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 by: Mattb - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:44 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 00:27:22 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:42:56 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:23:39 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen, was
>> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the case.
>> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was stopped earlier by Putin.
>> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or Japan.
>> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>> >> >> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>> >> >> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >No. I don't think so.
>> >> >> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>> >> >
>> >> >I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever that is.
>> >> I don't have a sect.
>> >You are not important. What you personally think is irrelevant. I was referring to the US sects, which is what I took you to represent. Unimportant and useless people can be representatives.
>> What do you believe is a 'sect' what are they called?
>> >> >> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so, perhaps.
>> >> >> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
>> >> >> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911 explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>> >> >> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil. Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to another.
>> >> >> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>> >> >
>> >> >You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so far. Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>> >> >> >> Not in ethics.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for ethics for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and divorces are the natural outcomes.
>> >> >> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>> >> >> Nope.
>> >> >
>> >> >They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or wrong based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower classes by the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
>> >> >They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and dictatorship of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a dictatorship quite fast
>> >> >Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the faith such as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
>> >> >
>> >> >> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics. Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>> >> >> >They are not Indian yet!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>> >> >> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>> >> >> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>> >> >> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>> >> >> >> >> pocket?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>> >> >> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>> >> >> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>> >> >> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>> >> >> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of his hotels.
>> >> >> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over - totally - quite recently.
>> >> >> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>> >> >> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet and what more can one expect from any potus?
>> >> >
>> >> >> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
>> >> >> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
>> >> >
>> >> >I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get nukes.
>> >> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave them
>> >> up.
>> >> > Chances of WW3 is now less.
>> >> >It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens will not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even worse viruses that could be set loose.
>> >> >Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed by my experience while touring Russia.
>> >> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar. Russia
>> >> doesn't have a free press. Then again to disagree with Putin will get
>> >> you 15 years in jail or killed.
>> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is allowed.
>> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.
>In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.


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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:53:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
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>
>> >A fine system, far better than US.
>> No.
>Yes. I would much rather stay in Russia than US.
>> >He is a Czar and Russia has different ways.
>> Putin is a useless freak.
>To US, he is much worse than that! He puts the spanner in their grabby works.
>But he is useful to the Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep State Devils.
>They are bursting out of their skins with joy, with the money from Putin's war. Stocks are booming in the war markets, if Arnab Goswami is correct.
>> >It works for most Russians and they like it this way.
>> Then why not have open elections.
>They have and they love Putin as Gorbachov says.
>> >All nations have their ways.
>> True.
>> >They need not follow other ways.
>> >USA gets along fine with Saudi, China etc. where ways are also brutal.
>> Yes, Russia wants to use its inhumane ways on other countries. Why
>> should not other countries treat Russia in a similar manner?
>They can try.
>Russia treats thirdworld countries very well, unlike the US.
>So Russia is their favourite.
>> >> >Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the civil war?
>> >> >Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>> >> >Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures, so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his job. At least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
>> >> What gods? Putin is a freak.
>> >I meant devils.
>> >Putin is wonderful, does his job, saves us from WW3.
>> No, NATO is a defensive alliance. No threat to Putin unless he
>> wants to conquer.
>What rubbish. NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.

WHY? Should have known as a Putin supporter you would also
support terrorist.

>They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled by Putin.

Liar.
>>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Cheers,
>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> >

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
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>On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:44:16 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:34:58 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen, was
>> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the case.
>> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was stopped earlier by Putin.
>> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or Japan.
>> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>> >No, US is a nation of pussies.
>> Some are. Yet Russia's defeat near Kiev shows what it is.
>They were beaten back by the new Javelin missiles.

Yes the Russians are such pussies. Terrorists pussies but pussies.

>Just a reverse.
>What they want, they got.

The world say the killings of civilians done by the scum of Putin's
army.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:58 UTC

Some drug crased drunken curry muncher claiming to be
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> spewed
reams of stinking curry muncher shit, all flushed where it belongs.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:58 UTC

Some drug crased drunken curry muncher claiming to be
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 by: Petzl - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 23:41 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:32:43 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:53:47 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:24:04 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:12:46 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:58:52 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>>>>same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says. The
>>>>>guy has dementia.
>>>>>
>>>>Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again.
>>>
>>> So true.
>>>
>>
>>Poison is Putin's favorite method, told he draws name out of hat to
>>select those that have told the truth about him. You think Rod Speed's
>>name is in that hat?
>>Won't be the first time Russian operatives have murdered a Australian
>>in Australia and gotten away with it!
>>So much for the ANZUS treaty?
>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS>
>>It provides that an armed attack on any of the three parties would be
>>dangerous to the others, and that each should act to meet the common
>>threat. It set up a committee of foreign ministers that can meet for
>>consultation.
>> ****************
>>Fell apart when the USA and Australia aided France to bomb the Green
>>Peace ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland!
>>Green Peace was sending the ship to stop nuclear tests in the French
>>owned pacific Islands!
>
> Not a fan of Green Peace. Those ships they use burn the most dirty
>type of fuel there is also.
>
Yep, they also have been or get infiltrated by dirty companies who use
them. Much like infiltration of political parties!

