down from 34" to 32".

Yes, that's right, 34"/34" to 36"/32" - for no change in height I must add!
Waist (not waste) is obviously a factor.

HTH, etc

Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 6/21/2022 6:20 AM, wessie wrote:
>
>
> I can flat foot a standard R1200GS or Yamaha Super Tenere. Gyp is a little
> taller than me and he can only get one foot down on these if he slides an
> arse cheek off the seat.
>
> As for leg position, it varies but I always seem to be scraping my right
> shin on a peg which suggests I go behind the peg.

Being a giraffe, I've never had a problem putting my feet down, or
getting a leg over. I did have a problem on the GS, though, in shifting
from 1st to 2nd. My knee, being so far forward, meant that my toes were
pointing down, not forward. Dunno why it didn't affect the upper gears.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 12:49:55 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:

>Being a comparitive short-arse (1.70m) I am quite surprised that I can
>put both feet flat on the floor at standstill (1997 Honda NTV 650),
>must be a low seat or something? I've noticed that when stopping at
>traffic lights I start with my legs behind the foot rests but then
>quickly move them in front as it is more comfortable for blast off.
>What do others do?

I have never thought about it. I'll try to remmeber.

--

-Pip

On 6/21/2022 1:40 PM, Pipl wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:55:10 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/2022 6:20 AM, wessie wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I can flat foot a standard R1200GS or Yamaha Super Tenere. Gyp is a little
>>> taller than me and he can only get one foot down on these if he slides an
>>> arse cheek off the seat.
>>>
>>> As for leg position, it varies but I always seem to be scraping my right
>>> shin on a peg which suggests I go behind the peg.
>>
>> Being a giraffe, I've never had a problem putting my feet down, or
>> getting a leg over. I did have a problem on the GS, though, in shifting
>>from 1st to 2nd. My knee, being so far forward, meant that my toes were
>> pointing down, not forward. Dunno why it didn't affect the upper gears.
>
> There's a slightly bigger lever throw between 1st and second, on some
> bikes anyway I think, to accomodate neutral.
>

probably

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 21/06/2022 15:51, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>
> Indeed, as I found out a couple of decades ago when my waist went up to
> 36" from 34", my inside leg length went down from 34" to 32".
>
> Yes, that's right, 34"/34" to 36"/32" - for no change in height I must add!
> Waist (not waste) is obviously a factor.

It's not that your legs got shorter, it's that your arse got bigger and
hung lower.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:58:20 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/21/2022 1:40 PM, Pipl wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:55:10 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>> I did have a problem on the GS, though, in shifting
>>> from 1st to 2nd. My knee, being so far forward, meant that my toes were
>>> pointing down, not forward. Dunno why it didn't affect the upper gears.
>>
>> There's a slightly bigger lever throw between 1st and second, on some
>> bikes anyway I think, to accomodate neutral.
>>
>
>probably

I don't know why you wouldn't have just adjusted the linkage to angle
the lever more in line with your foot.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On 6/22/2022 1:15 AM, Ace wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:58:20 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/2022 1:40 PM, Pipl wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:55:10 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I did have a problem on the GS, though, in shifting
>>>> from 1st to 2nd. My knee, being so far forward, meant that my toes were
>>>> pointing down, not forward. Dunno why it didn't affect the upper gears.
>>>
>>> There's a slightly bigger lever throw between 1st and second, on some
>>> bikes anyway I think, to accomodate neutral.
>>>
>>
>> probably
>
> I don't know why you wouldn't have just adjusted the linkage to angle
> the lever more in line with your foot.

Simple - I had more important things to do in life. It was a minor
inconvenience.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 21/06/2022 23:52, Eddie wrote:
> On 21/06/2022 15:51, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>>
>> Indeed, as I found out a couple of decades ago when my waist went up
>> to 36" from 34", my inside leg length went down from 34" to 32".
>>
>> Yes, that's right, 34"/34" to 36"/32" - for no change in height I must
>> add!
>> Waist (not waste) is obviously a factor.
>
> It's not that your legs got shorter, it's that your arse got bigger and
> hung lower.
>
That was my understanding too
:-/

Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 21/06/2022 13:49, GeoffC wrote:
> Being a comparitive short-arse (1.70m) I am quite surprised that I can
> put both feet flat on the floor at standstill (1997 Honda NTV 650),
> must be a low seat or something? I've noticed that when stopping at
> traffic lights I start with my legs behind the foot rests but then
> quickly move them in front as it is more comfortable for blast off.
> What do others do?
>

Your height has nothing to do with it, it's your leg length.

--
Gyp

On 22/06/2022 17:47, Gyp wrote:
> On 21/06/2022 13:49, GeoffC wrote:
>> Being a comparitive short-arse (1.70m) I am quite surprised that I can
>> put both feet flat on the floor at standstill (1997 Honda NTV 650),
>> must be a low seat or something? I've noticed that when stopping at
>> traffic lights I start with my legs behind the foot rests but then
>> quickly move them in front as it is more comfortable for blast off.
>> What do others do?
>>
>
> Your height has nothing to do with it, it's your leg length.

