"dolf" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Mr2dneq8Gq34s4j_nZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> So why are you wasting time posting, instead of taking your gun and going
>> to
>> the front lines?
>>
>> hypocrite
>>
>>
>>
>
> — MR. RAYMOND'S BISCUIT —

Evasion noted. Seems you think your rules should only apply to others.

"dolf" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Q-KdnT4MaPVjrov_nZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com...
> SEE BELOW FOR THIS CONVERSATION ANALOGIES TO APPLE STORE HOSTAGE SITUATION
>
> <http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Schadenfreude.pdf>
>
> Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dolf" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Mr2dneq8Gq34s4j_nZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So why are you wasting time posting, instead of taking your gun and
>>>> going
>>>> to
>>>> the front lines?
>>>>
>>>> hypocrite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> — MR. RAYMOND'S BISCUIT —
>>
>> Evasion noted. Seems you think your rules should only apply to others.
>>
>>
>>
>
> SCOUT <ME4GUNS@VERIZON.NET> @ 2333 HOURS ON 22 FEBRUARY 2022: "So why are
> you wasting time posting, instead of taking your gun and going to the
> front
> lines?
>
> Hypocrite."
>
> -- 👽👽 DON'T MIND US 👽👽 --

And you're still not answering the question.

Could it be because you're a gutless blowhard?

> YOUTUBE: "The Warriors 'Come out to play'"
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UEmYGp5VxY>

WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE EVENTS ARE CONNECTED BUT THAT THEIR
MEMETIC (ie. describes how an idea can propagate successfully, but
doesn't necessarily imply a concept is factual) CHARACTER OCCURS WITHIN
OUR NOUMENON / TEMPORAL MAPPING.

SCOUT <ME4GUNS@VERIZON.NET> @ 2326 HOURS ON 23 FEBRUARY 2022: "Evasion
noted. Seems you think your rules should only apply to others."

DOLF @ 0017 HOURS ON 24 FEBRUARY 2022: "See above for this conversation
analogies to the AMSTERDAM APPLE STORE hostage situation — which you
fail to acknowledge.

The answer to your question is that I took action against white
SUPREMACISTS and their violent dialogue in case it was supporting and
backwash narrative… which you can see here."

SCOUT <ME4GUNS@VERIZON.NET> @ 0120 HOURS ON 24 FEBRUARY 2022: "And
you're still not answering the question.

Could it be because you're a gutless blowhard?"

DOLF @ 0529 HOURS ON 24 FEBRUARY 2022: "We had published such action
within the NL.POLITIEK newsgroup before the event so your conduct and
that of DIZUM.COM (Amsterdam) anonymous reposting by other internet
militia accomplished nothing…"

Or whether the later is connected to the earlier NASHVILLE domestic
terrorism event, we are not at liberty to say except to repeat that said
Irish (Italian fascist loving) internet militia agent no longer posts.

dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
> SEE BELOW FOR THIS CONVERSATION ANALOGIES TO APPLE STORE HOSTAGE SITUATION
> — WHICH YOU FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE
>
> The answer to your question is that I took action against white
> SUPREMACISTS and their violent dialogue… which you can see here
>
> <http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Schadenfreude.pdf>
>
> YOUTUBE: "The Warriors 'Come out to play'"
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UEmYGp5VxY>
>
>
>>> SCOUT <ME4GUNS@VERIZON.NET> @ 2333 HOURS ON 22 FEBRUARY 2022: "So why are
>>> you wasting time posting, instead of taking your gun and going to the
>>> front
>>> lines?
>>>
>>> Hypocrite."
>>>
>>> -- 👽👽 DON'T MIND US 👽👽 --
>>
>> And you're still not answering the question.
>>
>> Could it be because you're a gutless blowhard?
>>
>>
>>
>
> SCOUT <ME4GUNS@VERIZON.NET> @ 2333 HOURS ON 22 FEBRUARY 2022: "So why are
> you wasting time posting, instead of taking your gun and going to the front
> lines?
>
> Hypocrite."
>
> -- 👽👽 DON'T MIND US 👽👽 --
>
> "WATCHERS WE ARE,
> DO NOT DARE.
> THOUGH IT BE FAR.
> WE'RE STILL THERE.
>
> THE MORE YOU SAY.
> WE'LL GET TO KNOW.
> COME WHAT MAY.
> IT WILL BE SO."
>
> MIGHTY WANNABE @ 1653 HOURS ON 22 FEBRUARY 2022: "Ballistic missiles are so
> passé, Klausie. You'd better wake the f@ck up and open your eyes, wide.
> This *SHIT* can make your head spin.
>
> KLAUS SCHADENFREUDE @ 2257 HOURS ON 22 FEBRUARY 2022: "We'll cover China
> with passé."
>
> Within our Australian newsgroup just to express their banal opinions and
> threats: "they'd better shut the f@ck up" and "their suicide vest strapped
> to their torso" excepting to support the cause of their Canadian brethren.
>
> -- HEY GIBLET --
>
> "DANG YOU SH@THOLE
> A CAPED CRUSADER.
> MEATHEAD PARASOL.
> MY SPACE INVADER.
>
> HYENAS EACH ONE.
> ON A PICNIC TREAT.
> CONGREGATING FUN.
> GROWLING CONCEIT.
>
> YOU’RE NO TROJAN.
> JUST TURKEY ARSE.
> A FORAGING BOGAN.
> FEVERISH FOR FARCE."
>
> Perhaps going some place on the internet to speak of their intention to
> commit atrocities (ie. a highly unpleasant or distasteful object; an
> extremely wicked or cruel act, typically one involving physical violence or
> injury) in veiled terms makes the action more acceptable.
>
> RICHARD LAWLER (THE VERGE) @ 2310 HOURS ON 22 FEBRUARY 2022: "APPLE STORE
> HOSTAGE SITUATION ENDS AFTER HOSTAGE ESCAPES, AND POLICE HIT THE SUSPECT
> WITH A CAR:
>
> As reported by Bloomberg, a scary situation played out today at Apple’s
> flagship Amsterdam store as a man in *CAMOUFLAGE* *GEAR* *AND* *A*
> *BALACLAVA* *FIRED* *A* *GUN* and then held someone hostage there for
> several hours before being apprehended. The hostage was reportedly an Apple
> Store customer from somewhere outside the Netherlands.
>
> A standoff with police lasted from about 1730 HOURS (AEST: 0330 HOURS ON 23
> FEBRUARY 2022) local time until 2245 HOURS (AEST: 0845 HOURS ON 23 FEBRUARY
> 2022), when the hostage ran out of the store, with the suspect close
> behind. As reported by AT5 Echt Amsterdams Nieuws and confirmed in tweets
> from the police, police on the scene hit the running suspect with an
> armored BMW X5. As the suspect lay motionless on the ground, police sent
> over a robot to check them for explosives, confirming none were present.
>
> It’s unclear what prompted the incident, but according to the details from
> the police, the suspect is a 27-year-old who sent selfies and other photos
> to AT5 during the incident that appeared to show him *WEARING* *A* *BOMB*
> *VEST*. Amsterdam newspaper Het Parool reported many details released
> during a press conference afterward, as police said the hostage-taker
> requested water which was brought into to the store by a robot. The hostage
> took that opportunity to run for safety."
> <https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2022/2/22/22946459/apple-store-netherlands-hostage-amsterdam-crypto>
>
> WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE EVENTS ARE CONNECTED BUT THAT THEIR MEMETIC
> (ie. describes how an idea can propagate successfully, but doesn't
> necessarily imply a concept is factual) CHARACTER OCCURS WITHIN OUR
> NOUMENON / TEMPORAL MAPPING.
>
> Or whether the later is connected to the earlier domestic terrorism event,
> we are not at liberty to say except to repeat that said Irish (Italian
> fascist loving) internet militia agent no longer posts.
>
>
>

--

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prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[S | T]
as EXISTENCE / *OUSIA*.
<http://www.grapple369.com/Grumble.zip> (Download resources)
--
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T] as EXISTENCE / *OUSIA*.

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*Congress Wants To Pay For Anti-China Propaganda & Corporate Polluters
Destroy New Hampshire Town*
/The Ring of Fire/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6RDXko4tOc&ab_channel=TheRingofFire>

"Via America’s Lawyer: Congress proposes spending $500 million on anti-
China news coverage. Also, Residents of Merrimack, NH report sky-high
cancer rates after being exposed to PFAS toxins produced by the
neighboring Saint-Gobain manufacturing plant. Mike Papantonio & Farron
Cousins discuss more."

