On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:43:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote
>
>>>>>>>> *MAGA Rebrand Markets Trump As A Fascist Savior*
>>>>>>>> /The Young Turks/
>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiffcVEjlf0>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Some of Donald Trump’s supporters are looking to rebrand the MAGA
>>>>>>>> movement into something more authoritarian, calling it “Dark MAGA”.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> group wants Trump to be more ruthless when confronting his
>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>> opponents in 2024 and is even adopting a more dystopian and
>>>>>>>> aggressive
>>>>>>>> aesthetic style to market the campaign."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is facing a problem with governor Ron DeSantis priming himself
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the 2024 election. Ron is pretty similar to Trump, except he is a
>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>> smarter than Don.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DeSantis is more moderate than Trump in some ways. The next US
>>>>>> Presidential election should prove interesting you have Trump a total
>>>>>> idiot and loser, Biden a total idiot and airhead, then rumors of
>>>>>> Hillary and DeSantis. Maybe Elon Musk will run. ;-)) (kidding).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump is all about personal ego and Biden his Green Knew Deal, even
>>>>>> if it destroys the economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing would destroy the economy. Even the Great Depression didn't do
>>>>> that.
>>>
>>>> That sounds like a snowflake response.
>>>
>>> Then you need a hearing aid, BAD.
>>>
>>> Congress decides on what happens, not the president, fuckwit.
>>
>> WOW All these Presidential executive orders are fake news then.
>
>None of those has any possibility of DESTROYING THE ECONOMY, fuckwit.

OK, little snowflake.

Rod Speed wrote on 25/4/22 3:45 am:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
>>> Trevor Wilson:
>
>>>> Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
>>>> wants to be PM.
>
>>>  That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming true.
>
>> If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>
> No chance imo.
>
>> How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>
> 19%, no chance of him losing.

Ah!! O.K., thank you! So we're safe from PM Dutton .... for the time being!
--
Daniel

Rod Speed wrote on 26/4/22 7:57 am:
> McCoy <mccoyrufus@gmail.com> wrote

<Snip>

>> and how to get (re)elected to remain in govt. That's why he was absent
>> during the bush fires!!
>
> Nope, he went on holiday before they happened, fuckwit.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying something...

I'm sure ScoMo had been on Holidays before the fires happened, but .....

The Bush fires were off and running in Aug/Sept 2019 (Firey Petzl should
be able to tell us!) and ScoMo went to Hawaii Christmas/New Year time
frame, 2019/20!!
--
Daniel

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote

>>>>>>>>> *MAGA Rebrand Markets Trump As A Fascist Savior*
>>>>>>>>> /The Young Turks/
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiffcVEjlf0>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Some of Donald Trump’s supporters are looking to rebrand the
>>>>>>>>> MAGA
>>>>>>>>> movement into something more authoritarian, calling it “Dark
>>>>>>>>> MAGA”.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> group wants Trump to be more ruthless when confronting his
>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>> opponents in 2024 and is even adopting a more dystopian and
>>>>>>>>> aggressive
>>>>>>>>> aesthetic style to market the campaign."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He is facing a problem with governor Ron DeSantis priming himself
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the 2024 election. Ron is pretty similar to Trump, except he is a
>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>> smarter than Don.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DeSantis is more moderate than Trump in some ways. The next US
>>>>>>> Presidential election should prove interesting you have Trump a
>>>>>>> total
>>>>>>> idiot and loser, Biden a total idiot and airhead, then rumors of
>>>>>>> Hillary and DeSantis. Maybe Elon Musk will run. ;-)) (kidding)..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump is all about personal ego and Biden his Green Knew Deal,
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> if it destroys the economy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing would destroy the economy. Even the Great Depression didn't
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>>> That sounds like a snowflake response.
>>>>
>>>> Then you need a hearing aid, BAD.
>>>>
>>>> Congress decides on what happens, not the president, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> WOW All these Presidential executive orders are fake news then.
>>
>> None of those has any possibility of DESTROYING THE ECONOMY, fuckwit.
>
> OK, little snowflake.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag,
you stupid drug crazed drunken fuckwit.

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
>>>> Trevor Wilson:

>>>>> Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
>>>>> wants to be PM.

>>>> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming true.

>>> If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.

>> No chance imo.

>>> How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??

>> 19%, no chance of him losing.

> Ah!! O.K., thank you! So we're safe from PM Dutton .... for the time
> being!

He would be fine as PM, but it isnt going to happen any time soon.

*Scomo launches his campaign by introducing his A-Team*
/Swollen Pickles/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtQzUsbNDg>

When Scott Morrison announced that he’d called the election he delivered a
stirring speech, urging Australian’s to vote for a stronger future. I
thought it needed some tweaking and thought I’d take the opportunity to
highlight some of the major achievements of his crack A-Team!

In all seriousness, sometimes people have a tendency to forget this sort
of thing leading in to an election, and it should be a time to remember,
not forget.

