Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
are empty.
Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
which occasionally helps with some channels.
Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
population up?

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I notice this on my Samsung tv. I thought it was just that the different
channels send them at different rates.
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"wasbit" <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others are
> empty.
> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
> which occasionally helps with some channels.
> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
> population up?
>
> --
> Regards
> wasbit

wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
> are empty.
> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
> which occasionally helps with some channels.
> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
> population up?
>

I have the same issue on another set top box - a VBox ( it feeds TV onto my
local network and you can view on an iPad, record etc. )

I’ve noticed if I display the EPG then select a channel to watch - which
then displays the current programme- wait a moment, the EPG usually updates
virtually fully, including the week ahead.

It doesn’t seem to matter which channel I select, although I normally pick
one of the main ones - Drama, ITV, etc.

That said, this only works from a tablet of phone- probably as the VBox
doesn’t support viewing on laptop browsers.

To view TV on a laptop, I need to use a VLC. The trick doesn’t work with
VLC as you can’t view the EPG in VLC.

On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
> are empty.
> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
> which occasionally helps with some channels.
> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
> population up?
>

On one of my old boxes (not Humax) the problem was the amount of EPG to
be downloaded and stored was causing some tardiness. The solution was
after a scan for channels removing/deleting all the channels you would
never watch.

Question: does the Humax store the 7 day EPG to disk when it is shut
down properly and then reads the EPG from the disk when powered back up?
On other boxes this mechanism can/fail if the box is not shut down
properly by switching off at the mains socket before putting into
perhaps a deep standby first. The box needs to know its going to be
switched off in order to transfer the EPG from RAM to disk. If a box is
switched on without the EPG it can take approx 5 to 10 minutes for it to
fully populate.

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On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
> are empty.
> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
> which occasionally helps with some channels.
> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
> population up?
>

Last night was particularly bad again, hours & hours on most channels
showing 'No Programme Information'.
Had to wait for one programme to start before I could record it.

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wasbit

On 16/01/2024 15:47, alan_m wrote:
> On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
>> are empty.
>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back
>> on which occasionally helps with some channels.
>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>> population up?
>>
>
>
> On one of my old boxes (not Humax) the problem was the amount of EPG to
> be downloaded and stored was causing some tardiness. The solution was
> after a scan for channels removing/deleting all the channels you would
> never watch.
>
> Question: does the Humax store the 7 day EPG to disk when it is shut
> down properly and then reads the EPG from the disk when powered back up?
> On other boxes this mechanism can/fail if the box is not shut down
> properly by switching off at the mains socket before putting into
> perhaps a deep standby first. The box needs to know its going to be
> switched off in order to transfer the EPG from RAM to disk.  If a box is
> switched on without the EPG it can take approx 5 to 10 minutes for it to
> fully populate.
>

I don't know. Where would I find that information?

The box is normally turned on & off manually using the button, (not the
remote) & very rarely turned off at the mains.

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wasbit

On 17/01/2024 09:49, wasbit wrote:
> On 16/01/2024 15:47, alan_m wrote:
>> On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
>>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
>>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst
>>> others are empty.
>>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back
>>> on which occasionally helps with some channels.
>>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an
>>> hour.
>>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>>> population up?
>>>
>>
>>
>> On one of my old boxes (not Humax) the problem was the amount of EPG
>> to be downloaded and stored was causing some tardiness. The solution
>> was after a scan for channels removing/deleting all the channels you
>> would never watch.
>>
>> Question: does the Humax store the 7 day EPG to disk when it is shut
>> down properly and then reads the EPG from the disk when powered back
>> up? On other boxes this mechanism can/fail if the box is not shut down
>> properly by switching off at the mains socket before putting into
>> perhaps a deep standby first. The box needs to know its going to be
>> switched off in order to transfer the EPG from RAM to disk.  If a box
>> is switched on without the EPG it can take approx 5 to 10 minutes for
>> it to fully populate.
>>
>
> I don't know. Where would I find that information?
>
> The box is normally turned on & off manually using the button, (not the
> remote) & very rarely turned off at the mains.

