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Re: USA to blame

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 23:16 UTC

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> >> >From India US took the top talent for generations, now. Used them
>>>>> for economic gain.
>>>>> >> Took them? Maybe they paid then and treated them better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They paid them their wages without having to give them their basic and
>>>> higher education.
>>>> That is theft.
>>>
>>> Then you believe the people are owned by the State of India? No
>>> wonder you support Putin.
>>>>
>>>> Doubt
>>>>> >> they were abducted. Maybe if India wasn't such a shit hole country
>>>>> >> they would have stayed.
>>>>
>>>> If they had stayed India would have been the world's greatest power,
>>>> much more than US.
>>
>>> Possibly.
>>
>> Not a chance.

> I believe you are right but don't like absolutes I can't prove.

That sort of thing can never be proven.

We do know that India has always been so fucked that it
couldnt even manage to avoid being fucked over by the
muslims, and then by the inhabitants of a tiny little soggy
little frigid island on the other side of the fucking world.

>>> Who knows,

>> Anyone with even half a fucking clue.

>>> I can't read possible futures.

>> Or even manage to work out who said what in here.

> LOL

Yep, that's all you warrant, for that reason.

>>> Maybe if
>>> India could remove its caste system it would be a better power, its
>>> love of gang rapes, or its religious violence. That or clean up the
>>> polluted Ganges.
>>
>> And provide dunnys so the buggers don't have to shit on the ground
>> in full view of everyone.
>
> True.
>>
>>> India has a few problems and yes, so does the USA.
>>> Also, notice some of India's news services are reporting on the war
>>> crimes of Putin.
>>
>> All of them are.
>
> Wonder what news sources Arindam Banerjee believes to be honest and
> unbiased.

The russian one, he actually is that stupid.

>>>>> >Of course they took them with bribes. India suffers accordingly.
>>>>
>>>>> Well, do you believe they should have been forced to stay as Putin
>>>>> would have done to his people?
>>>>
>>>> They were sent to study, and then return with better knowledge.
>>>
>>> They did study and learned enough not to want to go back. Did the
>>> State of India pay for them?
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>>> Instead they were given better jobs, so they did not return.
>>>
>>> They had that right.
>>>> Yes, India had a bad government which did not do enough. It was
>>>> influenced by foreign interests who did their best to pull down or
>>>> export talent.
>>>
>>> Always blame others, they do that in America also. Try taking some
>>> personal responsibility and fixing things.
>>>
>>>> Indian elites, principally the professors, are careerists who suck up
>>>> to the West.
>>>
>>> Maybe they just know that Putin's system really sucks.
>>>
>>>> Yes, had the brilliant people been forced to remain in India by diktat
>>>> they would have been forced to do good to India.
>>>
>>> Yes I can see you are a Putin supporter. You a terrorist?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >Singapore and China did not have this loss, so they prosper much
>>>>> better.
>>>>> China is communist, so the people may not have had choices.
>>>>
>>>> I find that China also becomes capitalist in West's eyes, when that
>>>> suits.
>>>> Basically they have their own system which works for them.
>>>
>>> Yes it does and what they do IMO within their country is for them
>>> to decide. What OZ does within it borders also. If Iran would keep to
>>> itself even them.
>>>>
>>>>> Singapore prospers because they have a high-tech industrial base and
>>>>> a
>>>>> good military. They are also smart in walking the fine line between
>>>>> Beijing and the US. Getting the best from both relationships.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike India, they have a meritocratic system which has made them
>>>> first
>>>> world, so no need to emigrate.
>>>> Indian system is anti-merit.
>>>
>>> India has problems and you just blame the west. Why not give all of
>>> India to Putin?
>>
>> He isnt actually stupid enough to want it.
>
> :-))

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 23:20 UTC

/Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>> >They should have done it peacefully, as in Czechoslovakia.
>>> >Now that was a great example, and not far away either.
>>> >But did they follow it?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >It is US that is a tyrannical monster: full of lies,
>>> violence, greed, selfishness, meanness, lechery, pollution, jails,
>>> casinos, racism, bigotry etc.
>>> >> >> >> >Its tyranny lies in inflicting its vile culture or lack of
>>> it upon unsuspecting outsiders.
>>> >> >> >> >Russia is much more positive.
>>> >> >> >> Almost choked on that bit of propaganda. What do you think of
>>> >> >> >> Australia?
>>> >
>>> >It was a UK colony and is now a US+UK colony. Not a Switzerland!
>>> >There was that dechucka guy here who was the perfect rep.
>>> >
>>> >> >> >More to the point, what do Australians think of US?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I trained with their military and they think well of the USA. The
>>> >> >> government may be taking a glass-half-full approach. They dislike
>>> >> >> China and China's support of Putin's genocide isn't helping
>>> there. The
>>> >> >> Marxists never liked the USA and don't really matter.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >There were massive rallies against Australian involvement in Iraq.
>>> >> I was against that war also.
>>> >
>>> >I am sure there are Ukrainians who want peace, but they are not
>>> represented as they have a US puppet imposed upon them.
>>> I believe most people want peace. I also believe most people don't
>>> want to live under Putin's rule. When Putin gets Ukraine will
>>> Moldova be next or Poland? To you, they should just surrender to that
>>> freaks will. Be a less than a colony to the great Russia and the new
>>> USSR.
>>
>> Putin never said he wanted the whole of Ukraine. Just those who wanted
>> out as in Crimea and the Donbass.
>> He has the support of Russians for this, not just his whim.