Scooter's Outro Theme can be found here:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYgc2W7hWc>

~~~
Aren't you feeling that crazy immense confidence in the LNP government
took a turn for a freefall.

YAY...indeed ScoMo's team can't deliver ... alas, this election is totally
your choice!

--
Ördög - - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

Want to see the most spiteful nasties of Australian politics?
Here I show you:

Just look no farther than the Liberal Party of Australia and its dumb
coalition partner:

This is their fundamental ideology (if one can call it that):
Capitalist neo-liberal/libertarian LNP lies and alternate reality,
Lack of LNP compassion for the already downtrodden,
Sociopathic LNP greed & envy,
LNP endemic nepotistic and plutocratic corruption,
Vicious LNP hunger for power and "born to rule mentality",
Xtian LNP fundamentalism Never ending misogyny & homophobia within LNP
Undeniable Anglo-Celtic racism and supremacy of LNP politicians,
Unbridled hate for the underclasses amongst LNP personalities,
Unrelenting vengeance seeking against political opponents of LNP...

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:05:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Rod Speed wrote on 26/4/22 7:57 am:
>> McCoy <mccoyrufus@gmail.com> wrote
>
><Snip>
>
>>> and how to get (re)elected to remain in govt. That's why he was absent
>>> during the bush fires!!
>>
>> Nope, he went on holiday before they happened, fuckwit.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying something...
>
>I'm sure ScoMo had been on Holidays before the fires happened, but .....
>
>The Bush fires were off and running in Aug/Sept 2019 (Firey Petzl should
>be able to tell us!) and ScoMo went to Hawaii Christmas/New Year time
>frame, 2019/20!!
>
What made this worse was him sneaking off (thinking bo one would
notice) to Hawaii, then photographed wearing a "Magnum P.I shirt,
straw hat, drinking a Mai Tai"
Tried to keep it secret?

Would of been better if he said he would be away for Christmas, while
greenies living "amongst the gum tree's the lovely gum trees" refusing
hazard reduction, then got burnt to death.
A media love child!

<https://junkee.com/scott-morrison-hawaii-two-years/318157>
https://tinyurl.com/y3be6yfc
Abandon your responsibilities and grab your flower crown, because it
has officially been two years since Prime Minister Scott Morrison
fucked off to Hawaii in the midst of one of Australia’s worst bushfire
seasons.
--
Petzl
If in doubt kick them out!
Politician's are nothing more than a con game in insincerity!

Charlatanism is a necessary price of political freedom and if
a self-proclaimed politician, persuades others to believe in
a party which propounds, lack of sincerity or integrity on
the parties part, but is not incompatible with the parties
character or their beliefs, practices and observances and
being accepted by their voters, why not?

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!

On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 7:57:13 am UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> McCoy <mccoy...@gmail.com> wrote
> > Fran wrote
> >> Daniel65 wrote
>
> >> > Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
> >> >> Trevor Wilson:
> >> >
> >> > <Snip>
> >> >
> >> >>> **Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
> >> >>> wants to be PM.
> >> >>
> >> >> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming true..
> >> >
> >> > If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
> >> It's a certainty that SloMo will go (although the timing is up for
> >> debate) and then it becomes between Dutton and Freydenburg. Of the two,
> >> I'd back Freydenberg as being the preferred LNP leader. BUT both Dutton
> >> and Freydenberg have got a contest on their hands as to re-election and
> >> I think this is going to be a really close election. There was soem
> >> sculduggery in Dickson (Dutton's seat) last time by one particular LNP
> >> supporter so it'll be interesting to see if that is repeated this time
> >> round. You might also remember the sculduggery in Freydenberg's seat
> >> last time round where election signs in Chinese using teh AEC colour
> >> were put right next to AEC signage at booths - of course these signs
> >> said to vote for Josh.
> >> > How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
> >> 19%. He'll get back in as sadly they don't seem to be bothered by his
> >> character defects.
> >
> > Those LNP characters, eg Dutton and ScoMo, are big bullshiters, a lot of
> > hot air, but deliver nothing!!!
> More of your mindless bullshit. ScoMo actually delivered
> one of the best covid results in the entire fucking world.
> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>
> Dutton dumped Labor's stupid submarine utter fiasco.
> > They tried to frighten the public into voting them back in on national
> > security grounds,
> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
> > and yet have given us nothing
> > concrete to improve our national security.
> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
> > If the current situation is as dire as they say,
> They have never said that.
> > we need to be armed to the teeth now.
> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
> > We can't wait 40 years to get our nuclear power subs.
> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
> > The war would be well and truly over by then.
> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
> > Typical LNP political bullshit !!!
> Corse Albo has proposed something very different in that area, eh.
> > Promise the people something in the future; 40 yrs my arse!!! they won't
> > be around to take responsibility.
> The subs are useless. What we have otherwise is fine for what might happen.
> > ScoMo perform well when he was minster, and in his early days as PM. He
> > then slacked off, esp. after winning the last election (almost by
> > fluke!!!).
> It was no fluke, the voters didn't buy Shorten's stupiditys and
> even Albo noticed that and tossed them ALL in the bin.
>
> And ScoMo actually delivered one of the best
> covid results in the entire fucking world.
> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.

Morrison likes to take credit when things go well, and its "never his fault" when things turn bad.
The good covid results are achieved by the States, not Morrison.
It's the States that wanted the lockdown, esp in the early stages when there was no vaccines.
It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the States do a lockdown !!!!

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> McCoy <mccoyrufus@gmail.com> wrote

>>> and how to get (re)elected to remain in govt. That's why he was absent
>>> during the bush fires!!

>> Nope, he went on holiday before they happened, fuckwit.

> I'm sure ScoMo had been on Holidays before the fires happened, but .....

> The Bush fires were off and running in Aug/Sept 2019

There are ALWAYS some bushfires every fucking summer here, stupid.

> (Firey Petzl should be able to tell us!)

The dead fucker was the firey, not the pretzel and since the dead fucker
is now a dead fucker, you will need a Ouija board to ask him anything.

> and ScoMo went to Hawaii Christmas/New Year time frame, 2019/20!!

Different bushfires entirely, stupid.

