So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.

I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
another term.

What say you?

In article <k8sYM.317411$pyw.142608@usenetxs.com>,
Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:

> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.

> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
> another term.

> What say you?

your first paragraph describes the current situation, not something "on the
way".

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"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 10:55:34 UTC+1, Radio Man wrote:
> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>
> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
> another term.
>
> What say you?
The thought of the onanists on labours team getting near the public purse strings fills me with dread

On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>
> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>
> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
> another term.
>
> What say you?

Doesn't matter who you vote for.
The government always gets in

I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.

--
“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established
authorities are wrong.”

― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV

On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>
> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way

If Kier is anything like Bliar was to Thatcher, he's more right wing
than Sunak.

On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>
> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>
> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
> another term.
>
> What say you?

Boris cooked the Conservative goose too well.

--
Colin Bignell

On 20 Oct 2023 at 13:01:53 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>> another term.
>>
>> What say you?
>
> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
> The government always gets in
>
> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.

What have you got against Plaid Cymru? They don't really have any discernable
policies - they're certainly not nationalists, though they're probably
generally in favour of Wales.

--
Roger Hayter

On 2023-10-20, Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>
> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>
> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
> another term.
>
> What say you?

BBB (Bring Back Boris). He was more fun.
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Death to the Influencers, hung, drawn and Quartered is more than they deserve.
Meantime, back at the Estancia, etc.

On 2023-10-20, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>> another term.
>>
>> What say you?
>
> Boris cooked the Conservative goose too well.
>

TheOnceAndFuturePM. He knew that covid was a con.

--
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Death to the Influencers, hung, drawn and Quartered is more than they deserve.
Meantime, back at the Estancia, etc.

On 20/10/2023 15:54, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>> another term.
>>
>> What say you?
>
> Boris cooked the Conservative goose too well.
>
Sunak has cooked it.

--
“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

― Leo Tolstoy

On 20/10/2023 15:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2023 at 13:01:53 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>>
>>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>>> another term.
>>>
>>> What say you?
>>
>> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>> The government always gets in
>>
>> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>
> What have you got against Plaid Cymru? They don't really have any discernable
> policies - they're certainly not nationalists, though they're probably
> generally in favour of Wales.
>
I am in general against hopeless ideologues.
--
“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

― Leo Tolstoy

On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 16:18:51 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 20/10/2023 15:54, Colin Bignell wrote:
> > On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
> >>
> >> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
> >> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
> >> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption,
> >> deep cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
> >>
> >> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move
> >> rapidly to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft
> >> Farage in as a special advisor, I think we might just be able to
> >> recapture the enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in
> >> the street and get another term.
> >>
> >> What say you?
> >
> > Boris cooked the Conservative goose too well.
> >
> Sunak has cooked it.
>

Too many cooks spoil the froth.

On 20 Oct 2023 at 16:19:36 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 20/10/2023 15:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
>> On 20 Oct 2023 at 13:01:53 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>>>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>>>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>>>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>>>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>>>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>>>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>>>> another term.
>>>>
>>>> What say you?
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>>> The government always gets in
>>>
>>> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>>> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>>
>> What have you got against Plaid Cymru? They don't really have any discernable
>> policies - they're certainly not nationalists, though they're probably
>> generally in favour of Wales.
>>
> I am in general against hopeless ideologues.

They may be hopeless, but I challenge you to define their ideology - they are
not particularly in favour of independence, for instance.

I vote for them as an alternative to spoiling the ballot paper.

--
Roger Hayter

On 20/10/2023 16:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 15:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
>> On 20 Oct 2023 at 13:01:53 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>>>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>>>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>>>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move
>>>> rapidly
>>>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>>>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>>>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>>>> another term.
>>>>
>>>> What say you?
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>>> The government always gets in
>>>
>>> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>>> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>>
>> What have you got against Plaid Cymru? They don't really have any
>> discernable
>> policies - they're certainly not nationalists, though they're probably
>> generally in favour of Wales.
>>
> I am in general against hopeless ideologues.

Like the so-called Reform Party then ?. (run by a LOndon
Property spiv).

On 20/10/2023 17:51, Roger Hayter wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2023 at 16:19:36 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/10/2023 15:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
>>> On 20 Oct 2023 at 13:01:53 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>>>>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>>>>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>>>>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>>>>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>>>>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>>>>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>>>>> another term.
>>>>>
>>>>> What say you?
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>>>> The government always gets in
>>>>
>>>> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>>>> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>>>
>>> What have you got against Plaid Cymru? They don't really have any discernable
>>> policies - they're certainly not nationalists, though they're probably
>>> generally in favour of Wales.
>>>
>> I am in general against hopeless ideologues.
>
> They may be hopeless, but I challenge you to define their ideology - they are
> not particularly in favour of independence, for instance.
>
> I vote for them as an alternative to spoiling the ballot paper.
>

Not when you live in East Anglia you don't.

