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* Missing umrat.steve hague
+* Re: Missing umrat.Vicky
|+* Re: Missing umrat.Penny
||`* Re: Missing umrat.John Ashby
|| `* Re: Missing umrat.Philip Hole
||  +- Re: Missing umrat.Penny
||  `* Re: Missing umrat.Chris J Dixon
||   `* Re: Missing umrat.Mike McMillan
||    `- Re: Missing umrat.Chris J Dixon
|`- Re: Missing umrat.Serena Blanchflower
`* Re: Missing umrat.Jenny M Benson
 +* Re: Missing umrat.Mike McMillan
 |`* Re: Missing umrat.Nick Odell
 | `- Re: Missing umrat.Mike McMillan
 +* Re: Missing umrat.Sid Nuncius
 |`- Re: Missing umrat.Chris
 `* Re: Missing umrat.Linda Fox
  +* Re: Missing umrat.Penny
  |`- Re: Missing umrat.Vicky
  `- Re: Missing umrat.Chris

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From: stevehag...@gmail.com (steve hague)
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Subject: Missing umrat.
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 by: steve hague - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 11:56 UTC

I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
time. I hope he's ok.
Steve

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 by: Vicky - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:16 UTC

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:56:40 +0100, steve hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:

>I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>time. I hope he's ok.
>Steve
Last tweet 8/11/22. Shared apost about Larry the #10 cat.

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From: spa...@labyrinth.freeuk.com (Penny)
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Subject: Re: Missing umrat.
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 by: Penny - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:21 UTC

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:16:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> scrawled
in the dust...

>On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:56:40 +0100, steve hague
><stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>time. I hope he's ok.
>>Steve
>Last tweet 8/11/22. Shared apost about Larry the #10 cat.

Ah, he must be in a different time line - or should that be 11/8/22?
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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From: johnashb...@yahoo.com (John Ashby)
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Subject: Re: Missing umrat.
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 by: John Ashby - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 14:27 UTC

On 13/10/2022 13:21, Penny wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:16:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> scrawled
> in the dust...
>
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:56:40 +0100, steve hague
>> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>> Steve
>> Last tweet 8/11/22. Shared apost about Larry the #10 cat.
>
> Ah, he must be in a different time line - or should that be 11/8/22?

This is why I always write the date with the three letter abbreviation
for the month (except for May which I write out in full, for some reason).

john

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Subject: Re: Missing umrat.
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 by: Philip Hole - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:22 UTC

On 13/10/2022 15:27, John Ashby wrote:
> On 13/10/2022 13:21, Penny wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:16:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>> scrawled
>> in the dust...
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:56:40 +0100, steve hague
>>> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>>> Steve
>>> Last tweet 8/11/22.  Shared apost about Larry the #10 cat.
>>
>> Ah, he must be in a different time line - or should that be 11/8/22?
>
> This is why I always write the date with the three letter abbreviation
> for the month (except for May which I write out in full, for some reason).
>
> john
>
I prefer the ISO8601 protocol.
Today is 20221013.
The time is 202210131615.
Not very attractive but has the great advantage when filing; if this is
the start of the file name, all files will be ordered by date.
As eg plusnet provides every bill with the same name this is the most
logical way to rename them.
--
Flop

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:44 UTC

On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
> time. I hope he's ok.

I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
caused.
--
Jenny M Benson

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 by: Mike McMillan - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:30 UTC

Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>> time. I hope he's ok.
>
> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
> returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
> caused.

Perhaps we will be ‘Gillivered’ with umpteen threads groaning under the
strain in due course!;-)))

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 17:19 UTC

On 13/10/2022 16:44, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>> time. I hope he's ok.
>
> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail.  Apparently there are reasons
> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
> returning when he can.  He apologises for any concern his absence has
> caused.

Thanks, Jenny. That's a relief to know.

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

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 by: Linda Fox - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 17:34 UTC

Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>> time. I hope he's ok.
>
> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
> returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
> caused.

