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Re: USA to blame

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 06:38 UTC

On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>Idiot.
>
> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>will see on your bills?
>
Not if you can go off grid
There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
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Petzl
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They wouldn't let us do it- Mark Twain

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 06:49 UTC

On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise..
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars.. The
> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your Solar panels to
> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap (AU$37K) and there is a
> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge with
> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full hydrogen cylinder?
> >> >> >> That not enough?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
> >> >> >
> >> >> And cheaper also
> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very expensive.
> >> >> May not even work
> >> >
> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
> >> power grid need upkeep also.
> >Idiot.
> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
> power isn't free.

What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives power freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.

You also don't believe the power grid will need
> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
> will see on your bills?

The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say. Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!
> >> >
> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the HTN for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or brackish water as a bonus.
> >> >
> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits shown in
> >> >Htnresearch.com
> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy. Piping hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
> >> > -
> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote the HTN was well received.
> >> >
> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are bad, for so many reasons.
> >> >
> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
> >> >
> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could go for it. No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at best and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean, run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start disasters given the chance.
> >> >
> >> >Batteries should never even be considered for any high power consistent use, but there you go!
> >> >
> >> >For a Genghis Khan, no sweat about seeing the beauty of the HTN and immediately going for it.
> >> >
> >> >But we have Greta instead whom all will consider to be better!
> >> >
> >> >May hope never die!
> >> >
> >> >Cheers,
> >> >Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> --
> >> >> Petzl
> >> >> Make Australia Great Again
> >> >> MAGA
> >> >>
> >> >> Mark Latham has seen the light
> >> >> Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach
> >> >>
> >> >> ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
> >> >> *LAST*, Federal State and Council!

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:52 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>> will see on your bills?
>>
> Not if you can go off grid

Off grid systems still need maintenance, stupid.

> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available

Bullshit, and even if they do become available, they still need
maintenance, stupid.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:56 UTC

On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:49:09 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb
>> <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content
>> (sour)!
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
>> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to
>> rise.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric
>> cars. The
>> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at
>> this time to
>> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system
>> that can
>> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric
>> car, but they
>> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your Solar
>> panels to
>> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap (AU$37K) and
>> there is a
>> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge with
>> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full hydrogen
>> cylinder?
>> >> >> >> That not enough?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> And cheaper also
>> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very
>> expensive.
>> >> >> May not even work
>> >> >
>> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>> non-polluting.
>> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>> >> power grid need upkeep also.
>> >Idiot.
>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>> power isn't free.
>
> What maintenance is there for the sun to shine?

Cleaning the panels and repairing them when they get damaged, stupid.

My BiL, in Melburg is already on his second set.

> The sun gives power freely.

Pity about what you have to use to catch it, stupid.

> Like wind and sea and Earth.

All of which need maintenance, stupid.

>
> You also don't believe the power grid will need
>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>> will see on your bills?
>
> The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it will
> need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the
> electric grid it will eventually replace.

Bullshit when it leaks, fuckwit.

> In another 200 years, say. Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!

Yep, the fucked HTN. Nukes are vastly more viable.

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On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>Idiot.
>>
>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>>power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>>will see on your bills?
>>
>Not if you can go off grid
>There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available

If you say so.

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
>> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars. The
>> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
>> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
>> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
>> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your Solar panels to
>> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap (AU$37K) and there is a
>> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge with
>> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full hydrogen cylinder?
>> >> >> >> That not enough?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> And cheaper also
>> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very expensive.
>> >> >> May not even work
>> >> >
>> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
>> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>> >> power grid need upkeep also.
>> >Idiot.
>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>> power isn't free.
>
>What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives power freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.

You still need to build, repair and a way to transmit the poser.
That isn't free.
>
>
>You also don't believe the power grid will need
>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>> will see on your bills?
>
>The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say. Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!

Well, I can only guess what we will have in 200 years. Humans may
not exist or be back in the stone age with Putin threatening to use
and testing nuclear weapons
>> >> >
>> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the HTN for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or brackish water as a bonus.
>> >> >
>> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits shown in
>> >> >Htnresearch.com
>> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy. Piping hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
>> >> > -
>> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote the HTN was well received.
>> >> >
>> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are bad, for so many reasons.
>> >> >
>> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
>> >> >
>> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could go for it.

> No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at best and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean, run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start disasters given the chance.