On 20/10/2023 18:41, Andrew wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 16:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>>>
>> I am in general against hopeless ideologues.
>
> Like the so-called Reform Party then ?. (run by a LOndon
> Property spiv).
Well no, they are not ideologues. Just conservatives.
The key is whether or not people are selling big government or
'independence' as a solution to *moral* problems or whether they are
selling pragmatic solutions to real world problems.
Usually with as little government as is practical

--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

On 20 Oct 2023 at 18:43:03 BST, "Andrew" <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 20/10/2023 17:51, Roger Hayter wrote:
>> On 20 Oct 2023 at 16:19:36 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/10/2023 15:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
>>>> On 20 Oct 2023 at 13:01:53 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>>>>>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>>>>>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>>>>>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>>>>>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>>>>>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>>>>>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>>>>>> another term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>>>>> The government always gets in
>>>>>
>>>>> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>>>>> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>>>>
>>>> What have you got against Plaid Cymru? They don't really have any discernable
>>>> policies - they're certainly not nationalists, though they're probably
>>>> generally in favour of Wales.
>>>>
>>> I am in general against hopeless ideologues.
>>
>> They may be hopeless, but I challenge you to define their ideology - they are
>> not particularly in favour of independence, for instance.
>>
>> I vote for them as an alternative to spoiling the ballot paper.
>>
>
> Not when you live in East Anglia you don't.

But I never have and never will.

--
Roger Hayter

On 20/10/2023 18:43, Andrew wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 17:51, Roger Hayter wrote:
>> On 20 Oct 2023 at 16:19:36 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/10/2023 15:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
>>>> On 20 Oct 2023 at 13:01:53 BST, "The Natural Philosopher"
>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>>>>>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>>>>>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>>>>>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move
>>>>>> rapidly
>>>>>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>>>>>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>>>>>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>>>>>> another term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>>>>> The government always gets in
>>>>>
>>>>> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>>>>> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>>>>
>>>> What have you got against Plaid Cymru? They don't really have any
>>>> discernable
>>>> policies - they're certainly not nationalists, though they're probably
>>>> generally in favour of Wales.
>>>>
>>> I am in general against hopeless ideologues.
>>
>> They may be hopeless, but I challenge you to define their ideology -
>> they are
>> not particularly in favour of independence, for instance.
>>
>> I vote for them as an alternative to spoiling the ballot paper.
>>
>
> Not when you live in East Anglia you don't.

Exactly. I live in Matthew Hancock's seat. Last election there were
three names on the ballot paper I think, maybe 4. I couldn't bring
myself to vote for *any* of them.
In the bye elections today, the truth is that *less* people voted for
Labour, and even massively less people bothered to vote for Tory.
In short the voting public has had enough of all of them.

The real problem is that there is no one worth voting for at all.

--
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your
oppressors."
- George Orwell

On 20 Oct 2023 16:51:04 GMT
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

> I vote for them as an alternative to spoiling the ballot paper.

That's all it's for these days.

--

Brian Morrison

"I am not young enough to know everything"
Oscar Wilde

charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> In article <k8sYM.317411$pyw.142608@usenetxs.com>,
> Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>
>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>
>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>> another term.
>
>> What say you?
>
> your first paragraph describes the current situation, not something "on the
> way".
>

This…

Tim

--
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On 20 Oct 2023 at 20:43:50 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On 20 Oct 2023 16:51:04 GMT
> Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
>
>> I vote for them as an alternative to spoiling the ballot paper.
>
> That's all it's for these days.

I'm not convinced it's ever been different in my lifetime.

--
Roger Hayter

On 20/10/2023 13:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>
> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
> The government always gets in
>
> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>
Looks like it may have to be the Monster Raving Loony Party then!
--
Cheers,
Roger

On 20/10/2023 16:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 15:54, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 20/10/2023 10:55, Radio Man wrote:
>>>
>>> So it looks like a leftcunt government is on the way, with all the
>>> problems that inevitably come with it: strikes, public transport in
>>> chaos, NHS in chaos, education in chaos, high taxes, corruption, deep
>>> cuts in council budgets, etc, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> I think that the only chance we have to stay in power is to move rapidly
>>> to the right. If we put Braverman in charge and draft Farage in as a
>>> special advisor, I think we might just be able to recapture the
>>> enthusiasm and imagination of the loony old man in the street and get
>>> another term.
>>>
>>> What say you?
>>
>> Boris cooked the Conservative goose too well.
>>
> Sunak has cooked it.
>

Labour took the lead in the opinion polls at the start of 2022, when
Boris was still firmly in power.

--
Colin Bignell

On 20/10/2023 22:31, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 13:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>>
>> Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>> The government always gets in
>>
>> I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>> SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>>
> Looks like it may have to be the Monster Raving Loony Party then!

So you are going to vote Conservative?

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On 20/10/2023 in message <kpgc3aF4t6cU2@mid.individual.net> alan_m wrote:

>On 20/10/2023 22:31, Roger Mills wrote:
>>On 20/10/2023 13:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Doesn't matter who you vote for.
>>>The government always gets in
>>>
>>>I will vote for any candidate that is not LibLabCon. Except Green. And
>>>SNP. And Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru.
>>>
>>Looks like it may have to be the Monster Raving Loony Party then!
>
>So you are going to vote Conservative?

That's worth a :-)

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You know it's cold outside when you go outside and it's cold.