And ScoMo isnt a volunteer firey anyway, that's Abbott.

Paul Koh <pkoh888@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> McCoy <mccoy...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Fran wrote
>> >> Daniel65 wrote
>> >> > Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote
>> >> >> Trevor Wilson wrote

>> >> >>> **Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and
>> Dutton
>> >> >>> wants to be PM.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming
>> true.
>> >> >
>> >> > If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>> >> It's a certainty that SloMo will go (although the timing is up for
>> >> debate) and then it becomes between Dutton and Freydenburg. Of the
>> two,
>> >> I'd back Freydenberg as being the preferred LNP leader. BUT both
>> Dutton
>> >> and Freydenberg have got a contest on their hands as to re-election
>> and
>> >> I think this is going to be a really close election. There was soem
>> >> sculduggery in Dickson (Dutton's seat) last time by one particular
>> LNP
>> >> supporter so it'll be interesting to see if that is repeated this
>> time
>> >> round. You might also remember the sculduggery in Freydenberg's seat
>> >> last time round where election signs in Chinese using teh AEC colour
>> >> were put right next to AEC signage at booths - of course these signs
>> >> said to vote for Josh.
>> >> > How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>> >> 19%. He'll get back in as sadly they don't seem to be bothered by his
>> >> character defects.
>> >
>> > Those LNP characters, eg Dutton and ScoMo, are big bullshiters, a lot
>> of
>> > hot air, but deliver nothing!!!
>> More of your mindless bullshit. ScoMo actually delivered
>> one of the best covid results in the entire fucking world.
>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>>
>> Dutton dumped Labor's stupid submarine utter fiasco.
>> > They tried to frighten the public into voting them back in on national
>> > security grounds,
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>> > and yet have given us nothing
>> > concrete to improve our national security.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>> > If the current situation is as dire as they say,
>> They have never said that.
>> > we need to be armed to the teeth now.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>> > We can't wait 40 years to get our nuclear power subs.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>> > The war would be well and truly over by then.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>> > Typical LNP political bullshit !!!
>> Corse Albo has proposed something very different in that area, eh.
>> > Promise the people something in the future; 40 yrs my arse!!! they
>> won't
>> > be around to take responsibility.
>> The subs are useless. What we have otherwise is fine for what might
>> happen.
>> > ScoMo perform well when he was minster, and in his early days as PM..
>> He
>> > then slacked off, esp. after winning the last election (almost by
>> > fluke!!!).
>> It was no fluke, the voters didn't buy Shorten's stupiditys and
>> even Albo noticed that and tossed them ALL in the bin.
>>
>> And ScoMo actually delivered one of the best
>> covid results in the entire fucking world.
>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.

> Morrison likes to take credit when things go well,

Corse no other polly ever does anything like that, eh ?

and its "never his
> fault" when things turn bad.

Corse no other polly ever does anything like that, eh ?

> The good covid results are achieved by the States, not Morrison.

More mindless bullshit and lies with the very early shutting of
the borders by ScoMo which was the main reason we did do
well, and with the organising of local production of the vaccine.

> It's the States that wanted the lockdown,

BULLSHIT.

> esp in the early stages when there was no vaccines.

More mindless bullshit and lies.

> It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the
> States do a lockdown !!!!

More mindless bullshit and lies.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:13:28 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Paul Koh <pkoh888@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> McCoy <mccoy...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> > Fran wrote
>>> >> Daniel65 wrote
>>> >> > Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote
>>> >> >> Trevor Wilson wrote
>
>>> >> >>> **Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and
>>> Dutton
>>> >> >>> wants to be PM.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming
>>> true.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>>> >> It's a certainty that SloMo will go (although the timing is up for
>>> >> debate) and then it becomes between Dutton and Freydenburg. Of the
>>> two,
>>> >> I'd back Freydenberg as being the preferred LNP leader. BUT both
>>> Dutton
>>> >> and Freydenberg have got a contest on their hands as to re-election
>>> and
>>> >> I think this is going to be a really close election. There was soem
>>> >> sculduggery in Dickson (Dutton's seat) last time by one particular
>>> LNP
>>> >> supporter so it'll be interesting to see if that is repeated this
>>> time
>>> >> round. You might also remember the sculduggery in Freydenberg's seat
>>> >> last time round where election signs in Chinese using teh AEC colour
>>> >> were put right next to AEC signage at booths - of course these signs
>>> >> said to vote for Josh.
>>> >> > How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>>> >> 19%. He'll get back in as sadly they don't seem to be bothered by his
>>> >> character defects.
>>> >
>>> > Those LNP characters, eg Dutton and ScoMo, are big bullshiters, a lot
>>> of
>>> > hot air, but deliver nothing!!!
>>> More of your mindless bullshit. ScoMo actually delivered
>>> one of the best covid results in the entire fucking world.
>>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>>>
>>> Dutton dumped Labor's stupid submarine utter fiasco.
>>> > They tried to frighten the public into voting them back in on national
>>> > security grounds,
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> > and yet have given us nothing
>>> > concrete to improve our national security.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> > If the current situation is as dire as they say,
>>> They have never said that.
>>> > we need to be armed to the teeth now.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> > We can't wait 40 years to get our nuclear power subs.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> > The war would be well and truly over by then.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> > Typical LNP political bullshit !!!
>>> Corse Albo has proposed something very different in that area, eh.
>>> > Promise the people something in the future; 40 yrs my arse!!! they
>>> won't
>>> > be around to take responsibility.
>>> The subs are useless. What we have otherwise is fine for what might
>>> happen.
>>> > ScoMo perform well when he was minster, and in his early days as PM.
>>> He
>>> > then slacked off, esp. after winning the last election (almost by
>>> > fluke!!!).
>>> It was no fluke, the voters didn't buy Shorten's stupiditys and
>>> even Albo noticed that and tossed them ALL in the bin.
>>>