Note:
*The following transcript was generated by a third-party transcription
software company, so please excuse any typos.*

"The United States wants to turn the country of China into an enemy of
the world and they're about to start a massive propaganda campaign to
make it happen, just like they did with Russia. Farron Cousins from trial
lawyer magazine joins me now to talk about what's happening. You know, I,
I went to journalism school, back then we didn't have, in J school they
had nothing called propaganda. How do we deliver propaganda? But now you,
you know, you wonder these propaganda stories are popping up all over the
place. This is one of 'em isn't it?
Yeah, it absolutely is. And now we have the federal government, again, as
a piece of this regular commerce legislation they're talking about here,
the COMPETES Act is what it's called. There's a little carve out for $500
million to have propaganda created to put out around China, I guess, or
the countries around China, just so everybody can realize that we don't
like China and we need to be better than them.
Yeah, let's analyze it just a second. Okay. Chamber of Commerce and Bill
Clinton brings us NAFTA, CAFTA. They tried to bring us TPP, had Hillary
been elected we would've had TPP. All of those things stand for one
proposition, ship jobs out of the United States to China and to India so
corporations can make a lot of money and then take that money and put it
in an offshore bank and then negotiate with the United States to get the
money back into the country, rather than paying regular rates, they pay 5
or 6%. That's where this started. It started with Bill Clinton,
globalization, and you know what, the end of the story is it made China
very powerful. And now we're trying to take that away from 'em, right?
Right. We, we shipped our manufacturing overseas. We, we did all kinds of
things. You know, a lot of the tech products that we use today still made
overseas in China. And at the same time that the corporations are
benefiting from this, the government is telling us, oh no, we have to
hate them because they're outpacing us on all of these things and they
leave out that part that, oh, by the way, we created this situation. We
allowed them to do this. We allow them to do it today. So rather than
spend $500 million to invest in the United States, we're just gonna pay
$500 million to reporters with no scruples to write anti-China propaganda.
Yeah. I mean, these, they're, they, they're not reporters, they're hacks.
Yeah.
Go hire a hack that was cut out of, used to be with the Gannett. Now the
Gannett's cutting all their reporters. Go hire the hack to write, to
write propaganda. We saw it happen with Iraq, didn't we?
Yeah.
And because of Iraq, hundreds of thousands of people were killed. Judith
Miller, where is that little cretin anyway? I, I don't, I really don't
know. So Judith Miller with the New York Times is asked by the spook
industry, would you carry this story on weapons of mass destruction? The
propaganda begins. It flips over to MSNBC. MSNBC and CNN pick up the
propaganda. How is it different at all from the propaganda that comes
outta Russia or the propaganda that comes outta China or the propaganda
that comes out of any, any country on this globe? How's it different?
It, it really isn't and that's what drives me crazy about this story is
everybody wants to talk about all of the anti-American propaganda from
these other countries. And, you know, North Korea is a big one. They
always talk about China and, and Russia. But here we are with half a
billion dollars that we are now going to spend, not just, by the way,
overseas. Part of this goes back to spending it in the United States to
turn us against China."
~~

Political propaganda quite unlike due public disclosure of relevant
information by governments and politically active organisations serves
only one purpose: Brainwashing the gullible amongst us, thereby defeating
democracy in a very underhanded way.

--
Ördög
*LIBERTÉ*
*EGALITÉ*
*FRATERNITÉ*
*SOLIDARITÉ*

*U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
/Rebel HQ/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>

"Libertarian YouTuber, Tim Pool wants to give everyday Americans nuclear
weapons and anthrax. Jordan Uhl breaks it down on Rebel HQ."
~~

Just imagine the ultimate pleasure you could have by taking out your
neighbour whose ugly visage you can't stand to look at in a glorious
nuclear inferno. ... YAY!

Yes, creeps from the far-right (sadly non only in the US) throw around
phrases like "Nuke China", "Nuke Russia", "Nuke Cuba", "Nuke all
Muslims", "Nuke anyone for any reason" without ever understanding/
comprehending the consequences of such a horrid action.

Yes, there is a huge reality gap between conservative capitalist
libertarians, alt-right loons plus related ilk versus rational human
beings.

--
Ördög
*LIBERTÉ*
*EGALITÉ*
*FRATERNITÉ*
*SOLIDARITÉ*

*Survivors Of Portland’s Right-Wing Attack Victimized By Killer AND
Police*
/The Majority Report with Sam Seder/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=cpw9JvWSBRk&ab_channel=TheMajorityReportw%2FSamSeder>

"The Majority Report crew discuss the far Right-wing attack in Portland
which included a deadly shooting at Normandale Park."

~~

No need to guild the lilies...the (dis)United States(and people) of (that
never been great)America is infested through and through with raging
socio- and psychopathic fascists.
Although the US far-right gun lobby would make you believe that their
guns are only there for hunting and target shooting purposes the ugly
truth is, its members are secretly or not so secretly dreaming of
murdering real and imaginary political opponents.
The never ending body counts seem to be the proof of that pudding.

US fascist foot-soldiers: "We have as many guns as they have genders..."