Why are you in Australia if you are such a supporter of tyranny?

>> >> >
>> >> >Batteries should never even be considered for any high power consistent use, but there you go!
>> >> >
>> >> >For a Genghis Khan, no sweat about seeing the beauty of the HTN and immediately going for it.
>> >> >
>> >> >But we have Greta instead whom all will consider to be better!
>> >> >
>> >> >May hope never die!
>> >> >
>> >> >Cheers,
>> >> >Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Petzl
>> >> >> Make Australia Great Again
>> >> >> MAGA
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mark Latham has seen the light
>> >> >> Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
>> >> >> *LAST*, Federal State and Council!

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On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 03:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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>On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 01:54:55 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 15:47:11 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:03 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:50:20 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:35:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 05:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The USA does about 150 billion a year with India and Russia does
>>>>>>>>>> about 3 to 8 billion. I'm sure there are countries that would
>>>>>>>>>> spit on
>>>>>>>>>> India rather than lose US business. I'm sure there are many in
>>>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>>>> that would spit on you for even suggesting it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Though I do believe the US companies should start looking for
>>>>>>>>>> alternatives to India with there support of Putin and genocide.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> India along with Europe don't want to lose Russian cheap energy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't think it cost differently that the Middle East.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>>>>
>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>>>>
>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
>>
>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars. The
>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
>
>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>
>Nukes. Boris is going to build 8 more and both china and
>india are building lots more.

OK Germany let the environmental freaks get them to shut theirs
down. Stupid.
>
>> The far left and some of the climate change nutjobs lack common sense.
>> They need to build up the power grid before they get all those cars on
>> the road..
>
>Nope, they aren't adding enough EVs to need that yet.
>
>>> Even though *MOST* but not *ALL* of Russian oil is high in sulfur the
>>> US will only buy their best stuff.
>>> Not read where the US is buying Russian oil?
>>> It's possible that oil can be sold to someone then resold?
>>
>> Probably.
>>>>
>>>>> That said they do produce some best quality oil but a reluctance for
>>>>> importers to buy it so it is being sold at discounts.
>>>>> New York lies source
>>>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/01/business/energy-environment/russia-oil-price.html>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y7aeashw
>>>>> Russian Oil Not Worth the Trouble, Some Traders Conclude
>>>>> European buyers, shippers, banks and insurers have grown leery of
>>>>> doing business with Russia in recent days, even at deep discounts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes the US blocking trade with those continuing to trade with
>>>>>>>>> Russia
>>>>>>>>> is a threat to them.
>>>>>>>>> Biden and his totalitarian democrats are a far worse threat to
>>>>>>>>> the USa

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On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
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>On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>Idiot.
>>>
>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>>>power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>>>will see on your bills?
>>>
>>Not if you can go off grid
>>There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>
> If you say so.
>
Not heard of any being sold, there are also suburban ones
<https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:39:31 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
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>
>> >
>> >Nothing much, just that you were the one making money figures to be such a big deal.
>> It,would be a big deal for all those that lost jobs.
>
>Plenty of jobs will be there when good and clever people are in charge, not the cowardly and the corrupt.
>
>> >They are important - if correct -but there are things more important. Like interests, resolve, results, ideals, styles, health, happiness.
>> >Not all follow the goals of robbers and prostitutes.
>> people need to work. You can't all live off the work of others AKA
>> the State.
>
>True. The famous Protestant ethic for work, now forgotten, did not mean making money from robberies and prostitution.
>
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm sure there are countries that would spit on
>> >> >> India rather than lose US business.
>> >> >
>> >> >Not countries - corrupt, weak individuals running things like business, governments, media, etc.
>> >> So non-communist?
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm sure there are many in India
>> >> >> that would spit on you for even suggesting it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Please do not think Indians to be as rude as you naturally are, as an American.
>> >> Some are like the gang rapist and the government officials who for
>> >> so long allowed that.
>> >> >India is a real democracy, unlike the US, a corrupt oligarchy.
>> >> Sure it is.
>> >> >And what with our timeless civilisation and supreme culture - most polite, especially to strangers.
>> >> >In India people take opinions widely different from their own, gracefully.
>> >> >Tolerance works like that.
>> >> Tell that to those of the lower Caste systems.
>> >
>> >They know that.
>> >
>> >> >So we do not spit at each other.
>> >
>> >> Not even on what you call Untouchables?
>> >
>> >No.
>> >These days so-called untouchables are the kings.
>> >They have many special privileges such as reservations. This has gone on from the 1950s and is the most deeply entrenched aspect of Indian democracy.
>> >The President of India is a so-called untouchable.
>> >Untouchability has been illegal since India got independence.
>> >Not that it ever was a big deal. Hardly. It was made out to be so by the missionary types in their conversion attempts.
>> >By and large people ignore what does not concern them.
>> >The press picks up on the inevitable bad news. Out of 1400 million people, something bad can always be found.
>> Interesting. So all is well and all are treated equally.
>
>No, things could be a lot better.
>Yes there is equality before law, unless you are low caste or tribal, in which case you get plenty of benefits such as reservations in studies and jobs.

