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* EurovisionBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
+* EurovisionTease'n'Seize
|+* EurovisionPeter
||+* EurovisionMike Fleming
|||+- EurovisionBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
|||`* EurovisionSam Plusnet
||| `- EurovisionRichard Robinson
||`* EurovisionBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
|| +* EurovisionNick Odell
|| |`* EurovisionAhem A Rivet's Shot
|| | +- EurovisionNick Odell
|| | `* EurovisionMike Fleming
|| |  `* EurovisionNick Odell
|| |   `* EurovisionTone
|| |    +- EurovisionRustyHinge
|| |    `* Eurovisionmaus
|| |     `* EurovisionNicholas D. Richards
|| |      `* EurovisionAhem A Rivet's Shot
|| |       +* EurovisionRustyHinge
|| |       |+- EurovisionAhem A Rivet's Shot
|| |       |+* Eurovisionmaus
|| |       ||+- EurovisionDon Stockbauer
|| |       ||`- EurovisionKerr-Mudd, John
|| |       |`* EurovisionTease'n'Seize
|| |       | `* EurovisionSam Plusnet
|| |       |  `* EurovisionTone
|| |       |   +* EurovisionAhem A Rivet's Shot
|| |       |   |+* EurovisionJohn Williamson
|| |       |   ||+- EurovisionNicholas D. Richards
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|| |       |   | `- EurovisionNicholas D. Richards
|| |       |   `- EurovisionRustyHinge
|| |       +* EurovisionSam Plusnet
|| |       |+- EurovisionPeter
|| |       |`* Eurovisionmaus
|| |       | +- EurovisionRustyHinge
|| |       | `* EurovisionTone
|| |       |  +* EurovisionNicholas D. Richards
|| |       |  |+* Eurovisionmaus
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|| |       |  | |`* EurovisionChrisND@privacy.net
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|| |       |  `* EurovisionRustyHinge
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|| |       |   `* EurovisionJim S
|| |       |    `- EurovisionTone
|| |       `* EurovisionNicholas D. Richards
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|| |        |+- EurovisionAhem A Rivet's Shot
|| |        |`* EurovisionNicholas D. Richards
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|| |        | |`* EurovisionDon Stockbauer
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|| |        |   `- Eurovisionmaus
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|| `* EurovisionMike Fleming
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||`* EurovisionBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
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||`* EurovisionBernard Peek
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|`- EurovisionBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
+* EurovisionPeter
|+* EurovisionRustyHinge
||`- EurovisionBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
|+* EurovisionSam Plusnet
|`- EurovisionBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
+* EurovisionAdrian Caspersz
+* Eurovisionnev young
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Re: Eurovision

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 by: Nick Odell - Sat, 14 May 2022 20:34 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 02:15:34 +0100, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 13/05/2022 19:14, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 18:09:01 +0100
>> Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 16:06:19 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
>>> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who would name themselves after an American electric Guitar? a lump of
>>>> wood with pick ups on it basically.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yet some people will pay £150,000 for a lump of wood with pick ups on
>>> it.
>>> <https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/joe-bonamassa-gibson-les-paul-b2078320.html>
>>
>> I've seen a lot of Les Pauls but I've never seen one with a tail
>> piece like that.
>
>Bigsby trems were a mod that was done to various Gibsons, SGs and 335s
>as well as Les Pauls.
>
>https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bigsby+tremolo&iax=images&ia=images
>
>That Les Paul looks gorgeous but absolutely filthy. I wonder if it was
>only "unplayable" because whoever assessed it was afraid of catching
>something from it.

I dunno about that but in various stories it said that the shopkeeper
had planned to restore it before putting it up for sale but Joe
Bonnamassi had insited on taking it unimproved.

Good call, Mr Bonnamassi: scouring in and around the shop website I
found no evidence to suggest the business knows anything about how to
restore a £150,000 instrument.

Nick

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 by: Nick Odell - Sat, 14 May 2022 20:44 UTC

On Fri, 13 May 2022 22:45:52 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 12-May-22 20:24, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>
>>
>> There should be two classes of the contest (and why not more?).
>>
>> One aligned to modern pop music and production, and the other to the
>> more traditional performance. Having both in the same event is a glitz
>> emblazoned disappointing car crash.
>
>Why stop there?
>Have a few retrospectives like Eurovision winner for the 14th Century.
>It would be harder to vote on nationalist grounds, since a fair number
>of countries have only come into existence since that time.