The manual say the button is the standby/on button. The box takes less
than 0.5W in standby.

This (user) reply suggests that the epg is purged from the box during
overnight housekeeping and the solution to your problem may be to set
some form of timer to automatically switch to BBC1 HD for a short time
each day to refresh the EPG.

See first reply
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/fvp-5000t-no-programme-information-on-epg
>

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:13:30 +0000, wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
>Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
>are empty.
>Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
>which occasionally helps with some channels.
>Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
>Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>population up?

Doubt if this helps, but I have a Humax HDR-FOX T2, which is always on
standby when I'm not watching the TV. The EPG is just always there,
instantly, the whole week, lots of channels, whenever I bring it out
of standby. Maybe it continuously updates when in standby. I've not
tried turning it off.

But I have now, and the EPG is all there again, instantly. reception
is via a loft aerial (unplugging it kills the signal) but there is an
Ethernet connection to my BT Hub. Not sure why, set it up a few years
ago and can't now remember :-(

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On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others are empty.
> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on which occasionally helps with some channels.
> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the population up?
>
My Humax FVP 5000T has just died (so I've sent it off for repair, may report on that separately when there's some progress) so can't check this directly, but there is an option to turn it on every day for a short period (15 mins seems enough) which allows it to populate its programme guide. It's somewhere hidden among the power options. If you can't find it I may be able to find the manual and find more detail of where it is in the setup menu tree.

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On 17/01/2024 12:20, Chris Hogg wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:13:30 +0000, wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
>> are empty.
>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
>> which occasionally helps with some channels.
>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>> population up?
>
> Doubt if this helps, but I have a Humax HDR-FOX T2, which is always on
> standby when I'm not watching the TV. The EPG is just always there,
> instantly, the whole week, lots of channels, whenever I bring it out
> of standby. Maybe it continuously updates when in standby. I've not
> tried turning it off.
>
> But I have now, and the EPG is all there again, instantly. reception
> is via a loft aerial (unplugging it kills the signal) but there is an
> Ethernet connection to my BT Hub. Not sure why, set it up a few years
> ago and can't now remember :-(
>

I have an HD-FOX-T2 (one tuner) with an external 2.5 inch
HD to record stuff on. It also sleeps on standby and the
EPG is always there.

There haven't been any OTA updates for these for quite
some time so you don't need to leave it connected to your
BT hub and the version of the iPlayer is so ancient it
is effectively unusable. I use the Android part of my
connected Sony Bravia for catchup and YouTube.

On 17/01/2024 11:14, alan_m wrote:
> On 17/01/2024 09:49, wasbit wrote:
>> On 16/01/2024 15:47, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
>>>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the
>>>> EPG.
>>>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>>>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst
>>>> others are empty.
>>>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then
>>>> back on which occasionally helps with some channels.
>>>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an
>>>> hour.
>>>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>>>> population up?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On one of my old boxes (not Humax) the problem was the amount of EPG
>>> to be downloaded and stored was causing some tardiness. The solution
>>> was after a scan for channels removing/deleting all the channels you
>>> would never watch.
>>>
>>> Question: does the Humax store the 7 day EPG to disk when it is shut
>>> down properly and then reads the EPG from the disk when powered back
>>> up? On other boxes this mechanism can/fail if the box is not shut
>>> down properly by switching off at the mains socket before putting
>>> into perhaps a deep standby first. The box needs to know its going to
>>> be switched off in order to transfer the EPG from RAM to disk.  If a
>>> box is switched on without the EPG it can take approx 5 to 10 minutes
>>> for it to fully populate.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know. Where would I find that information?
>>
>> The box is normally turned on & off manually using the button, (not
>> the remote) & very rarely turned off at the mains.
>
> The manual say the button is the standby/on button. The box takes less
> than 0.5W in standby.
>
> This (user) reply suggests that the epg is purged from the box during
> overnight housekeeping and the solution to your problem may be to set
> some form of timer to automatically switch to BBC1 HD for a short time
> each day to refresh the EPG.
>
> See first reply
> https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/fvp-5000t-no-programme-information-on-epg
>>
>

I had searched before I asked but didn't come across that answer.