I do like Green Peace stopping the whale hunt though.
The whalers also use the most dirty type of fuel also
>>>>
>>>>The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA
>>>>Heres a short list
>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
>>>
>>> I have hoped that isn't true.
>>>
>>Well enter the "USA Mega Lottery®" and dream, dream, dream!
--
Petzl
If in doubt kick them out!
Politician's are nothing more than a con game in insincerity!

Charlatanism is a necessary price of political freedom and if
a self-proclaimed politician, persuades others to believe in
a party which propounds, lack of sincerity or integrity on
the parties part, but is not incompatible with the parties
character or their beliefs, practices and observances and
being accepted by their voters, why not?

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:35:37 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:06:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:25:44 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
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>>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:06:00 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:13:28 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The self preservation was way back when Stalin was trying to stamp
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> out, stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What has that to do with today?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's the evidence that they arent evil, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No that is not evidence of what they are today, but in the past.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have fun showing that they are evil today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Putin and they support the war of aggression being done by Russia.
>>>>>You are rather desperate to support that freak, Putin.
>>>>>>
>>>>Biden and Obama started this around 2013
>>>>
>>>>Yes Putin is maniacally murderous tyrant who thinks he is right
>>>>Enjoy WWIII and Joe Bidens crack pipe
>>>>Barack Obama once warned not to underestimate Joe Biden’s ‘ability to
>>>>f**k things up’
>>>>
>>>>Obama and Biden were trying to gain control of Ukraine after the EU
>>>>low balled Ukraine compensation for becoming part of NATO and decided
>>>>to accept Russia's deal of a $15 billion loan and to cut Russian
>>>>natural gas prices by almost a third.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The US forever changed the trajectory of Russia-Ukraine relations: The
>>>>2013 Russian trade deal was revoked, this pushed Russia into a similar
>>>>deal with China a few months later, and the following years were
>>>>filled with periodic announcements of Ukraine’s intentions to join
>>>>NATO accompanied with showy military exercises like the NATO-sponsored
>>>>‘Clear Sky’ event held in Ukraine in 2018.
>>>
>>>NATO would never invade Russia unless they attacked first..
>>>
>>The Russian's are bullshiting on their nuclear capability.
>
> They have it. Might be antiquated except for that hypersonic
>missile, but would be effective as the USA and the EU don't have
>effective counter to them.
>
What Russia say it can do is usually padded bull.
>
>>They have done since the end of WWII
>>They do not have the ability to react, which has to be done in seconds
>
> For land based missiles about 25 minutes if sub then 2 to 8
>minutes.
>
Yes if the weaponry on Russian subs is correct that is a concern.
Don't seem they can stay at sea for long though and easily detected
(noisy)
<https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-nuclear-submarines-were-sent-23508691>
https://tinyurl.com/y2v27xem
ussian submarines with the capacity to carry 16 ballistic missiles
each reportedly sailed into the north Atlantic last month. The
submarines were sent by Russian President Vladimir Putin just hours
after he put his nuclear forces on a "special" state of alert
following the invasion of Ukraine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Biden's Democrat control of US has forced Putin's hand to invade the
>>>>Ukraine, as the Democrat dirty tricks reappeared
>>>>
>>>>This would not of happened under President Trump
>>>
>>>Maybe.
>>>
>>No maybe about it!
>>Trump ended the Obama/Biden administration destabilizing of the
>>Ukraine.
>>Putin acted before Biden could bring it back, even while President
>>Trump was in office the Obama/Biden/Clinton's were trying to turn the
>>Ukraine against Russia. Hence the Russians shooting down a Malay
>>airplane using un-badged Russian troops.
>>
>>The Democrats love the money war gives their oligarchs.
>>Many of them RINO's
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Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.

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> >> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is allowed.
> >> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.
> >In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.
> But that Putin doesn't even want it called a war. Putin is an idiot
> and true pure evil. Putin also said the war was because Ukraine was
> Nazi. They have a Jew as president. It is Putin that is like the
> Nazis and a true idiot.

