On 03/10/2022 10:43, Snit wrote:
> On Oct 3, 2022 at 2:29:45 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <dYx_K.560968$wkZ5.322368@fx11.ams1>:
>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: REPOSTING!
>> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:06:09 +0100
>> From: David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac
>> References: <qjo_K.1334692$Eeb3.1322025@fx05.ams1>
>> <Bkp_K.494294$6Il8.168237@fx14.iad>
>>
>> On 03/10/2022 00:41, Snit wrote:
>>> On Oct 2, 2022 at 3:31:50 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <qjo_K.1334692$Eeb3.1322025@fx05.ams1>:
>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cannot see where it hurts anything, but seems odd to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd, perhaps, but it feels good! 😂
>>>>>
>>>>> And that is what really matters -- are you happy with what you have.
>>>>
>>>> So far so good today! 😂
>>>
>>> That is what matters!
>>
>> Indeed! :-)
>>
>>>>> With me I have not done a fresh install since the Classic Mac
days... I
>>>>> upgrade in place. Did have one glitch doing so, years ago, but it
has been
>>>>> pretty flawless.
>>>>
>>>> Lucky you! 😄
>>>
>>> There is some luck, but Apple does good work.
>>
>> Agreed - I'll not be so tempted to simply 'try' things fom now on.
>
> I tend to be too open to it, even on the system I rely on. Only
rarely has it
> been an issue.
Apple is good with looking after the users of its products.
> My iPhone is being weird. Ended up calling Apple. Having an issue that is
> known internally but not one they are publicly speaking about. A
future update
> should resolve it.
Good luck with that!
>>>> How did you transfer all the data from your bricked iMac to your
Mac Mini?
>>>
>>> I had a Time Machine backup.
>>
>> Excellent. I'm pleased to learn that it worked.
>
> It did.. very well. Only challenge was I could not get my music
because I did
> not have the room.
Have you looked to see if it's in the iCloud?
>>>>>>>> *Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a malware developer knows that an antivirus will identify their
>>>> code,
>>>>>>>> they still have a few tactics up their sleeves to prevent
detection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of them is a trick called “obfuscation.” This is when a
malware
>>>>>>>> developer cleverly hides their malicious code so an antivirus
>>>> won’t find
>>>>>>>> it. For example, they may deploy a program that automatically
encrypts
>>>>>>>> and decrypts the bad parts, or change the code of the virus itself
>>>> so it
>>>>>>>> looks different every time it infects someone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By changing how it looks, it keeps the antivirus on its toes. An
>>>>>>>> antivirus is looking for a specific "signature" that identifies a
>>>>>>>> specific strain of malware for what it is, so if the malware
developer
>>>>>>>> can hide this signature, it can dodge an antivirus scan better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
<https://www.makeuseof.com/can-malware-go-undetected-how-viruses-hide-from-you/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It gave me a little more practice with using Terminal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's where things stood just before I hit 'return':-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://ibb.co/TY5xx8x>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The bonus, of course, is that I no longer have ANY of the tools
>>>> from The
>>>>>>>>>> Eclectic Light Company installed on my computer. 😂
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sure what your goal is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To be 100% sure that any malware present was removed from my
computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A full wipe and reinstall does not show that 100%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's EXACTLY that the police told me way back in 2005!
>>>>>> I didn't believe them at first! One of the reasons I later bought an
>>>>>> Apple iMac!
>>>>>
>>>>> You can have your firmware modified... and more. It is not
common, but if you
>>>>> want to be 100% sure there is no real way to do that. The system
can COME with
>>>>> modified firmware.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely correct!
>>>
>>> So your 100% goal is unachievable. :)
>>
>> Sadly, you are correct!
>>
>> I intend to buy my next Mac from directly from Apple.
>
> I always do... but I do not get the "stock" machines. I increase RAM and
> storage.

This machine I bought from https://uk.selectonline.com

It came with a three year guarantee.

>>>>>>>> How do YOU ensure that YOUR computer has not been compromised?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I take basic precautions and do not spend a lot of time worrying
>>>> about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't WORRY about the malware at all - just the folk who
>>>> perpetrate it!
>>>>>
>>>>> I know they are out there... but I also know there are many bad
>>>> people out
>>>>> there. When I encounter them I deal with it (recently did on a hike
>>>> when I ran
>>>>> into a bad situation).
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad you were not harmed..
>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you know there is not someone breaking into your house when
>>>> you are
>>>>>>> gone and messing with things? It is not likely... but it COULD
happen!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've told you before, I trust in God to protect me! 😂
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you never had malware?
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe you've asked that after everything I've told you!
>>>
>>> OK, have you with the software you are concerned with?
>>
>> As far as I'm aware, I've not been troubled with malware on THIS iMac.
>>
>> But I no way of knowing or testing that - apart from running third party
>> Apps. This is what I found recently:- https://ibb.co/fDD0GMH
>
> Things in email that will likely not cause any issue.

That's what I think too.

>>>>>>>> This is another serious question!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just do not spend much time worrying about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me neither! Trying to catch bad guys is fun! 🙂
>>>>>
>>>>> As long as you are doing it for fun... but understand that suggesting
>>>> someone
>>>>> seems like a bad guy based on what is likely a bad download is going
>>>> to push
>>>>> that developer away from you.
>>>>
>>>> You don't KNOW that it was "a bad download"!
>>>
>>> What other explanation is there?
>>
>> I asked you to discuss this as a question for Howard Oakley. You
declined.
>
> You already did discuss it with him and shared his views. Bad download /
> corrupt app.

Yes, that IS what he said.

>>>> That's simply what HO
>>>> *claimed*. I doubt anyone at all, anywhere, has *checked* what Mints
>>>> actually installs on a Mac.
>>>>
>>>> This is what the macOS showed:- <https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM>
>>>> I'm happy to trust that reult.
>>>
>>> I have asked a couple times but not sure of the answer: did you get
an error
>>> when you tried to open it? If so what was the error?
>>
>> No error that I can recall.
>
> What made you look to that screen?
This <https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM> was a Pop-up right in front of my eyes.
>> I have absolutely no idea what that software puts onto my computer nor
>> what it is /really/ designed to do.
>
> You have SOME idea... if you did not you would not install it.