They're growing on a west-facing wall. The soil is rather sandy. There's
a lot of wretched ivy growing up the wall, which will have to go, but I
have not done anything to it yet. The plants were started in pots, but
put out in good time.

https://i.ibb.co/jhmmfzY/IMG-20210619-125631.jpg ("High Hopes", all snaky)

https://i.ibb.co/4p6YgQh/IMG-20210619-125641.jpg (Valentine, droopy with
puckered leaves)
https://i.ibb.co/vJrLQGP/IMG-20210619-125647.jpg (as above)

The middle ones are "Earth Walker", which seem to be doing the best of
the lot, but some have required staking.

I see some small black wingless insects on some. Aphids.

On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 14:05:56 +0100, Chris Bacon
<chris.p.bacon@maildrop.cc> wrote:

>They're growing on a west-facing wall. The soil is rather sandy. There's
>a lot of wretched ivy growing up the wall, which will have to go, but I
>have not done anything to it yet. The plants were started in pots, but
>put out in good time.
>
>https://i.ibb.co/jhmmfzY/IMG-20210619-125631.jpg ("High Hopes", all snaky)
>
>https://i.ibb.co/4p6YgQh/IMG-20210619-125641.jpg (Valentine, droopy with
>puckered leaves)
>https://i.ibb.co/vJrLQGP/IMG-20210619-125647.jpg (as above)
>
>The middle ones are "Earth Walker", which seem to be doing the best of
>the lot, but some have required staking.
>
>I see some small black wingless insects on some. Aphids.

I would say they are just dry at the roots. I'm growing some datura
sanguinea in pots (OK so it's brugmansia these days) from seed, plants
about 12" tall now, and they will readily droop their leaves or bend
right over, even though the soil in the pots is quite wet. I have to
keep them very well watered, almost standing in water, to stop it
happening.

--
Chris

Gardening in West Cornwall, very mild, sheltered
from the West, but open to the North and East.

On 19/06/2021 14:49, Chris Hogg wrote:
> I would say they are just dry at the roots. I'm growing some datura
> sanguinea in pots (OK so it's brugmansia these days) from seed, plants
> about 12" tall now, and they will readily droop their leaves or bend
> right over, even though the soil in the pots is quite wet. I have to
> keep them very well watered, almost standing in water, to stop it
> happening.

I think you might be right. They're better now we've had (more!) rain.
Thirsty things.