Anybody not familiar with Richard Thompson's "1000 Years of Popular
Music" should go and find one of the concert performances on the toob
of ewes.

Backstory. In or around 1999 when everybody was going millennium
crazy, a magazine asked lots of famous people to name the best song of
the millennium. Richard Thompson guessed (correctly as it happens)
that nobody was going to think of anything more than about fifty years
old but decided to pitch in with something from about five hundred
years ago. His suggestion was ignored but it gave him the idea for the
concert programme. As you will see, most of the songs are 19th and
20th Century - including the most chilling Britney Spears cover
version you are ever likely to hear - but there are one or two from
the far distant past.

Nick

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sat, 14 May 2022 21:51 UTC

On 14-May-22 15:20, maus wrote:
> On 2022-05-13, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 12-May-22 20:24, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There should be two classes of the contest (and why not more?).
>>>
>>> One aligned to modern pop music and production, and the other to the
>>> more traditional performance. Having both in the same event is a glitz
>>> emblazoned disappointing car crash.
>>
>> Why stop there?
>> Have a few retrospectives like Eurovision winner for the 14th Century.
>> It would be harder to vote on nationalist grounds, since a fair number
>> of countries have only come into existence since that time.
>
> And quite a few have disappeared. 14th century would be the arrival of
> the Black Death. Who is ruler of Burgundy the noo?

I don't know. Maybe it's the drink.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Tone - Sun, 15 May 2022 00:38 UTC

On 14/05/2022 21:34, Nick Odell wrote:
>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bigsby+tremolo&iax=images&ia=images
>>
>> That Les Paul looks gorgeous but absolutely filthy. I wonder if it was
>> only "unplayable" because whoever assessed it was afraid of catching
>> something from it.
> I dunno about that but in various stories it said that the shopkeeper
> had planned to restore it before putting it up for sale but Joe
> Bonnamassi had insited on taking it unimproved.
>
> Good call, Mr Bonnamassi: scouring in and around the shop website I
> found no evidence to suggest the business knows anything about how to
> restore a £150,000 instrument.
>
> Nick

Joe was on Jules this evening.

Apparently he now has 500 guitars (and 500 amps).

I guess they are a betterer investment than the bank account.

Tone

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 by: RustyHinge - Sun, 15 May 2022 04:12 UTC

On 15/05/2022 01:38, Tone wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 21:34, Nick Odell wrote:
>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bigsby+tremolo&iax=images&ia=images
>>>
>>> That Les Paul looks gorgeous but absolutely filthy. I wonder if it was
>>> only "unplayable" because whoever assessed it was afraid of catching
>>> something from it.
>> I dunno about that but in various stories it said that the shopkeeper
>> had planned to restore it before putting it up for sale but Joe
>> Bonnamassi had insited on taking it unimproved.
>>
>> Good call, Mr Bonnamassi: scouring in and around the shop website I
>> found no evidence to suggest the business knows anything about how to
>> restore a £150,000 instrument.
>>
>> Nick
>
> Joe was on Jules this evening.
>
> Apparently he now has 500 guitars (and 500 amps).
>
> I guess they are a betterer investment than the bank account.

500 amps is currentl quite a lot, but at what voltage?

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: maus - Sun, 15 May 2022 07:05 UTC

On 2022-05-15, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 21:34, Nick Odell wrote:
>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bigsby+tremolo&iax=images&ia=images
>>>
>>> That Les Paul looks gorgeous but absolutely filthy. I wonder if it was
>>> only "unplayable" because whoever assessed it was afraid of catching
>>> something from it.
>> I dunno about that but in various stories it said that the shopkeeper
>> had planned to restore it before putting it up for sale but Joe
>> Bonnamassi had insited on taking it unimproved.
>>
>> Good call, Mr Bonnamassi: scouring in and around the shop website I
>> found no evidence to suggest the business knows anything about how to
>> restore a £150,000 instrument.
>>
>> Nick
>
> Joe was on Jules this evening.
>
> Apparently he now has 500 guitars (and 500 amps).
>
> I guess they are a betterer investment than the bank account.

Almost anything is better now than bank accounts. My bank is charging on
accounts over one million, not that I have such money. I used buy rare
stamps, I think that the album is worth more than the stamps now.

Chucked a bag of old coins (English and Irish) into a cupboard before
decimilization. Sometime I will tell the people who live there about it.