> I believe that was his original goal,

No evidence of that and no chance of achieving that anyway.

> he just forgot the great
> Russian army were wimps.

Just like you lot in Vietnam, Afghanistan etc etc etc.

>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so
>>> long as that is not treacherous.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his
>>> opposition usually are, being the tools of the West.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so
>>> very
>>> >> >> >> >> >> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that
>>> freak Putin.
>>> >> >> >> >> >It is a war for peace and security.
>>> >> >> >> >> >Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at your belly is an idea
>>> supported by most Russians.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> No.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, to thirdworlders.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Third-world countries like Russia.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >Correct, first time! Congratulations.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
>>> >> >> >> >> >> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait,
>>> not a sewer
>>> >> >> >> >> >> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >Russia gives; US takes!
>>> >> >> >> >> How did the US "take" and what?
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >From India US took the top talent for generations, now. Used
>>> them for economic gain.
>>> >> >> >> Took them? Maybe they paid then and treated them better. Doubt
>>> >> >> >> they were abducted. Maybe if India wasn't such a shit hole
>>> country
>>> >> >> >> they would have stayed.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Of course they took them with bribes. India suffers accordingly.
>>> >> >> Well, do you believe they should have been forced to stay as
>>> Putin
>>> >> >> would have done to his people?
>>> >> >> >Singapore and China did not have this loss, so they prosper
>>> much better.
>>> >> >> China is communist, so the people may not have had choices.
>>> >> >> Singapore prospers because they have a high-tech industrial base
>>> and a
>>> >> >> good military. They are also smart in walking the fine line
>>> between
>>> >> >> Beijing and the US. Getting the best from both relationships.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >From Ukraine it took away peace and whatever wits they had
>>> by placing a puppet in charge.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> That was a elected leader. Well liked by the majority of the
>>> >> >> >> people. How long has it been since Russia had a free and open
>>> >> >> >> elections?
>>> >
>>> >From what I hear, some 4 years ago when Putin was re-elected.
>>> LOL. What a joke.
>> Less than your Trump and Biden hoo-ha.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Then if not a puppet - which he is - he is certainly the
>>> stupidest leader of our time, to have wrecked his country by believing
>>> in US promises.
>>> >> >> Then you believe he should have just surrendered to all Putin's
>>> >> >> demands?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >To reasonable demands, yes.
>>> >> Well of China wants part of OZ will you say the same?
>>> >
>>> >If we sell well, why not? They already have lots of Oz property.
>>> OK
>>> >
>>> >> > Became a puppet state for Putin, and gave up what the EU
>>> >> >> could give culturally?
>>> >
>>> >What culture? If the EU is that good whey did UK leave?
>>> Not because of the culture. If Russia is so great, why did all
>>> these countries leave it and join NATO now why is the NATO alliance
>>> going to get new members?

>> Now that is a very good question.

>> Brief answers:

Stupid answers, actually.

>> Time magazine presenting a rosy picture of the West, very glossy and
>> enticing.
>> Ignorance of the West.
>> Corruption of Soviet elites.
>> Indians were much better informed about the Soviet and West, thanks to
>> non-alignment policies.
>
> I've been reading some of your news from Indian sources. Seems you
> might not be in the Majority.
>
>> We can now see how wise Indian leaders were to get the best from both
>> worlds.
>
> Don't know if what they are doing is good long term. American
> companies will be leaving.

Unlikely they care.

>> And how stupid Zelensky is.

