Placed a pre order for an iPhone 14 Pro Max earlier today, I normally
upgrade every four years. Got my 6 Plus in October 2014 and replaced it
with current XR in January 2019 although it was released in September 2018.

It’s now September 2022 and I’m upgrading upon its release like I did with
6 Plus. Looking to get £175 for my 128GB XR selling privately.

Am 13.09.22 um 17:35 schrieb Koopa:
>
>
> Placed a pre order for an iPhone 14 Pro Max earlier today, I normally
> upgrade every four years. Got my 6 Plus in October 2014 and replaced it
> with current XR in January 2019 although it was released in September 2018.
>
> It’s now September 2022 and I’m upgrading upon its release like I did with
> 6 Plus. Looking to get £175 for my 128GB XR selling privately.

Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?

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Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>

Sorry my bad.

Am 13.09.22 um 18:33 schrieb Koopa:
> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>
>
> Sorry my bad.

Burnelli, you have a mess.

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On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 13.09.22 um 17:35 schrieb Koopa:
>>
>>
>> Placed a pre order for an iPhone 14 Pro Max earlier today, I normally
>> upgrade every four years. Got my 6 Plus in October 2014 and replaced it
>> with current XR in January 2019 although it was released in September 2018.
>>
>> It’s now September 2022 and I’m upgrading upon its release like I did with
>> 6 Plus. Looking to get £175 for my 128GB XR selling privately.
>
> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?

Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is
dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison

Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>
> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.

You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.

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On 13 Sep 2022 at 22:04:01 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>
>> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
>> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.
>
> You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
> all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.

Oh, you're one of those "follow people around between groups" types.
That explains it. What a dull hobby.

Cheers - Jaimie
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made perfect sense in my brain but on passing through
my fingers turned into a word salad suggesting that
someone had jammed an ice pick into my head and
stirred while I was typing. -- James Nicoll

On 13 Sep 2022 at 22:04:01 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>
>> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
>> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.
>
> You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
> all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.

Then put him your kill file so you don't see the posts.
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Am 14.09.22 um 03:51 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
> On 13 Sep 2022 at 22:04:01 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>> Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
>>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>>
>>> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
>>> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.
>>
>> You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
>> all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.
>
> Oh, you're one of those "follow people around between groups" types.
> That explains it. What a dull hobby.

You are trolling too? How boring.
Do you have material contribution in this or another thread?

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Am 14.09.22 um 07:57 schrieb Ray:
> On 13 Sep 2022 at 22:04:01 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>> Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
>>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>>
>>> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
>>> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.
>>
>> You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
>> all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.
>
> Then put him your kill file so you don't see the posts.

Exactly. Vandenbergh's comment is indeed more than redundant.

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On 14 Sep 2022 at 08:19:12 BST, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> Am 14.09.22 um 07:57 schrieb Ray:
>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 22:04:01 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
>>>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
>>>> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.
>>>
>>> You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
>>> all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.
>>
>> Then put him your kill file so you don't see the posts.
>
> Exactly. Vandenbergh's comment is indeed more than redundant.

Not really. Although kill file is a good idea for certain posters in this
thread. I like that.
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On 14/09/2022 08:19, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 14.09.22 um 07:57 schrieb Ray:
>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 22:04:01 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
>>>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
>>>> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.
>>>
>>> You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
>>> all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.
>>
>> Then put him your kill file so you don't see the posts.
>
> Exactly. Vandenbergh's comment is indeed more than redundant.

Why does this information reside in your message 'header'?

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2

It's EXACTLY the same as in MY headers! Viz:-

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2

I'm prepared to wager, though, that you are NOT using 10.15!

I'm now using macOS Monterey Version Version 12.6

Perhaps you aren't really a 'techie' and have a no-eyed deer?

