"Daniel65" wrote in message news:t2ek1g$l1r$1@dont-email.me...
>
> We don't have Grand Juries in Australia

You ought to...

On 4/4/22 4:07 PM, dolf Boek wrote:
> We have a better process as Royal Commission ...
>
> On 5/4/2022 02:42, Byker wrote:
>> "Daniel65"  wrote in message news:t2ek1g$l1r$1@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> We don't have Grand Juries in Australia
>>
>> You ought to...
>
In the US we have The Supreme Court.

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Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
Why should I or anyone vote for them?
They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
>
Yes
>
>Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.
>
If you don't vote for UAP the other Lobbyist controlled oligarchies
Coalition, Labor, "Greens" will remain.
Their snout and trotters in trough instead of Clive Palmers.
Sounds like a breath of fresh air, go on, put your number 1 in their
ballot paper.
Give you a good nights sleep.
--
Petzl
If voting made any difference,
They wouldn't let us do it- Mark Twain

Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
>>
> Yes
>>
>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.
>>
> If you don't vote for UAP the other Lobbyist controlled oligarchies
> Coalition, Labor, "Greens" will remain.
> Their snout and trotters in trough instead of Clive Palmers.
> Sounds like a breath of fresh air, go on, put your number 1 in their
> ballot paper.
> Give you a good nights sleep.
>

Clive bangs on about our huge debt, that will take 250 years to pay off.
But he wants to cut fuel excise forever, and lower taxes for anybody
living >200 km from capital cities. Pretty easy to pick holes in his crap.

Byker wrote on 5/4/22 2:42 am:
> "Daniel65"  wrote in message news:t2ek1g$l1r$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>> We don't have Grand Juries in Australia
>
> You ought to...

But we don't have Grand Juries in Australia, so why is this crap being
posted to aus.pol??
--
Daniel

Nic wrote on 5/4/22 6:49 am:
> On 4/4/22 4:07 PM, dolf Boek wrote:
>> We have a better process as Royal Commission ...

>> On 5/4/2022 02:42, Byker wrote:
>>> "Daniel65"  wrote in message news:t2ek1g$l1r$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>> We don't have Grand Juries in Australia
>>>
>>> You ought to...
>>
> In the US we have The Supreme Court.

So do we, in Australia! And High Court as well.
--
Daniel

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

You could get real radical and try this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Australia_Party_(2013)

> Why should I or anyone vote for them?

No one should be that stupid.

> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

Don't forget what the did to the cat.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

> Yes

>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

> If you don't vote for UAP the other Lobbyist controlledoligarchies
> Coalition, Labor, "Greens" will remain.

Corse Palmer is nothing even remotely like an oligarch, eh ?

> Their snout and trotters in trough instead of Clive Palmers.

> Sounds like a breath of fresh air,

Nope, just another immense steaming turd.

> go on, put your number 1 in their ballot paper.

Not that stupid.

> Give you a good nights sleep.

I have that anyway.

On 5/04/2022 7:57 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

**Yep.

> Why should I or anyone vote for them?

**No one should. Understand that Palmer is only in politics to benefit
one person - Palmer. Palmer has form. Palmer cares only about enriching
Palmer.

> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

**Sure. Palmer has made a lot of money off the backs of his
long-suffering workers. Workers who have been screwed over by Palmer. He
can afford to chuck million of Dollars, advertising something. "Freedom"
is what I see.

Freedom from what, exactly?

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 19:02:29 +0800, Qld Nickel worker
<phony@sosueme.org> wrote:

>Petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
>>>
>> Yes
>>>
>>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.
>>>
>> If you don't vote for UAP the other Lobbyist controlled oligarchies
>> Coalition, Labor, "Greens" will remain.
>> Their snout and trotters in trough instead of Clive Palmers.
>> Sounds like a breath of fresh air, go on, put your number 1 in their
>> ballot paper.
>> Give you a good nights sleep.
>
>Clive bangs on about our huge debt, that will take 250 years to pay off.
>But he wants to cut fuel excise forever, and lower taxes for anybody
>living >200 km from capital cities. Pretty easy to pick holes in his crap.
>
Well he is on about value adding to our exports
Like turning natural gas into ethanol, possibly petrol, iron ore into
steel, etc.
He would be just another snout and trotters in trough, but would put a
scare into lobbyists and media.
--
Petzl
If in doubt kick them out!
Politician's are nothing more than a con game in insincerity!

Charlatanism is a necessary price of political freedom and if
a self-proclaimed politician, persuades others to believe in
a party which propounds, lack of sincerity or integrity on
the parties part, but is not incompatible with the parties
character or their beliefs, practices and observances and
being accepted by their voters, why not?

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!