The only mention of EPG in the manual is in the glossary & includes
'The information supplied in the EPG is sent and updated by the channel
broadcaster.'

The machine does turn itself on & off & the hard drive starts & stops
during the night whilst in standby mode - presumably updating something.

I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.

Thanks.
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wasbit

On 17/01/2024 23:05, Clive Page wrote:
> On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
>> are empty.
>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back
>> on which occasionally helps with some channels.
>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>> population up?
>>
> My Humax FVP 5000T has just died (so I've sent it off for repair, may
> report on that separately when there's some progress) so can't check
> this directly, but there is an option to turn it on every day for a
> short period (15 mins seems enough) which allows it to populate its
> programme guide.   It's somewhere hidden among the power options.   If
> you can't find it I may be able to find the manual and find more detail
> of where it is in the setup menu tree.
>

Manual page 25
'Power Timer
You can set the time the product powers on or powers off.'

Thanks. I'll try turning it on for 30 minutes during the day.

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wasbit

On 17/01/2024 12:20, Chris Hogg wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:13:30 +0000, wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
>> are empty.
>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
>> which occasionally helps with some channels.
>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>> population up?
>
> Doubt if this helps, but I have a Humax HDR-FOX T2, which is always on
> standby when I'm not watching the TV. The EPG is just always there,
> instantly, the whole week, lots of channels, whenever I bring it out
> of standby. Maybe it continuously updates when in standby. I've not
> tried turning it off.
>
> But I have now, and the EPG is all there again, instantly. reception
> is via a loft aerial (unplugging it kills the signal) but there is an
> Ethernet connection to my BT Hub. Not sure why, set it up a few years
> ago and can't now remember :-(
>

I would suspect that the internet connection takes priority over the
aerial where updates are concerned.
Thanks.

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wasbit

On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:

> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.

That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.

What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch the
box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC 1 HD
channel. After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch the box
back into standby.

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On 18/01/2024 14:45, alan_m wrote:
> On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:
>
>> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.
>
> That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.
>
> What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch the
> box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC 1 HD
> channel.  After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch the box
> back into standby.
>

Ah yes, oops, got sidetracked. 😳

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wasbit

On 18/01/2024 14:45, alan_m wrote:
> On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:
>
>> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.
>
> That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.
>
> What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch the
> box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC 1 HD
> channel.  After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch the box
> back into standby.
>

Removing the power from the machine didn't work.
I'm not sure how setting a timer is going to work if the EPG doesn't
populate, sometimes 2 hours, after the box is turned on, but I'm
willing to give it a try.

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wasbit

On 20/01/2024 09:47, wasbit wrote:
> On 18/01/2024 14:45, alan_m wrote:
>> On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:
>>
>>> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.
>>
>> That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.
>>
>> What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch
>> the box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC
>> 1 HD channel.  After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch
>> the box back into standby.
>>
>
> Removing the power from the machine didn't work.
> I'm not sure how setting a timer is going to work if the EPG doesn't
> populate, sometimes 2 hours, after the box  is turned on, but I'm
> willing to give it a try.
>

The recommendation is to use the timer to select the BBC1 HD channel
which on Freeview is probably broadcast at the greatest power from the
transmitter and possibly transmits the EPG in the best way.
This would get over the problem if, say, your reception was marginal on
some MUXs.

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wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 18/01/2024 14:45, alan_m wrote:
>> On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:
>>
>>> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.
>>
>> That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.
>>
>> What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch the
>> box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC 1 HD
>> channel.  After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch the box
>> back into standby.
>>
>
> Removing the power from the machine didn't work.
> I'm not sure how setting a timer is going to work if the EPG doesn't
> populate, sometimes 2 hours, after the box is turned on, but I'm
> willing to give it a try.
>