>>> And ScoMo actually delivered one of the best
>>> covid results in the entire fucking world.
>>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>
>> Morrison likes to take credit when things go well,
>
>Corse no other polly ever does anything like that, eh ?
>
>and its "never his
>> fault" when things turn bad.
>
>Corse no other polly ever does anything like that, eh ?
>
>> The good covid results are achieved by the States, not Morrison.
>
>More mindless bullshit and lies with the very early shutting of
>the borders by ScoMo which was the main reason we did do
>well, and with the organising of local production of the vaccine.
>
>> It's the States that wanted the lockdown,
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
>> esp in the early stages when there was no vaccines.
>
>More mindless bullshit and lies.
>
>> It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the
>> States do a lockdown !!!!
>
>More mindless bullshit and lies.
>
The Labor/Greens Alliance has made the same mistake as last time.
They try and make it a Presidential style election rather than a
debate on policies.
They gave their man Mr Albo/bandt a makeover and thought that would be
enough.
Backfired again. ScoMo is way ahead in the preferred Prime Minister
polls, and getting further ahead. Now Labor’s shadow front bench have
also been exposed as incompetent and hypocritical.
The socialists have tried to take voters for fools again.
Shame for them that most of us still remember the chaos of the
Rudd/Gillard/Rudd days.
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Paul Koh <pkoh888@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> McCoy <mccoy...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> > Fran wrote
>>>> >> Daniel65 wrote
>>>> >> > Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote
>>>> >> >> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>
>>>> >> >>> **Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and
>>>> Dutton
>>>> >> >>> wants to be PM.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming
>>>> true.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>>>> >> It's a certainty that SloMo will go (although the timing is up for
>>>> >> debate) and then it becomes between Dutton and Freydenburg. Of the
>>>> two,
>>>> >> I'd back Freydenberg as being the preferred LNP leader. BUT both
>>>> Dutton
>>>> >> and Freydenberg have got a contest on their hands as to re-election
>>>> and
>>>> >> I think this is going to be a really close election. There was soem
>>>> >> sculduggery in Dickson (Dutton's seat) last time by one particular
>>>> LNP
>>>> >> supporter so it'll be interesting to see if that is repeated this
>>>> time
>>>> >> round. You might also remember the sculduggery in Freydenberg's
>>>> seat
>>>> >> last time round where election signs in Chinese using teh AEC
>>>> colour
>>>> >> were put right next to AEC signage at booths - of course these
>>>> signs
>>>> >> said to vote for Josh.
>>>> >> > How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>>>> >> 19%. He'll get back in as sadly they don't seem to be bothered by
>>>> his
>>>> >> character defects.
>>>> >
>>>> > Those LNP characters, eg Dutton and ScoMo, are big bullshiters, a
>>>> lot
>>>> of
>>>> > hot air, but deliver nothing!!!
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit. ScoMo actually delivered
>>>> one of the best covid results in the entire fucking world.
>>>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>>>>
>>>> Dutton dumped Labor's stupid submarine utter fiasco.
>>>> > They tried to frighten the public into voting them back in on
>>>> national
>>>> > security grounds,
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> > and yet have given us nothing
>>>> > concrete to improve our national security.
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> > If the current situation is as dire as they say,
>>>> They have never said that.
>>>> > we need to be armed to the teeth now.
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> > We can't wait 40 years to get our nuclear power subs.
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> > The war would be well and truly over by then.
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> > Typical LNP political bullshit !!!
>>>> Corse Albo has proposed something very different in that area, eh.
>>>> > Promise the people something in the future; 40 yrs my arse!!! they
>>>> won't
>>>> > be around to take responsibility.
>>>> The subs are useless. What we have otherwise is fine for what might
>>>> happen.
>>>> > ScoMo perform well when he was minster, and in his early days as PM.
>>>> He
>>>> > then slacked off, esp. after winning the last election (almost by
>>>> > fluke!!!).
>>>> It was no fluke, the voters didn't buy Shorten's stupiditys and
>>>> even Albo noticed that and tossed them ALL in the bin.
>>>>
>>>> And ScoMo actually delivered one of the best
>>>> covid results in the entire fucking world.
>>>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>>
>>> Morrison likes to take credit when things go well,
>>
>> Corse no other polly ever does anything like that, eh ?
>>
>> and its "never his
>>> fault" when things turn bad.
>>
>> Corse no other polly ever does anything like that, eh ?
>>
>>> The good covid results are achieved by the States, not Morrison.
>>
>> More mindless bullshit and lies with the very early shutting of
>> the borders by ScoMo which was the main reason we did do
>> well, and with the organising of local production of the vaccine.
>>
>>> It's the States that wanted the lockdown,
>>
>> BULLSHIT.
>>
>>> esp in the early stages when there was no vaccines.
>>
>> More mindless bullshit and lies.
>>
>>> It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the
>>> States do a lockdown !!!!
>>
>> More mindless bullshit and lies.

> The Labor/Greens Alliance has made the same mistake as last time.

There is no alliance this time. Albo has binned all the stupid greenshit..

> They try and make it a Presidential style election rather than a
> debate on policies.

That's not true either. Albo has announced lots of policy stuff.

And done the usual shit slinging about ScoMo.

> They gave their man Mr Albo/bandt

That isnt the case this time.

> a makeover and thought that would be enough.

Nope, they stupidly went for that dud Albo when the voters
made it clear what they thought of that fool Shorten.

> Backfired again.

Yep

> ScoMo is way ahead in the preferred Prime Minister
> polls, and getting further ahead.

That isn't what determines who will be the govt and will see
Albo have to fall on his sword, like Shorten and Gillard did.

> Now Labor’s shadow front bench have
> also been exposed as incompetent and hypocritical.

Interesting how quiet Marles and Plibersek have been,
bet they are polishing their Labor leader badges.

> The socialists have tried to take voters for fools again.
> Shame for them that most of us still remember the chaos of the
> Rudd/Gillard/Rudd days.

Yeah, down they go in flames, again.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:06:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>> *MAGA Rebrand Markets Trump As A Fascist Savior*
>>>>>>>>>> /The Young Turks/
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiffcVEjlf0>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Some of Donald Trump’s supporters are looking to rebrand the