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 by: Petzl - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 23:25 UTC

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:38:04 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 12:59:05 +1000, "Rod Speed"
><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 11:23:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 11:13:44 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:26:29 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 09:19:56 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:31:43 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry one article isn't evidence. Putin wants the old USSR backs
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> that can't happen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not saying Putin in northing but a tyranical arsehole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do, and if he takes his shirt off for pictures again please get
>>>>>>> the man a bra.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even with the photo-shop his steroid induced tits cannot be completly
>>>>>> hidden
>>>>>
>>>>> He looks disgusting
>>>>>
>>>> He has always been disgusting, a typical stupid arrogant Russian.
>>>>
>>>> A luckless Putin asks a lifeguard for some help with women.
>>>> The lifeguard suggests that he put a potato in his swim trunks.
>>>> However, Putin returns later and tells the lifeguard that women just
>>>> laughed at him when he did that.
>>>> “The potato goes in FRONT,” the lifeguard replies.
>>>
>>> That is good one.
>>>>
>>>> That is, the potato in the front of Putin's swimsuit was supposed to
>>>> improve his male sexual package, but instead, the potato in the back
>>>> told others that his swimsuit was full of shit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Rod Speed has pointed out Ukraine was never about joining NATO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, they were IMO. It was about them wanting to be more like the EU
>>>>>>> and having freedoms Russians don't have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The EU membership offered Ukrainians the opportunity to work outside
>>>>>> the Ukraine. Very popular with Ukrainians who had violent protests
>>>>>> when President accpeted the Russian counter offer.
>>>>>> The Obama/Biden government had their elected President Yanukovych
>>>>>> ousted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you prove that?
>>>>
>>>> Well documented but not by your fakenews media
>>>> <https://richardsonpost.com/worm/26039/the-us-is-culpable-in-todays-ukraine-crisis/?fbclid=IwAR037nMRm1t7fyf9KMZd-J_uojCKFSJFF8-xr3Tg4k8gvRQOi3KwKTQrC8I>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y8gvpvxv
>>>> Many know this story, but I’d like to summarize it as succinctly as
>>>> possible, using only primary and establishment media sources in hopes
>>>> that this article may be persuasive and shareable to friends/family of
>>>> all politics.
>>>> The goal is not to distract from Ukrainian suffering but to inform US
>>>> citizens of how their leaders often engage in harmful foreign policy
>>>> so that we may refrain from electing such leaders in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They were trying to become part of the "European Union" only.
>>>>>>>> Russia did not want this,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The EU offered $828 million for aid to help them do so.
>>>>>>>> Russia then offered Ukraine a $15 billion loan and to cut Russian
>>>>>>>> natural gas prices by almost a third. Yanukovych canceled
>>>>>>>> negotiations
>>>>>>>> with the EU and accepted Putin’s offer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then Obama/Biden had the elected Ukraine leader removed!
>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/WV9J6sxCs5k
>>>>>>>> US Intervention
>>>>>>>> A leaked phone call, believed to have taken place on January 28,
>>>>>>>> 2014,
>>>>>>>> between then US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US
>>>>>>>> Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt revealed that Obama-admin
>>>>>>>> officials were involved in a scheme to oust Ukrainian President
>>>>>>>> Yanukovych and replace his administration with Western allies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama is an idiot, as is Trump, and Biden. If Biden had armed
>>>>>>> Ukraine before the invasion. Then, if the USA had armed them after
>>>>>>> Russia took Crimea, it might have helped. Look what they have done
>>>>>>> with limited aid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only the fakenews paints Trump as a idiot and their proparganda has
>>>>>> influenced the thinking of many.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry his twitter account showed him to be an idiot.
>>>>>
>>>> Not if you actually read it
>>>> Ignore the fakenews account
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not reporting and still not reporting the fake election that put Trump
>>>>>> in and made it illegal for telling the truth,
>>>>>> Right now Elon Musk's bid for 100% of twitter has the fakenews and
>>>>>> democrat's in a spin, can't have a single person control a large
>>>>>> Social media, yet have the worst criminal in US
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, theh far left does seem to be having a fit. Hope he does it
>>>>> and makes twitter free again. I don't want to see it just go from
>>>>> leftist to the right.
>>>>>
>>>> I follow Elon Musk a bit
>>>> He loves stirring the shit with and on "establishment"
>>>> Moved out of California to Texas much to do with democrat bullshit!
>>>> <https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-texas-headquarters-move-from-california-officiallly-complete-elon-musk-2021-12>
>>>>
>>>> Don't see Musk as "right" but not "Left" either.
>>>> He owns 14% of twitter, the poison pill makes it probable he could
>>>> dump those shares, causing Twitter share price to drop to bugger all!
>>>>
>>>> This will possibly force existing share holders to sack the Twitter
>>>> Board!
>>>> Or you think shareholders would take kindly to a board with zero
>>>> interest in shareholders?
>>>> Twitter Share price chart whatch it dive, dive, dive, Tuesday?
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y65xxn48
>>>
>>> I don't think I own any twitter. Wonder if it would be legal for him
>>> to dump his stock and the buy it back after it fails?
>>
>>Of course he can dump it but it wouldnt fall if he did.
>
> I'm interested to see how the shareholders of twitter respond.
>
Twitter communist Board as part of the poison pill have put a hold on
selling their shares for 12 months by a rights issue dilution of
shares. Twitter’s plan expires on April 14, 2023,
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Well, it’s [the media] run by Godless Communists
who fear the religious more than anything,
as we don’t put the entirety of our faith in
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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Mattb wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote

