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* USA to blameArindam Banerjee
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Re: USA to blame

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:36 UTC

On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >- snip -
> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
> >> >>
> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media war, and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for the link.
> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all those who
> >> > suffered from colonialism.
> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
> >> >
> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the removal of
> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800 Million
> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not NATO).
> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a third
> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
> >
> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look at them.
> >
> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
> Putin's Russia did not invade!
> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same playbook
> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
Got rid of the ISIS in Syria, and the equivalent in Chechnya.
You have problems with that?
> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always
> have done this is nothing new.
I don't agree.
> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
They better get out.
> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
> society.
Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
> >> Most Voters wanted to join EU allowing benefits for Ukraine citizens.
> >
> >Very stupid.
> >As UK shows, it makes sense to get OUT of EU.
> >
> Was for UK.
> --
> Petzl

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On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 11:44:01 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who prefer to
> >> propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and those do
> >> don't, and want to educate themselves.
>
> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media war, and
> >> he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>
> > Thanks for the link.
>
> > Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians
> Bullshit.
No, dumbfuck. You have no clue about Indians.
> > and all those who suffered from colonialism.
> More of your bullshit and lies.
Not so, dumbfuck.
> And in fact almost all of them didn't "suffer" colonialism,
> they benefitted from that very dramatically, including you.
> > Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
> Bullshit it is.
wrong as ever, dumbfuck.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:10 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:36:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >- snip -
>> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who
>> prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and
>> those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media war,
>> and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks for the link.
>> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all those who
>> >> > suffered from colonialism.
>> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
>> >> >
>> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the removal of
>> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800 Million
>> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not NATO).
>> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a third
>> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
>> >
>> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look at them.
>> >
>> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
>> Putin's Russia did not invade!
>> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
>> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same playbook
>> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.

> Got rid of the ISIS in Syria,

Not single handedly he didnt.

> and the equivalent in Chechnya.

ISIS was never in Chechnya.

> You have problems with that?

Just with your bare faced lies.

>> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
>> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always
>> have done this is nothing new.

> I don't agree.

Your problem, as always.

>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.

> They better get out.

Why should they have to ?

>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>> society.

> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.

And when arseholes like Putin invade.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:13 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:37:58 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 11:44:01 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who prefer to
>> >> propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and those do
>> >> don't, and want to educate themselves.
>>
>> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media war, and
>> >> he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>>
>> > Thanks for the link.
>>
>> > Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians

>> Bullshit.

> No

Fraid so.

> You have no clue about Indians.

You have no fucking clue about anything, as always.

>> > and all those who suffered from colonialism.

>> More of your bullshit and lies.

> Not so

Fraid so.

, dumbfuck.

>> And in fact almost all of them didn't "suffer" colonialism,
>> they benefitted from that very dramatically, including you.

>> > Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.

>> Bullshit it is.

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 by: Petzl - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:58 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>> society.
>
>Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>
You are a arrogant hateful fuckwit!

There are rules of war which Putin ignores concerning civilian
targets, Putin always targets heavily, residential civilian areas with
hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.

Putin has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
societies.
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

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On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:37:58 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 11:44:01 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who prefer to
>> >> propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and those do
>> >> don't, and want to educate themselves.
>>
>> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media war, and
>> >> he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>>
>> > Thanks for the link.
>>
>> > Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians
>> Bullshit.
>No, dumbfuck. You have no clue about Indians.
>> > and all those who suffered from colonialism.
>> More of your bullshit and lies.
>Not so, dumbfuck.
>> And in fact almost all of them didn't "suffer" colonialism,
>> they benefitted from that very dramatically, including you.
>> > Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
>> Bullshit it is.
>wrong as ever, dumbfuck.
>
Ukrainians have fucked India's cheap Russian oil supply.
Probable they will have no other suppliers.
--
Petzl
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves
amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling
through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar
to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he
appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He
rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night
to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so
that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.

- Marcus Tullius Cicero

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:18:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:18:35 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
><banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 07:34:54 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 01:03:25 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl
>>> <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb
>>> <trdel...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl
>>> <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb
>>> <trdel...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the
>>> pipelines.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur
>>> content (sour)!
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted
>>> to stop
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of oil
>>> to rise.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy
>>> electric cars. The
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure
>>> at this time to
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar
>>> system that can
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an
>>> electric car, but they
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric
>>> car.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your
>>> Solar panels to
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap
>>> (AU$37K) and there is a
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for auto-recharge
>>> with
>>> >> >> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full
>>> hydrogen cylinder?
>>> >> >> >> >> >> That not enough?
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> And cheaper also
>>> >> >> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very
>>> expensive.
>>> >> >> >> >> May not even work
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>> non-polluting.
>>> >> >> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and
>>> the
>>> >> >> >> power grid need upkeep also.
>>> >> >> >Idiot.
>>> >> >> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so the
>>> >> >> power isn't free.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives power
>>> freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.
>>> >> You still need to build, repair and a way to transmit the poser.
>>> >> That isn't free.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>> >> >> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power that
>>> you
>>> >> >> will see on your bills?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and it
>>> will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the
>>> electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say.
>>> Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!
>>> >> Well, I can only guess what we will have in 200 years. Humans may
>>> >> not exist or be back in the stone age with Putin threatening to use
>>> >> and testing nuclear weapons
>>> >
>>> >So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.
>
>>> Then you have no problem if Putin starts a nuclear war.
>
>> It is US who will be responsible.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