On 14/09/2022 09:45, RJH wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2022 at 08:19:12 BST, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> Am 14.09.22 um 07:57 schrieb Ray:
>>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 22:04:01 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 13.09.22 um 21:55 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
>>>>> On 13 Sep 2022 at 17:26:57 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>>> Why do you think that is of interest to anybody?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you feel it's okay to be so sharp to everyone? This is an open
>>>>> pub conversation. If you're not interested, *you* can skip threads.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to have no idea who "Koopa Troopa" is. He is the Chameleon of
>>>> all englishspeaking iPhone and Mac groups aka Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton.
>>>
>>> Then put him your kill file so you don't see the posts.
>>
>> Exactly. Vandenbergh's comment is indeed more than redundant.
>
> Not really. Although kill file is a good idea for certain posters in this
> thread. I like that.

Which posters are you thinking of, Rob?

Am 14.09.22 um 10:56 schrieb HunterBD:
> Why does this information reside in your message 'header'?
>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2
>
> It's EXACTLY the same as in MY headers! Viz:-
>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2
>
> I'm prepared to wager, though, that you are NOT using 10.15!
>
> I'm now using macOS Monterey Version Version 12.6

Exactly.
Are you really sure that you are capable to read and interpret correctly
what you see in a posting-header?

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On 14/09/2022 11:12, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 14.09.22 um 10:56 schrieb HunterBD:
>> Why does this information reside in your message 'header'?
>>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0)
>> Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2
>>
>> It's EXACTLY the same as in MY headers! Viz:-
>>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0)
>> Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2
>>
>> I'm prepared to wager, though, that you are NOT using 10.15!
>>
>> I'm now using macOS Monterey Version Version 12.6
>
> Exactly.
> Are you really sure that you are capable to read and interpret correctly
> what you see in a posting-header?

No! Not at all!

ESPECIALLY as I'm well aware that just about anything in a message
header can be forged!

So I try to reply to the message/post - *NOT* to the person posting!

Koopa <koopa@troopa.net> wrote:
>
>
> Placed a pre order for an iPhone 14 Pro Max earlier today, I normally
> upgrade every four years. Got my 6 Plus in October 2014 and replaced it
> with current XR in January 2019 although it was released in September 2018.
>
> It’s now September 2022 and I’m upgrading upon its release like I did with
> 6 Plus. Looking to get £175 for my 128GB XR selling privately.

I’m very tempted. I’m wondering how much I might get for my 11 as spending
a four figure sun might not go down that well with my other half!

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Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I’m very tempted. I’m wondering how much I might get for my 11 as spending
> a four figure sun might not go down that well with my other half!
>

I’m lucky I don’t have to answer to anyone, check out trade in prices then
add about £50 or so for private sale price…

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/trade-in

Am 14.09.22 um 12:20 schrieb HunterBD:
> On 14/09/2022 11:12, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Exactly.
>> Are you really sure that you are capable to read and interpret correctly
>> what you see in a posting-header?
>
> No! Not at all!
>
> ESPECIALLY as I'm well aware that just about anything in a message
> header can be forged!
>
> So I try to reply to the message/post - *NOT* to the person posting!

A smart faker would exactly forge the headers to a degree that makes it
impossible to identify him.

The case - or let's say our identitiy forger - is/does exactly the
opposite. Burnelli/Arlen/Ragnussen/Newton is too stupid or too lazy to
do that.

My guess: Too stupid.

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Koopa <koopa@troopa.net> wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I’m very tempted. I’m wondering how much I might get for my 11 as spending
>> a four figure sun might not go down that well with my other half!
>>
>
> I’m lucky I don’t have to answer to anyone, check out trade in prices then
> add about £50 or so for private sale price…
>
> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/trade-in

Thanks. Had an email from Apple this morning inviting me to buy a 14. This
“Dynamic Island” features looks interesting.