Why are you living in OZ and not in India helping there? You don't
want others to leave why did you?

>
>> >> >Which is why we have such brilliant diversity in India. Chaotic, but mutually supportive.
>> >> >We do not wear baseball caps, eat hot dogs, and claim loudly that we are the best!
>> >> >For the life of the genuine Indian is based upon morality.
>> >> >Satyam Shivan Sundaram - Truth Goodness Beauty - strictly in descending order of importance.
>> >> Parts were nice, parts were shit, and smelled of such. But I
>> >> believe most would not agree with you on ditching all relationships
>> >> with the USA.
>> >
>> >Only till the USAns become far more civilized, and stop their disgusting lying and scheming for money gains. In the meantime the Indians should at least ban or place high tariffs on anything cultural from US. Ban all Hollywood, news, noise they call music etc.
>> Ban the NEWS, how Putin of you. Ban Music because you don't like it
>> but others do, how Putin of you.
>
>From the US, an evil terrorist nation, yes, do ban all their news and noise.
>As Prof Mearsheimer says, USA is to blame for the trouble in Ukraine.
>Staying away from the US is healthy.

Here we go more of you Putin shit.
>
>> Lose billions just for your personal
>> agenda that many would not support, who do you think you are Putin?
>
>I am into making quintillions from my brilliant new ideas, over the coming centuries, ideas that the world at large is yet to appreciate.

OK Then you are mentally ill?

>I am thus much more than Putin, being
>Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all time, sole god among lotsa devils
>as I have been saying and proving for decades
>and as for proof
>I am
>absolutely shunned even by your nosy media nor put into any asylum
>for my points are incontrovertible, being correct.

OK You are mentally disturbed as is Putiin.
>
>So as expected they ignore my brief proof of the FLT!

What is FLT?
>
>heh-heh

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On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 01:03:25 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars. The
> >> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
> >> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
> >> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
> >> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your Solar panels to
> >> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap (AU$37K) and there is a
> >> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge with
> >> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full hydrogen cylinder?
> >> >> >> >> That not enough?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> And cheaper also
> >> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very expensive.
> >> >> >> May not even work
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
> >> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
> >> >> power grid need upkeep also.
> >> >Idiot.
> >> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
> >> power isn't free.
> >
> >What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives power freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.
> You still need to build, repair and a way to transmit the poser.
> That isn't free.
> >
> >
> >You also don't believe the power grid will need
> >> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
> >> will see on your bills?
> >
> >The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say. Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!
> Well, I can only guess what we will have in 200 years. Humans may
> not exist or be back in the stone age with Putin threatening to use
> and testing nuclear weapons

So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.

> >> >> >
> >> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the HTN for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or brackish water as a bonus.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits shown in
> >> >> >Htnresearch.com
> >> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy. Piping hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
> >> >> > -
> >> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote the HTN was well received.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are bad, for so many reasons.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could go for it.
>
> > No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at best and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean, run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start disasters given the chance.
> Why are you in Australia if you are such a supporter of tyranny?

You USAns are tyrannical fools.
Australians are good.
So I am happy here.

> >> >> >
> >> >> >Batteries should never even be considered for any high power consistent use, but there you go!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >For a Genghis Khan, no sweat about seeing the beauty of the HTN and immediately going for it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But we have Greta instead whom all will consider to be better!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >May hope never die!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Cheers,
> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Petzl
> >> >> >> Make Australia Great Again
> >> >> >> MAGA
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Mark Latham has seen the light
> >> >> >> Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
> >> >> >> *LAST*, Federal State and Council!