Do you know if he can do Facebook? Remember when I was unumratised I was
still on fb which was how I was able to ask some of you to pass on the news
about tnmf.

--
Linda ff

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 by: Penny - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:11 UTC

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:22:24 +0100, Philip Hole <news@theholefamily.org>
scrawled in the dust...

>I prefer the ISO8601 protocol.
>
>Today is 20221013.
>
>The time is 202210131615.
>
>Not very attractive but has the great advantage when filing; if this is
>the start of the file name, all files will be ordered by date.

I do the same with file names and/or folders, particularly for my photos.

>As eg plusnet provides every bill with the same name this is the most
>logical way to rename them.

Very arrogant, some of these big companies. They send emails from
'customer-service' or 'enquiries' with no company name visible on the list,
then attach a file with, as you say, the same name as all the others, and
sometimes the same name another company uses. There ought to be a law!

OTOH, I love the scammers who include coloured punctuation and emogis in
their subject lines for easy identification. I'm not aware of any real
company which does that.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Penny - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:14 UTC

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 17:34:56 -0000 (UTC), Linda Fox <linda.ff@ntlworld.com>
scrawled in the dust...

>Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>
>> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
>> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
>> returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
>> caused.
>
>Do you know if he can do Facebook? Remember when I was unumratised I was
>still on fb which was how I was able to ask some of you to pass on the news
>about tnmf.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't/won't do Facebook, but does tweet, as others
have said.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:47 UTC

Philip Hole wrote:

>I prefer the ISO8601 protocol.
>
>Today is 20221013.
>
>The time is 202210131615.
>
>Not very attractive but has the great advantage when filing; if this is
>the start of the file name, all files will be ordered by date.
>
>As eg plusnet provides every bill with the same name this is the most
>logical way to rename them.

My Avro online billing (which will no longer give me, or anybody
else, this problem) was similar.

Back when I was with them I wrote:

"I like the ability to download and save my bill statements, but
I'm not sure that you have though through all the logistics of
this operation.

The file provided is simply called "Monthly Statement". The
initial problem is that there is no file extension, so my
computer doesn't know that it can use its default .pdf reader to
open it, and I have to select it manually.

Secondly, when I download the following month's statement, it has
exactly the same name, and needs to be renamed in order to save
it in the same folder.

My experience with other companies leads me to suggest that you
could incorporate the date into the filename, resulting in
something of the form Statement yyyy-mm-dd.pdf, which would also
list in date order from an alphabetic sort."

They eventually did something like this, for a bit, but I then
had to write again:

"After some time a change was eventually implemented, and the
statements for October and November 2020 did include the date in
the filename, and a .pdf file extension.

Sadly, this didn't last very long, and by December you had
reverted to the current arrangement where the file for every
statement is simply called "pdf.pdf".

This seems to be a pointless retrograde step. Is this deliberate?
If so, why? Do those managing the system really understand how it
is used?

I would be delighted to discuss this with anybody who understands
the situation."

They responded with platitudes, said it would be passed on, but
nothing changed. I guess they were still fighting alligators.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.

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 by: Nick Odell - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:52 UTC

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:30:25 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>
>> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
>> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
>> returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
>> caused.
>
>Perhaps we will be ‘Gillivered’ with umpteen threads groaning under the
>strain in due course!;-)))

Almost like the old days!

I say almost: after all, nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

Nick

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 by: Vicky - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 20:41 UTC

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 20:14:42 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 17:34:56 -0000 (UTC), Linda Fox <linda.ff@ntlworld.com>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>>
>>> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
>>> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
>>> returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
>>> caused.
>>
>>Do you know if he can do Facebook? Remember when I was unumratised I was
>>still on fb which was how I was able to ask some of you to pass on the news
>>about tnmf.
>
>I'm pretty sure he doesn't/won't do Facebook, but does tweet, as others
>have said.

https://twitter.com/G6JPG_

You can tweet to him or message him on twitter, which is then private.