--
Ördög
*LIBERTÉ*
*EGALITÉ*
*FRATERNITÉ*
*SOLIDARITÉ*

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 05:32:25 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 23:18:52 -0000 (UTC), *Ördög*
> <Belphegor@666.Hell.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
>> /Rebel HQ/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>
>>
>> "Libertarian YouTuber, Tim Pool wants to give everyday Americans nuclear
>> weapons and anthrax. Jordan Uhl breaks it down on Rebel HQ."
>
> Sorry, but this guy is hardly a libertarian, more of a Marxist
> type. He goes everywhere and says whatever he believes will get him
> attention. Like Trump and Biden he IMO is an idiot
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pool
>
> "Pool, was born in Chicago, Illinois, and grew up in a lower middle
> class family. He attended a Catholic school until completing the fifth
> grade and left school at the age of 14."
>
> Then again I'd never heard of him before so isn't popular surprised a
> Marxist Australian knows of him.

He is actually a marxist hungarian.

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> *Ördög* <Belphegor@666.Hell.invalid.com> wrote

>>>> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
>>>> /Rebel HQ/
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>
>>>>
>>>> "Libertarian YouTuber, Tim Pool wants to give everyday Americans
>>>> nuclear
>>>> weapons and anthrax. Jordan Uhl breaks it down on Rebel HQ."
>>>
>>> Sorry, but this guy is hardly a libertarian, more of a Marxist
>>> type. He goes everywhere and says whatever he believes will get him
>>> attention. Like Trump and Biden he IMO is an idiot
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pool
>>>
>>> "Pool, was born in Chicago, Illinois, and grew up in a lower middle
>>> class family. He attended a Catholic school until completing the fifth
>>> grade and left school at the age of 14."
>>>
>>> Then again I'd never heard of him before so isn't popular surprised a
>>> Marxist Australian knows of him.

>> He is actually a marxist hungarian.

> Then why is he always bitching about me posting here?

His parents dragged him here.

Petz's wanker-fest:

/ This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
poster inputs /

> Ördög
>>
>> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
>> /Rebel HQ/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>
>>
> He is a Hungarian ...

I hate to interrupt your idiotic alt-right circle jerk with you favourite
Usenet creeps, both from OZ and septic Yankland but I still need to point
out the glaring mental short circuit you put on display:

I am legally as Australian as you are, Petz dear, like it or not!
This country was and still is built on colonisation and immigration
(sadly with the lots of ongoing brutalisation of the natives).

Yes. I have never made a secret out of my Hungarian origin, but I
definitely regard OZ as my home.
BTW as a communist I am to my core very cosmopolitan and don't believe in
borders, so my home is there where my family and friends are.

> ...armchair...

Yes, I do understand that my armchair is a lot more comfortable than your
Shitboxville park-bench, which you call home, specially in all this rain.
So sour grapes, your "armchair" envy is well understood and duly noted!

> ... Marxist Communist ...

Is there any other kind? Really?

> who don't ever like those who talk sense.

How would you know? Have you ever tried it?
Has any rational/sane newsgroup member ever seen you talking any *sense*?
I've been in this newsgroup since the early 2000s but I am yet to find
anything sensible ever posted by you or your hard-right/alt-right/
conservative_capitalist_libertarian/conspiracy_loon wanker-mates.

~~~
~~~
Busting Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord.

oh, you mean your non-existent, invisible sky fairy???

> Eighteen eighty three Karl Marx made his most important contribution to
mankind..

Nope.
Wrong date.

"In late February 1848, the Manifesto was anonymously published by the
Workers' Educational Association (Kommunistischer Arbeiterbildungsverein)
at Bishopsgate in the City of London. Written in German, the 23-page
pamphlet was titled Manifest der kommunistischen Partei and had a dark-
green cover. It was reprinted three times and serialised in the Deutsche
Londoner Zeitung, a newspaper for German émigrés. On 4 March, one day
after the serialisation in the Zeitung began, Marx was expelled by
Belgian police. Two weeks later, around 20 March, a thousand copies of
the Manifesto reached Paris, and from there to Germany in early April. In
April–May the text was corrected for printing and punctuation mistakes;
Marx and Engels would use this 30-page version as the basis for future
editions of the Manifesto."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto>

Of course the Manifesto is just a tiny except of Marx's equally important
econopolitical analytical works on capitalism stretching over decades.

> He died
Yes, people tend to die, it's kind of an unavoidable fact of life.
However great people leave behind their legacy works which keep on
surviving depending on the values they represent for society.

What will be your legacy Petz dear? Alt-right hate and paranoia?
Discarded empty goon bags?

> They just weren't doing Communism properly,
> Say all of today's Communists?