No, Putin says that if Ukraine joined NATO it could not be invaded.
So he has to make a pre-emptive move, calls in special operations.
Zelensky is a US puppet, serving western interests.
Those grabbing interests were foiled by Putin, so there is much squealing in the western media.
The Russians call thieves Nazis. Nazis stole the amber panels from the winter palace, and that seemed to bother our Russian guide the most for they have not yet been recovered.

> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so long as that is not treacherous.
> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his opposition usually are, being the tools of the West.
> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so very
> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that freak Putin.
It is a war for peace and security.
Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at your belly is an idea supported by most Russians.
> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
> >> No.
> >Yes, to thirdworlders.
> Third-world countries like Russia.

Correct, first time! Congratulations.

> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait, not a sewer
> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.

Russia gives; US takes!

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 02:02 UTC

On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 02:45:26 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:53:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
> >> No.
> >Yes. I would much rather stay in Russia than US.
> >> >He is a Czar and Russia has different ways.
> >> Putin is a useless freak.
> >To US, he is much worse than that! He puts the spanner in their grabby works.
> >But he is useful to the Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep State Devils.
> >They are bursting out of their skins with joy, with the money from Putin's war. Stocks are booming in the war markets, if Arnab Goswami is correct.
> >> >It works for most Russians and they like it this way.
> >> Then why not have open elections.
> >They have and they love Putin as Gorbachov says.
> >> >All nations have their ways.
> >> True.
> >> >They need not follow other ways.
> >> >USA gets along fine with Saudi, China etc. where ways are also brutal.
> >> Yes, Russia wants to use its inhumane ways on other countries. Why
> >> should not other countries treat Russia in a similar manner?
> >They can try.
> >Russia treats thirdworld countries very well, unlike the US.
> >So Russia is their favourite.
> >> >> >Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the civil war?
> >> >> >Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
> >> >> >Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures, so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his job. At least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
> >> >> What gods? Putin is a freak.
> >> >I meant devils.
> >> >Putin is wonderful, does his job, saves us from WW3.
> >> No, NATO is a defensive alliance. No threat to Putin unless he
> >> wants to conquer.
> >What rubbish. NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.
> WHY? Should have known as a Putin supporter you would also
> support terrorist.
No greater terrorist than NATO, US etc. so far as numbers of innocent victims go.
I do not support war.
Which means, a war to prevent far greater wars is like taking an inoculation to prevent death from some infection.
Putin says he had no choice. He is fully supported by Russians.
> >They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled by Putin.
> Liar.
Not at all, I am only repeating what Indian journalists say, quoting Putin.
Putin is doing the equivalent of the US attacking Cuba to prevent planting of nukes there, enforcing Monroe doctrine, doing regime change in some 80 operations worldwide since WW2.
US is very good at screwing up other nations, this time using a puppet comic.
> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Cheers,
> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> >> >> >

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On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 02:47:42 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:44:16 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:34:58 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen, was
> >> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the case.
> >> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was stopped earlier by Putin.
> >> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
> >> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or Japan.
> >> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
> >> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
> >> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
> >> >No, US is a nation of pussies.
> >> Some are. Yet Russia's defeat near Kiev shows what it is.
> >They were beaten back by the new Javelin missiles.
> Yes the Russians are such pussies. Terrorists pussies but pussies.
> >Just a reverse.
> >What they want, they got.
> The world say the killings of civilians done by the scum of Putin's
> army.
What crocodile tears from those who caused the whole horror!

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On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 03:58:24 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
claiming to be
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com>

No worries, Rod, I am Arindam Banerjee all right, the one and only greatest genius of all time, and sole god among losta devils.

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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>> >> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is allowed.

>> >> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.

>> >In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.

>> But that Putin doesn't even want it called a war. Putin is an idiot
>> and true pure evil. Putin also said the war was because Ukraine was
>> Nazi. They have a Jew as president. It is Putin that is like the
>> Nazis and a true idiot.

> No,

Yep.

> Putin says that if Ukraine joined NATO it could not be invaded.

What right has that arsehole to invade the Ukraine, fuckwit.

> So he has to make a pre-emptive move, calls in special operations.

And lost more of them in just 6 weeks than russia
lost in a whole decade in Afghanistan when russia
tried the same arsehole stunt there.

> Zelensky is a US puppet, serving western interests.

Another Putin lie. He just wants his country to join the
EU because it is doing a hell of a lot better than russia.

> Those grabbing interests were foiled by Putin,

We'll see...

> so there is much squealing in the western media.

From anyone who isnt a complete arsehole in fact.

> The Russians call thieves Nazis.

And only fools like you are actually stupid
enough to buy that stupid lie given that
Zelensky is a jew.