On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 03:30:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
>
>> Yes
>
>>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.
>
>> If you don't vote for UAP the other Lobbyist controlledoligarchies
>> Coalition, Labor, "Greens" will remain.
>
>Corse Palmer is nothing even remotely like an oligarch, eh ?
>
Well he would be if he could be, but he isn't so he won't.
>
>> Their snout and trotters in trough instead of Clive Palmers.
>
>> Sounds like a breath of fresh air,
>
>Nope, just another immense steaming turd.
>
But a different odour of crapology
>
>> go on, put your number 1 in their ballot paper.
>
>Not that stupid.
>
"Arindam Banerjee"?
>
>> Give you a good nights sleep.
>
>I have that anyway.
>
What drugs you take?
>
--
Petzl
If in doubt kick them out!
Politician's are nothing more than a con game in insincerity!

Charlatanism is a necessary price of political freedom and if
a self-proclaimed politician, persuades others to believe in
a party which propounds, lack of sincerity or integrity on
the parties part, but is not incompatible with the parties
character or their beliefs, practices and observances and
being accepted by their voters, why not?

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!

On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 03:25:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
>
>You could get real radical and try this.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Australia_Party_(2013)
>
>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>
>No one should be that stupid.
>
>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.
>
>Don't forget what the did to the cat.
>
What?
Are they sickos like "Fran"
--
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.

On Tuesday, 5 April 2022 at 19:57:03 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

Thanks for all your replies.
My wonder is that the chap has no chance, so why bother.
Is it, like, an opportunistic B team for either major party to catch the undecided votes for preference?
(There are so many fringe parties, wasted votes, etc. that could be used.)
And then get payment in some form?
Or a genuine desire to have a third party? The Democrats do not seem to be around, so an alternative.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

>> You could get real radical and try this.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Australia_Party_(2013)

>>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?

>> No one should be that stupid.

>>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

>> Don't forget what the did to the cat.

> What?

Curiosity killed the cat, stupid.

> Are they sickos like "Fran"

Nope, they rule the world until curiosity kills them.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

>>> Yes

>>>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>>>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

>>> If you don't vote for UAP the other Lobbyist controlled
>>> oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" will remain.

>> Corse Palmer is nothing even remotely like an oligarch, eh ?

> Well he would be if he could be, but he isn't so he won't.

Bullshit.

>>> Their snout and trotters in trough instead of Clive Palmers.

>>> Sounds like a breath of fresh air,

>> Nope, just another immense steaming turd.

> But a different odour of crapology

And much more smelly.

>>> go on, put your number 1 in their ballot paper.

>> Not that stupid.

> "Arindam Banerjee"?

Too busy munching currys.

>>> Give you a good nights sleep.

>> I have that anyway.

> What drugs you take?

None, zero, nada, ziltch.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Qld Nickel worker <phony@sosueme.org> wrote
>> Petzl wrote
>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

>>> Yes

>>>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?

>>>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

>>> If you don't vote for UAP the other Lobbyist controlled oligarchies
>>> Coalition, Labor, "Greens" will remain.
>>> Their snout and trotters in trough instead of Clive Palmers.
>>> Sounds like a breath of fresh air, go on, put your number 1 in their
>>> ballot paper.

>>> Give you a good nights sleep.

>> Clive bangs on about our huge debt, that will take 250 years to pay off.
>> But he wants to cut fuel excise forever, and lower taxes for anybody
>> living >200 km from capital cities. Pretty easy to pick holes in his
>> crap.

> Well he is on about value adding to our exports

But never does anything like that himself.

> Like turning natural gas into ethanol,

Completely stupid to do that when those who want our natural gas want
natural gas. Ethanol is useless for power generation or heating houses.

> possibly petrol,

Makes no sense, much more viable to use the natural gas as it is.

> iron ore into steel, etc.

Makes no sense with a vast world over supply of steel.

> He would be just another snout and trotters in trough,but would put a
> scare into lobbyists and media.

Bullshit he would. He didn't the last time, didn't even show up in
parliament.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 16:37:05 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 5 April 2022 at 19:57:03 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.
>
>Thanks for all your replies.
>My wonder is that the chap has no chance, so why bother.
>Is it, like, an opportunistic B team for either major party to catch the undecided votes for preference?
>(There are so many fringe parties, wasted votes, etc. that could be used.)
>And then get payment in some form?
>Or a genuine desire to have a third party? The Democrats do not seem to be around, so an alternative.
>
More interested in supplying preferences to the Liberals for favours!
--
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 3:25:05 AM UTC+8, petzl wrote:
>
> Well he is on about value adding to our exports
> Like turning natural gas into ethanol, possibly petrol, iron ore into
> steel, etc.
> He would be just another snout and trotters in trough, but would put a
> scare into lobbyists and media.
> --
>
Did Palmer really propose that? Just another sound-bite that sounds plausible to the morons he is targetting. Creating alcohol or petrol from natural gas needs a lot of energy, so burning gas just to create something to burn later.
Gas from the well is separated into methane, ethane, propane, butane. Methane -> LNG, ethane -> chemical feedstock, propane+butane -> LPG. What we do with it now is most sensible option.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 18:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Falscher Bruce
<bruce56@topmail.co.nz> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 3:25:05 AM UTC+8, petzl wrote:
>>
>> Well he is on about value adding to our exports
>> Like turning natural gas into ethanol, possibly petrol, iron ore into
>> steel, etc.
>> He would be just another snout and trotters in trough, but would put a
>> scare into lobbyists and media.
>> --
>>
>Did Palmer really propose that? Just another sound-bite that sounds plausible to the morons he is targetting. Creating alcohol or petrol from natural gas needs a lot of energy, so burning gas just to create something to burn later.
>
Yes Palmer has critised Goverment for not doing this.
There is a shortage of iron ore, he believes we are the threat to
China in supply, we can raise the price.

