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 by: Alan B - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 15:55 UTC

There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
available shortly.

Apple have released a video ....

<https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Alan B - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 19:10 UTC

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
> available shortly.
>
> Apple have released a video ....
>
> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>

So next week should also see the release is iOS and iPadOS 16.1 and macOS
Ventura, especially as RCs are now available for developers.

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Mark - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 19:44 UTC

On 2022-10-18 19:10:50 +0000, Alan B
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> said:

> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
>> available shortly.
>>
>> Apple have released a video ....
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>
>
> So next week should also see the release is iOS and iPadOS 16.1 and macOS
> Ventura, especially as RCs are now available for developers.

The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
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Cheers ... Mark

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In article <timvmd$1n0d$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Mark
<captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!

the existing basic model is still offered.

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 by: Mark - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 19:47 UTC

On 2022-10-18 19:45:52 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <timvmd$1n0d$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Mark
> <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
>
> the existing basic model is still offered.

It is, but that's a heck of a hike in price for the new one.
--
Cheers ... Mark

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 by: Alan B - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 19:53 UTC

Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2022-10-18 19:45:52 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:
>
>> In article <timvmd$1n0d$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Mark
>> <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
>>
>> the existing basic model is still offered.
>
> It is, but that's a heck of a hike in price for the new one.

They might argue there’s lots of mitigating reasons, e.g. Chip shortages,
the Ukraine crisis ….

Where are they manufactured - has that changed?

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: nospam - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 19:59 UTC

In article <tin07d$3qafl$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>,
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> >>> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
> >>
> >> the existing basic model is still offered.
> >
> > It is, but that's a heck of a hike in price for the new one.
>
> They might argue there¹s lots of mitigating reasons, e.g. Chip shortages,
> the Ukraine crisis Š.

exchange rate

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 by: Mark - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 20:05 UTC

On 2022-10-18 19:59:32 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <tin07d$3qafl$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>,
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
>>>>
>>>> the existing basic model is still offered.
>>>
>>> It is, but that's a heck of a hike in price for the new one.
>>
>> They might argue there¹s lots of mitigating reasons, e.g. Chip shortages,
>> the Ukraine crisis Š.
>
> exchange rate

Ahhh. £1 is $1.13. Christ...
--
Cheers ... Mark

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 by: Alan B - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 20:10 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <tin07d$3qafl$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>,
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
>>>>
>>>> the existing basic model is still offered.
>>>
>>> It is, but that's a heck of a hike in price for the new one.
>>
>> They might argue there¹s lots of mitigating reasons, e.g. Chip shortages,
>> the Ukraine crisis Š.
>
> exchange rate

Yes of course - probably the major factor.

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Chris Ridd - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 20:29 UTC

On 18/10/2022 16:55, Alan B wrote:
> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
> available shortly.
>
> Apple have released a video ....
>
> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>

Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.

--
Chris

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 by: nospam - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 20:52 UTC

In article <tin2c1$3qdkr$1@dont-email.me>, Chris Ridd
<chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:

>
> Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.

no worries. there's an adapter.

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 by: Theo - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 21:21 UTC

Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
> On 18/10/2022 16:55, Alan B wrote:
> > There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
> > available shortly.
> >
> > Apple have released a video ....
> >
> > <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>
>
> Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.

"USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter required to work with iPad (10th generation)"

it says in the small print at the end. I suppose that means it has USB-C
but you have to shove the Pencil into a Lightning adapter and charge it
sticking out the side...

(or perhaps a USB-C female to charge the pencil from a regular charger?)

I suppose that's because they didn't want to fit the Pencil v2 wireless
charging coil for cost reasons.

Theo

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In article <ZBw*Zy80y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> > Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.
>
> "USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter required to work with iPad (10th generation)"
>
> it says in the small print at the end. I suppose that means it has USB-C
> but you have to shove the Pencil into a Lightning adapter and charge it
> sticking out the side...
>
> (or perhaps a USB-C female to charge the pencil from a regular charger?)

<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/18/ipad-only-supports-first-apple-pen
cil/>
The first-generation Apple Pencil came with a female to female
Lightning adapter allowing it to be charged separately, but now
Apple is offering a new variant of the accessory called the "USB-C
to Apple Pencil Adapter" that enables Apple Pencil users to charge.
The adapter is available separately at a price of $9 for existing
Apple Pencil users, while new Apple Pencil units include the adapter
in the box.

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 by: Bruce Horrocks - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 00:06 UTC

On 18/10/2022 16:55, Alan B wrote:
> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
> available shortly.
>
> Apple have released a video ....
>
> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>

Apparently I can use the Apple iPad pencil to "procreate". Fnarr!

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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 by: RJH - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 04:42 UTC

On 18 Oct 2022 at 21:52:43 BST, nospam wrote:

> In article <tin2c1$3qdkr$1@dont-email.me>, Chris Ridd
> <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.
>
> no worries. there's an adapter.

Well, slight worries, but hey :-)

V.2 pencil support and the M1 chip seem to be the only significant differences
between the new iPad and the iPad Air. Not much for £170?
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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 by: Chris - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 07:44 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <tin2c1$3qdkr$1@dont-email.me>, Chris Ridd
> <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.
>
> no worries. there's an adapter.