Would you disagree? On what grounds?
Care to cite which section in Marx's Communist Manifesto or even the
policy platform of Lenin calls for the establishment of an authoritarian
state capitalist personal cult terror state resulting in irresponsible
economical mismanagement and total annihilation of grassroots democracy?
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCv04f0RXfc >

> The problem with socialism is that you
> eventually run out of other people's money

Typical hard-right lie-bertarian propaganda slogan.
No one is spending "other people's money", so I can only conclude the
person saying this doesn't understand socialism. "Means of production,
distribution, and exchange" is the key phrase here. That doesn't mean
everyone's wealth is redistributed, Robin Hood style - it means that the
factories and corporations that provide goods and services to society are
publicly owned and regulated. This isn't too dissimilar from a public
stock exchange.
So I suppose if one's understanding of socialism is to spend other
people's money, then I suppose they're just doing it wrong.

> but Ordogs totalitarian governments

I might be the newsgroup devil, but I am certainly not so almighty as to
own any government, totalitarian or not. LOL!

> There is no difference between communism and socialism, ...

Shows how little you know about economics, politics and political
ideologies. So what the fuck are you actually doing in a political
newsgroup?

> ... except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
> communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote.
>

Properly educated people know that communism (the ideology, and not its
USSR implementation) propose a stateless, money less and classless
society. So w/o a slaver there can be no enslavement.

Anyhow, Petz as usual regurgitates a totally uninformed far-right
B U L L S H I T mantra!
To a rational person I'd try to explain why what you posted was utter
rubbish, but in your case what'd be the point wasting my time and energy.

OK, OK, for sane readers (only) I still provide a couple of links:

<https://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism>

<https://byjus.com/free-ias-prep/difference-between-communism-capitalism-
and-socialism/>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyl2DeKT-Vs>

>
> It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
>

More B U L L S H I T accusations of the alt-right kind!

However what certain is:
The society you actually idolise and so badly wish for Petz dear is a
dystopian fascist theocratic nightmare, which offers nobody beyond a tiny
minority at the top of the food-chain any freedom, personal integrity,
hope and happiness.

< https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/
The_Handmaid%E2%80%99s_Tale_%E2%80%93_Der_Report_der_Magd>
~~

--
Ördög - 👹️ - your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark.......
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends like
Matt B. the brain dead alt-right Bouncer Boi..

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

*Ördög* wrote:
> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
> /Rebel HQ/

Overlooking the point that it costs US $31 million to produce a critical
mass of plutonium. Plus all the other hardware to make a bomb, it is
well beyond the reach of Joe Sixpack.

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 8:58:03 AM UTC+11, Ördög, the real Devil wrote:
> Petz's wanker-fest:
>
> / This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
> poster inputs /
>
> > Ördög
>
https://ibb.co/ZdrQr6V
Ukraine is a very corrupt country. The party currently holding power, imprisoned all other party leaders.
Sounds like Communist Joe Biden's regime!
All Americans have from Communist Joe Biden is world war 3 and a crack pipe!
Amazing when you consider the Main Stream Media were screaming that
Trump was going to start WWIII for 4 years.
>
Joe Biden coward of kabul' Best Thing That Ever Happened to Putin'
"If Biden gets in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of which
you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country at all."
- President Donald J. Trump July 19, 2020
>
--
Petzl
Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,
Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> "If Biden gets in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of
> which
> you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country at all."
> - President Donald J. Trump July 19, 2020

Only a fool would buy that mindless bullshit.

Petz

> Ukraine is a very corrupt country.

Very likely so BUT!.
Totally irrelevant point under the subject heading.
Your whataboutism knows no bounds, obviously you ain't cap[able of
concentrating on any subject more than a few seconds beyond the limits of
your favourite hate rants.

> Sounds like Communist Joe Biden's regime!

So completely corporate capitalist Biden and his pro-capitalist
establishment government is now suddenly turned communist? YAWN!
GoonCon 3 again, Petz dear?

You have fucking NO clue what communism is, that is for sure.
Thx for the demo.

/snip some crap/
>
> Main Stream Media were screaming that
> Trump was going to start WWIII for 4 years.

Give that orange moron another chance and we might end up there!

/remove all the rest of this idiot rant/

~~~
~~~
More idiot sig busting:

> Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
> the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,
> Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Nice, but where have you plagiarised this beauty from?

So:
Lets go slowly (not to overtax your few remaining brain cells'
facts computing capacities:

Firstly you have lifted that quote attributed the Churchill from a
Facebook post.
Here is the discussion about its authenticity:
<https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-winston-churchill-say-socialism-is-
the-philosophy-of-failure/>

Now lets look at its content:

Starting with "socialism is ...".
Which version of socialism does this referring to.
Only hard capitalist wankers and rusted on monarchists like Churchill
would treat the econopolitical philosophy of socialism as some sort of
monolith.
In fact, if one is willing to look more close the New Testament itself is
intertwined with the concepts socialism.

