To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).

The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.

I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On
the other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as £9 each.

There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too hot
and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
electrics like there's no tomorrow.

What would the panel do?

SF

On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>
> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
> still make them?)

Futons are more trendy these days.

> would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>
> I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On
> the other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as £9 each.
>
> There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too hot
> and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
> electrics like there's no tomorrow.
>
> What would the panel do?

Look at folding beds or camp beds: Far less work than pumping up an air
bed every night.

--
Colin Bignell

On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>
> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
> still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sofa-Bed-Chairs/s?k=Sofa+Bed+Chairs>
<https://www.chairbedsuk.co.uk/collections/chair-beds?page=1>, but they
don't show the bed, just the chair!

--

Jeff

On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:12:51 +1100, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

> On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
>> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
>> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do
>> they still make them?)
>
> Futons are more trendy these days.
>
>> would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>> I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On
>> the other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as £9
>> each.
>> There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too
>> hot and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
>> electrics like there's no tomorrow.
>> What would the panel do?
>
> Look at folding beds or camp beds: Far less work than pumping up an air
> bed every night.

Plenty of electric pumps now.

On 11/24/2023 1:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
>> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
>> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>>
>> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
>> still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>
> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sofa-Bed-Chairs/s?k=Sofa+Bed+Chairs>
> <https://www.chairbedsuk.co.uk/collections/chair-beds?page=1>, but they don't show the bed, just the chair!
>

There are multiple pictures on the "detail" page for each product.
It shows the soft-bed-chair in the chair position and the bed position.

https://www.chairbedsuk.co.uk/collections/chair-beds/products/kiara-crushed-velvet-single-sofa-bed-ebony?variant=42891754766558

I don't know what the back support would be like, on a device like that.

Paul

On 25/11/2023 03:08, Paul wrote:
> On 11/24/2023 1:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>>> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
>>> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
>>> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>>>
>>> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
>>> still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sofa-Bed-Chairs/s?k=Sofa+Bed+Chairs>
>> <https://www.chairbedsuk.co.uk/collections/chair-beds?page=1>, but they don't show the bed, just the chair!
>>
>
> There are multiple pictures on the "detail" page for each product.
> It shows the soft-bed-chair in the chair position and the bed position.

It seems it's a matter of which armchair you look at! By bad luck I
chose armchairs which don't do that. See "Abbey chair" bottom left of
page 2, "Arlete reclining chair bed" bottom right of page 3. Also, if
you click on the product name on the selection page rather than the
picture, it goes to a detailed information page of that chair, but it
only has the chair position shown (eg open the "Arles chair bed" details
by clicking on the name at the top of page 2, or even the Kiara bed you
linked to below).

> https://www.chairbedsuk.co.uk/collections/chair-beds/products/kiara-crushed-velvet-single-sofa-bed-ebony?variant=42891754766558
>
> I don't know what the back support would be like, on a device like that.

That's the problem with ordering a bed over the internet!

--

Jeff

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On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>
> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
> still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.

Run a fan, blowing the warm air, to the colder side.

On 25/11/2023 16:40, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
>> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
>> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>>
>> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do
>> they still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>
> Run a fan, blowing the warm air, to the colder side.

I suspect it is radiated warmth from the building structure, rather than
warm air.

--
Colin Bignell

On 11/24/23 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>
> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
> still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>
> I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On
> the other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as £9 each.
>
> There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too hot
> and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
> electrics like there's no tomorrow.
>
> What would the panel do?
>

I would sleep in a very cold room. Electric under blankets are cheap and
economical to run. With suitable duvet and covers, why do you need it to
be warm? I actually like a warm bed in a cold room.

But, I didn't think high rise flats got cold.

On 25/11/2023 17:46, Pancho wrote:
> On 11/24/23 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
>> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
>> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>>
>> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do
>> they still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>>
>> I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On
>> the other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as £9 each.
>>
>> There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too
>> hot and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
>> electrics like there's no tomorrow.
>>
>> What would the panel do?
>>
>
> I would sleep in a very cold room. Electric under blankets are cheap and
> economical to run. With suitable duvet and covers, why do you need it to
> be warm?