>
> Tone

--
greymausg@mail.com
Ten, twenty million losses, tops

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 15 May 2022 10:03 UTC

In article <slrnt819i2.3io.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
Sun, 15 May 2022 at 07:05:39 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 2022-05-15, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>> On 14/05/2022 21:34, Nick Odell wrote:
>>
>> Joe was on Jules this evening.
>>
>> Apparently he now has 500 guitars (and 500 amps).
>>
>> I guess they are a betterer investment than the bank account.
>
>Almost anything is better now than bank accounts. My bank is charging on
>accounts over one million, not that I have such money. I used buy rare
>stamps, I think that the album is worth more than the stamps now.
>
>Chucked a bag of old coins (English and Irish) into a cupboard before
>decimilization. Sometime I will tell the people who live there about it.
>
I currently have a couple of silver sixpences, are they worth more than
my couple of currant accounts?

My Mum used to put them in her home made Christmas Puddings. At the
autumn half term she used to make mincemeat and Christmas Puddings.
Christmas Puddings made in 19 hundred and frozen to death were eaten at
Christmas of 19 hundred and frozen to death + 1. We ate two puddings, 1
at Christmas and 1 at New Year, £Diety knows what she did with the
others. She used to fill the laundry copper kettle with puddings and
cooked them before storage and distribution.

60(ish) years ago my best mate used to go round junk shops looking for
old coins. He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth". They
were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the pound
(weight). He called them cartwheels.

If he kept them, they must be the best investment he ever made.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Peter - Sun, 15 May 2022 10:11 UTC

Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote in
news:pl408h12nqlce5e9n3k7gavg1pi4govubf@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 13 May 2022 22:45:52 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>>On 12-May-22 20:24, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There should be two classes of the contest (and why not more?).
>>>
>>> One aligned to modern pop music and production, and the other to the
>>> more traditional performance. Having both in the same event is a glitz
>>> emblazoned disappointing car crash.
>>
>>Why stop there?
>>Have a few retrospectives like Eurovision winner for the 14th Century.
>>It would be harder to vote on nationalist grounds, since a fair number
>>of countries have only come into existence since that time.
>
> Anybody not familiar with Richard Thompson's "1000 Years of Popular
> Music" should go and find one of the concert performances on the toob
> of ewes.
>
> Backstory. In or around 1999 when everybody was going millennium
> crazy, a magazine asked lots of famous people to name the best song of
> the millennium. Richard Thompson guessed (correctly as it happens)
> that nobody was going to think of anything more than about fifty years
> old but decided to pitch in with something from about five hundred
> years ago. His suggestion was ignored but it gave him the idea for the
> concert programme. As you will see, most of the songs are 19th and
> 20th Century - including the most chilling Britney Spears cover
> version you are ever likely to hear - but there are one or two from
> the far distant past.

Molishes sense. "Popular" is a rather short-term attribute, on the whole.

--
Peter
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 by: Peter - Sun, 15 May 2022 10:25 UTC

Watched it last night. First time I've watched the song contest for a couple
of decades. It wasn't nearly as bad as I expected - some dismal dirges but a
lot of quite catchy tunes there. I enjoyed the Serapu entry sung in Breton
(I imagine that Cornish speakers would have been able to understand it, to
some extent). The Ukraine entry was good in its own right, politix appart.

Graham Norton was coming the old acid rather well - maybe not as well as
Wogan uster do it but still enjoyable. I fast forwarded through the local
comentary and didn't bovver with the results.

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 by: Richard Robinson - Sun, 15 May 2022 11:51 UTC

Nick Odell said:
> On Fri, 13 May 2022 22:45:52 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>Why stop there?
>>Have a few retrospectives like Eurovision winner for the 14th Century.
>>It would be harder to vote on nationalist grounds, since a fair number
>>of countries have only come into existence since that time.
>
> Anybody not familiar with Richard Thompson's "1000 Years of Popular
> Music" should go and find one of the concert performances on the toob
> of ewes.
>
> Backstory. In or around 1999 when everybody was going millennium
> crazy, a magazine asked lots of famous people to name the best song of
> the millennium. Richard Thompson guessed (correctly as it happens)
> that nobody was going to think of anything more than about fifty years
> old but decided to pitch in with something from about five hundred
> years ago. His suggestion was ignored but it gave him the idea for the
> concert programme. As you will see, most of the songs are 19th and
> 20th Century - including the most chilling Britney Spears cover
> version you are ever likely to hear - but there are one or two from
> the far distant past.