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On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 01:03:25 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars. The
>> >> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
>> >> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
>> >> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
>> >> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your Solar panels to
>> >> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap (AU$37K) and there is a
>> >> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge with
>> >> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full hydrogen cylinder?
>> >> >> >> >> That not enough?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> And cheaper also
>> >> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very expensive.
>> >> >> >> May not even work
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
>> >> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>> >> >> power grid need upkeep also.
>> >> >Idiot.
>> >> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>> >> power isn't free.
>> >
>> >What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives power freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.
>> You still need to build, repair and a way to transmit the poser.
>> That isn't free.
>> >
>> >
>> >You also don't believe the power grid will need
>> >> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>> >> will see on your bills?
>> >
>> >The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say. Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!
>> Well, I can only guess what we will have in 200 years. Humans may
>> not exist or be back in the stone age with Putin threatening to use
>> and testing nuclear weapons
>
>So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.

Then you have no problem if Putin starts a nuclear war.

>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the HTN for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or brackish water as a bonus.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits shown in
>> >> >> >Htnresearch.com
>> >> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy. Piping hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
>> >> >> > -
>> >> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote the HTN was well received.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are bad, for so many reasons.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could go for it.
>>
>> > No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at best and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean, run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start disasters given the chance.
>> Why are you in Australia if you are such a supporter of tyranny?
>
>You USAns are tyrannical fools.
>Australians are good.

Some are.

>So I am happy here.

Good but why do you badmouth other people from India for not
staying?


>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Batteries should never even be considered for any high power consistent use, but there you go!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >For a Genghis Khan, no sweat about seeing the beauty of the HTN and immediately going for it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >But we have Greta instead whom all will consider to be better!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >May hope never die!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Cheers,
>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Petzl
>> >> >> >> Make Australia Great Again
>> >> >> >> MAGA
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Mark Latham has seen the light
>> >> >> >> Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
>> >> >> >> *LAST*, Federal State and Council!


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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:06 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:28:02 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 03:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 01:54:55 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 15:47:11 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:03 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:50:20 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:35:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 05:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The USA does about 150 billion a year with India and Russia
>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>> about 3 to 8 billion. I'm sure there are countries that would
>>>>>>>>>>> spit on
>>>>>>>>>>> India rather than lose US business. I'm sure there are many in
>>>>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>>>>> that would spit on you for even suggesting it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Though I do believe the US companies should start looking for
>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives to India with there support of Putin and genocide.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> India along with Europe don't want to lose Russian cheap energy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't think it cost differently that the Middle East.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>>>>>
>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
>>>
>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars. The
>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
>>
>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>>
>> Nukes. Boris is going to build 8 more and both china and
>> india are building lots more.
>
> OK Germany let the environmental freaks get them to shut theirs
> down. Stupid.

Yeah, one of the real downsides with a proportional voting system.
Govts are always coalitions and tiny little partys play politics by
joining with a major party that is stupid enough to pander to
their policy demands. That means that those tiny partys get
far more say on policy than the number of people who vote
for them warrants.

The UK only has a single Green MP, the USA has none at all.

Germany has backed off on their nuke closures now given
that they are so dependant on russian natural gas.

>>> The far left and some of the climate change nutjobs lack common sense.
>>> They need to build up the power grid before they get all those cars on
>>> the road..
>>
>> Nope, they aren't adding enough EVs to need that yet.
>>
>>>> Even though *MOST* but not *ALL* of Russian oil is high in sulfur the
>>>> US will only buy their best stuff.
>>>> Not read where the US is buying Russian oil?
>>>> It's possible that oil can be sold to someone then resold?
>>>
>>> Probably.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That said they do produce some best quality oil but a reluctance for
>>>>>> importers to buy it so it is being sold at discounts.
>>>>>> New York lies source
>>>>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/01/business/energy-environment/russia-oil-price.html>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y7aeashw
>>>>>> Russian Oil Not Worth the Trouble, Some Traders Conclude
>>>>>> European buyers, shippers, banks and insurers have grown leery of
>>>>>> doing business with Russia in recent days, even at deep discounts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes the US blocking trade with those continuing to trade with
>>>>>>>>>> Russia
>>>>>>>>>> is a threat to them.
>>>>>>>>>> Biden and his totalitarian democrats are a far worse threat to
>>>>>>>>>> the USa

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:31:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>>>> non-polluting.
>>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>>>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>>>> will see on your bills?
>>>>
>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>
>> If you say so.

> Not heard of any being sold,

Because there aren't any to buy.

