Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?

I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
and passwords are lost.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

In article <tiu3p8$kkpv$1@dont-email.me>, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
wrote:

> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>
> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
> and passwords are lost.

<https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-you
r-browsing>

Am 21.10.22 um 15:06 schrieb nospam:
> In article <tiu3p8$kkpv$1@dont-email.me>, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>
>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>> and passwords are lost.
>
> <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-you
> r-browsing>

The link is not complete. Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.

<https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-your-browsing>

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

In article <tiu92q$13cl$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:

> >> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
> >>
> >> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as
> >> location
> >> and passwords are lost.
> >
> > <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-you
> > r-browsing>
>
> The link is not complete.

yes it is, properly delimited as per the rfcs.

> Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.

please use a newsreader that's rfc compliant.

that rules out thunderbird.

and did you really need to save *three* keystrokes by abbreviating the
word please to pls? unlike twitter, sms, etc., there are no limits to
the size of usenet posts.

Am 21.10.22 um 16:43 schrieb nospam:
> In article <tiu92q$13cl$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
> wrote:
>
>>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as
>>>> location
>>>> and passwords are lost.
>>>
>>> <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-you
>>> r-browsing>
>>
>> The link is not complete.
>
> yes it is, properly delimited as per the rfcs.
>
>> Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.
>
> please use a newsreader that's rfc compliant.

TB is in contrast to the awkward User-Agent: Thoth/1.9.0 (Mac OS X)

> that rules out thunderbird.

Bullshit! Everybody can see that my repetition in TB is clickable yours
not.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 21.10.22 um 15:06 schrieb nospam:
> > In article <tiu3p8$kkpv$1@dont-email.me>, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
> >>
> >> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as
> >> location and passwords are lost.
> >
> > <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-you
> > r-browsing>
>
> The link is not complete. Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.
>
> <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-your-browsing>

It worked for me.

--
^Ï^. My pet rock Gordon just is.

~ Slava Ukraini ~

In article <tiuca9$13ua$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:

> >> Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.
> >
> > please use a newsreader that's rfc compliant.
>
> TB is in contrast to the awkward User-Agent: Thoth/1.9.0 (Mac OS X)

correct.

thunderbird is non-compliant, whereas thoth is.

> > that rules out thunderbird.
>
> Bullshit! Everybody can see that my repetition in TB is clickable yours
> not.

both are clickable.

however, yours is non-compliant and will break when quoted.

that's one of the purposes of <> delimiters, to enclose a url so that
it *doesn't* break with embedded whitespace, line breaks and/or quote
characters.

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>
> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
> and passwords are lost.

I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
quite a good job.

--
Andy H

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
> Am 21.10.22 um 15:06 schrieb nospam:
>> In article <tiu3p8$kkpv$1@dont-email.me>, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>
>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>>> and passwords are lost.
>>
>> <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-you
>> r-browsing>
>
> The link is not complete. Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.
>
> <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-your-browsing>

What are you talking about here? You reposted the EXACT same link that
nospam posted. Both work here and both go to the same page.

On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:09:23 BST, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <tiuca9$13ua$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
> wrote:
>
>>>> Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.
>>>
>>> please use a newsreader that's rfc compliant.
>>
>> TB is in contrast to the awkward User-Agent: Thoth/1.9.0 (Mac OS X)
>
> correct.
>
> thunderbird is non-compliant, whereas thoth is.
>
>>> that rules out thunderbird.
>>
>> Bullshit! Everybody can see that my repetition in TB is clickable yours
>> not.
>
> both are clickable.
>
> however, yours is non-compliant and will break when quoted.
>
> that's one of the purposes of <> delimiters, to enclose a url so that
> it *doesn't* break with embedded whitespace, line breaks and/or quote
> characters.

Quite right, Spamfrey.