Just expensive to build Ethanol to Petrol plant, very little energy
required, Ethanol to petrol is high pressure through a Catalyst
(molecular filter)
>
>Gas from the well is separated into methane, ethane, propane, butane. Methane -> LNG, ethane -> chemical feedstock, propane+butane -> LPG. What we do with it now is most sensible option.
>
Methane is the major component of natural gas, the other components
are easily separated
--
Petzl
If in doubt kick them out!
Politician's are nothing more than a con game in insincerity!

Charlatanism is a necessary price of political freedom and if
a self-proclaimed politician, persuades others to believe in
a party which propounds, lack of sincerity or integrity on
the parties part, but is not incompatible with the parties
character or their beliefs, practices and observances and
being accepted by their voters, why not?

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee wrote

>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?

>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

> Thanks for all your replies.

> My wonder is that the chap has no chance, so why bother.

He's ego tripping. That was obvious with the shit he got up to with covid.

> Is it, like, an opportunistic B team for either major partyto catch the
> undecided votes for preference?

Nope, it's just Palmer ego tripping.

> (There are so many fringe parties, wasted votes, etc. that could be
> used.)
> And then get payment in some form?

Nope, nothing he gets from running goes anywhere near
what it is costing him in advertising, even if he does get elected.

> Or a genuine desire to have a third party?

Nope, just ego tripping.

> The Democrats do not seem to be around,

Because they imploded spectacularly.

> so an alternative.

There are plenty of others like One Notion and the Greens.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee wrote

>>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?

>>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?

>>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.

>> Thanks for all your replies.
>> My wonder is that the chap has no chance, so why bother.
>> Is it, like, an opportunistic B team for either major party to catch
>> the undecided votes for preference?
>> (There are so many fringe parties, wasted votes, etc. that could be
>> used.)
>> And then get payment in some form?
>> Or a genuine desire to have a third party? The Democrats do not seem to
>> be around, so an alternative.

> More interested in supplying preferences to the Liberals for favours!

He has never got any favors from the Libs and would never preference Labor.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Falscher Bruce <bruce56@topmail.co.nz> wrote
>> petzl wrote

>>> Well he is on about value adding to our exports

>>> Like turning natural gas into ethanol, possibly petrol, iron ore into
>>> steel, etc.

>>> He would be just another snout and trotters in trough, but would put a
>>> scare into lobbyists and media.

>> Did Palmer really propose that? Just another sound-bite that sounds
>> plausible to the morons he is targetting. Creating alcohol or petrol
>> from natural gas needs a lot of energy, so burning gas just to create
>> something to burn later.

> Yes Palmer has critised Goverment for not doing this.

He is a fool who has never had a fucking clue.

> There is a shortage of iron ore,

Bullshit there is.

> he believes we are the threat to China in supply,

Bullshit we are.

we can raise the price.

> That has already happened.

> Just expensive to build Ethanol to Petrolplant, very little energy
> required,

Bullshit.

> Ethanol to petrol is high pressure through a Catalyst (molecular filter)

Bullshit. No one does it like that, for a reason.

>> Gas from the well is separated into methane, ethane, propane, butane.
>> Methane -> LNG, ethane -> chemical feedstock, propane+butane -> LPG.
>> What we do with it now is most sensible option.

> Methane is the major component of natural gas, the other components
> are easily separated

On 6/04/2022 9:37 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 April 2022 at 19:57:03 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> Is the United Australia Party the former Palmer United Party?
>> Why should I or anyone vote for them?
>> They are advertising heavily so that made me a bit curious.
>
> Thanks for all your replies.
> My wonder is that the chap has no chance, so why bother.

**Palmer has form. He wants the COALition to win, so his advertising is
primarily aimed at denigrating Labor and the Greens. He is trying to win
the balance of power.

> Is it, like, an opportunistic B team for either major party to catch the undecided votes for preference?

**No. Balance of power.

> (There are so many fringe parties, wasted votes, etc. that could be used.)
> And then get payment in some form?
> Or a genuine desire to have a third party? The Democrats do not seem to be around, so an alternative.

**Nope. Palmer is, like Trump, bent on destroying the status quo.
Fundamentally, Palmer wants to do business cheaper and with less tax
implications. He is a greedy cunt who only cares about himself.