> Nazis stole the amber panels from the winter palace,

The Ukraine hasn't stolen a damned thing.

It was Putin who stole the Crimea from them.

> and that seemed to bother our Russian guidethe most for they have not
> yet been recovered.

Irrelevant to whether Putin gets to invade
the Ukraine, or kill lots of civilians, fuckwit.

>> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so long as that is
>> not treacherous.

>> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.

>> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his opposition usually are,
>> being the tools of the West.

>> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so very
>> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that freak Putin.

> It is a war for peace and security.

Bullshit it is.

> Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at yourbelly is an idea supported by most
> Russians.

Corse russia never ever does anything like that, eh ?

>> >> >A fine system, far better than US.

>> >> No.

>> >Yes, to thirdworlders.

>> Third-world countries like Russia.

> Correct, first time! Congratulations.

You are pathetic.

>> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
>> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait, not a sewer
>> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.

> Russia gives;

Yep, missiles and lots of its troops corpses, to the Ukraine.

> US takes!

Nope, gives Javalin and NLAW antitank misslies to the
Ukraine where they have killed 700 main battle tanks
and countless APC and lots and lots of russian troops.

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Some drug crazed drunken curry muncher claiming to be
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> spewed
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Lunatic Rod's pigshits flushed.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 05:11 UTC

Some drug crazed drunken curry muncher claiming to be
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> spewed
reams of stinking curry muncher shit, all flushed where it belongs.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 18:54:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> >> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is allowed.
>> >> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.
>> >In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.
>> But that Putin doesn't even want it called a war. Putin is an idiot
>> and true pure evil. Putin also said the war was because Ukraine was
>> Nazi. They have a Jew as president. It is Putin that is like the
>> Nazis and a true idiot.
>
>No, Putin says that if Ukraine joined NATO it could not be invaded.

Well would have made it much harder.

>So he has to make a pre-emptive move, calls in special operations.

Putin, is an idiot and so much like the old USSR, I also believe he
like Biden might have dementia.

>Zelensky is a US puppet, serving western interests.

Not really. Do you believe wanting to be independent of Russian
control to be only "western interests"? There is China if Putin
wants a good ass kicking.
'
>Those grabbing interests were foiled by Putin, so there is much squealing in the western media.

No, it is the murders and war crimes that is causing that.

>The Russians call thieves Nazis. Nazis stole the amber panels from the winter palace, and that seemed to bother our Russian guide the most for they have not yet been recovered.

How will he take back say Poland? USSR failed and many found
freedom so much better than any form of communism or tyranny.
>
>> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so long as that is not treacherous.
>> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
>> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his opposition usually are, being the tools of the West.
>> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so very
>> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that freak Putin.
>It is a war for peace and security.
>Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at your belly is an idea supported by most Russians.
>> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
>> >> No.
>> >Yes, to thirdworlders.
>> Third-world countries like Russia.
>
>Correct, first time! Congratulations.
>
>> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
>> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait, not a sewer
>> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.
>
>Russia gives; US takes!

How did the US "take" and what? One thing they did wrong was not
giving Ukraine good defense systems. Ukraine is or was a beautiful
country and wanted to join the EU, not so much NATO. They wanted to
live in peace. IMO. Ukraine's mistake was giving away the Nukes, the
USSR left.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 02:45:26 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:53:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
>> >> No.
>> >Yes. I would much rather stay in Russia than US.
>> >> >He is a Czar and Russia has different ways.
>> >> Putin is a useless freak.
>> >To US, he is much worse than that! He puts the spanner in their grabby works.
>> >But he is useful to the Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep State Devils.
>> >They are bursting out of their skins with joy, with the money from Putin's war. Stocks are booming in the war markets, if Arnab Goswami is correct.
>> >> >It works for most Russians and they like it this way.
>> >> Then why not have open elections.
>> >They have and they love Putin as Gorbachov says.
>> >> >All nations have their ways.
>> >> True.
>> >> >They need not follow other ways.
>> >> >USA gets along fine with Saudi, China etc. where ways are also brutal.
>> >> Yes, Russia wants to use its inhumane ways on other countries. Why
>> >> should not other countries treat Russia in a similar manner?
>> >They can try.
>> >Russia treats thirdworld countries very well, unlike the US.
>> >So Russia is their favourite.
>> >> >> >Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the civil war?
>> >> >> >Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>> >> >> >Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures, so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his job. At least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
>> >> >> What gods? Putin is a freak.
>> >> >I meant devils.
>> >> >Putin is wonderful, does his job, saves us from WW3.
>> >> No, NATO is a defensive alliance. No threat to Putin unless he
>> >> wants to conquer.
>> >What rubbish. NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.
>> WHY? Should have known as a Putin supporter you would also
>> support terrorist.