Have you rescanned the channels recently? Couldn’t hurt…

Tim

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On 20/01/2024 13:25, Tim+ wrote:
> wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 18/01/2024 14:45, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.
>>>
>>> That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.
>>>
>>> What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch the
>>> box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC 1 HD
>>> channel.  After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch the box
>>> back into standby.
>>>
>>
>> Removing the power from the machine didn't work.
>> I'm not sure how setting a timer is going to work if the EPG doesn't
>> populate, sometimes 2 hours, after the box is turned on, but I'm
>> willing to give it a try.
>>
>
> Have you rescanned the channels recently? Couldn’t hurt…
>

Yes, twice this year. :)

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On 20/01/2024 12:26, alan_m wrote:
> On 20/01/2024 09:47, wasbit wrote:
>> On 18/01/2024 14:45, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.
>>>
>>> That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.
>>>
>>> What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch
>>> the box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC
>>> 1 HD channel.  After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch
>>> the box back into standby.
>>>
>>
>> Removing the power from the machine didn't work.
>> I'm not sure how setting a timer is going to work if the EPG doesn't
>> populate, sometimes 2 hours, after the box  is turned on, but I'm
>> willing to give it a try.
>>
>
> The recommendation is to use the timer to select the BBC1 HD channel
> which on Freeview is probably broadcast at the greatest power from the
> transmitter and possibly transmits the EPG in the best way.
> This would get over the problem if, say, your reception was marginal on
> some MUXs.
>

Ok, understand the logic.
Set the timer for 2 - 2.30 pm so I can see if it works.
Thanks.

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wasbit

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 14:23:54 +0000, wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On 17/01/2024 12:20, Chris Hogg wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:13:30 +0000, wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the EPG.
>>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst others
>>> are empty.
>>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then back on
>>> which occasionally helps with some channels.
>>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an hour.
>>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>>> population up?
>>
>> Doubt if this helps, but I have a Humax HDR-FOX T2, which is always on
>> standby when I'm not watching the TV. The EPG is just always there,
>> instantly, the whole week, lots of channels, whenever I bring it out
>> of standby. Maybe it continuously updates when in standby. I've not
>> tried turning it off.
>>
>> But I have now, and the EPG is all there again, instantly. reception
>> is via a loft aerial (unplugging it kills the signal) but there is an
>> Ethernet connection to my BT Hub. Not sure why, set it up a few years
>> ago and can't now remember :-(
>>
>
>I would suspect that the internet connection takes priority over the
>aerial where updates are concerned.
>Thanks.

Well, turning off the mains supply to the TV, PVR, BT hub etc,
unplugging the Ethernet connection between the PVR and the hub, then
turning the mains back on after 30 seconds, reestablishes the EPG
instantly, for the whole week ahead. Maybe I should have left it all
off for longer, but ICBA!

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On 21/01/2024 12:39, Chris Hogg wrote:

>
> Well, turning off the mains supply to the TV, PVR, BT hub etc,
> unplugging the Ethernet connection between the PVR and the hub, then
> turning the mains back on after 30 seconds, reestablishes the EPG
> instantly, for the whole week ahead. Maybe I should have left it all
> off for longer, but ICBA!
>

If there has been a software crash of some kind just putting a box into
standby or deep standby doesn't necessarily cleanly reboot the software.
Totatlly removing the power and leaving the box this way for a minute or
two allows all internal power supplies to discharge. On switching the
power back on the box must go through a cold beet process.

This doesn't necessarily get over a problem if data on a hard disk or
memory stick is corrupted and that memory device is read again on boot up.

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On 20/01/2024 12:26, alan_m wrote:
> On 20/01/2024 09:47, wasbit wrote:
>> On 18/01/2024 14:45, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 18/01/2024 14:09, wasbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll try removing the power for 15 minutes & report back.
>>>
>>> That's not what the forum answer is suggesting.
>>>
>>> What it's saying is that you set up a timer to automatically switch
>>> the box out of standby for 15 minutes each morning and select the BBC
>>> 1 HD channel.  After the 15 minutes has elapsed automatically switch
>>> the box back into standby.
>>>
>>
>> Removing the power from the machine didn't work.
>> I'm not sure how setting a timer is going to work if the EPG doesn't
>> populate, sometimes 2 hours, after the box  is turned on, but I'm
>> willing to give it a try.
>>
>
> The recommendation is to use the timer to select the BBC1 HD channel
> which on Freeview is probably broadcast at the greatest power from the
> transmitter and possibly transmits the EPG in the best way.
> This would get over the problem if, say, your reception was marginal on
> some MUXs.
>

Set the timer, checked that the box turned on (5 minutes early) & off at
the specified times but The EPG still showed chunks of 'No Programme
Information' at 7pm. Channel 5 was bad but channel 4 was worse.
So far I haven't found a method to get the EPG to populate but thanks
for the suggestions.