Of course there's an adapter.

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 by: Chris - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 07:44 UTC

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-10-18 19:45:52 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:
>>
>>> In article <timvmd$1n0d$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Mark
>>> <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
>>>
>>> the existing basic model is still offered.
>>
>> It is, but that's a heck of a hike in price for the new one.
>
> They might argue there’s lots of mitigating reasons, e.g. Chip shortages,
> the Ukraine crisis ….
>
> Where are they manufactured - has that changed?

The inflation data is real.

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 by: Chris - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 07:53 UTC

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
> available shortly.
>
> Apple have released a video ....
>
> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>

Now up the Store:
https://www.apple.com/uk/ipad/

There's also a new Magic Keyboard Folio for the new 10th Gen ipad. With
function keys and a trackpad. Basically a Mac. Not sure it's worth the
money (£279!!).

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 by: Alan B - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 07:59 UTC

On 2022-10-18, Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2022-10-18 19:59:32 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:
>
>> In article <tin07d$3qafl$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>,
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> The new 'basic' 64gb wi-fi iPad is now £499!
>>>>>
>>>>> the existing basic model is still offered.
>>>>
>>>> It is, but that's a heck of a hike in price for the new one.
>>>
>>> They might argue there¹s lots of mitigating reasons, e.g. Chip shortages,
>>> the Ukraine crisis Š.
>>
>> exchange rate
>
> Ahhh. £1 is $1.13. Christ...

It's been a lot worse than that recently and might yet slip down again,
as well as the general inflationary pressures I failed to mention earlier :(

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Alan B - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:20 UTC

On 2022-10-19, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
>> available shortly.
>>
>> Apple have released a video ....
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>
>
> Now up the Store:
> https://www.apple.com/uk/ipad/
>
> There's also a new Magic Keyboard Folio for the new 10th Gen ipad. With
> function keys and a trackpad. Basically a Mac. Not sure it's worth the
> money (£279!!).

I think I'll give up any idea of getting a new iPad and/or iPhone! I
wonder how much I'll be charged for replacing the battery in my iPad
Mini now?

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 by: Alan B - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:28 UTC

On 2022-10-19, Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
> On 18/10/2022 16:55, Alan B wrote:
>> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
>> available shortly.
>>
>> Apple have released a video ....
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>
>
> Apparently I can use the Apple iPad pencil to "procreate". Fnarr!

You're clearly after "an award winning creative experience like no other."

<https://procreate.art>

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 by: David Brooks - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:48 UTC

On 19/10/2022 09:28, Alan B wrote:
> On 2022-10-19, Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>> On 18/10/2022 16:55, Alan B wrote:
>>> There's a new iPad Pro with M2 processor plus an entry-level iPad
>>> available shortly.
>>>
>>> Apple have released a video ....
>>>
>>> <https://youtu.be/yUKRkPKg5_U>
>>
>> Apparently I can use the Apple iPad pencil to "procreate". Fnarr!
>
> You're clearly after "an award winning creative experience like no other."
>
> <https://procreate.art>

It's not expensive at $9.99

https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id425073498

I may just invest in that if we have a cold and wet winter!

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 by: Mark - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:55 UTC

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 18 Oct 2022 at 21:52:43 BST, nospam wrote:
>
>> In article <tin2c1$3qdkr$1@dont-email.me>, Chris Ridd
>> <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.
>>
>> no worries. there's an adapter.
>
> Well, slight worries, but hey :-)
>
> V.2 pencil support and the M1 chip seem to be the only significant differences
> between the new iPad and the iPad Air. Not much for £170?

I don’t think the new iPad will be able to run the new multitasking/window
thingamajig of iPadOS16 either.

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Cheers ... Mark

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 by: Alan B - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 09:00 UTC

Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 18 Oct 2022 at 21:52:43 BST, nospam wrote:
>>
>>> In article <tin2c1$3qdkr$1@dont-email.me>, Chris Ridd
>>> <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.
>>>
>>> no worries. there's an adapter.
>>
>> Well, slight worries, but hey :-)
>>
>> V.2 pencil support and the M1 chip seem to be the only significant differences
>> between the new iPad and the iPad Air. Not much for £170?
>
> I don’t think the new iPad will be able to run the new multitasking/window
> thingamajig of iPadOS16 either.

Oh well, I guess you pays your money, and takes your choice.

--
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 by: Alan B - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 15:22 UTC

On 2022-10-19, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> On 18 Oct 2022 at 21:52:43 BST, nospam wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <tin2c1$3qdkr$1@dont-email.me>, Chris Ridd
>>>> <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, still only Pencil v1 support? That's poor.
>>>>
>>>> no worries. there's an adapter.
>>>
>>> Well, slight worries, but hey :-)
>>>
>>> V.2 pencil support and the M1 chip seem to be the only significant differences
>>> between the new iPad and the iPad Air. Not much for £170?
>>
>> I don’t think the new iPad will be able to run the new multitasking/window
>> thingamajig of iPadOS16 either.
>
> Oh well, I guess you pays your money, and takes your choice.

The strong dollar against currencies such as the £ has pushed up
prices quite significantly for other kit, e.g. Mac Mini.

<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/19/apple-hikes-ipad-mini-prices-outside-us/>

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