> there are also suburban ones
> <https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
> https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd

None of those have even been built and wont be for a decade.

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On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 07:34:54 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 01:03:25 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars. The
> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
> >> >> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your Solar panels to
> >> >> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap (AU$37K) and there is a
> >> >> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge with
> >> >> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full hydrogen cylinder?
> >> >> >> >> >> That not enough?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> And cheaper also
> >> >> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very expensive.
> >> >> >> >> May not even work
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and non-polluting.
> >> >> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
> >> >> >> power grid need upkeep also.
> >> >> >Idiot.
> >> >> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
> >> >> power isn't free.
> >> >
> >> >What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives power freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.
> >> You still need to build, repair and a way to transmit the poser.
> >> That isn't free.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >You also don't believe the power grid will need
> >> >> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
> >> >> will see on your bills?
> >> >
> >> >The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say. Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!
> >> Well, I can only guess what we will have in 200 years. Humans may
> >> not exist or be back in the stone age with Putin threatening to use
> >> and testing nuclear weapons
> >
> >So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.
> Then you have no problem if Putin starts a nuclear war.
It is US who will be responsible.
Prof Mersheimer will agree.
The US is behind all major ills, such as covid.
> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the HTN for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or brackish water as a bonus.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits shown in
> >> >> >> >Htnresearch.com
> >> >> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy. Piping hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
> >> >> >> > -
> >> >> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote the HTN was well received.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are bad, for so many reasons.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could go for it.
> >>
> >> > No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at best and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean, run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start disasters given the chance.
> >> Why are you in Australia if you are such a supporter of tyranny?
> >
> >You USAns are tyrannical fools.
> >Australians are good.
> Some are.
> >So I am happy here.
> Good but why do you badmouth other people from India for not
> staying?
Only those who break their promises and have no loyalty. I do not badmouth them as such, just say they are cowardly opportunists like most humans. Nothing to be proud about.


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 by: Petzl - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:56 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:08:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:31:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>>>>> non-polluting.
>>>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>>>>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that you
>>>>> will see on your bills?
>>>>>
>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>
>>> If you say so.
>
>> Not heard of any being sold,
>
>Because there aren't any to buy.
>
They are or were available, seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>
>> there are also suburban ones
>> <https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
>> https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd
>
>None of those have even been built and wont be for a decade.
>
Seems that way
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What is the harm of for the Democrats validating the voting system.
Is it because the Democrats have something to hide?

Amazing to think that Lyndon Johnson perfected the
'sit-wait-see how many we need to win-then dump our
stuffed ballots at the last moment' electoral technique
in post-war Texas, and nothing has changed in US elections
in the 7 decades since.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas#Legal_battle>
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:28:02 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 03:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 01:54:55 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 15:47:11 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:03 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:50:20 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:35:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 05:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The USA does about 150 billion a year with India and Russia does
>>>>>>>>>>> about 3 to 8 billion. I'm sure there are countries that would
>>>>>>>>>>> spit on
>>>>>>>>>>> India rather than lose US business. I'm sure there are many in
>>>>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>>>>> that would spit on you for even suggesting it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Though I do believe the US companies should start looking for
>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives to India with there support of Putin and genocide.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> India along with Europe don't want to lose Russian cheap energy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't think it cost differently that the Middle East.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the pipelines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur content (sour)!
>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted to stop
>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>>>>>
>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil to rise.
>>>
>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy electric cars. The
>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure at this time to
>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar system that can
>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an electric car, but they
>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric car.
>>
>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>>
>>Nukes. Boris is going to build 8 more and both china and
>>india are building lots more.
>
Germany builds and operate their Nukes along the French border,
Germany imports that power.
>
> OK Germany let the environmental freaks get them to shut theirs
>down. Stupid.
>
CNN is going bust because they like Biden's perverts push a few farm
animals (L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.+) as being a majority, when they are not, just
noisy.

See the Paranoia of the Democrats started fleeing the Capital over the
Army parachuting exercise. Looks like they can see they are likely to
get lynched for stealing the elections. I see the "temporary"
barricades put around the Whitehouse by Biden are still there.
>>
>>> The far left and some of the climate change nutjobs lack common sense.
>>> They need to build up the power grid before they get all those cars on
>>> the road..
>>
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Petzl
What is the harm of for the Democrats validating the voting system.
Is it because the Democrats have something to hide?