>No greater terrorist than NATO, US etc. so far as numbers of innocent victims go.
>I do not support war.

Your words suggest you only support a tyrant.

>Which means, a war to prevent far greater wars is like taking an inoculation to prevent death from some infection.
>Putin says he had no choice. He is fully supported by Russians.

How do you know have you asked and are they allowed to see doe
themselves since Russia banned non-government controlled news and
limited Internet..

>> >They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled by Putin.
>> Liar.
>Not at all, I am only repeating what Indian journalists say, quoting Putin.

Yes, I want the US to cut business ties with India. We have way
too much going on there.
Putin like Hitler, is good at bullshit.

>Putin is doing the equivalent of the US attacking Cuba to prevent planting of nukes there, enforcing Monroe doctrine, doing regime change in some 80 operations worldwide since WW2.

Sure he is and how many people did the USSR kill? 20 million of its
own people, and that is what you are supporting.

>US is very good at screwing up other nations, this time using a puppet comic.

They are very good at screwing up for 2 decades and have elected
inept Presidents that latest the worse. I admit moderates and
independents need to get more involved in the primaries and select
better leaders. The extremist have really fucked up the USA.

>> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Cheers,
>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> >> >

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:03:42 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 02:47:42 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:44:16 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:34:58 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen, was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the case.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was stopped earlier by Putin.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>> >> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or Japan.
>> >> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>> >> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>> >> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>> >> >No, US is a nation of pussies.
>> >> Some are. Yet Russia's defeat near Kiev shows what it is.
>> >They were beaten back by the new Javelin missiles.
>> Yes the Russians are such pussies. Terrorists pussies but pussies.
>> >Just a reverse.
>> >What they want, they got.
>> The world say the killings of civilians done by the scum of Putin's
>> army.
>What crocodile tears from those who caused the whole horror!

Besides quoting Putin what evidence do you have?

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >> wants to conquer.
>> >What rubbish. NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.
>> WHY? Should have known as a Putin supporter you would also
>> support terrorist.
>
>No greater terrorist than NATO, US etc. so far as numbers of innocent victims go.
>I do not support war.
>Which means, a war to prevent far greater wars is like taking an inoculation to prevent death from some infection.
>Putin says he had no choice. He is fully supported by Russians.
>
>> >They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled by Putin.
>> Liar.
>
>Not at all, I am only repeating what Indian journalists say, quoting Putin.
>Putin is doing the equivalent of the US attacking Cuba to prevent planting of nukes there, enforcing Monroe doctrine, doing regime change in some 80 operations worldwide since WW2.
>US is very good at screwing up other nations, this time using a puppet comic.
>
Get a proper news reader that wordwraps they are free!
There a also Free newsservers!
>
There is a Fakenews propaganda against Putin, using the same finger
prints they used with Trump,
Screen shots of articles
https://ibb.co/0sfZCrV

As Rod Speed has pointed out Ukraine was never about joining NATO.
They were trying to become part of the "European Union" only.
Russia did not want this,
The EU offered $828 million for aid to help them do so.
Russia then offered Ukraine a $15 billion loan and to cut Russian
natural gas prices by almost a third. Yanukovych canceled negotiations
with the EU and accepted Putin’s offer.

So Putin is lying also!
First casualty of war is always the TRUTH!

-- Petzl
None of this is a coincidence.
Joe Biden used the FBI to raid several journalists homes to find his
daughter's diary which accuses him daughter's diary which accuses him
of being sexually inappropriate with a minor.
https://tinyurl.com/yx9gne4c
This is the same Joe Biden that just
nominated a pedophile sympathizer
to the Supreme Court.
The same mainstream media that won’t report on election fraud and
irregularities, covid vaccine deaths and side effects, Hunter’s
laptop, or Biden’s naked showers with his daughter….had no problem
reporting on such “big stories” as Trump eating his steak well done,
ordering extra scoops of ice cream, or complaining about him golfing
for exercise once a week.
Our news is a propaganda machine and nothing else, never forget that.
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's
garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while
sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after
given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.