>> >> >> >From India US took the top talent for generations, now. Used
>> them for economic gain.
>> >> >> Took them? Maybe they paid then and treated them better.
>> >
>> >
>> >They paid them their wages without having to give them their basic and
>> higher education.
>> >That is theft.
>> Then you believe the people are owned by the State of India? No
>> wonder you support Putin.
>> >
>> > Doubt
>> >> >> they were abducted. Maybe if India wasn't such a shit hole country
>> >> >> they would have stayed.
>> >
>> >If they had stayed India would have been the world's greatest power,
>> much more than US.

> I have no doubts.

Yep, you actually are that stupid.

> Indians do so well outside India.

Some do, plenty don't.

> If good people were in charge, of high calibre, theywould have made
> India much richer and powerful.

How odd that they didn't manage to do that before the europeans showed up.

> As it was for thousands of years,

Yeah, completely and utterly corrupt.

The only thing you lot managed was that magnificent invention, sutee.

Great way to deal with surplus mothers in law, she
goes on the funeral pyre, whether she wants to or not.

> till foreign invasions.

Which you lot were so hopeless you couldn't manage to repel.

>> Possibly. Who knows, I can't read possible futures. Maybe if
>> India could remove its caste system it would be a better power, its
>> love of gang rapes, or its religious violence. That or clean up the
>> polluted Ganges. India has a few problems and yes, so does the USA.
>> Also, notice some of India's news services are reporting on the war
>> crimes of Putin.

> Bad things happen as the elites of India are a mediocre lot, mainly
> because the system is anti-merit.

Actually because you indians are so utterly corrupt and hopeless.

> Giving all obnoxious Western thoughts about India the heave-ho, is the
> necessary first step.

The reality is that any indians with even half a clue
realise that the west works a hell of a lot better so
they piss off to the west, just like you did.

> Understanding India from genuine Indian sources is the next.
> Then finding a good, great Maharana to give the land a huge boost
> forward.

No such animal to find.

>> >> >Of course they took them with bribes. India suffers accordingly.
>> >
>> >> Well, do you believe they should have been forced to stay as Putin
>> >> would have done to his people?
>> >
>> >They were sent to study, and then return with better knowledge.
>> They did study and learned enough not to want to go back. Did the
>> State of India pay for them?
>> >Instead they were given better jobs, so they did not return.
>> They had that right.
>> >Yes, India had a bad government which did not do enough. It was
>> influenced by foreign interests who did their best to pull down or
>> export talent.
>> Always blame others, they do that in America also. Try taking some
>> personal responsibility and fixing things.

> I have done much more than my share.

We'll see...

> Like getting the likes of Mamata and Modi into power, with my online
> activity.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys.

They are not good but at least they have local support and not
> prey to foreign interests.
> And much else I have done, over the last 44 years.

In fact nothing.

> A very long story.

A steaming pile of turds, actually.

> So slowly things are changing in India.

>> >Indian elites, principally the professors, are careerists who suck up
>> to the West.
>> Maybe they just know that Putin's system really sucks.
>> >Yes, had the brilliant people been forced to remain in India by diktat
>> they would have been forced to do good to India.
>> Yes I can see you are a Putin supporter. You a terrorist?
>
> You a stupid piece of shit?
> So common, these days thanks to bad education and negative culture.

Yep. you are an absolutely classic example of that.

And your 'education' was actually provided by the west.

>> >> >Singapore and China did not have this loss, so they prosper much
>> better.
>> >> China is communist, so the people may not have had choices.
>> >
>> >I find that China also becomes capitalist in West's eyes, when that
>> suits.
>> >Basically they have their own system which works for them.
>
>> Yes it does and what they do IMO within their country is for them
>> to decide. What OZ does within it borders also. If Iran would keep to
>> itself even them.
>> >
>> >> Singapore prospers because they have a high-tech industrial base and
>> a
>> >> good military. They are also smart in walking the fine line between
>> >> Beijing and the US. Getting the best from both relationships.
>> >
>> >Unlike India, they have a meritocratic system which has made them
>> first world, so no need to emigrate.
>> >Indian system is anti-merit.
>> India has problems and you just blame the west. Why not give all of
>> India to Putin?
>
> Putin would want me to be another Putin, or Xi, and thus lead India to
> greatness.