Amazing to think that Lyndon Johnson perfected the
'sit-wait-see how many we need to win-then dump our
stuffed ballots at the last moment' electoral technique
in post-war Texas, and nothing has changed in US elections
in the 7 decades since.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas#Legal_battle>
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but NOT voter IDs. Paying attention yet?

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 23:18 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:18:35 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 07:34:54 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 01:03:25 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl
>> <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb
>> <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl
>> <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb
>> <trdel...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the
>> pipelines.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur
>> content (sour)!
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted
>> to stop
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil
>> to rise.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy
>> electric cars. The
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure
>> at this time to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar
>> system that can
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an
>> electric car, but they
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric
>> car.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your
>> Solar panels to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap
>> (AU$37K) and there is a
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge
>> with
>> >> >> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full
>> hydrogen cylinder?
>> >> >> >> >> >> That not enough?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> And cheaper also
>> >> >> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very
>> expensive.
>> >> >> >> >> May not even work
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>> non-polluting.
>> >> >> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and
>> the
>> >> >> >> power grid need upkeep also.
>> >> >> >Idiot.
>> >> >> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>> >> >> power isn't free.
>> >> >
>> >> >What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives power
>> freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.
>> >> You still need to build, repair and a way to transmit the poser.
>> >> That isn't free.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >You also don't believe the power grid will need
>> >> >> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that
>> you
>> >> >> will see on your bills?
>> >> >
>> >> >The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it
>> will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the
>> electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say.
>> Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!
>> >> Well, I can only guess what we will have in 200 years. Humans may
>> >> not exist or be back in the stone age with Putin threatening to use
>> >> and testing nuclear weapons
>> >
>> >So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.

>> Then you have no problem if Putin starts a nuclear war.

> It is US who will be responsible.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

> Prof Mersheimer will agree.

That fool is completely irrelevant, and so are you.

> The US is behind all major ills, such as covid.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

It wasnt the US that set up the USSR, fuckwit.

Or fucked over Chechnya, Georgia, grabbed the Crimea
and is now trying to do that with the Ukraine.

>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the HTN
>> for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or
>> brackish water as a bonus.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits
>> shown in
>> >> >> >> >Htnresearch.com
>> >> >> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy. Piping
>> hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and
>> connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and
>> deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
>> >> >> >> > -
>> >> >> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote the
>> HTN was well received.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the
>> negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are bad,
>> for so many reasons.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the
>> hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and
>> transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could go
>> for it.
>> >>
>> >> > No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at best
>> and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean,
>> run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start
>> disasters given the chance.
>> >> Why are you in Australia if you are such a supporter of tyranny?
>> >
>> >You USAns are tyrannical fools.
>> >Australians are good.
>> Some are.
>> >So I am happy here.
>> Good but why do you badmouth other people from India for not
>> staying?


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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 23:20 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:08:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:31:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>>>>>> non-polluting.
>>>>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>>>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>>>>>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>>>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> will see on your bills?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>
>>>> If you say so.
>>
>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>
>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>
> They are or were available,

Nope, not even in russia for other than
very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.

> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd

Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up spectacularly.

>>> there are also suburban ones
>>> <https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd
>>
>> None of those have even been built and wont be for a decade.
>>
> Seems that way

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 23:36 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:20:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:08:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:31:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>>>>>>> non-polluting.
>>>>>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and the
>>>>>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>>>>>>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>>>>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> will see on your bills?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>>
>>>>> If you say so.
>>>
>>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>>
>>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>>
>> They are or were available,
>
>Nope, not even in russia for other than
>very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.
>
>> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>
>Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up spectacularly.
>
Why you think Australia will be getting Nuclear powered submarines
Their reactors are small.
>
>>>> there are also suburban ones
>>>> <https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd
>>>
>>> None of those have even been built and wont be for a decade.
>>>
>> Seems that way
--
Petzl

Congratulations President Trump. Thank you for cleaning up the disaster
of the Obama presidency.

Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood
queer liberal democrat donors.

President Trump has boosted the economy, reduced illegal immigration,
appointed dozens of judges and created jobs.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 00:13 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:36:03 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:20:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:08:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:31:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>>>>>>>> non-polluting.
>>>>>>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>>>>>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> will see on your bills?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>
>>>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>>>
>>>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>>>
>>> They are or were available,
>>
>> Nope, not even in russia for other than
>> very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.
>>
>>> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>>
>> Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up
>> spectacularly.