<sotto voce> Also your weight and softness of springs :-)

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On 6/22/2022 9:47 AM, Gyp wrote:
> On 21/06/2022 13:49, GeoffC wrote:
>> Being a comparitive short-arse (1.70m) I am quite surprised that I can
>> put both feet flat on the floor at standstill (1997 Honda NTV 650),
>> must be a low seat or something? I've noticed that when stopping at
>> traffic lights I start with my legs behind the foot rests but then
>> quickly move them in front as it is more comfortable for blast off.
>> What do others do?
>>
>
> Your height has nothing to do with it, it's your leg length.
>
<trying to picture a 5'6" man with 36" legs>

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 21/06/2022 14:20, wessie wrote:

> I can flat foot a standard R1200GS or Yamaha Super Tenere. Gyp is a little
> taller than me and he can only get one foot down on these if he slides an
> arse cheek off the seat.

Yeah, ya lanky git!

--
Gyp

On 23/06/2022 04:42, Turby wrote:

>> Your height has nothing to do with it, it's your leg length.
>>
> <trying to picture a 5'6" man with 36" legs>

Have you seen Wessie?

Myself and Horse are a good example of my problem. We are now both
exactly the same height, but I take a 28" inside leg and him a 32".

Both 5'10" but 4" difference in leg length.

He has no problem flat footing bikes that I couldn't even consider. And
then he laughs at me.

What I really don't get is that he adjusts the adjust the car seat
closer to the wheel than I do so his legs must be in some weird
contorted position.

I know I've mentioned it before many times but the BMW configuratior
that used to be on their web page, that would only accept my leg length
if I adjusted my height down to 5'6" or so, then when I added my waist
measurement the avatar morphed into the spitting image of Cartman from
South Park. Then to add insult to injury then informed me that I was
unable to ride any of their motorcycles.

Bastards.

--
Gyp

On 6/23/2022 10:13 AM, Gyp wrote:
> On 23/06/2022 04:42, Turby wrote:
>
>>> Your height has nothing to do with it, it's your leg length.
>>>
>> <trying to picture a 5'6" man with 36" legs>
>
> Have you seen Wessie?

Yeah. He doesn't have 36" legs.
>
> Myself and Horse are a good example of my problem. We are now both
> exactly the same height, but I take a 28" inside leg and him a 32".
>
> Both 5'10" but 4" difference in leg length.
>

OK, I get that. Now subtract another 4" in height and add 4" in leg length.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

Gyp <a@b.c> wrote in news:t926uv$u0j$1@dont-email.me:

> On 23/06/2022 04:42, Turby wrote:
>
>>> Your height has nothing to do with it, it's your leg length.
>>>
>> <trying to picture a 5'6" man with 36" legs>
>
> Have you seen Wessie?
>
> Myself and Horse are a good example of my problem. We are now both
> exactly the same height, but I take a 28" inside leg and him a 32".
>
> Both 5'10" but 4" difference in leg length.
>
> He has no problem flat footing bikes that I couldn't even consider.
> And then he laughs at me.
>
> What I really don't get is that he adjusts the adjust the car seat
> closer to the wheel than I do so his legs must be in some weird
> contorted position.
>

I imagine you have the same clearance for your abdomen and the steering
wheel

> I know I've mentioned it before many times but the BMW configuratior
> that used to be on their web page, that would only accept my leg
> length if I adjusted my height down to 5'6" or so, then when I added
> my waist measurement the avatar morphed into the spitting image of
> Cartman from South Park. Then to add insult to injury then informed me
> that I was unable to ride any of their motorcycles.
>
> Bastards.
>

I can comfortably touch the floor on all bar the GS Adventure. I can
only just see over many screens and often have my head in the dirty air
where a 6 footer would probably be in the bubble of clean air

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:01 +0100, Gyp <a@b.c> wrote:

>What I really don't get is that he adjusts the adjust the car seat
>closer to the wheel than I do so his legs must be in some weird
>contorted position.

That's a different thing all together. In a car [1], I have the seat
much further forward than almost everyone I know, because I seem to
use my knee joint rather than my ankle joint to press the pedals

[1] or truck or bus
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 23/06/2022 21:27, Champ wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:01 +0100, Gyp <a@b.c> wrote:
>
>> What I really don't get is that he adjusts the adjust the car seat
>> closer to the wheel than I do so his legs must be in some weird
>> contorted position.
>
> That's a different thing all together. In a car [1], I have the seat
> much further forward than almost everyone I know, because I seem to
> use my knee joint rather than my ankle joint to press the pedals
>

I thought I did too, but as this week I'm breaking in my first ever pair
of DM 1460s [1] I've discovered I use my ankle on the clutch more than I
realised [2]

[1] More accurate to say they are breaking me in
[2] Or at the moment I don't

--
Gyp