Even Putin isnt actually stupid enough to believe you could do that.

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 09:09:09 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Putin just made NATO more powerful.
>
>>> That is true. That evil thing for nuclear war has become stronger.
>
>> True and I believe Putin is unbalanced enough to start one thinking
>> Biden won't respond.
>
>I doubt he is that stupid. It's pure bluff, stupid.
>
Not sure who pushes the Russian Nuke button, Putin?
With the US it F**K Joe Biden
Both are suicidal!
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Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>> >What culture? If the EU is that good whey did UK leave?
>> Not because of the culture. If Russia is so great, why did all
>> these countries leave it and join NATO now why is the NATO alliance
>> going to get new members? Maybe countries fear being the next
>> Ukraine.
>> >Will they want destroyed states like Ukraine to join?
>> A few more are joining, even Sweden, all because of what Putin is
>> doing in Ukraine.

> Maybe.

Yep, Putin has shot himself in the foot, yet again.

>> >They did not want Turkey.
>> Even Turkey is against Putin's aggression.

> Who is not. Point is according to Prof. Mearsheimer it is USA that is
> the cause of Putin's aggression.

Just because that fool stupidly claims something...

>> >If Ukraine got partitioned peacefully they would have got a good
>> chance to join.
>> Who is that freak Putin to decide this? You want or need to divide
>> Ukraine go to the UN, or let the citizens of Ukraine vote on it. That
>> freak isn't all-powerful.

> The Ukrainians should have divided Ukraine peacefully.

They aren't that stupid.

> Instead they became patsies.

Instead they told Putin to go and fuck himself and have
killed more of his than russia lost in a whole 10 years
in Afghanistan and sank the Moskva, the flagship of
the Black Sea fleet and the Oska, a landing ship.

>> Putin just made NATO more powerful.
>
> That is true. That evil thing for nuclear war has become stronger.

Due to Putin's actions.

>> >> >He could have done an India, got non-aligned, and benefited like
>> India did from both sides.

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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>> >They should have done it peacefully, as in Czechoslovakia.
>> >Now that was a great example, and not far away either.
>> >But did they follow it?
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >It is US that is a tyrannical monster: full of lies,
>> violence, greed, selfishness, meanness, lechery, pollution, jails,
>> casinos, racism, bigotry etc.
>> >> >> >> >Its tyranny lies in inflicting its vile culture or lack of it
>> upon unsuspecting outsiders.
>> >> >> >> >Russia is much more positive.
>> >> >> >> Almost choked on that bit of propaganda. What do you think of
>> >> >> >> Australia?
>> >
>> >It was a UK colony and is now a US+UK colony. Not a Switzerland!
>> >There was that dechucka guy here who was the perfect rep.
>> >
>> >> >> >More to the point, what do Australians think of US?
>> >> >
>> >> >> I trained with their military and they think well of the USA. The
>> >> >> government may be taking a glass-half-full approach. They dislike
>> >> >> China and China's support of Putin's genocide isn't helping
>> there. The
>> >> >> Marxists never liked the USA and don't really matter.
>> >> >
>> >> >There were massive rallies against Australian involvement in Iraq.
>> >> I was against that war also.
>> >
>> >I am sure there are Ukrainians who want peace, but they are not
>> represented as they have a US puppet imposed upon them.
>> I believe most people want peace. I also believe most people don't
>> want to live under Putin's rule. When Putin gets Ukraine will
>> Moldova be next or Poland? To you, they should just surrender to that
>> freaks will. Be a less than a colony to the great Russia and the new
>> USSR.

> Putin never said he wanted the whole of Ukraine.

Putin said he wasn't going to invade, so nothing he says can be believed.

> Just those who wanted out as in Crimea and the Donbass.

> He has the support of Russians for this, not just his whim.

Only because he fed them lies thru his control of russian media.