<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/use-dynamic-island-iphone-14-pro/>

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Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Thanks. Had an email from Apple this morning inviting me to buy a 14. This
> “Dynamic Island” features looks interesting.
>
> <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/use-dynamic-island-iphone-14-pro/>

My local Apple store have some iPhone 14 Pro 1TB Deep Purple in stock and
some iPhone 14 128GB in Midnight, Starlight, Red & Blue in stock. Also,
some iPhone 14 256GB Red in stock.

Koopa <koopa@troopa.net> wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. Had an email from Apple this morning inviting me to buy a 14. This
>> “Dynamic Island” features looks interesting.
>>
>> <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/use-dynamic-island-iphone-14-pro/>
>
> My local Apple store have some iPhone 14 Pro 1TB Deep Purple in stock and
> some iPhone 14 128GB in Midnight, Starlight, Red & Blue in stock. Also,
> some iPhone 14 256GB Red in stock.

It seems certain iPhone 14 models aren’t selling too well (maybe just in
the USA). So there may be scope for some decent discounts and lower used
prices?

<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/30/more-signs-of-low-iphone-14-demand-emerge/>

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Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> It seems certain iPhone 14 models aren’t selling too well (maybe just in
> the USA). So there may be scope for some decent discounts and lower used
> prices?
>
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/30/more-signs-of-low-iphone-14-demand-emerge/>
>

I’ve not been watching sales of the standard model but the Pros have been
selling out in all capacities. No Pro Max stock of any size yet, this at my
local Apple store.

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> It seems certain iPhone 14 models aren’t selling too well (maybe just in
> the USA). So there may be scope for some decent discounts and lower used
> prices?
>
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/30/more-signs-of-low-iphone-14-demand-emerge/>

That sounds a bit odd to me: who buys a new iPhone and then a week later
trades it in? Presumably only someone who has had some kind of emergency
and find they need the money more than the phone. In that case supply and
hence used prices really depend on the prevalence of emergencies which is a
measure of the economy, not the phone. There hasn't really been enough time
to establish prices based on sales figures.

Or I suppose people who buy the phone and really hate it - but then I'd have
thought they would be able to return it.

Theo

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> It seems certain iPhone 14 models aren’t selling too well (maybe just in
>> the USA). So there may be scope for some decent discounts and lower used
>> prices?
>>
>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/30/more-signs-of-low-iphone-14-demand-emerge/>
>
> That sounds a bit odd to me: who buys a new iPhone and then a week later
> trades it in? Presumably only someone who has had some kind of emergency
> and find they need the money more than the phone. In that case supply and
> hence used prices really depend on the prevalence of emergencies which is a
> measure of the economy, not the phone. There hasn't really been enough time
> to establish prices based on sales figures.
>
> Or I suppose people who buy the phone and really hate it - but then I'd have
> thought they would be able to return it.

Yes I was confused by that but I would probably be after a new phone
especially if Apple decide to discount them.

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On 2 Oct 2022 at 15:01:04 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> It seems certain iPhone 14 models aren’t selling too well (maybe just in
>>> the USA). So there may be scope for some decent discounts and lower used
>>> prices?
>>>
>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/30/more-signs-of-low-iphone-14-demand-emerge/>
>>
>> That sounds a bit odd to me: who buys a new iPhone and then a week later
>> trades it in? Presumably only someone who has had some kind of emergency
>> and find they need the money more than the phone. In that case supply and
>> hence used prices really depend on the prevalence of emergencies which is a
>> measure of the economy, not the phone. There hasn't really been enough time
>> to establish prices based on sales figures.
>>
>> Or I suppose people who buy the phone and really hate it - but then I'd have
>> thought they would be able to return it.
>
> Yes I was confused by that but I would probably be after a new phone
> especially if Apple decide to discount them.

I'd assume those percentage drops are the buy in values as they are averages
of information from sellers of pre owned phones.
Who will obviously re sell at a profit. And 10 days is a stupid time frame as
owners would still have the option to return the phone for a full refund.
The current worldwide economic situation is going to impact on sales in
general. Not really surprising.
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