> Why you think Australia will be getting Nuclear powered submarines

Because that makes sense for subs, but doesnt for a suburban house.

> Their reactors are small.

Nothing like small enough for a suburban house.

>>>>> there are also suburban ones
>>>>> <https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd
>>>>
>>>> None of those have even been built and wont be for a decade.
>>>>
>>> Seems that way

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 00:54 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 10:13:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:36:03 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:20:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:08:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:31:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>>>>>>>>> non-polluting.
>>>>>>>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>>>>>>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> will see on your bills?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>>>>
>>>>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>>>>
>>>> They are or were available,
>>>
>>> Nope, not even in russia for other than
>>> very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.
>>>
>>>> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>>>
>>> Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up
>>> spectacularly.
>
>> Why you think Australia will be getting Nuclear powered submarines
>
>Because that makes sense for subs, but doesnt for a suburban house.
>
Propaganda to allow a Australian nuclear industry
>
>> Their reactors are small.
>
>Nothing like small enough for a suburban house.
>
Can be made for "Nuclear house battery" in Australia!
<https://news.mit.edu/2021/nuclear-batteries-decarbon-0625>
https://tinyurl.com/y5njz28j
These proposed systems could provide heat for industrial processes or
electricity for a military base or a neighborhood, run unattended for
five to 10 years, and then be trucked back to the factory for
refueling and refurbishment.
>
>>>>>> there are also suburban ones
>>>>>> <https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd
>>>>>
>>>>> None of those have even been built and wont be for a decade.
>>>>>
>>>> Seems that way
--
Petzl
If voting made any difference,
They wouldn't let us do it- Mark Twain

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 02:40 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 10:54:18 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 10:13:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:36:03 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:20:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:08:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:31:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:55:24 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:38:09 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:27:58 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>>>>>>>>>> non-polluting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>>>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> power isn't free. You also don't believe the power grid will
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> will see on your bills?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They are or were available,
>>>>
>>>> Nope, not even in russia for other than
>>>> very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.
>>>>
>>>>> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up
>>>> spectacularly.
>>
>>> Why you think Australia will be getting Nuclear powered submarines
>>
>> Because that makes sense for subs, but doesnt for a suburban house.
>>
> Propaganda to allow a Australian nuclear industry

Nope, it is the only thing that makes any sense with a sub.

>>> Their reactors are small.
>>
>> Nothing like small enough for a suburban house.
>>
> Can be made for "Nuclear house battery" in Australia!
> <https://news.mit.edu/2021/nuclear-batteries-decarbon-0625>
> https://tinyurl.com/y5njz28j

But no one is actually that stupid, even tho it is technically possible,
and it isnt a battery either, its the entire source of electricity.

> These proposed systems could provide heat for industrial processes or
> electricity for a military base or a neighborhood, run unattended for
> five to 10 years, and then be trucked back to the factory for
> refueling and refurbishment.

Makes more sense to have a number of full sized nukes.

>>>>>>> there are also suburban ones
>>>>>>> <https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-why-rolls-royce-smr>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y6oy7vcd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of those have even been built and wont be for a decade.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Seems that way

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 06:17 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 12:40:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>>>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are or were available,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, not even in russia for other than
>>>>> very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up
>>>>> spectacularly.
>>>
>>>> Why you think Australia will be getting Nuclear powered submarines
>>>
>>> Because that makes sense for subs, but doesnt for a suburban house.
>>>
>> Propaganda to allow a Australian nuclear industry
>
>Nope, it is the only thing that makes any sense with a sub.
>
Don't really see the Australia needs any?
New Zealand's "Rocket Lab" 3D prints it's rockets, launches 2 times a
month, pay load half a tonne each launch 50 times a year.
>
>>>> Their reactors are small.
>>>
>>> Nothing like small enough for a suburban house.
>>>
>> Can be made for "Nuclear house battery" in Australia!
>> <https://news.mit.edu/2021/nuclear-batteries-decarbon-0625>
>> https://tinyurl.com/y5njz28j
>
>But no one is actually that stupid, even tho it is technically possible,
>and it isnt a battery either, its the entire source of electricity.
>
Yes it is a entire source of power for a home
>
>> These proposed systems could provide heat for industrial processes or
>> electricity for a military base or a neighborhood, run unattended for
>> five to 10 years, and then be trucked back to the factory for
>> refueling and refurbishment.
>
>Makes more sense to have a number of full sized nukes.
>
Avoids transmission costs
They sit outside home in a 2 metre diameter concrete drain pipe buried
in the ground with a removable lid.
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 06:41 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>>>>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are or were available,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, not even in russia for other than
>>>>>> very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up
>>>>>> spectacularly.
>>>>
>>>>> Why you think Australia will be getting Nuclear powered submarines
>>>>
>>>> Because that makes sense for subs, but doesnt for a suburban house.
>>>>
>>> Propaganda to allow a Australian nuclear industry
>>
>> Nope, it is the only thing that makes any sense with a sub.