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 by: Serena Blanchflower - Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:06 UTC

On 13/10/2022 13:16, Vicky wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:56:40 +0100, steve hague
> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>> time. I hope he's ok.
>> Steve
> Last tweet 8/11/22. Shared apost about Larry the #10 cat.

No, he tweeted today, in response to tweets from Brenda Selwyn, late of
this parish, and me, on the subject of blood donation:

https://twitter.com/G6JPG_/status/1580520521711898624

--
Best wishes, Serena
No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. (Aesop)

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 by: Mike McMillan - Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:40 UTC

Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
> Philip Hole wrote:
>
>> I prefer the ISO8601 protocol.
>>
>> Today is 20221013.
>>
>> The time is 202210131615.
>>
>> Not very attractive but has the great advantage when filing; if this is
>> the start of the file name, all files will be ordered by date.
>>
>> As eg plusnet provides every bill with the same name this is the most
>> logical way to rename them.
>
> My Avro online billing (which will no longer give me, or anybody
> else, this problem) was similar.
>
> Back when I was with them I wrote:
>
> "I like the ability to download and save my bill statements, but
> I'm not sure that you have though through all the logistics of
> this operation.
>
> The file provided is simply called "Monthly Statement". The
> initial problem is that there is no file extension, so my
> computer doesn't know that it can use its default .pdf reader to
> open it, and I have to select it manually.
>
> Secondly, when I download the following month's statement, it has
> exactly the same name, and needs to be renamed in order to save
> it in the same folder.
>
> My experience with other companies leads me to suggest that you
> could incorporate the date into the filename, resulting in
> something of the form Statement yyyy-mm-dd.pdf, which would also
> list in date order from an alphabetic sort."
>
> They eventually did something like this, for a bit, but I then
> had to write again:
>
> "After some time a change was eventually implemented, and the
> statements for October and November 2020 did include the date in
> the filename, and a .pdf file extension.
>
> Sadly, this didn't last very long, and by December you had
> reverted to the current arrangement where the file for every
> statement is simply called "pdf.pdf".
>
> This seems to be a pointless retrograde step. Is this deliberate?
> If so, why? Do those managing the system really understand how it
> is used?
>
> I would be delighted to discuss this with anybody who understands
> the situation."
>
> They responded with platitudes, said it would be passed on, but
> nothing changed. I guess they were still fighting alligators.
>
> Chris

Octopus Energy are very helpful as their statements are named followed by
year-month-day number and instantly fileable without any further thought.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Mike McMillan - Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:41 UTC

Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:30:25 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>>
>>> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
>>> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
>>> returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
>>> caused.
>>
>> Perhaps we will be ‘Gillivered’ with umpteen threads groaning under the
>> strain in due course!;-)))
>
> Almost like the old days!
>
> I say almost: after all, nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
>
> Nick
>

It may not now …. But it used to be in the old days.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:58 UTC

Mike McMillan wrote:

>Octopus Energy are very helpful as their statements are named followed by
>year-month-day number and instantly fileable without any further thought.

Indeed they are. However, as they appear automatically by email,
I don't have to go and download them, so they can happily stay
attached to the email.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.

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 by: Chris - Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:21 UTC

Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/10/2022 16:44, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>
>> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail.  Apparently there are reasons
>> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
>> returning when he can.  He apologises for any concern his absence has
>> caused.
>
> Thanks, Jenny. That's a relief to know.
>

Certainly is! Thanks Jenny.

Mrs McT

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Linda Fox <linda.ff@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 13/10/2022 12:56, steve hague wrote:
>>> I wonder what's happened to JPG. He hasn't been hereabouts for some
>>> time. I hope he's ok.
>>
>> I've been in touch with Jpeg by e-mail. Apparently there are reasons
>> why he can't do newsnet just at the moment but he looks forward to
>> returning when he can. He apologises for any concern his absence has
>> caused.
>
> Do you know if he can do Facebook? Remember when I was unumratised I was
> still on fb which was how I was able to ask some of you to pass on the news
> about tnmf.
>

I don’t think he’s a social animal. Probably F’r’Us.

Mrs McT

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