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* Old laptop . . .RJH
+* Re: Old laptop . . .Theo
|+- Re: Old laptop . . .RJH
|`* Re: Old laptop . . .Raj Kundra
| `* Re: Old laptop . . .Theo
|  +* Re: Old laptop . . .Raj Kundra
|  |`- Re: Old laptop . . .Theo
|  `- Re: Old laptop . . .Raj Kundra
`* Re: Old laptop . . .newshound
 `* Re: Old laptop . . .RJH
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Old laptop . . .

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 by: RJH - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 10:10 UTC

Very rarely use a laptop nowadays, but I will be needing one to attach an OBD
USB reader to my car. I happen to have an old Atom based Samsung NC10 which I
think (looking at cpubenchmark) *just* meets the minimum spec (Pentium III
400, WinXP) of the reader. Couple of Qs:

If it doesn't run the reader software/hardware, what would you recommend as a
half-decent laptop for this purpose? Portability, availability of spare
batteries, and decent build would be my priorities. Budget say £200.

If it does work, I wouldn't mind shoeing in an SSD - just because I can, not
expecting much in terms of performance. What's the easiest way to clone the
existing SATA WinXP HD to an SSD? been well over a decade since I looked into
this, and a quick google suggests it's more art than science . . .

--
Cheers, Rob

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 by: Theo - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 11:01 UTC

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> Very rarely use a laptop nowadays, but I will be needing one to attach an OBD
> USB reader to my car. I happen to have an old Atom based Samsung NC10 which I
> think (looking at cpubenchmark) *just* meets the minimum spec (Pentium III
> 400, WinXP) of the reader. Couple of Qs:

That's probably OK. OBD readers aren't very taxing, although the software
can be a bit lazy.

> If it doesn't run the reader software/hardware, what would you recommend as a
> half-decent laptop for this purpose? Portability, availability of spare
> batteries, and decent build would be my priorities. Budget say £200.

Look at old Thinkpads, which are fairly bulletproof. Something like an X2?0
where ? depends on how new you want to go (X200 = 2008, X280 = 2018).
There's a large Thinkpad modding community - eg
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/
which should have info on spare batteries etc. You can even buy aftermarket
motherboards to upgrade old machines!

Or the machines garages use to read OBD readers are often Panasonic
Toughbooks. They can be a bit pricey though, even used.

I have some OBD software on a ~2016 9" Windows 10 tablet with Bay Trail Atom
CPU, which was £40 new. It's not the most responsive ever (particularly OBD
apps designed for mouse on the touchscreen), but it's nice and small for
using in a car. If that's a suitable form factor an upgrade might be a
Surface Pro 1 or 2 (*not* Surface RT) although the batteries are essentially
impossible to replace on these (have to unglue the very fragile screen).
There may be other tablets that are easier to service. I think there are
some Windows Panasonic Toughpads (avoid the Android ones) although probably
pricey again.

Theo

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 by: newshound - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 11:20 UTC

On 17/07/2021 11:10, RJH wrote:
> Very rarely use a laptop nowadays, but I will be needing one to attach an OBD
> USB reader to my car. I happen to have an old Atom based Samsung NC10 which I
> think (looking at cpubenchmark) *just* meets the minimum spec (Pentium III
> 400, WinXP) of the reader. Couple of Qs:
>
> If it doesn't run the reader software/hardware, what would you recommend as a
> half-decent laptop for this purpose? Portability, availability of spare
> batteries, and decent build would be my priorities. Budget say £200.
>
> If it does work, I wouldn't mind shoeing in an SSD - just because I can, not
> expecting much in terms of performance. What's the easiest way to clone the
> existing SATA WinXP HD to an SSD? been well over a decade since I looked into
> this, and a quick google suggests it's more art than science . . .
>
On SSDs, new ones usually come with a copy of Acronis that's tied to the
hardware. I've done a few and have never had a problem.