TBH, I was disappointed with the CD. Several of the songs struck me as
mot exactly the best that a thousand years could have come up with;
(temporarily) popular or not.

But this has been happening with Mr. Thompson, for me. Listenm to his
more recet jbex, give up halfway through and revert to the 70s/80 stuff.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 15 May 2022 12:46 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 11:03:43 +0100
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
> copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
> bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth". They
> were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the pound
> (weight). He called them cartwheels.

I am very sure I'm not the only one here who unforgets spending
those pennies, you could get a lot of blackjacks for one. The threepence I
used to get for a bus fare to the infants school (I was five) ohled a nice
big bag of sweets if I walked to fpubby.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Nick Odell - Sun, 15 May 2022 13:35 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 06:51:29 -0500, Richard Robinson
<richardR@privacy.net> wrote:

>Nick Odell said:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 22:45:52 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Why stop there?
>>>Have a few retrospectives like Eurovision winner for the 14th Century.
>>>It would be harder to vote on nationalist grounds, since a fair number
>>>of countries have only come into existence since that time.
>>
>> Anybody not familiar with Richard Thompson's "1000 Years of Popular
>> Music" should go and find one of the concert performances on the toob
>> of ewes.
>>
>> Backstory. In or around 1999 when everybody was going millennium
>> crazy, a magazine asked lots of famous people to name the best song of
>> the millennium. Richard Thompson guessed (correctly as it happens)
>> that nobody was going to think of anything more than about fifty years
>> old but decided to pitch in with something from about five hundred
>> years ago. His suggestion was ignored but it gave him the idea for the
>> concert programme. As you will see, most of the songs are 19th and
>> 20th Century - including the most chilling Britney Spears cover
>> version you are ever likely to hear - but there are one or two from
>> the far distant past.
>
>TBH, I was disappointed with the CD. Several of the songs struck me as
>mot exactly the best that a thousand years could have come up with;
>(temporarily) popular or not.
>
>
>But this has been happening with Mr. Thompson, for me. Listenm to his
>more recet jbex, give up halfway through and revert to the 70s/80 stuff.

MTAAW.

I don't have very much of his more recent material at all and
although, IMO, some of his recent songs are very good indeed, IMO
there aren't enough of 'em on one CD to make me want to buy it and
also IMO the very good indeed songs seem to be a bit interchangeable
with each other.

But like you I still like the older material. BTW, last night and for
the first time I realised that his Wheel of Death and Carole King's Up
On The Roof are almost the same song. FSVO

Nick

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 by: RustyHinge - Sun, 15 May 2022 17:10 UTC

On 15/05/2022 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2022 11:03:43 +0100
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
>> copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
>> bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth". They
>> were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the pound
>> (weight). He called them cartwheels.
>
> I am very sure I'm not the only one here who unforgets spending
> those pennies, you could get a lot of blackjacks for one. The threepence I
> used to get for a bus fare to the infants school (I was five) ohled a nice
> big bag of sweets if I walked to fpubby.

'Cartwheel' pennies were much larger than pennies ou could spend, both
in diameter and in thickness. Being copper rather than bronze, they
wore very quickly and it was quite rare to see one with really clear detail.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 15 May 2022 17:45 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 18:10:05 +0100
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 15/05/2022 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 May 2022 11:03:43 +0100
> > "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> >
> >> He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
> >> copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
> >> bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth".
> >> They were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the
> >> pound (weight). He called them cartwheels.
> >
> > I am very sure I'm not the only one here who unforgets spending
> > those pennies, you could get a lot of blackjacks for one. The
> > threepence I used to get for a bus fare to the infants school (I was
> > five) ohled a nice big bag of sweets if I walked to fpubby.
>
> 'Cartwheel' pennies were much larger than pennies ou could spend, both
> in diameter and in thickness. Being copper rather than bronze, they
> wore very quickly and it was quite rare to see one with really clear
> detail.