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so
>> long as that is not treacherous.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his
>> opposition usually are, being the tools of the West.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so
>> very
>> >> >> >> >> >> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that freak
>> Putin.
>> >> >> >> >> >It is a war for peace and security.
>> >> >> >> >> >Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at your belly is an idea
>> supported by most Russians.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> No.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, to thirdworlders.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Third-world countries like Russia.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Correct, first time! Congratulations.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
>> >> >> >> >> >> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait,
>> not a sewer
>> >> >> >> >> >> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Russia gives; US takes!
>> >> >> >> >> How did the US "take" and what?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >From India US took the top talent for generations, now. Used
>> them for economic gain.
>> >> >> >> Took them? Maybe they paid then and treated them better. Doubt
>> >> >> >> they were abducted. Maybe if India wasn't such a shit hole
>> country
>> >> >> >> they would have stayed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Of course they took them with bribes. India suffers accordingly.
>> >> >> Well, do you believe they should have been forced to stay as Putin
>> >> >> would have done to his people?
>> >> >> >Singapore and China did not have this loss, so they prosper much
>> better.
>> >> >> China is communist, so the people may not have had choices.
>> >> >> Singapore prospers because they have a high-tech industrial base
>> and a
>> >> >> good military. They are also smart in walking the fine line
>> between
>> >> >> Beijing and the US. Getting the best from both relationships.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >From Ukraine it took away peace and whatever wits they had by
>> placing a puppet in charge.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> That was a elected leader. Well liked by the majority of the
>> >> >> >> people. How long has it been since Russia had a free and open
>> >> >> >> elections?
>> >
>> >From what I hear, some 4 years ago when Putin was re-elected.
>> LOL. What a joke.
> Less than your Trump and Biden hoo-ha.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Then if not a puppet - which he is - he is certainly the
>> stupidest leader of our time, to have wrecked his country by believing
>> in US promises.
>> >> >> Then you believe he should have just surrendered to all Putin's
>> >> >> demands?
>> >> >
>> >> >To reasonable demands, yes.
>> >> Well of China wants part of OZ will you say the same?
>> >
>> >If we sell well, why not? They already have lots of Oz property.
>> OK
>> >
>> >> > Became a puppet state for Putin, and gave up what the EU
>> >> >> could give culturally?
>> >
>> >What culture? If the EU is that good whey did UK leave?
>> Not because of the culture. If Russia is so great, why did all
>> these countries leave it and join NATO now why is the NATO alliance
>> going to get new members?

> Now that is a very good question.
> Brief answers:

> Time magazine presenting a rosy picture of the West, very glossy and
> enticing.

They don't read Time, fuckwit.

They do watch western media and had noticed how much
better the west works than the USSR, so they made an
obscene gesture in the general direction of russia and
declared independence.

> Ignorance of the West.

Nope, they knew that the west worked FAR better.

> Corruption of Soviet elites.

Senility, actually until Gorby managed to rule the roost.

> Indians were much better informed about the Soviet and West,

And all those with even half a clue pissed off to the west instead of
russia.

> thanks to non-alignment policies.

Nope, thanks to western media.

> We can now see how wise Indian leaderswere to get the best from both
> worlds.

Didn't happen and you lot didnt manage anything
even remotely like what China managed.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 23:46 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>> But Zelensky is an ignorant fool.

>>> Did not study,

>> Another of your bare faced pig ignorant lies.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy#Early_life

>>> knows nothing about world politics, so is an useful puppet.

>> He's no puppet, liar.

> Got to where he is by being funny
> https://youtu.be/AhLWKebi-Uo

Nope, got where he is by deciding to go into politics.

>>> Nations suffer when useless people are in charge.

>> Yep, India proves that in spades.

> But Arindam Banerjee thinks he's clever?

And even Telstra noticed that he is actually completely stupid and gave
him the bums rush, right out the door onto his lard curry muncher arse.

> https://youtu.be/g3tBK55iFW4
> Dean Martin & Goldie Hawn - Smart People?

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 23:48 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Putin just made NATO more powerful.

>>>> That is true. That evil thing for nuclear war has become stronger.

>>> True and I believe Putin is unbalanced enough to start one thinking
>>> Biden won't respond.

>> I doubt he is that stupid. It's pure bluff, stupid.

> Not sure who pushes the Russian Nuke button, Putin?

Yep. But there isnt a nuke button to push in russia.

> With the US it F**K Joe Biden

> Both are suicidal!

Nope, neither is that stupid.

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> So as expected they ignore my brief proof of the FLT! \
Proof and comments, indicating acceptance.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5686846731343077&set=a.3856470274380741&type=3&comment_id=5715352665159150&reply_comment_id=5717829131578170&force_theater=true&notif_id=1650063854713120&notif_t=photo_comment&ref=notif

More in sci.math where it has passed global notice with no objections.

>
> heh-heh

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On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 09:06:06 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:04:05 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Putin never said he wanted the whole of Ukraine. Just those who wanted out as in Crimea and the Donbass.
> >He has the support of Russians for this, not just his whim.
> >
> Arindam Banerjee thinks he is smart believes
> "Russia will not invade Ukraine" Putin

Putin is a politican, not a saint.
> --
> Petzl
> IN A WORLD OF PROPAGANDA, THE TRUTH IS ALWAYS A CONSPIRACY.

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On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 09:07:36 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
his usual crap, now diarrheal in quality.