The wheels are coming off.
Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so
big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.
Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.
"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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On Friday, 15 April 2022 at 02:28:54 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 18:54:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> >> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is allowed.
> >> >> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.
> >> >In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.
> >> But that Putin doesn't even want it called a war. Putin is an idiot
> >> and true pure evil. Putin also said the war was because Ukraine was
> >> Nazi. They have a Jew as president. It is Putin that is like the
> >> Nazis and a true idiot.
> >
> >No, Putin says that if Ukraine joined NATO it could not be invaded.
> Well would have made it much harder.
Impossibly one-sided without nuclear exchange. Putin knew that Ukraine would be lost if it joined NATO. So he invaded before they could join NATO.
> >So he has to make a pre-emptive move, calls in special operations.
> Putin, is an idiot and so much like the old USSR, I also believe he
> like Biden might have dementia.
Wrong. From his videos giving press conferences he appears highly intelligent, aware and capable. Does not read out from a screen, gives good replies.
> >Zelensky is a US puppet, serving western interests.
> Not really. Do you believe wanting to be independent of Russian
> control to be only "western interests"? There is China if Putin
> wants a good ass kicking.
Zelensky was not under Russian control.
He was and is under western control. '
> >Those grabbing interests were foiled by Putin, so there is much squealing in the western media.
> No, it is the murders and war crimes that is causing that.

Who knows who did what crime.
All I know is that Biden wants Putin out, for that is what he said - as having a more pliant chap like Zelensky in Moscow would help the West in the never-ending grab that reached its height after the break-up of USSR. Which Putin fixed.

> >The Russians call thieves Nazis. Nazis stole the amber panels from the winter palace, and that seemed to bother our Russian guide the most for they have not yet been recovered.
> How will he take back say Poland? USSR failed and many found
> freedom so much better than any form of communism or tyranny.

Russians think Ukraine belongs to them. Poland was an enemy for centuries, and a reluctant part of Warsaw Pact. Again it is an enemy to Russia. Quite historic, their animosity. Sad. They should learn to be good friends, both are wonderful in their own ways.
It is US that is a tyrannical monster: full of lies, violence, greed, selfishness, meanness, lechery, pollution, jails, casinos, racism, bigotry etc.
Its tyranny lies in inflicting its vile culture or lack of it upon unsuspecting outsiders.
Russia is much more positive.
> >
> >> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so long as that is not treacherous.
> >> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
> >> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his opposition usually are, being the tools of the West.
> >> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so very
> >> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that freak Putin.
> >It is a war for peace and security.
> >Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at your belly is an idea supported by most Russians.
> >> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
> >> >> No.
> >> >Yes, to thirdworlders.
> >> Third-world countries like Russia.
> >
> >Correct, first time! Congratulations.
> >
> >> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
> >> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait, not a sewer
> >> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.
> >
> >Russia gives; US takes!
> How did the US "take" and what?

From India US took the top talent for generations, now. Used them for economic gain.
From Ukraine it took away peace and whatever wits they had by placing a puppet in charge.

One thing they did wrong was not
> giving Ukraine good defense systems. Ukraine is or was a beautiful
> country and wanted to join the EU, not so much NATO.

No problem with their joining EU, from Russia.

They wanted to
> live in peace.

No. They attacked the Russian separatists for 8 years, made life miserable in the Donbass, forced Ukrainian language upon the rest.

IMO. Ukraine's mistake was giving away the Nukes, the
> USSR left.

That was a condition for independence, along with other conditions such as neutrality.

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On Friday, 15 April 2022 at 02:39:44 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 02:45:26 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:53:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
> >> >> No.
> >> >Yes. I would much rather stay in Russia than US.
> >> >> >He is a Czar and Russia has different ways.
> >> >> Putin is a useless freak.
> >> >To US, he is much worse than that! He puts the spanner in their grabby works.
> >> >But he is useful to the Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep State Devils.
> >> >They are bursting out of their skins with joy, with the money from Putin's war. Stocks are booming in the war markets, if Arnab Goswami is correct.
> >> >> >It works for most Russians and they like it this way.
> >> >> Then why not have open elections.
> >> >They have and they love Putin as Gorbachov says.
> >> >> >All nations have their ways.
> >> >> True.
> >> >> >They need not follow other ways.
> >> >> >USA gets along fine with Saudi, China etc. where ways are also brutal.
> >> >> Yes, Russia wants to use its inhumane ways on other countries. Why
> >> >> should not other countries treat Russia in a similar manner?
> >> >They can try.
> >> >Russia treats thirdworld countries very well, unlike the US.
> >> >So Russia is their favourite.
> >> >> >> >Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the civil war?
> >> >> >> >Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
> >> >> >> >Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures, so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his job. At least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
> >> >> >> What gods? Putin is a freak.
> >> >> >I meant devils.
> >> >> >Putin is wonderful, does his job, saves us from WW3.
> >> >> No, NATO is a defensive alliance. No threat to Putin unless he
> >> >> wants to conquer.
> >> >What rubbish. NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.
> >> WHY? Should have known as a Putin supporter you would also
> >> support terrorist.
>
> >No greater terrorist than NATO, US etc. so far as numbers of innocent victims go.
> >I do not support war.
> Your words suggest you only support a tyrant.
I support good rulers.
> >Which means, a war to prevent far greater wars is like taking an inoculation to prevent death from some infection.
> >Putin says he had no choice. He is fully supported by Russians.
> How do you know have you asked and are they allowed to see doe
> themselves since Russia banned non-government controlled news and
> limited Internet..
Putin merely represents the Russian military, the government and the parliament.
He has been elected by popular vote.
In times of war control is done over news and media. Everywhere.
> >> >They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled by Putin.
> >> Liar.
> >Not at all, I am only repeating what Indian journalists say, quoting Putin.
> Yes, I want the US to cut business ties with India. We have way
> too much going on there.
I would love for all the world to cut all ties with US, leave it strictly alone as a pariah state.