--
Tim

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> writes:

> Am 21.10.22 um 16:43 schrieb nospam:
>> In article <tiu92q$13cl$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as
>>>>> location
>>>>> and passwords are lost.
>>>>
>>>> <https://thenextweb.com/news/how-to-stop-cookie-pop-ups-from-ruining-you
>>>> r-browsing>
>>>
>>> The link is not complete.
>>
>> yes it is, properly delimited as per the rfcs.
>>
>>> Pls use a newreader which masters this easy task.
>>
>> please use a newsreader that's rfc compliant.
>
> TB is in contrast to the awkward User-Agent: Thoth/1.9.0 (Mac OS X)
>
>> that rules out thunderbird.
>
> Bullshit! Everybody can see that my repetition in TB is clickable yours
> not.

The original is clickable for me as it should be as noted in standards e.g. RFC 3986 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3986.html#page-51>

Which says

In some cases, extra whitespace (spaces, line-breaks, tabs, etc.) may
have to be added to break a long URI across lines. The whitespace
should be ignored when the URI is extracted.

So the standard explicitly says that line breaks should be ignored.

Am 21.10.22 um 17:09 schrieb nospam:
> both are clickable.

But yours broke at the end of the line.

> however, yours is non-compliant and will break when quoted.

False.

> that's one of the purposes of <> delimiters, to enclose a url so that
> it *doesn't* break with embedded whitespace, line breaks and/or quote
> characters.

Total loss of reality. Your delimiters had no effect and the link broke.
My link will always work with the same delimiters you used but
implemented fully rfc-compliant by TB.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

In article <tiue3r$1558$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:

> > both are clickable.
>
> But yours broke at the end of the line.

only because thunderbird is non-compliant with the rfcs.

get a non-broken newsreader and the problem goes away.

under no circumstances should anyone deviate from established standards
solely to accommodate buggy incompatible software.

> > however, yours is non-compliant and will break when quoted.
>
> False.

not false.

thunderbird is non-compliant and what's worse is its developers have no
interest in fixing it (among its numerous other problems).

> > that's one of the purposes of <> delimiters, to enclose a url so that
> > it *doesn't* break with embedded whitespace, line breaks and/or quote
> > characters.
>
> Total loss of reality. Your delimiters had no effect and the link broke.

demonstrably false.

> My link will always work with the same delimiters you used

no it won't.

your link *will* break when quoted.

> but
> implemented fully rfc-compliant by TB.

hah. thunderbird has no clue what an rfc even means.

Am 21.10.22 um 17:41 schrieb nospam:
>> My link will always work with the same delimiters you used
>
> no it won't.
>
> your link *will* break when quoted.
>
>> but
>> implemented fully rfc-compliant by TB.
>
> hah. thunderbird has no clue what an rfc even means.

And you think you know better?
Ridiculous!

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:10:26 BST, Andy Hewitt wrote:

> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>
>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>> and passwords are lost.
>
> I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
> quite a good job.

Thanks very much (and nospam) - installed and passed the Met Office test.

it seems a small thing, but agreeing (or not) to something I know very little
about was starting to get on my nerves.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 23/10/2022 10:42, RJH wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:10:26 BST, Andy Hewitt wrote:
>
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>
>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>>> and passwords are lost.
>>
>> I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
>> quite a good job.
>
> Thanks very much (and nospam) - installed and passed the Met Office test.
>
> it seems a small thing, but agreeing (or not) to something I know very little
> about was starting to get on my nerves.

Yes, I was getting fed up with it too. Sometimes the tree-hugging
do-gooders can end up being less helpful than intended.

I appreciate the need to give the user a choice, but surely we don't
always have to bow down to lowest level of intelligence!

--
Andy H

On 2022-10-23, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:10:26 BST, Andy Hewitt wrote:
>
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>
>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>>> and passwords are lost.
>>
>> I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
>> quite a good job.
>
> Thanks very much (and nospam) - installed and passed the Met Office test.