>>>>>>>>>> MAGA
>>>>>>>>>> movement into something more authoritarian, calling it “Dark
>>>>>>>>>> MAGA”.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> group wants Trump to be more ruthless when confronting his
>>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>>> opponents in 2024 and is even adopting a more dystopian and
>>>>>>>>>> aggressive
>>>>>>>>>> aesthetic style to market the campaign."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He is facing a problem with governor Ron DeSantis priming himself
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the 2024 election. Ron is pretty similar to Trump, except he is a
>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>> smarter than Don.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DeSantis is more moderate than Trump in some ways. The next US
>>>>>>>> Presidential election should prove interesting you have Trump a
>>>>>>>> total
>>>>>>>> idiot and loser, Biden a total idiot and airhead, then rumors of
>>>>>>>> Hillary and DeSantis. Maybe Elon Musk will run. ;-)) (kidding).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump is all about personal ego and Biden his Green Knew Deal,
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> if it destroys the economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing would destroy the economy. Even the Great Depression didn't
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That sounds like a snowflake response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you need a hearing aid, BAD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congress decides on what happens, not the president, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> WOW All these Presidential executive orders are fake news then.
>>>
>>> None of those has any possibility of DESTROYING THE ECONOMY, fuckwit.
>>
>> OK, little snowflake.
>
>You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag,
>you stupid drug crazed drunken fuckwit.

First off, I do not need to bullshit my way out of anything. Second,
were you looking in the mirror or at a picture of your mother when you
said "stupid drug crazed drunken fuckwit"? Are you a crack baby?
That would explain much. Are you related to Arindam Banerjee?

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *MAGA Rebrand Markets Trump As A Fascist Savior*
>>>>>>>>>>> /The Young Turks/
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiffcVEjlf0>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Some of Donald Trump’s supporters are looking to rebrand the
>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA
>>>>>>>>>>> movement into something more authoritarian, calling it “Dark
>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA”.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> group wants Trump to be more ruthless when confronting his
>>>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>>>> opponents in 2024 and is even adopting a more dystopian and
>>>>>>>>>>> aggressive
>>>>>>>>>>> aesthetic style to market the campaign."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He is facing a problem with governor Ron DeSantis priming
>>>>>>>>>> himself
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the 2024 election. Ron is pretty similar to Trump, except he is
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>> smarter than Don.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DeSantis is more moderate than Trump in some ways. The next US
>>>>>>>>> Presidential election should prove interesting you have Trump a
>>>>>>>>> total
>>>>>>>>> idiot and loser, Biden a total idiot and airhead, then rumors of
>>>>>>>>> Hillary and DeSantis. Maybe Elon Musk will run. ;-)) (kidding).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump is all about personal ego and Biden his Green Knew Deal,
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> if it destroys the economy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing would destroy the economy. Even the Great Depression
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That sounds like a snowflake response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you need a hearing aid, BAD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Congress decides on what happens, not the president, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> WOW All these Presidential executive orders are fake news then..
>>>>
>>>> None of those has any possibility of DESTROYING THE ECONOMY, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> OK, little snowflake.
>>
>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag,
>> you stupid drug crazed drunken fuckwit.

> First off, I do not need to bullshit my way out of anything.

Obvious lie with that mindless shit of yours above.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 07:59:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Snip
>>>> It's the States that wanted the lockdown,
>>>
>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>
>>>> esp in the early stages when there was no vaccines.
>>>
>>> More mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>
>>>> It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the
>>>> States do a lockdown !!!!
>>>
>>> More mindless bullshit and lies.
>
>> The Labor/Greens Alliance has made the same mistake as last time.
>
>There is no alliance this time. Albo has binned all the stupid greenshit.
>
I don't believe that. Albo is a commie and lies like one
>
>> They try and make it a Presidential style election rather than a
>> debate on policies.
>
>That's not true either. Albo has announced lots of policy stuff.
>
Like Very Fast Train, No carbon tax on coal mines, Turnback policy for
Moslem refugees
All commie lies he will do the opposite
>
>And done the usual shit slinging about ScoMo.
>
>> They gave their man Mr Albo/bandt
>
>That isnt the case this time.
>
He has been found plagiarizing speech's like Biden does
Like Biden he is always caught at it
>
>> a makeover and thought that would be enough.
>
>Nope, they stupidly went for that dud Albo when the voters
>made it clear what they thought of that fool Shorten.
>
>> Backfired again.
>
>Yep
>
>> ScoMo is way ahead in the preferred Prime Minister
>> polls, and getting further ahead.
>
>That isn't what determines who will be the govt and will see
>Albo have to fall on his sword, like Shorten and Gillard did.
>
>> Now Labor’s shadow front bench have
>> also been exposed as incompetent and hypocritical.
>
>Interesting how quiet Marles and Plibersek have been,
>bet they are polishing their Labor leader badges.
>
>> The socialists have tried to take voters for fools again.
>> Shame for them that most of us still remember the chaos of the
>> Rudd/Gillard/Rudd days.
>
>Yeah, down they go in flames, again.
>
Australia right now needs a governing government, independents don't
cut it.
The choice voters need is one in the box for Labor or Coalition, will
be destructive if Federal Parliament is a hung one.
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.

On 27/04/2022 1:08 am, Paul Koh wrote:
> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 7:57:13 am UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> McCoy <mccoy...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Fran wrote