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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Mattb wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote

>> >> >> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is allowed.
>> >> >> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.
>> >> >In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.
>> >> But that Putin doesn't even want it called a war. Putin is an idiot
>> >> and true pure evil. Putin also said the war was because Ukraine was
>> >> Nazi. They have a Jew as president. It is Putin that is like the
>> >> Nazis and a true idiot.
>> >
>> >No, Putin says that if Ukraine joined NATO it could not be invaded.

>> Well would have made it much harder.

> Impossibly one-sided without nuclear exchange. Putinknew that Ukraine
> would be lost if it joined NATO.

It wants to join the EU because it is vastly more viable
than Russia and would allow those in the Ukraine to
work anywhere in the EU if they wanted to do that.

Something many of them would want to do because
the Ukraine has a real problem with enough jobs for
the dregs of the Ukrainians.

> So he invaded before they could join NATO.

Yep, he is that complete an arsehole.

>> >So he has to make a pre-emptive move, calls in special operations.
>> Putin, is an idiot and so much like the old USSR, I also believe he
>> like Biden might have dementia.

> Wrong. From his videos giving press conferences he appears highly
> intelligent, aware and capable. Does not read out from a screen, gives
> good replies.

Yep, this dementia shit is just that, mindless shit.

>> >Zelensky is a US puppet, serving western interests.

>> Not really. Do you believe wanting to be independent of Russian
>> control to be only "western interests"? There is China if Putin
>> wants a good ass kicking.

> Zelensky was not under Russian control.

Yep, he isnt that stupid.

> He was and is under western control. '

Bullshit he is. He has enough of a clue to have
noticed that the EU works a lot better than Russia.

>> >Those grabbing interests were foiled by Putin, so there is much
>> squealing in the western media.

>> No, it is the murders and war crimes that is causing that.

> Who knows who did what crime.

Anyone with even half a clue with the worst of the war crimes.

> All I know is that Biden wants Putin out, for that is what he said

Corse no politician ever lies, eh ?

> - as having a more pliant chap like Zelensky in Moscowwould help the
> West in the never-ending grab thatreached its height after the break-up
> of USSR.

They chose to leave the USSR, fuckwit.

And are ALL doing FAR better than they did in the USSR.

> Which Putin fixed.

Bullshit he did.

>> >The Russians call thieves Nazis. Nazis stole the amber panels from the
>> winter palace, and that seemed to bother our Russian guide the most for
>> they have not yet been recovered.

>> How will he take back say Poland? USSR failed and many found
>> freedom so much better than any form of communism or tyranny.

> Russians think Ukraine belongs to them.

It doesn't.

> Poland was an enemy for centuries,

And the world moved on, just like it always does.

> and a reluctant part of Warsaw Pact.

Because even then they had noticed that the west works far better.

> Again it is an enemy to Russia. Quite historic, their animosity. Sad.

Nope, what makes sense given the russian invasion.

> They should learn to be good friends,

Not possible with an arsehole like Putin who keeps
trying to tell them what they can and cannot do.

> both are wonderful in their own ways.

Russia has always been fucked and still is.

> It is US that is a tyrannical monster: full of lies, violence, greed,
> selfishness, meanness, lechery, pollution, jails, casinos, racism,
> bigotry etc.

Corse nothing like that happens in Russia, eh ?

> Its tyranny lies in inflicting its vile culture orlack of it upon
> unsuspecting outsiders.

Corse nothing like that happens in Russia, eh ?

> Russia is much more positive.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken bigotted fantasyland.

>> >> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so long as that
>> is not treacherous.
>> >> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
>> >> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his opposition usually
>> are, being the tools of the West.
>> >> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so very
>> >> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that freak Putin.
>> >It is a war for peace and security.
>> >Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at your belly is an idea supported by
>> most Russians.
>> >> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
>> >> >> No.
>> >> >Yes, to thirdworlders.
>> >> Third-world countries like Russia.
>> >
>> >Correct, first time! Congratulations.
>> >
>> >> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
>> >> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait, not a sewer
>> >> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.
>> >
>> >Russia gives; US takes!