Oh wow - I had never even heard of those. I stand corrected.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: maus - Sun, 15 May 2022 18:17 UTC

On 2022-05-15, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 11:03:43 +0100
>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>
>>> He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
>>> copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
>>> bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth". They
>>> were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the pound
>>> (weight). He called them cartwheels.
>>
>> I am very sure I'm not the only one here who unforgets spending
>> those pennies, you could get a lot of blackjacks for one. The threepence I
>> used to get for a bus fare to the infants school (I was five) ohled a nice
>> big bag of sweets if I walked to fpubby.
>
> 'Cartwheel' pennies were much larger than pennies ou could spend, both
> in diameter and in thickness. Being copper rather than bronze, they
> wore very quickly and it was quite rare to see one with really clear detail.
>
My hoard of old pennies contain some very worn ones, only the ones with
clear inscriptions are worth anything. As I wrote, they are not really
accessible to me any more, and householders around here are liable to
look unkindly on strangers who want to search their cupboards.

It's kinda nice to look at old pennies with Victoria in halfface on the
back, and wonder what it was like when they were first issued.

"But fumble in a greasy till And add the halfpence to the pence"

--
greymausg@mail.com
Ten, twenty million losses, tops

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 15 May 2022 20:23 UTC

On 15-May-22 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2022 11:03:43 +0100
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
>> copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
>> bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth". They
>> were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the pound
>> (weight). He called them cartwheels.
>
> I am very sure I'm not the only one here who unforgets spending
> those pennies, you could get a lot of blackjacks for one. The threepence I
> used to get for a bus fare to the infants school (I was five) ohled a nice
> big bag of sweets if I walked to fpubby.
>
One of my grandfathers was the first 'Lollypop' men in our village & he
would give me a penny as I walked home from school.
I would then spend it in Grandma's[1] shop.

[1] T'other lot of grandparents.

Blackjacks were a farthing each, or five for a penny.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sun, 15 May 2022 20:24 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 1:17:40 PM UTC-5, maus wrote:
> On 2022-05-15, RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 15/05/2022 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> >> On Sun, 15 May 2022 11:03:43 +0100
> >> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
> >>> copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
> >>> bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth". They
> >>> were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the pound
> >>> (weight). He called them cartwheels.
> >>
> >> I am very sure I'm not the only one here who unforgets spending
> >> those pennies, you could get a lot of blackjacks for one. The threepence I
> >> used to get for a bus fare to the infants school (I was five) ohled a nice
> >> big bag of sweets if I walked to fpubby.
> >
> > 'Cartwheel' pennies were much larger than pennies ou could spend, both
> > in diameter and in thickness. Being copper rather than bronze, they
> > wore very quickly and it was quite rare to see one with really clear detail.
> >
> My hoard of old pennies contain some very worn ones, only the ones with
> clear inscriptions are worth anything. As I wrote, they are not really
> accessible to me any more, and householders around here are liable to
> look unkindly on strangers who want to search their cupboards.
>
> It's kinda nice to look at old pennies with Victoria in halfface on the
> back, and wonder what it was like when they were first issued.
>
> "But fumble in a greasy till And add the halfpence to the pence"
> --
> grey...@mail.com
> Ten, twenty million losses, tops

I received an 1888 American one cent piece in ordinary change the other day; it has a wreath on the tailside, on the head side is a Native American with a headdress . the question becomes how is it even possible that it wasn't grabbed out of circulation. the only thing I can think of is that a collector accidentally lost it back into general circulation.

I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed.
But 10, 20 million losses, tops

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Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote in
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>
> Blackjacks were a farthing each, or five for a penny.

Likewise fruit chews. Sold in fpubby, it was good ohfvarff for the dentist.

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 by: maus - Sun, 15 May 2022 21:09 UTC

On 2022-05-15, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 15-May-22 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
> [1] T'other lot of grandparents.
>
> Blackjacks were a farthing each, or five for a penny.
>

Farthing was real money, I remember them well.

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Ten, twenty million losses, tops

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 15 May 2022 22:09 UTC

In article <20220515134642.f487ebd251ef5985327b1db6@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Sun, 15 May 2022 at 13:46:42 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Sun, 15 May 2022 11:03:43 +0100
>"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> He bought (out of his pocket money) quite a collection of
>> copper coins (pennies I think). Often the junk shop owner would not
>> bother to count them, they were more trouble "than they are worth". They
>> were made of copper, great big things, something like 16 to the pound
>> (weight). He called them cartwheels.
>
> I am very sure I'm not the only one here who unforgets spending
>those pennies, you could get a lot of blackjacks for one. The threepence I
>used to get for a bus fare to the infants school (I was five) ohled a nice
>big bag of sweets if I walked to fpubby.
>
I doubt it, these were issued in the 1790's and weighed in at about 16
to the pound in weight. Initially minted by Matthew Boulton because a
shortage of silver small change coinage to pay his workers. They were
big, if memory serves me right, about 2 inches across and eighth to
quarter inch thick. They would wear a hole in your pocket, very quickly,
before you could spend it.