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Some drug crazed drunken curry muncher claiming to be
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> spewed
reams of stinking curry muncher shit, all flushed where it belongs.

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Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

> Are you Sudras or Untouchable?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banerjee

> I'm betting Sudras wants to be like Putin,
> who if of India would be an Untouchable.

You just lost that bet, you can pay using PayPal.

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> >> >What culture? If the EU is that good whey did UK leave?
> >> Not because of the culture. If Russia is so great, why did all
> >> these countries leave it and join NATO now why is the NATO alliance
> >> going to get new members?
> >
> >Now that is a very good question.
> >Brief answers:
> >Time magazine presenting a rosy picture of the West, very glossy and enticing.
> >Ignorance of the West.
> >Corruption of Soviet elites.
> >Indians were much better informed about the Soviet and West, thanks to non-alignment policies.
> I've been reading some of your news from Indian sources. Seems you
> might not be in the Majority.
Most Indian news sources are funded by the West.
I go by what my friends think.
> >We can now see how wise Indian leaders were to get the best from both worlds.
> Don't know if what they are doing is good long term. American
> companies will be leaving.
Good, good.
> >And how stupid Zelensky is.

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On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 09:32:13 UTC+10, Rod Speed

aimed itself up at the fan, and,
phew!
Needed a fireman's hose, this time.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 02:09 UTC

Some drug crazed drunken curry muncher claiming to be
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> spewed
reams of stinking curry muncher shit, all flushed where it belongs.

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 by: Mattb - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 04:22 UTC

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:41:50 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> >> >What culture? If the EU is that good whey did UK leave?
>> >> Not because of the culture. If Russia is so great, why did all
>> >> these countries leave it and join NATO now why is the NATO alliance
>> >> going to get new members?
>> >
>> >Now that is a very good question.
>> >Brief answers:
>> >Time magazine presenting a rosy picture of the West, very glossy and enticing.
>> >Ignorance of the West.
>> >Corruption of Soviet elites.
>> >Indians were much better informed about the Soviet and West, thanks to non-alignment policies.
>> I've been reading some of your news from Indian sources. Seems you
>> might not be in the Majority.
>Most Indian news sources are funded by the West.
>I go by what my friends think.

Then you don't know that what the News is saying is false because
you have no first hand witnesses.

Tell me are thee any news sources you trust?

>> >We can now see how wise Indian leaders were to get the best from both worlds.
>> Don't know if what they are doing is good long term. American
>> companies will be leaving.
>Good, good.
>> >And how stupid Zelensky is.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:50:20 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:35:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 05:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> The USA does about 150 billion a year with India and Russia does
>>>>>> about 3 to 8 billion. I'm sure there are countries that would spit on
>>>>>> India rather than lose US business. I'm sure there are many in India
>>>>>> that would spit on you for even suggesting it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though I do believe the US companies should start looking for
>>>>>> alternatives to India with there support of Putin and genocide.
>>>>>>
>>>>> India along with Europe don't want to lose Russian cheap energy.
>>>>
>>>> Don't think it cost differently that the Middle East.
>>>
>>>You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>>
>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>>
>Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
>Very bad polluter. \

If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.

>That said they do produce some best quality oil but a reluctance for
>importers to buy it so it is being sold at discounts.
>New York lies source
><https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/01/business/energy-environment/russia-oil-price.html>
> https://tinyurl.com/y7aeashw
>Russian Oil Not Worth the Trouble, Some Traders Conclude
>European buyers, shippers, banks and insurers have grown leery of
>doing business with Russia in recent days, even at deep discounts.
>>>
>>>>> Yes the US blocking trade with those continuing to trade with Russia
>>>>> is a threat to them.
>>>>> Biden and his totalitarian democrats are a far worse threat to the USa

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:03 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
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>On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:50:20 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:35:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 05:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> The USA does about 150 billion a year with India and Russia does
>>>>>>> about 3 to 8 billion. I'm sure there are countries that would spit on
>>>>>>> India rather than lose US business. I'm sure there are many in India
>>>>>>> that would spit on you for even suggesting it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Though I do believe the US companies should start looking for
>>>>>>> alternatives to India with there support of Putin and genocide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> India along with Europe don't want to lose Russian cheap energy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't think it cost differently that the Middle East.
>>>>
>>>>You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>>>
>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>>>
>>Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
>>Very bad polluter.
>
> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
>producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>
Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
Even though *MOST* but not *ALL* of Russian oil is high in sulfur the
US will only buy their best stuff.
Not read where the US is buying Russian oil?
It's possible that oil can be sold to someone then resold?
>
>>That said they do produce some best quality oil but a reluctance for
>>importers to buy it so it is being sold at discounts.
>>New York lies source
>><https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/01/business/energy-environment/russia-oil-price.html>
>> https://tinyurl.com/y7aeashw
>>Russian Oil Not Worth the Trouble, Some Traders Conclude
>>European buyers, shippers, banks and insurers have grown leery of
>>doing business with Russia in recent days, even at deep discounts.
>>>>
>>>>>> Yes the US blocking trade with those continuing to trade with Russia
>>>>>> is a threat to them.
>>>>>> Biden and his totalitarian democrats are a far worse threat to the USa
--
Petzl
"What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the truth.
The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