>>>> Daniel65 wrote
>>
>>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
>>>>>> Trevor Wilson:
>>>>>
>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
>>>>>>> wants to be PM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming true.
>>>>>
>>>>> If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>>>> It's a certainty that SloMo will go (although the timing is up for
>>>> debate) and then it becomes between Dutton and Freydenburg. Of the two,
>>>> I'd back Freydenberg as being the preferred LNP leader. BUT both Dutton
>>>> and Freydenberg have got a contest on their hands as to re-election and
>>>> I think this is going to be a really close election. There was soem
>>>> sculduggery in Dickson (Dutton's seat) last time by one particular LNP
>>>> supporter so it'll be interesting to see if that is repeated this time
>>>> round. You might also remember the sculduggery in Freydenberg's seat
>>>> last time round where election signs in Chinese using teh AEC colour
>>>> were put right next to AEC signage at booths - of course these signs
>>>> said to vote for Josh.
>>>>> How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>>>> 19%. He'll get back in as sadly they don't seem to be bothered by his
>>>> character defects.
>>>
>>> Those LNP characters, eg Dutton and ScoMo, are big bullshiters, a lot of
>>> hot air, but deliver nothing!!!
>> More of your mindless bullshit. ScoMo actually delivered
>> one of the best covid results in the entire fucking world.
>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>>
>> Dutton dumped Labor's stupid submarine utter fiasco.
>>> They tried to frighten the public into voting them back in on national
>>> security grounds,
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> and yet have given us nothing
>>> concrete to improve our national security.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> If the current situation is as dire as they say,
>> They have never said that.
>>> we need to be armed to the teeth now.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> We can't wait 40 years to get our nuclear power subs.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> The war would be well and truly over by then.
>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>> Typical LNP political bullshit !!!
>> Corse Albo has proposed something very different in that area, eh.
>>> Promise the people something in the future; 40 yrs my arse!!! they won't
>>> be around to take responsibility.
>> The subs are useless. What we have otherwise is fine for what might happen.
>>> ScoMo perform well when he was minster, and in his early days as PM. He
>>> then slacked off, esp. after winning the last election (almost by
>>> fluke!!!).
>> It was no fluke, the voters didn't buy Shorten's stupiditys and
>> even Albo noticed that and tossed them ALL in the bin.
>>
>> And ScoMo actually delivered one of the best
>> covid results in the entire fucking world.
>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.

Bullshit. Our early response was excellent. Then we had the bungled
'strollout' of vaccines.

The Lowy Institute ransk Austrlaia as no. 9 in it's response to Covid.
https://interactives.lowyinstitute.org/features/covid-performance/#rankings

>
> Morrison likes to take credit when things go well, and its "never his fault" when things turn bad.

Yep.

> The good covid results are achieved by the States, not Morrison.

Yep. Morrison was responsible for the slow vaccine rollout.

> It's the States that wanted the lockdown, esp in the early stages when there was no vaccines.
> It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the States do a lockdown !!!!

:-))

On 26/04/2022 7:41 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote on 25/4/22 3:45 am:
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
>>>> Trevor Wilson:
>>
>>>>> Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
>>>>> wants to be PM.
>>
>>>>  That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming true.
>>
>>> If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>>
>> No chance imo.
>>
>>> How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>>
>> 19%, no chance of him losing.
>
> Ah!! O.K., thank you! So we're safe from PM Dutton .... for the time being!

No, we're not yet safe. If the LNP loses at the election, Morrison will
be out on his ear. If that happens, the Libs in opposition would get a
new leader.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:23:30 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 26/04/2022 7:41 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/4/22 3:45 am:
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
>>>>> Trevor Wilson:
>>>
>>>>>> Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
>>>>>> wants to be PM.
>>>
>>>>>  That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming true.
>>>
>>>> If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>>>
>>> No chance imo.
>>>
>>>> How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>>>
>>> 19%, no chance of him losing.
>>
>> Ah!! O.K., thank you! So we're safe from PM Dutton .... for the time being!
>
>No, we're not yet safe. If the LNP loses at the election, Morrison will
>be out on his ear. If that happens, the Libs in opposition would get a
>new leader.
>
Low likelihood of known commie Albo getting in on his platform of
lies.
Even his own party don't stick with his lies (probably all
backstabbing already)
<https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/federal-election/election-2022-14-labor-mps-who-reject-boat-turnbacks/news-story/2f76748f277f1e3f216ba3c6a01d1682>
https://tinyurl.com/y5rwzu3b
Election 2022: 14 Labor MPs who reject boat turnbacks
More than a dozen Labor MPs including potential ministers in an
Albanese government have publicly opposed the government’s policy of
turning back asylum seeker boats. See the list.
Murray Watt – QLD Labor Senator
Shadow Minister for Natural Disaster and Emergency Management
“I do not think that pursuing turnbacks and offshore processing is in
line with our long term Labor values.”
(Murray Watt, Speech to ALP National Conference, July 2015)

Dr Michael Freelander – Labor Member for Macarthur
“I would hate to think we would be torturing children in a place like
Manus Island – in a concentration camp and I could never support that.
On a personal basis I believe it should be closed down and they should
be processed in Australia. What we’re doing is cruel.”
(Dr Michael Freelander, Daily Telegraph, 12/5/2016)

Sue Templeman – Labor Member for Macquarie
“ … I will be voting against turnbacks this afternoon (at the ALP
National Conference), as are many in my party.”
(July 22, 2015)

Fiona Phillips – Labor Member for Gilmore
“We ask you, Dear Delegate, to join with the ACTU in demanding … an
end to turn-backs of boats carrying asylum seekers.”
– as a signatory to Open Letter to Delegates to 2015 Australian Labor
Party National Conference

“Labor’s policy is now very sadly silent on the issue of turnbacks.
But onwards & upwards we fight for improvements and negotiate from
within.”
(July 25, 2015)

Pat Conroy – Member for Shortland (formerly Charlton)
Assistant Minister for Climate Change and Energy
“Oh look I voted against turnbacks, but the important thing is there
was a very good debate and we had some excellent contributions on both