Next to: "failure". Do you consider countries like Sweden, Norway,
Finland or Germany a failure. These countries have implemented social
democratic policies over the years with great success. While at the same
time wild capitalist shit holes like the UK and US only succeeded
creating a horribly divided society with millions and millions living
under or near the absolute poverty line while their tiny billionaire
class is taking joyrides into suborbital space as the only remaining
means to burn some extra cash they can't possible dispose of in any
useful manner.

That takes us to "creed of ignorance": Apparently so far only socialists
are the ones who are loudly refusing to ignore the social toll such
damning capitalist inequity takes on the social fabric of such countries
where lives are ruined and destroyed by poor healthcare, by lack of even
the most basic requirements for living a modest lifestyle, by total
hopelessness and inability to break the cycles of poverty generation
after generation.

Yes...that gospel of envy. Why aren't these subhuman scumbags feel happy
to see the top 10% of society own roughly 80% of everything while
dominating every aspects of political and cultural life on the planet.
How dare they suggest that instead of creating more/even wealthier
billionaires we could create better public transport, better healthcare,
better and cheaper education for all, better public infrastructure and
amenities, better and more jobs not just for a select few!
Really! What a horrid *envy*!

Yep...in truth the bottom half of society everywhere on the planet
already sharing "equal misery", and that has nothing to do with socialism.
Another 40% manages to make ends meat so they keep their mouths shut
hoping for escaping from joining the bottom half. In the meanwhile the
top ten percent live in the their alternate reality exclusive private
heavens caring fuck all about everyone else below them on the food chain.

I recon socialism in most of its version could NOT possible create
something more bizarre.
~~

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- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ crazies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
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Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny, Kosmo, West of sanity,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends like
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- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

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Sarah Palin wrote:

> *Ördög
>> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
>> /Rebel HQ/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>
>> "Libertarian YouTuber, Tim Pool wants to give everyday Americans
>> nuclear weapons and anthrax. Jordan Uhl breaks it down on Rebel HQ."
>
> Overlooking the point that it costs US $31 million to produce a critical
> mass of plutonium. Plus all the other hardware to make a bomb, it is
> well beyond the reach of Joe Sixpack.

So you commented before or instead of watching the linked video!@
That fact was pointed out and discussed quite well already.
Capitalist conservative libertarianism hands over all wealth and
power to the already powerful wealthy corporations and billionaires.
The rest of us little people are all screwed.

--
Ördög - 👹️ - the one and only newsgroup Devil.

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:05:59 PM UTC+11, Ördög, the real Devil wrote:
> Petz
> > Ukraine is a very corrupt country.
> Very likely so BUT!.

> I recon socialism in most of its version could NOT possible create
> something more bizarre.
>
Democrat's moto; Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor..
--
Petzl
There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> "If Biden gets in you're going to end up with a depressionthe likes
>>> of which you've never seen. You'll be lucky Ifyou end up with a
>>> country at all."
>>> - President Donald J. Trump July 19, 2020

>> Only a fool would buy that mindless bullshit.

<reams of shit irrelevant to that stupid claim of Trump's flushed where it
belongs>

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> *Ördög* <Belphegor@666.Hell.invalid.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
>>>>>> /Rebel HQ/
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Libertarian YouTuber, Tim Pool wants to give everyday Americans
>>>>>> nuclear
>>>>>> weapons and anthrax. Jordan Uhl breaks it down on Rebel HQ."
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but this guy is hardly a libertarian, more of a Marxist
>>>>> type. He goes everywhere and says whatever he believes will get him
>>>>> attention. Like Trump and Biden he IMO is an idiot
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pool
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pool, was born in Chicago, Illinois, and grew up in a lower middle
>>>>> class family. He attended a Catholic school until completing the
>>>>> fifth
>>>>> grade and left school at the age of 14."
>>>>>
>>>>> Then again I'd never heard of him before so isn't popular surprised a
>>>>> Marxist Australian knows of him.
>>
>>>> He is actually a marxist hungarian.
>>
>>> Then why is he always bitching about me posting here?
>>
>> His parents dragged him here.
>
> Is he a illegal?

Dunno. He did say his parents moved here but didnt say if they are legal
or not.