>> How did the US "take" and what?

> From India US took the top talent for generations, now.

Nope, they chose to leave, just like you did.

Tho in your case no top talent involved.

> Used them for economic gain.

Corse no one else has ever done that with voluntary immigrants, eh ?

> From Ukraine it took away peace

Nope, Putin did that, for decades now.

> and whatever wits they had by placing a puppet in charge.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken bigotted fantasys.

> One thing they did wrong was not
>> giving Ukraine good defense systems. Ukraine is or was a beautiful
>> country and wanted to join the EU, not so much NATO.

> No problem with their joining EU, from Russia.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken bigotted fantasys.

> They wanted to
>> live in peace.

> No.

Yep.

> They attacked the Russian separatists for 8 years,

Why should those immigrant arseholes get to break up the Ukraine ?

> made life miserable in the Donbass,

Because of what those russians got up to there.

> forced Ukrainian language upon the rest.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken bigotted fantasys.

> IMO. Ukraine's mistake was giving away the Nukes, the
>> USSR left.
>
> That was a condition for independence,

Bullshit it was.

> along with other conditions such as neutrality.

More of your mindless pit ignorant bullshit.

Russia got no say what so ever on their independence.

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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

> On Friday, 15 April 2022 at 02:39:44 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 02:45:26 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:53:14 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
>> >> >> No.
>> >> >Yes. I would much rather stay in Russia than US.
>> >> >> >He is a Czar and Russia has different ways.
>> >> >> Putin is a useless freak.
>> >> >To US, he is much worse than that! He puts the spanner in their
>> grabby works.
>> >> >But he is useful to the Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep
>> State Devils.
>> >> >They are bursting out of their skins with joy, with the money from
>> Putin's war. Stocks are booming in the war markets, if Arnab Goswami is
>> correct.
>> >> >> >It works for most Russians and they like it this way.
>> >> >> Then why not have open elections.
>> >> >They have and they love Putin as Gorbachov says.
>> >> >> >All nations have their ways.
>> >> >> True.
>> >> >> >They need not follow other ways.
>> >> >> >USA gets along fine with Saudi, China etc. where ways are also
>> brutal.
>> >> >> Yes, Russia wants to use its inhumane ways on other countries. Why
>> >> >> should not other countries treat Russia in a similar manner?
>> >> >They can try.
>> >> >Russia treats thirdworld countries very well, unlike the US.
>> >> >So Russia is their favourite.
>> >> >> >> >Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he
>> started the civil war?
>> >> >> >> >Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>> >> >> >> >Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security
>> measures, so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his
>> job. At least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
>> >> >> >> What gods? Putin is a freak.
>> >> >> >I meant devils.
>> >> >> >Putin is wonderful, does his job, saves us from WW3.
>> >> >> No, NATO is a defensive alliance. No threat to Putin unless he
>> >> >> wants to conquer.
>> >> >What rubbish. NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.
>> >> WHY? Should have known as a Putin supporter you would also
>> >> support terrorist.
>>
>> >No greater terrorist than NATO, US etc. so far as numbers of innocent
>> victims go.
>> >I do not support war.
>> Your words suggest you only support a tyrant.
> I support good rulers.
>> >Which means, a war to prevent far greater wars is like taking an
>> inoculation to prevent death from some infection.
>> >Putin says he had no choice. He is fully supported by Russians.
>> How do you know have you asked and are they allowed to see doe
>> themselves since Russia banned non-government controlled news and
>> limited Internet..

> Putin merely represents the Russian military, the government and the
> parliament.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantays.

> He has been elected by popular vote.

Only after jailing or having his opponents killed.

> In times of war control is done over news and media. Everywhere.

The west has no control, fuckwit.

>> >> >They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled
>> by Putin.
>> >> Liar.
>> >Not at all, I am only repeating what Indian journalists say, quoting
>> Putin.
>> Yes, I want the US to cut business ties with India. We have way
>> too much going on there.

> I would love for all the world to cut all ties with US, leave it
> strictly alone as a pariah state.

No one is that stupid, you rabid bigotted clown.

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Rodturds flushed.

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> >> The world say the killings of civilians done by the scum of Putin's
> >> army.
> >What crocodile tears from those who caused the whole horror!
> Besides quoting Putin what evidence do you have?

Go to the OP and click on the link of what Prof John Mersheimer has to say. USA is to blame.

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