sides and the party’s position has been resolved and that is the
position we’ll take to the next election.”
(July 27, 2015)

Josh Wilson – Labor Member for Fremantle
Shadow Assistant Minister for the Environment
“ … end the cruel and inhumane system of offshore detention … and
immediately ceasing the practice of boat turnbacks.”
– as a signatory to a petition by the Fremantle Refugee Rights Action
Network
(February 26, 2016)

Anne Aly – Labor Member for Cowan
“What I do believe is that Australia cannot continue doing what it is
doing now.”
(February 29, 2016)

Sue Lines – Labor Senator for Western Australia
“[PNG Supreme Court’s decision is] a chance for a rethink on offshore
processing.”
(April 28, 2016)

Brian Mitchell – Labor Member for Lyons
“Immigration Processing should be onshore”
(August 6, 2011)

Andrew Giles Labor Member for Scullin
Shadow Minister for Cities and Urban Infrastructure; Multicultural
Affairs
“But I do disagree with you when it comes to turnbacks. I am
unconvinced by their effectiveness. I regard them as inherently
unsafe”
– speech to ALP Conference, July 25, 2015)

Steve Georganas – Labor Member for Adelaide
“The ridiculous suggestion from the (Liberal) opposition that their
policy is the solution to all of Australia’s troubles and the only
policy that will work — that of turning the boats around when it is
safe to do so — betrays their cynicism. It is perfectly clear from all
advice that there are no situations in which it would be safe to do
so.”
(Hansard, September 11, 2012)

David Smith – Labor Member for Bean
“I support the CAPSA campaign to close the centres on Nauru and Manus
Island and for a longer term commitment to better treatment of our
brothers and sisters”
(Facebook, October 24, 2015)
--
Petzl

Islam is of course synonymous with terrorism
There are more Australian Muslims fighting with al Qaeda linked
groups than there are in the Australian Defence Force fighting against them!
..
Major majority of the worlds refugees are created by Islam since the
days of Mohammad. Mainly because Islam is actually a violent political
process, not a religion at all.
Islamic conquests have always been by infiltration (Trojan Horse:
Al-Hijra, The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration). This is how Islam
grows, a violent political process using , terrorist attack from
within, eventually followed by surprise attack, followed by killing
for killings sake.
Once Moslems have foothold maintaining rule is held by continued
carnage and ruthlessness.
Until it's recognized Islam is the problem nothing will change!
How Islam began and still violently grows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERou_Q5l9Gw

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> It's the States that wanted the lockdown,

>>>> BULLSHIT.

>>>>> esp in the early stages when there was no vaccines.

>>>> More mindless bullshit and lies.

>>>>> It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the
>>>>> States do a lockdown !!!!

>>>> More mindless bullshit and lies.

>>> The Labor/Greens Alliance has made the same mistake as last time.

>> There is no alliance this time. Albo has binned all the stupid
>> greenshit.

> I don't believe that.

I do, have fun naming any of the greenshit he hasn't binned.

He has even told the coal miners that he will never shut
down any coal mining or coal fired power stations. Just
doesnt have the balls to tell all the voters that.

> Albo is a commie

Nope, just another stupid lefty.

> and lies like one

All pollys lie, you don't get to be a polly if you don't.

>>> They try and make it a Presidential style election rather than a
>>> debate on policies.

>> That's not true either. Albo has announced lots of policy stuff.

> Like Very Fast Train, No carbon tax on coal mines, Turnback policy for
> Moslem refugees

> All commie lies

Nope.

> he will do the opposite

No chance, even Albo isn't actually stupid enough to
fuck over coal mines, because he has no chance of
being the govt if the miners don't vote for his candidates.

>> And done the usual shit slinging about ScoMo.

>>> They gave their man Mr Albo/bandt

>> That isnt the case this time.

> He has been found plagiarizing speech's

Sure, but all pollys do that shit.

> like Biden does

Like all pollys do.

> Like Biden he is always caught at it

Like all pollys do.

>>> a makeover and thought that would be enough.

>> Nope, they stupidly went for that dud Albo when the voters
>> made it clear what they thought of that fool Shorten.

>>> Backfired again.

>> Yep

>>> ScoMo is way ahead in the preferred Prime Minister
>>> polls, and getting further ahead.

>> That isn't what determines who will be the govt and will see
>> Albo have to fall on his sword, like Shorten and Gillard did.

>>> Now Labor’s shadow front bench have
>>> also been exposed as incompetent and hypocritical.

>> Interesting how quiet Marles and Plibersek have been,
>> bet they are polishing their Labor leader badges.

>>> The socialists have tried to take voters for fools again.
>>> Shame for them that most of us still remember the chaos of the
>>> Rudd/Gillard/Rudd days.

>> Yeah, down they go in flames, again.

> Australia right now needs a governing government,

No more so than normal, we have survived covid very well,
one of the 3 best in the entire world of substantial countrys.

> independents don't
> cut it.

Yeah, complete waste of a vote. Steggall and
Phelps haven't got anything whatever done.

> The choice voters need is one in the box for Labor or Coalition, will
> be destructive if Federal Parliament is a hung one.

Can't see it happening this time given that Albo is so completely useless.

Imo it is unlikely that any of the independants will get up.

Going to be interesting to see if Steggall gets the bums rush like Phelps
did when their electorate realises how useless independants are.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:21:24 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:

> On 27/04/2022 1:08 am, Paul Koh wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 7:57:13 am UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> McCoy <mccoy...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Fran wrote
>>>>> Daniel65 wrote
>>>
>>>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
>>>>>>>> wants to be PM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming
>>>>>>> true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>>>>> It's a certainty that SloMo will go (although the timing is up for
>>>>> debate) and then it becomes between Dutton and Freydenburg. Of the
>>>>> two,
>>>>> I'd back Freydenberg as being the preferred LNP leader. BUT both
>>>>> Dutton
>>>>> and Freydenberg have got a contest on their hands as to re-election
>>>>> and
>>>>> I think this is going to be a really close election. There was soem
>>>>> sculduggery in Dickson (Dutton's seat) last time by one particular
>>>>> LNP
>>>>> supporter so it'll be interesting to see if that is repeated this
>>>>> time
>>>>> round. You might also remember the sculduggery in Freydenberg's seat
>>>>> last time round where election signs in Chinese using teh AEC colour
>>>>> were put right next to AEC signage at booths - of course these signs
>>>>> said to vote for Josh.