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 by: RJH - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 12:19 UTC

On 17 Jul 2021 at 12:01:20 BST, "Theo" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
wrote:

> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Very rarely use a laptop nowadays, but I will be needing one to attach an OBD
>> USB reader to my car. I happen to have an old Atom based Samsung NC10 which I
>> think (looking at cpubenchmark) *just* meets the minimum spec (Pentium III
>> 400, WinXP) of the reader. Couple of Qs:
>
> That's probably OK. OBD readers aren't very taxing, although the software
> can be a bit lazy.
>
>> If it doesn't run the reader software/hardware, what would you recommend as a
>> half-decent laptop for this purpose? Portability, availability of spare
>> batteries, and decent build would be my priorities. Budget say £200.
>
> Look at old Thinkpads, which are fairly bulletproof. Something like an X2?0
> where ? depends on how new you want to go (X200 = 2008, X280 = 2018).
> There's a large Thinkpad modding community - eg
> https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/
> which should have info on spare batteries etc. You can even buy aftermarket
> motherboards to upgrade old machines!
>
> Or the machines garages use to read OBD readers are often Panasonic
> Toughbooks. They can be a bit pricey though, even used.
>
> I have some OBD software on a ~2016 9" Windows 10 tablet with Bay Trail Atom
> CPU, which was £40 new. It's not the most responsive ever (particularly OBD
> apps designed for mouse on the touchscreen), but it's nice and small for
> using in a car. If that's a suitable form factor an upgrade might be a
> Surface Pro 1 or 2 (*not* Surface RT) although the batteries are essentially
> impossible to replace on these (have to unglue the very fragile screen).
> There may be other tablets that are easier to service. I think there are
> some Windows Panasonic Toughpads (avoid the Android ones) although probably
> pricey again.
>
> Theo

Excellent - many thanks. I think I'll steer clear of tablets - this sort of
thing looks to be ideal:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304023794196

(£130 Lenovo Thinkpad X240 Ultrabook i5 2.29GHz 8GB 500 HDD 12.5"LED
Windows10)

--
Cheers, Rob

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 by: RJH - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 12:20 UTC

On 17 Jul 2021 at 12:20:51 BST, "newshound" <newshound@stevejqr.plus.com>
wrote:

> On 17/07/2021 11:10, RJH wrote:
>> Very rarely use a laptop nowadays, but I will be needing one to attach an OBD
>> USB reader to my car. I happen to have an old Atom based Samsung NC10 which I
>> think (looking at cpubenchmark) *just* meets the minimum spec (Pentium III
>> 400, WinXP) of the reader. Couple of Qs:
>>
>> If it doesn't run the reader software/hardware, what would you recommend as a
>> half-decent laptop for this purpose? Portability, availability of spare
>> batteries, and decent build would be my priorities. Budget say £200.
>>
>> If it does work, I wouldn't mind shoeing in an SSD - just because I can, not
>> expecting much in terms of performance. What's the easiest way to clone the
>> existing SATA WinXP HD to an SSD? been well over a decade since I looked into
>> this, and a quick google suggests it's more art than science . . .
>>
> On SSDs, new ones usually come with a copy of Acronis that's tied to the
> hardware. I've done a few and have never had a problem.

Thanks - think I may well have scrubbed it (if it was there) but I'll take a
look.
--
Cheers, Rob

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 by: Raj Kundra - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 13:12 UTC

On 17/07/2021 12:01, Theo wrote:
> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Very rarely use a laptop nowadays, but I will be needing one to attach an OBD
>> USB reader to my car. I happen to have an old Atom based Samsung NC10 which I
>> think (looking at cpubenchmark) *just* meets the minimum spec (Pentium III
>> 400, WinXP) of the reader. Couple of Qs:
> That's probably OK. OBD readers aren't very taxing, although the software
> can be a bit lazy.
>
>> If it doesn't run the reader software/hardware, what would you recommend as a
>> half-decent laptop for this purpose? Portability, availability of spare
>> batteries, and decent build would be my priorities. Budget say £200.
> Look at old Thinkpads, which are fairly bulletproof. Something like an X2?0
> where ? depends on how new you want to go (X200 = 2008, X280 = 2018).
> There's a large Thinkpad modding community - eg
> https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/
> which should have info on spare batteries etc. You can even buy aftermarket
> motherboards to upgrade old machines!
>
> Or the machines garages use to read OBD readers are often Panasonic
> Toughbooks. They can be a bit pricey though, even used.
>
> I have some OBD software on a ~2016 9" Windows 10 tablet with Bay Trail Atom
> CPU, which was £40 new. It's not the most responsive ever (particularly OBD
> apps designed for mouse on the touchscreen), but it's nice and small for
> using in a car. If that's a suitable form factor an upgrade might be a
> Surface Pro 1 or 2 (*not* Surface RT) although the batteries are essentially
> impossible to replace on these (have to unglue the very fragile screen).
> There may be other tablets that are easier to service. I think there are
> some Windows Panasonic Toughpads (avoid the Android ones) although probably
> pricey again.
>
> Theo

Panasonic CF-19, which can be laptop or tablet.