That site is one I check regularly and it's been ****ing me off for
ages. Now I've got my vision restored (in one eye), I've rekindled my
interest in clouds and other weather things. Once I've sorted out the
Ventura release I'll almost certainly install Super Agent. TIA.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:10:26 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>
>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>> and passwords are lost.
>
> I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
> quite a good job.

I have installed Super Agent to Safari and Firefox on my iMac, no problems.

When I installed it in my iPad and enabled it according to the instructions it
seemed to work at first - the check page said it was OK. But almost
immediately I started getting Cookie requests, and the check page reports that
it doesn't have the necessary peermissions - although they are still shown as
correctly set in Settings/Safari/Extensions.

Turning this off and on again, which sometimes fixes things, did not work.
I've even uninstalled the app (which also remaoves the extension) with n0
effect.

I emailed Super Agent for help some days ago - no reply.

Any suggestions? I do most of my browsing in Safari on my iPad, and would
really like to get it going!

John.
--
You're not an old dog until you can't learn new tricks

Am 27.10.22 um 15:56 schrieb John Hill:
> On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:10:26 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>
>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>>> and passwords are lost.
>>
>> I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
>> quite a good job.
>
> I have installed Super Agent to Safari and Firefox on my iMac, no problems.

For Firefox I prefer "I don't care about cookies".

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:10:26 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>
>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>>> and passwords are lost.
>>
>> I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
>> quite a good job.
>
> I have installed Super Agent to Safari and Firefox on my iMac, no problems.
>
> When I installed it in my iPad and enabled it according to the instructions it
> seemed to work at first - the check page said it was OK. But almost
> immediately I started getting Cookie requests, and the check page reports that
> it doesn't have the necessary peermissions - although they are still shown as
> correctly set in Settings/Safari/Extensions.
>
> Turning this off and on again, which sometimes fixes things, did not work.
> I've even uninstalled the app (which also remaoves the extension) with n0
> effect.
>
> I emailed Super Agent for help some days ago - no reply.
>
> Any suggestions? I do most of my browsing in Safari on my iPad, and would
> really like to get it going!
>
> John.

Not much I can suggest really, it’s been working fine for me on iMac and
iPad (iPadOS 16.1 now).

I take it you’ve checked the settings in the Extension, you need to go to
the Super Agent item, and click on the ‘All Websites’ in the ‘Permissions’
box. Mine is set to ‘Allow’. It can be set to ‘Ask’, but that kind of
defeats the object IMO, or ‘Deny’, but then why have the app?

--
Andy H

On 2022-10-24, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Once I've sorted out the Ventura release I'll almost certainly install
> Super Agent. TIA.

SA installed for Safari on Ventura and iOS - seems to work OK so far.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 27 Oct 2022 at 14:56:22 BST, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 21 Oct 2022 at 16:10:26 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to stop this happening when I visit a web site using Safari?
>>>
>>> I don't want to 'block all cookies' if it means preferences such as location
>>> and passwords are lost.
>>
>> I’ve been using Super Agent on all my devices recently, and it seems to do
>> quite a good job.
>
> I have installed Super Agent to Safari and Firefox on my iMac, no problems.
>
> When I installed it in my iPad and enabled it according to the instructions it
> seemed to work at first - the check page said it was OK. But almost
> immediately I started getting Cookie requests, and the check page reports that
> it doesn't have the necessary peermissions - although they are still shown as
> correctly set in Settings/Safari/Extensions.
>
> Turning this off and on again, which sometimes fixes things, did not work.
> I've even uninstalled the app (which also remaoves the extension) with n0
> effect.
>
> I emailed Super Agent for help some days ago - no reply.
>
> Any suggestions? I do most of my browsing in Safari on my iPad, and would
> really like to get it going!
>
> John.

Weird. I left it in place for a coupe of days but turned off. I turned it on
again yesterday, and the check said it was ail OK!
But is it? I'm still getting cookie requests!

I\ll see what happens today…I could always try updating to iPadOS 16, of
course.

Still no reply tp my email to Super Agent asking got help.

John.
--
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.