> Don't really see the Australia needs any?

Agreed, but if we are actually stupid enough to piss all that
money against the wall on any subs, they should be nuke subs.

> New Zealand's "Rocket Lab" 3D prints it's rockets, launches 2 timesa
> month, pay load half a tonne each launch 50 times a year.

Even more stupid given that no one is gunna invade them.

>>>>> Their reactors are small.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like small enough for a suburban house.
>>>>
>>> Can be made for "Nuclear house battery" in Australia!
>>> <https://news.mit.edu/2021/nuclear-batteries-decarbon-0625>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/y5njz28j
>>
>> But no one is actually that stupid, even tho it is technically possible,
>> and it isnt a battery either, its the entire source of electricity.

> Yes it is a entire source of power for a home

And nothing like a battery.

>>> These proposed systems could provide heat for industrial processes or
>>> electricity for a military base or a neighborhood, run unattended for
>>> five to 10 years, and then be trucked back to the factory for
>>> refueling and refurbishment.
>>
>> Makes more sense to have a number of full sized nukes.

> Avoids transmission costs

Nope, you still need the grid for when you have to refuel or maintain it.

And with nukes, once you have the nukes, it doesn't matter what
the loss in the transmission is, nukes have minimal fuel costs.

> They sit outside home in a 2 metre diameter concrete drain pipe buried
> in the ground with a removable lid.

No point in having one of those outside each house
and a floor drowns the nuke. Fuck that.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 06:45 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 16:41:56 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not if you can go off grid
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are now safe household Nuclear reactors available
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not heard of any being sold,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because there aren't any to buy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are or were available,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, not even in russia for other than
>>>>>>> very remote lighthouses off the grid etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> seems paranoia stopped them being OK'd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit. It makes no sense to allow what can be fucked up
>>>>>>> spectacularly.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why you think Australia will be getting Nuclear powered submarines
>>>>>
>>>>> Because that makes sense for subs, but doesnt for a suburban house.
>>>>>
>>>> Propaganda to allow a Australian nuclear industry
>>>
>>> Nope, it is the only thing that makes any sense with a sub.
>
>> Don't really see the Australia needs any?
>
> Agreed, but if we are actually stupid enough to piss all that
> money against the wall on any subs, they should be nuke subs.
>
>> New Zealand's "Rocket Lab" 3D prints it's rockets, launches 2 timesa
>> month, pay load half a tonne each launch 50 times a year.
>
> Even more stupid given that no one is gunna invade them.
>
>>>>>> Their reactors are small.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing like small enough for a suburban house.
>>>>>
>>>> Can be made for "Nuclear house battery" in Australia!
>>>> <https://news.mit.edu/2021/nuclear-batteries-decarbon-0625>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y5njz28j
>>>
>>> But no one is actually that stupid, even tho it is technically
>>> possible,
>>> and it isnt a battery either, its the entire source of electricity.
>
>> Yes it is a entire source of power for a home
>
> And nothing like a battery.
>
>>>> These proposed systems could provide heat for industrial processes or
>>>> electricity for a military base or a neighborhood, run unattended for
>>>> five to 10 years, and then be trucked back to the factory for
>>>> refueling and refurbishment.
>>>
>>> Makes more sense to have a number of full sized nukes.
>
>> Avoids transmission costs
>
> Nope, you still need the grid for when you have to refuel or maintain it.
>
> And with nukes, once you have the nukes, it doesn't matter what
> the loss in the transmission is, nukes have minimal fuel costs.
>
>> They sit outside home in a 2 metre diameter concrete drain pipe buried
>> in the ground with a removable lid.
>
> No point in having one of those outside each house
> and a floor drowns the nuke. Fuck that.

And any terrorist can put a decent slab of plastic explosive on the
lid and contaninate the entire neighbourhood. Fuck that.

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