To avoid having a cold nose.

> I actually like a warm bed in a cold room.
>
> But, I didn't think high rise flats got cold.

--
Colin Bignell

On 11/25/23 19:00, Colin Bignell wrote:

>>
>> I would sleep in a very cold room. Electric under blankets are cheap
>> and economical to run. With suitable duvet and covers, why do you need
>> it to be warm?
>
> To avoid having a cold nose.
>

I don't experience that. How cold are we talking?

On 25/11/2023 20:40, Pancho wrote:
> On 11/25/23 19:00, Colin Bignell wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I would sleep in a very cold room. Electric under blankets are cheap
>>> and economical to run. With suitable duvet and covers, why do you
>>> need it to be warm?
>>
>> To avoid having a cold nose.
>>
>
> I don't experience that. How cold are we talking?
>

Too cold for me to want to get out and find a thermometer :-)

--
Colin Bignell

I am ok with sleeping in a cold room. Just not a freezing one. And we
are not even in winter yet.

Having to find the motivation to get up from your bed instead of
daydreaming about topping yourself when it's cold as fuck doesn't work
if you have a history of psychotic depression.

Pancho:
> On 11/24/23 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
>> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
>> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>>
>> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do
>> they still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>>
>> I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On
>> the other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as £9 each.
>>
>> There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too
>> hot and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
>> electrics like there's no tomorrow.
>>
>> What would the panel do?
>>
>
> I would sleep in a very cold room. Electric under blankets are cheap and
> economical to run. With suitable duvet and covers, why do you need it to
> be warm? I actually like a warm bed in a cold room.
>
> But, I didn't think high rise flats got cold.

On 11/27/2023 5:19 AM, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> I am ok with sleeping in a cold room. Just not a freezing one. And we are not even in winter yet.
>
> Having to find the motivation to get up from your bed instead of daydreaming about topping yourself when it's cold as fuck doesn't work if you have a history of psychotic depression.
>

If there is an electrical outlet, you have options.

An electric blanket is better than nothing, as an example.

It doesn't use nearly as much electricity, as a baseboard
electrical heater which is heating the entire room.

Paul

Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>
> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
> still make them?) would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>
> I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On
> the other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as £9 each.
>
> There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too hot
> and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
> electrics like there's no tomorrow.
>
> What would the panel do?
>
> SF
>

Try IKEA.

They do more numerous sofa beds etc. Plus they deliver.

We have an IKEA folding futon thing in one of our spare rooms which doubles
as Senior Managements sewing room.

It is comfortable to sit on. I’ve never slept on it but daughters have and
tell us it is comfortable. It isn’t that easy to fold out but do able.

Yes, OK as long as you do not have any back issues. Some people find them a
bit low to get up from.

Is there nothing which can be done about the cold wall, as its obviously the
problem area. When they redid some council flats around here, they put
insulation on the inside of the outside walls and put some kind of cladding
on the outside. Brian

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> On 24/11/2023 14:44, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>> To cut the story short, one side of my 1-bedroom flat is very cold at
>> night and the other is quite warm because it is adjacent to the
>> building's boilers (it is a high rise council estate).
>>
>> The warmer side is too small to move my bed there. A sofa chair (do they
>> still make them?)
>
> Futons are more trendy these days.
>
>> would be ideal, so would an inflatable bed.
>>
>> I had an inflatable bed last year, but it only lasted me 2 months. On the
>> other hand, local Home Bargain sell airbeds for as little as �9 each.
>>
>> There's no point in turning the heating on at night. It would be too hot
>> and then too cold. I have an oil filled radiator but it sucks the
>> electrics like there's no tomorrow.
>>
>> What would the panel do?
>
> Look at folding beds or camp beds: Far less work than pumping up an air
> bed every night.
>
> --
> Colin Bignell
>