It is used by all car diagnostic people. Core i5 2.6Ghz, 8GB,120GB SSD,
Touchscreen with stylus (finger operated) win10, new PSU £170 Delivered
to you. These are ex RAC, so lid is orange.

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 by: Theo - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:45 UTC

Raj Kundra <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:
> Panasonic CF-19, which can be laptop or tablet.
>
> It is used by all car diagnostic people. Core i5 2.6Ghz, 8GB,120GB SSD,
> Touchscreen with stylus (finger operated) win10, new PSU £170 Delivered
> to you. These are ex RAC, so lid is orange.

I wondered if you'd have something ;-)

What version of Toughbook CF-19? There appear to be 8 generations, from
2006 to 2017.

Theo

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 by: Raj Kundra - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:40 UTC

On 17/07/2021 17:45, Theo wrote:
> Raj Kundra <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:
>> Panasonic CF-19, which can be laptop or tablet.
>>
>> It is used by all car diagnostic people. Core i5 2.6Ghz, 8GB,120GB SSD,
>> Touchscreen with stylus (finger operated) win10, new PSU £170 Delivered
>> to you. These are ex RAC, so lid is orange.
> I wondered if you'd have something ;-)
>
> What version of Toughbook CF-19? There appear to be 8 generations, from
> 2006 to 2017.
>
> Theo

Mk6

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303858348009

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 by: Raj Kundra - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:40 UTC

On 17/07/2021 17:45, Theo wrote:
> Raj Kundra <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:
>> Panasonic CF-19, which can be laptop or tablet.
>>
>> It is used by all car diagnostic people. Core i5 2.6Ghz, 8GB,120GB SSD,
>> Touchscreen with stylus (finger operated) win10, new PSU £170 Delivered
>> to you. These are ex RAC, so lid is orange.
> I wondered if you'd have something ;-)
>
> What version of Toughbook CF-19? There appear to be 8 generations, from
> 2006 to 2017.
>
> Theo

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384122824567

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 by: Theo - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 20:44 UTC

Raj Kundra <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303858348009

The vehicle mounts on those look nice. If I had a van or a boat where I
needed to rack the laptop and charge it while driving around, they would be
quite handy. Some of them even let you have roof mounted antennas for the
GPS and LTE (I assume).

THeo

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 by: newshound - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:44 UTC

On 17/07/2021 13:20, RJH wrote:
> On 17 Jul 2021 at 12:20:51 BST, "newshound" <newshound@stevejqr.plus.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 17/07/2021 11:10, RJH wrote:
>>> Very rarely use a laptop nowadays, but I will be needing one to attach an OBD
>>> USB reader to my car. I happen to have an old Atom based Samsung NC10 which I
>>> think (looking at cpubenchmark) *just* meets the minimum spec (Pentium III
>>> 400, WinXP) of the reader. Couple of Qs:
>>>
>>> If it doesn't run the reader software/hardware, what would you recommend as a
>>> half-decent laptop for this purpose? Portability, availability of spare
>>> batteries, and decent build would be my priorities. Budget say £200.
>>>
>>> If it does work, I wouldn't mind shoeing in an SSD - just because I can, not
>>> expecting much in terms of performance. What's the easiest way to clone the
>>> existing SATA WinXP HD to an SSD? been well over a decade since I looked into
>>> this, and a quick google suggests it's more art than science . . .
>>>
>> On SSDs, new ones usually come with a copy of Acronis that's tied to the
>> hardware. I've done a few and have never had a problem.
>
> Thanks - think I may well have scrubbed it (if it was there) but I'll take a
> look.
>
IIRC on my last one the software was a download anyway. Presumably
Acronis sell a license to the drive manufacturer, and the "free"
software checks for a valid drive.

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