Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good compost
bin material?

On 01/08/2021 16:21, Andy Burns wrote:
> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good compost
> bin material?

Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
well. I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.

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Jeff

Jeff Layman wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good compost
>> bin material?
>
> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
> well.

I don't have one, and no mains available,

> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.

There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
ok ...

In article <imo0njFaaorU1@mid.individual.net>,
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>Jeff Layman wrote:
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good compost
>>> bin material?
>>
>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
>> well.
>
>I don't have one, and no mains available,
>
>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
>
>There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
>pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
>ok ...

I did that with many climbers before I got a shredder. It just takes
a bit longer.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 01/08/2021 19:41, Nick Maclaren wrote:
> In article <imo0njFaaorU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good compost
>>>> bin material?
>>>
>>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
>>> well.
>>
>> I don't have one, and no mains available,
>>
>>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
>>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
>>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
>>
>> There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
>> pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
>> ok ...
>
> I did that with many climbers before I got a shredder. It just takes
> a bit longer.
>
>
I have done that with a hedge trimmer on smaller stuff

> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren.
>

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On 01/08/2021 17:33, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good compost
>>> bin material?
>>
>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
>> well.
>
> I don't have one, and no mains available,
>
>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
>
> There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
> pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
> ok ...

OK for what? For composting, they are a bit big, depending on the
diameter of the hop stems. Out of interest, can the stems be split
lengthways easily? If so, that would really help composting.

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Jeff

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I have done that with a hedge trimmer on smaller stuff

The hop tendrils seem good at clogging the hedge trimmer.

On 02/08/2021 08:39, Andy Burns wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> I have done that with a hedge trimmer on smaller stuff
>
> The hop tendrils seem good at clogging the hedge trimmer.
>
ah. Hops. strimmer maybe?

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On 02/08/2021 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 01/08/2021 17:33, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good
>>>> compost
>>>> bin material?
>>>
>>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
>>> well.
>>
>> I don't have one, and no mains available,
>>
>>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
>>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
>>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
>>
>> There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
>> pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
>> ok ...
>
> OK for what? For composting, they are a bit big, depending on the
> diameter of the hop stems. Out of interest, can the stems be split
> lengthways easily? If so, that would really help composting.
>
An alternative is to run a rotary mower over the bits a few times.

On 02/08/2021 09:56, David Hill wrote:
> On 02/08/2021 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 01/08/2021 17:33, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good
>>>>> compost
>>>>> bin material?
>>>>
>>>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
>>>> well.
>>>
>>> I don't have one, and no mains available,
>>>
>>>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
>>>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
>>>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
>>>
>>> There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
>>> pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
>>> ok ...
>>
>> OK for what? For composting, they are a bit big, depending on the
>> diameter of the hop stems. Out of interest, can the stems be split
>> lengthways easily? If so, that would really help composting.
>>
> An alternative is to run a rotary mower over the bits a few times.

Possibly, assuming the OP has a petrol mower. But it would also depend
on the stems being not too woody, and probably under 1 cm in diameter.

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Jeff

On 02/08/2021 11:24, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 02/08/2021 09:56, David Hill wrote:
>> On 02/08/2021 07:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2021 17:33, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good
>>>>>> compost
>>>>>> bin material?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have one, and no mains available,
>>>>
>>>>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
>>>>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
>>>>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
>>>>
>>>> There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them
>>>> with a
>>>> pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
>>>> ok ...
>>>
>>> OK for what? For composting, they are a bit big, depending on the
>>> diameter of the hop stems. Out of interest, can the stems be split
>>> lengthways easily? If so, that would really help composting.
>>>
>> An alternative is to run a rotary mower over the bits a few times.
>
> Possibly, assuming the OP has a petrol mower. But it would also depend
> on the stems being not too woody, and probably under 1 cm in diameter.
>
My 14bhp Briggs and Stratton makes mincemeat of anything up to an inch.
Although I have cursed and sworn when it jammed on bigger stuff...

I use it to mulch the smaller hedge clippings
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Jeff Layman wrote:

> David Hill wrote:
> >> An alternative is to run a rotary mower over the bits a few times.
>
> Possibly, assuming the OP has a petrol mower.

It'd need the blades re-sharpening afterward from all the stones :-)

> But it would also depend
> on the stems being not too woody, and probably under 1 cm in diameter.

Last year's stems are quite woody, this year's are not, all well under 1cm.

On 02/08/2021 11:28, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
>
>> David Hill wrote:
>>  >> An alternative is to run a rotary mower over the bits a few times.
>>
>> Possibly, assuming the OP has a petrol mower.
>
> It'd need the blades re-sharpening afterward from all the stones :-)
>
>> But it would also depend on the stems being not too woody, and
>> probably under 1 cm in diameter.
>
> Last year's stems are quite woody, this year's are not, all well under 1cm.

can't you move them off the stones?

On 02/08/2021 01:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 01/08/2021 19:41, Nick Maclaren wrote:
>> In article <imo0njFaaorU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Andy Burns  <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good
>>>>> compost
>>>>> bin material?
>>>>
>>>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
>>>> well.
>>>
>>> I don't have one, and no mains available,
>>>
>>>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
>>>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
>>>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
>>>
>>> There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
>>> pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
>>> ok ...
>>
>> I did that with many climbers before I got a shredder.  It just takes
>> a bit longer.

Lawn mover makes a good shredder for items that are not considered as
wooden branches.

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alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 02/08/2021 01:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> > On 01/08/2021 19:41, Nick Maclaren wrote:
> >> In article <imo0njFaaorU1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> Andy Burns  <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> >>> Jeff Layman wrote:
> >>>> Andy Burns wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Should I assume the thick stems from wild hops are not very good
> >>>>> compost
> >>>>> bin material?
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you put the stems through a shredder? If so, they should compost
> >>>> well.
> >>>
> >>> I don't have one, and no mains available,
> >>>
> >>>> I put any thick stems through my shredder and either compost them,
> >>>> or, if the compost bin is already pretty full, just empty the shredder
> >>>> box on the flower beds to act as a mulch.
> >>>
> >>> There's not such a huge amount of them that going to town on them with a
> >>> pair of secateurs would be out of the question, if 4-6" pieces would be
> >>> ok ...
> >>
> >> I did that with many climbers before I got a shredder.  It just takes
> >> a bit longer.
>
> Lawn mover makes a good shredder for items that are not considered as
> wooden branches.
>
We have Stiga out-front mower with a flail deck as well as a more
conventional rotary one. The flail minces most things very efficiently!

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