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> *Ördög* <Belphegor@666.Hell.invalid.com> wrote

>>>>>> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
>>>>>> /Rebel HQ/
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Libertarian YouTuber, Tim Pool wants to give everyday Americans
>>>>>> nuclear
>>>>>> weapons and anthrax. Jordan Uhl breaks it down on Rebel HQ."
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but this guy is hardly a libertarian, more of a Marxist
>>>>> type. He goes everywhere and says whatever he believes will get him
>>>>> attention. Like Trump and Biden he IMO is an idiot
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pool
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pool, was born in Chicago, Illinois, and grew up in a lower middle
>>>>> class family. He attended a Catholic school until completing the
>>>>> fifth
>>>>> grade and left school at the age of 14."
>>>>>
>>>>> Then again I'd never heard of him before so isn't popular surprised a
>>>>> Marxist Australian knows of him.
>>
>>>> He is actually a marxist hungarian.
>>
>>> Then why is he always bitching about me posting here?
>>
>> His parents dragged him here.
>
> He must love what Putin is doing.

No he doesn't. From memtory that's why his parents left,
they had enough of a clue to have realised that we do
things much better than Hungary did with the Kremlin
doing what they are now doing to the Ukraine to Hungary.

Petz

> Democrat's moto; Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor..

A perversion that has bugger all to do with "socialism", rather it has
its roots in post USSR neo-liberal and semi-libertarian capitalism, where
the government essentially has have zero powers, so the country is
virtually run by the ultra rich and their corporations sucking like
vampires all wealth out of society.

BTW the very same goes for most GOP politicians, except even more openly
so than done by the pro corporate status-quo Democrats.

~~~
~~~
RE: Retarded and know-nothing hate propaganda sig:

> There is no difference between communism and socialism, ...

Shows how little you know about economics, politics and political
ideologies. So what the fuck are you actually doing in a political
newsgroup?

> ... except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
> communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote.
>

Properly educated people know that communism (the ideology, and not its
USSR implementation) propose a stateless, money less and classless
society. So w/o a slaver there can be no enslavement.

Anyhow, Petz as usual regurgitates a totally uninformed far-right
B U L L S H I T mantra!
To a rational person I'd try to explain why what you posted was utter
rubbish, but in your case what'd be the point wasting my time and energy.

OK, OK, for sane readers (only) I still provide a couple of links:

<https://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism>

<https://byjus.com/free-ias-prep/difference-between-communism-capitalism-
and-socialism/>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyl2DeKT-Vs>

>
> It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
>

More B U L L S H I T accusations of the alt-right kind!

However what certain is:
The society you actually idolise and so badly wish for Petz dear is a
dystopian fascist theocratic nightmare, which offers nobody beyond a tiny
minority at the top of the food-chain any freedom, personal integrity,
hope and happiness.

< https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/
The_Handmaid%E2%80%99s_Tale_%E2%80%93_Der_Report_der_Magd>
~~

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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz, Felix, Lion's Farts Foster, Rod Speed,
Jeeebus and co ...

- LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets like that gutter trash quality scumbag
nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris, Henry Briggs,
Louie braindeath, James somethin' plus all stolen nyms,
etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

Petz

/ This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
poster inputs /
/ snip more wanker crap manually /

> Ordog claims his parents separated and he came to Australia with his
> father

Your memory is completely shot, Petz dear. Better lay off that booze ASAP
or you might even forget how to turn on you computer (wouldn't that be a
huge blessing for Usenet? 🤪️)

More than once I have explained to you already that my father had never
left Hungary. I came here with my mother joining up with her family
members already residing here. BTW my stepfather was an Australian
citizen, so there you go.
As far as any further details go on this subject I am certainly not going
to disclose any of it here in Usenet, specially because you and your alt-
right mates here are dangerous fanatics who would use any possible info
to try to harm political opponent out there in the real world as
underhanded and disgusting as that really is. Put it this way, your track
record is less than squeaky clean. I can safely assume you favourite
cohort is just as bad.

~~~~
~~~~
Xtian fundy's idot sig busting:

" What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply coincidence?

The current state and the evolution of the Universe, planet Earth
included, are simply the results of quantum mechanics and physics of
relativity and motion, nuclear physics, chemistry in all of its complex
forms in action.

As long as these can provide a reasonable explanation for our empirical
observation there is little need to provide unprovable supernatural
solutions for the same. Just apply Occam's Razor.

> There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

Nope, there is none!

<https://www.fisica.net/relatividade/
stephen_hawking_a_brief_history_of_time.pdf>

Get your nursie/minder/social worker to download, read and explain the
above to you.
~~

--
Ördög - 👹️ - your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark.......
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz, Felix, Lion's Farts Foster, Rod Speed,
Jeeebus and co ...

- LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets like that gutter trash quality scumbag
nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris, Henry Briggs,
Louie braindeath, James somethin' plus all stolen nyms,
etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> *Ördög* <Belphegor@666.Hell.invalid.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> *U.S. Citizens Should Own Nuclear Warheads: Tim Pool*
>>>>>>>> /Rebel HQ/
>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg9-NUbuGQ&ab_channel=RebelHQ>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Libertarian YouTuber, Tim Pool wants to give everyday Americans
>>>>>>>> nuclear
>>>>>>>> weapons and anthrax. Jordan Uhl breaks it down on Rebel HQ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, but this guy is hardly a libertarian, more of a Marxist
>>>>>>> type. He goes everywhere and says whatever he believes will get
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>> attention. Like Trump and Biden he IMO is an idiot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Pool, was born in Chicago, Illinois, and grew up in a lower middle
>>>>>>> class family. He attended a Catholic school until completing the
>>>>>>> fifth
>>>>>>> grade and left school at the age of 14."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then again I'd never heard of him before so isn't popular
>>>>>>> surprised a
>>>>>>> Marxist Australian knows of him.
>>>>
>>>>>> He is actually a marxist hungarian.
>>>>
>>>>> Then why is he always bitching about me posting here?
>>>>
>>>> His parents dragged him here.
>>>
>>> He must love what Putin is doing.
>>
>> No he doesn't. From memtory that's why his parents left,
>> they had enough of a clue to have realised that we do
>> things much better than Hungary did with the Kremlin
>> doing what they are now doing to the Ukraine to Hungary.

> Ordog claims his parents separated and he came to Australia with his
> father

OK, when was that year wise ?

Ördög, the real Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote
> Petzl wrote

>> Ordog claims his parents separated and he came to Australia with his
>> father

> More than once I have explained to you already that my fatherhad never
> left Hungary. I came here with my mother joiningup with her family
> members already residing here.

Wonder when they left roughly.

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 3:54:32 PM UTC+11, Ördög, the real Devil wrote:
> Petz
>
> More than once I have explained to you already that my father had never
> left Hungary. I came here with my mother joining up with her family
> members already residing here. BTW my stepfather was an Australian
> citizen, so there you go.
> As far as any further details go on this subject I am certainly not going
> to disclose any of it here in Usenet, specially because you and your alt-
> right mates here are dangerous fanatics who would use any possible info
> to try to harm political opponent out there in the real world as
> underhanded and disgusting as that really is. Put it this way, your track
> record is less than squeaky clean. I can safely assume you favourite
> cohort is just as bad.
>
Only saw it once jammed in amongst a lot of your other gibber!
I met you years ago in a "Sydney Speleological Society" meeting in Pitt Street Sydney.
I am no threat to you or anyone. (maybe a mental health warning?)
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> "If Biden gets in you're going to end up with a depressionthe likes
>>>>> of which you've never seen. You'll be lucky Ifyou end up with a
>>>>> country at all."
>>>>> - President Donald J. Trump July 19, 2020

>>>> Only a fool would buy that mindless bullshit.

<reams of shit irrelevant to that stupid claim of Trump's flushed where
it belongs>

Petz

/snip/

> I met you years ago in a "Sydney Speleological Society" meeting in Pitt
> Street Sydney.

That you surely never did as according to their website they don't have
meetings there.
So now go and crawl back under your leaky and obviously extremely wet
park bench (home sweet home for you, in Shitboxville just opposite that
shabby old pub, your favourite watering hole, and the source of all those
countless Goon-Bags you keep purchasing in their bottle shop).

> I am no threat to you or anyone. (maybe a mental health warning?)

You are a threat to people, if in no other way then definitely due to
your stochastic alt-right terrorism.
But we both know (or should), that you have done worse in the past going
after people, even if given your broken down memory now are unable to
recall any of it.

~~~~
~~~~
Xtian fundy's idot sig busting:

" What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply coincidence?

The current state and the evolution of the Universe, planet Earth
included, are simply the results of quantum mechanics and physics of
relativity and motion, nuclear physics, chemistry in all of its complex
forms in action.

As long as these can provide a reasonable explanation for our empirical
observation there is little need to provide unprovable supernatural
solutions for the same. Just apply Occam's Razor.

> There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

Nope, there is none!

<https://www.fisica.net/relatividade/
stephen_hawking_a_brief_history_of_time.pdf>

Get your nursie/minder/social worker to download, read and explain the
above to you.
~~

--
Ördög - 👹️ - your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark.......
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz, Felix, Lion's Farts Foster, Rod Speed,
Jeeebus and co ...

- LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets like that gutter trash quality scumbag
nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris, Henry Briggs,
Louie braindeath, James somethin' plus all stolen nyms,
etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>