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On 1/21/2024 10:39 AM, alan_m wrote:
> On 21/01/2024 12:39, Chris Hogg wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, turning off the mains supply to the TV, PVR, BT hub etc,
>> unplugging the Ethernet connection between the PVR and the hub, then
>> turning the mains back on after 30 seconds, reestablishes the EPG
>> instantly, for the whole week ahead. Maybe I should have left it all
>> off for longer, but ICBA!
>>
>
> If there has been a software crash of some kind just putting a box into standby or deep standby doesn't necessarily cleanly reboot the software.
> Totatlly removing the power and leaving the box this way for a minute or two allows all internal power supplies to discharge. On switching the power back on the box must go through a cold beet process.
>
> This doesn't necessarily get over a problem if data on a hard disk or memory stick is corrupted and that memory device is read again on boot up.
>

Because humans are human, it is always possible that the data poured
into the broadcast system, is not something the box is able to parse
and process at the moment.

https://hummy.tv/forum/threads/foxsat-epg-not-being-processed.10707/#post-163875

https://www.avforums.com/threads/media-file-server-bundle-for-the-foxsat-hdr-release-4-part-6.2024876/page-26

If the machine has a log visible on the EPG page,
maybe evidence of the problem is there.

Paul

On 17/01/2024 11:14, alan_m wrote:
> On 17/01/2024 09:49, wasbit wrote:
>> On 16/01/2024 15:47, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 16/01/2024 14:13, wasbit wrote:
>>>> Humax FVP 5000T set top recorder is often very slow to populate the
>>>> EPG.
>>>> Signal is from rooftop aerial not internet.
>>>> Some stations can be populated either fully or partially whilst
>>>> others are empty.
>>>> Have tried turning the channel guide off, waiting a minute, then
>>>> back on which occasionally helps with some channels.
>>>> Often the population can take 20 or 30 minutes & sometimes up to an
>>>> hour.
>>>> Is this the norm & is there anything that can be done to speed the
>>>> population up?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On one of my old boxes (not Humax) the problem was the amount of EPG
>>> to be downloaded and stored was causing some tardiness. The solution
>>> was after a scan for channels removing/deleting all the channels you
>>> would never watch.
>>>
>>> Question: does the Humax store the 7 day EPG to disk when it is shut
>>> down properly and then reads the EPG from the disk when powered back
>>> up? On other boxes this mechanism can/fail if the box is not shut
>>> down properly by switching off at the mains socket before putting
>>> into perhaps a deep standby first. The box needs to know its going to
>>> be switched off in order to transfer the EPG from RAM to disk.  If a
>>> box is switched on without the EPG it can take approx 5 to 10 minutes
>>> for it to fully populate.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know. Where would I find that information?
>>
>> The box is normally turned on & off manually using the button, (not
>> the remote) & very rarely turned off at the mains.
>
> The manual say the button is the standby/on button. The box takes less
> than 0.5W in standby.
>
> This (user) reply suggests that the epg is purged from the box during
> overnight housekeeping and the solution to your problem may be to set
> some form of timer to automatically switch to BBC1 HD for a short time
> each day to refresh the EPG.
>
> See first reply
> https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/fvp-5000t-no-programme-information-on-epg
>>
>

Update.
Have had the box powered on for 35 minutes at 2pm for the last couple of
days.
Seems to have helped with populating BBC 1 & 2 but ITV still has blanks,
channels 4 & 5 are particularly bad as are some of the higher number
channels.
These can take up to 2 hours before they populate.
Sod's law that it always seems to be the channels that I want to record.

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Regards
wasbit