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On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 14:22:16 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:41:50 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> >> >What culture? If the EU is that good whey did UK leave?
> >> >> Not because of the culture. If Russia is so great, why did all
> >> >> these countries leave it and join NATO now why is the NATO alliance
> >> >> going to get new members?
> >> >
> >> >Now that is a very good question.
> >> >Brief answers:
> >> >Time magazine presenting a rosy picture of the West, very glossy and enticing.
> >> >Ignorance of the West.
> >> >Corruption of Soviet elites.
> >> >Indians were much better informed about the Soviet and West, thanks to non-alignment policies.
> >> I've been reading some of your news from Indian sources. Seems you
> >> might not be in the Majority.
> >Most Indian news sources are funded by the West.
> >I go by what my friends think.
> Then you don't know that what the News is saying is false because
> you have no first hand witnesses.
What are we talking about? I have first hand info about Russians and former USSR. I project from there,

> Tell me are thee any news sources you trust?
No. I trust my old friends and family and myself.
> >> >We can now see how wise Indian leaders were to get the best from both worlds.
> >> Don't know if what they are doing is good long term. American
> >> companies will be leaving.
> >Good, good.
> >> >And how stupid Zelensky is.

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stupid Morrison...

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 by: McCoy - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 09:58 UTC

Morrison is stupid to say we know him and we know what we are getting in a PM, as opposed to relatively unknown Albo.
According to those close to him, we know him as a liar, a psychopath, unfit to be PM, etc,etc.
He is very un-Christian, playing on race and religion issues in the 2007 preselection against Michael Towke.
We don't care if he has 300 pages and Labor has 2 pages. He was in govt and he didn't give us a federal ICAC !!! That's because his party was pork-barrelling, and also his govt. was selling airport land for 10 times their worth!!! Someone must be making a hugh profit. It's not that we want to be vindictive. The surest way to ensure corruption continues into the future, is when no one is held accountable for current corruption!!!
He's supposed to pass a bill to protect Christians. If he really cares for Christians, would he leave that till the last minute, ran out of time to debate and out of time to pass the bill.
He cannot be trusted !!!

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 by: McCoy - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 10:01 UTC

On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 19:58:37 UTC+10, McCoy wrote:
> Morrison is stupid to say we know him and we know what we are getting in a PM, as opposed to relatively unknown Albo.
> According to those close to him, we know him as a liar, a psychopath, unfit to be PM, etc,etc.
> He is very un-Christian, playing on race and religion issues in the 2007 preselection against Michael Towke.
> We don't care if he has 300 pages and Labor has 2 pages. He was in govt and he didn't give us a federal ICAC !!! That's because his party was pork-barrelling, and also his govt. was selling airport land for 10 times their worth!!! Someone must be making a hugh profit. It's not that we want to be vindictive. The surest way to ensure corruption continues into the future, is when no one is held accountable for current corruption!!!
> He's supposed to pass a bill to protect Christians. If he really cares for Christians, would he leave that till the last minute, ran out of time to debate and out of time to pass the bill.
> He cannot be trusted !!!

Correction...his govt. was buying airport land for 10 times their worth!!!

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 12:22 UTC

On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 19:58:37 UTC+10, McCoy wrote:
> Morrison is stupid to say we know him and we know what we are getting in a PM, as opposed to relatively unknown Albo.
> According to those close to him, we know him as a liar, a psychopath, unfit to be PM, etc,etc.
> He is very un-Christian, playing on race and religion issues in the 2007 preselection against Michael Towke.
> We don't care if he has 300 pages and Labor has 2 pages. He was in govt and he didn't give us a federal ICAC !!! That's because his party was pork-barrelling, and also his govt. was selling airport land for 10 times their worth!!! Someone must be making a hugh profit. It's not that we want to be vindictive. The surest way to ensure corruption continues into the future, is when no one is held accountable for current corruption!!!
> He's supposed to pass a bill to protect Christians. If he really cares for Christians, would he leave that till the last minute, ran out of time to debate and out of time to pass the bill.
> He cannot be trusted !!!

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