I remember sweets coming off ration, not really because I knew what
rationing was, but because we started to stop off at the sweet shop as
we walked back to school from the school dinners canteen. We got a
gobstopper or four aniseed balls for a farthing.

As a side note this was in February 1953. Sweet rationing had been
stopped in April 1949 but re-introduced four months later (Before I was
old enough to remember).
--
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: RustyHinge - Sun, 15 May 2022 22:31 UTC

On 15/05/2022 22:09, maus wrote:
> On 2022-05-15, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 15-May-22 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>
>> [1] T'other lot of grandparents.
>>
>> Blackjacks were a farthing each, or five for a penny.
>>
>
> Farthing was real money, I remember them well.

I have a small tin of farthings somewhere - by small, I mean Mitcham
Mints tin size, and the tin is about four fifths full.
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 by: Tone - Sun, 15 May 2022 22:37 UTC

On 15/05/2022 22:09, maus wrote:
> On 2022-05-15, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 15-May-22 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>
>> [1] T'other lot of grandparents.
>>
>> Blackjacks were a farthing each, or five for a penny.
>>
>
> Farthing was real money, I remember them well.
>
>

Ship Farthings were collected by the Congregational Missionary Society.

(There was a depiction of a sailing ship on the B side)

Tone

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 by: RustyHinge - Sun, 15 May 2022 22:45 UTC

On 15/05/2022 23:09, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:

> I remember sweets coming off ration, not really because I knew what
> rationing was, but because we started to stop off at the sweet shop as
> we walked back to school from the school dinners canteen. We got a
> gobstopper or four aniseed balls for a farthing.
>
> As a side note this was in February 1953. Sweet rationing had been
> stopped in April 1949 but re-introduced four months later (Before I was
> old enough to remember).

In 1950 or '51 I took my coupons into a rather snotty sweetshop in
Frinton, in which town I was at bawdy fpubby, and the proprietrix said:
"Are you a resident? If you're not, I can't serve you."

I thought: "oSd you, you snotty umman, I sha'nt darken *your* doors
again." I didn't. It wasn't so much the content of the 'greeting' as the
lip-curled tone of voice it was delivered in.

--
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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 15 May 2022 22:53 UTC

In article <t5rvbv$ed9$1@dont-email.me>, Tone <tone@email.com> on Sun,
15 May 2022 at 23:37:51 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 15/05/2022 22:09, maus wrote:
>> On 2022-05-15, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 15-May-22 13:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>
>>> [1] T'other lot of grandparents.
>>>
>>> Blackjacks were a farthing each, or five for a penny.
>>>
>>
>> Farthing was real money, I remember them well.
>>
>>
>
>Ship Farthings were collected by the Congregational Missionary Society.
>
>(There was a depiction of a sailing ship on the B side)
>
I thought that was ha'pennies, my farthings all have a Jenny Wren on the
reverse.
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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 15 May 2022 23:24 UTC

In article <t5rvpi$i1k$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Sun, 15 May 2022 at 23:45:06 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 15/05/2022 23:09, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>
>> I remember sweets coming off ration, not really because I knew what
>> rationing was, but because we started to stop off at the sweet shop as
>> we walked back to school from the school dinners canteen. We got a
>> gobstopper or four aniseed balls for a farthing.
>>
>> As a side note this was in February 1953. Sweet rationing had been
>> stopped in April 1949 but re-introduced four months later (Before I was
>> old enough to remember).
>
>In 1950 or '51 I took my coupons into a rather snotty sweetshop in
>Frinton, in which town I was at bawdy fpubby, and the proprietrix said:
>"Are you a resident? If you're not, I can't serve you."

I am not old enough to know the answer to this, but weren't coupons
supposed to be used in a named shop?

Nevertheless you were in Frinton, so what would you expect? A smile?
>
>I thought: "oSd you, you snotty umman, I sha'nt darken *your* doors
>again." I didn't. It wasn't so much the content of the 'greeting' as the
>lip-curled tone of voice it was delivered in.
>

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