>>>>>> How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>>>>> 19%. He'll get back in as sadly they don't seem to be bothered by his
>>>>> character defects.
>>>>
>>>> Those LNP characters, eg Dutton and ScoMo, are big bullshiters, a lot
>>>> of
>>>> hot air, but deliver nothing!!!
>>> More of your mindless bullshit. ScoMo actually delivered
>>> one of the best covid results in the entire fucking world.
>>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.
>>>
>>> Dutton dumped Labor's stupid submarine utter fiasco.
>>>> They tried to frighten the public into voting them back in on national
>>>> security grounds,
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> and yet have given us nothing
>>>> concrete to improve our national security.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> If the current situation is as dire as they say,
>>> They have never said that.
>>>> we need to be armed to the teeth now.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> We can't wait 40 years to get our nuclear power subs.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> The war would be well and truly over by then.
>>> More of your mindless bullshit and lies.
>>>> Typical LNP political bullshit !!!
>>> Corse Albo has proposed something very different in that area, eh.
>>>> Promise the people something in the future; 40 yrs my arse!!! they
>>>> won't
>>>> be around to take responsibility.
>>> The subs are useless. What we have otherwise is fine for what might
>>> happen.
>>>> ScoMo perform well when he was minster, and in his early days as PM..
>>>> He
>>>> then slacked off, esp. after winning the last election (almost by
>>>> fluke!!!).
>>> It was no fluke, the voters didn't buy Shorten's stupiditys and
>>> even Albo noticed that and tossed them ALL in the bin.
>>>
>>> And ScoMo actually delivered one of the best
>>> covid results in the entire fucking world.
>>> Only Taiwan and New zealand did any better.

> Bullshit.

Fact, actually.

> Our early response was excellent.

Yep, and it was NSW that fucked up spectacularly
with the Ruby Princess utter fiasco and then later
with stupidity with the limo driver. And then Vic
with its stupidity with their quarantine hotels.

> Then we had the bungled 'strollout' of vaccines.

More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit. We got a
much higher vaccination rate than almost anywhere
else in the entire world quicker than almost anywhere
else and what matters, a lower per capita death rate
than almost anywhere else that had a substantial rate
of covid infections.

> The Lowy Institute ransk Austrlaia as no. 9 in it's response to Covid.
> https://interactives.lowyinstitute.org/features/covid-performance/#rankings

Pity those that did better had sweet fuck all foreigners showing up
apart from sheepshaggerland and Taiwan and there is bugger all
in it in the ranking of the top ten.

>> Morrison likes to take credit when things go well, and its "never his
>> fault" when things turn bad.
>
> Yep.
>
>> The good covid results are achieved by the States, not Morrison.
>
> Yep. Morrison was responsible for the slow vaccine rollout.

He was actually responsible for getting the vaccine produced
locally very quickly. The problem was that it had a real problem
that it couldn't be used for such a large percentage of the
population.

>> It's the States that wanted the lockdown, esp in the early stages when
>> there was no vaccines.
>> It was the federal govt that was bitterly complaining ever time the
>> States do a lockdown !!!!
>
> :-))

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:23:30 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:

> On 26/04/2022 7:41 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/4/22 3:45 am:
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>> Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil wrote on 24/4/22 9:28 am:
>>>>> Trevor Wilson:
>>>
>>>>>> Highly relevant, given they are very important issues and Dutton
>>>>>> wants to be PM.
>>>
>>>>> That scenario would be like Australia's worst nightmare coming true.
>>>
>>>> If ScoMo goes, Dutton could be next PM.
>>>
>>> No chance imo.
>>>
>>>> How safe is ScoMo?? What's his margin??
>>>
>>> 19%, no chance of him losing.
>> Ah!! O.K., thank you! So we're safe from PM Dutton .... for the time
>> being!
>
> No, we're not yet safe. If the LNP loses at the election, Morrison will
> be out on his ear.

Not a chance.

> If that happens, the Libs in opposition would get a new leader.

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2004-12-26 00:58:53 (UTC)"

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2011-03-11 05:46:24 (UTC)"

Duration: 3263327 minutes

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Obviously the central bank must raise interest rates from 0.1 to 0.25%
next week. Rarely do they change the rate during election campaign.
Bad bad bad...

On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 15:50:19 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>I loathe the man but I've got to hand it to him - he's prepared. He
>sounds like he's across the issues and so does not stuff up as badly as
>others have done. (That is not saying that he isn't lying through his
>teeth but rather, he looks and sounds like he's on the ball - possibly
>that stems from his time as a walloper and having to appear in court).
>
Clive Palmer sounds better!
--
Petzl
Australian's continue to vote for and believe slogans?

"My first act as Prime Minister will be to raise the speed limit, lower the
fines, cancel the tolls. ban any future virus lock downs.
Thank you " Anthony Albanese

Petz's latest Goon-bag-fumes delusions:

> Fran
>>I loathe the man but I've got to hand it to him - he's prepared. He
>>sounds like he's across the issues and so does not stuff up as badly as
>>others have done. (That is not saying that he isn't lying through his
>>teeth but rather, he looks and sounds like he's on the ball - possibly
>>that stems from his time as a walloper and having to appear in court).
>>
> Clive Palmer sounds better!

Better than what?

Corporate plutocracy?
We already have that even w/o Clive!

100% unashamed and disgusting corruption?
We already have that even w/o Clive!

Screwing over the under classes?
We already have that even w/o Clive!

The only thing Clive can be credited for is shovelling votes to the LNP.
And that's the full extent of his candidature.

~~~
~~~
Re: Idiotic Petz sig:

> Australian's continue to vote for and believe slogans?

You certainly do! Your whole political activity here is nothing but
regurgitating alt-right talking points, slogans ande conspiracy theories.

The following bullshit crap is certainly NOT what anyone from Labor ever
promised. Thank goodness for that:

> "My first act as Prime Minister will be to raise the speed limit,
> lower the fines, cancel the tolls. ban any future virus lock downs.

BTW you have already posted that crap attributed to varying other
politicians too...so bloody well make up your mind. (Drink less to remeber
your previous lies better).
~~

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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
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supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables, idiots like
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