Agree. Sure this isn't a Russian agent? I mean he does fit the
limited IQ level.
>
>> Prof Mersheimer will agree.
>
>That fool is completely irrelevant, and so are you.
>
>> The US is behind all major ills, such as covid.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
>It wasnt the US that set up the USSR, fuckwit.
>
>Or fucked over Chechnya, Georgia, grabbed the Crimea
>and is now trying to do that with the Ukraine.
>
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the HTN
>>> for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or
>>> brackish water as a bonus.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits
>>> shown in
>>> >> >> >> >Htnresearch.com
>>> >> >> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy. Piping
>>> hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and
>>> connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and
>>> deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
>>> >> >> >> > -
>>> >> >> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote the
>>> HTN was well received.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the
>>> negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are bad,
>>> for so many reasons.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the
>>> hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and
>>> transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could go
>>> for it.
>>> >>
>>> >> > No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at best
>>> and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean,
>>> run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start
>>> disasters given the chance.
>>> >> Why are you in Australia if you are such a supporter of tyranny?
>>> >
>>> >You USAns are tyrannical fools.
>>> >Australians are good.
>>> Some are.
>>> >So I am happy here.
>>> Good but why do you badmouth other people from India for not
>>> staying?
>
>> Only those who break their promises
>
>Those who had enough of a clue to leave India didnt do anything like that.
>
>> and have no loyalty.
>
>Why should they be loyal to a fucked state ?
>
>> I do not badmouth them as such, just say they are cowardly opportunists
>
>Just like you. Nothing cowardly about giving up on a fucked state.
>
>> like most humans. Nothing to be proud about.
>
>More mindless bullshit.
>
>>> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Batteries should never even be considered for any high power
>>> consistent use, but there you go!
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >For a Genghis Khan, no sweat about seeing the beauty of the
>>> HTN and immediately going for it.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >But we have Greta instead whom all will consider to be better!
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >May hope never die!
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Cheers,
>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >> >> Petzl
>>> >> >> >> >> Make Australia Great Again
>>> >> >> >> >> MAGA
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Mark Latham has seen the light
>>> >> >> >> >> Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One
>>> Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
>>> >> >> >> >> *LAST*, Federal State and Council!


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On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:36:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
><banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >- snip -
>>> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who
>>> prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and
>>> those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media war,
>>> and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Thanks for the link.
>>> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all those who
>>> >> > suffered from colonialism.
>>> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
>>> >> >
>>> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the removal of
>>> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800 Million
>>> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not NATO).
>>> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a third
>>> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
>>> >
>>> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look at them.
>>> >
>>> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
>>> Putin's Russia did not invade!
>>> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
>>> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same playbook
>>> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
>
>> Got rid of the ISIS in Syria,
>
>Not single handedly he didnt.
>
>> and the equivalent in Chechnya.
>
>ISIS was never in Chechnya.
>
>> You have problems with that?
>
>Just with your bare faced lies.
>
>
>>> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
>>> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always
>>> have done this is nothing new.
>
>> I don't agree.
>
>Your problem, as always.
>
>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>
>> They better get out.
>
>Why should they have to ?
>
>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>> society.
>
>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>
>And when arseholes like Putin invade.

Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war. Moscow will
glow in the dark.

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:42:25 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 09:18:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:18:35 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 07:34:54 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 01:03:25 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:28:03 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 03:36:01 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, 19 April 2022 at 20:23:51 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:53:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:51:13 +1000, Petzl
>>>> <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:04:26 -0700, Mattb
>>>> <trdel...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:36:01 +1000, Petzl
>>>> <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:54:55 -0700, Mattb
>>>> <trdel...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be wrong with natural gas out of the
>>>> pipelines.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> That could be I was thinking of oil.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Also Russia's main oil export is high in sulfur
>>>> content (sour)!
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Very bad polluter.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> If that is true wonder why our (US) leftist wanted
>>>> to stop
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> producing oil in the USA and buy Russian.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> Because they are corrupt and wanted the price of
>>>> oil
>>>> to rise.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I have heard that rumor they want people to buy
>>>> electric cars. The
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sad thing is the USA doesn't have the infrastructure
>>>> at this time to
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply power to a quick turnover. I have a solar
>>>> system that can
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> supply the entire house and it is wired for an
>>>> electric car, but they
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> told me it could not do a fast charge of an electric
>>>> car.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Where do these idiots believe power will come from?
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Australia makes a hydrogen battery that can use your
>>>> Solar panels to
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> genrate hydrogen from tap wayer, but not cheap
>>>> (AU$37K) and there is a
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> five year wait for one at present.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> Looks interesting but is not feasible for
>>>> auto-recharge
>>>> with
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> limited voltage and wattage.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> It can deliver 5.000 watts for two days on one full
>>>> hydrogen cylinder?
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> That not enough?
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> >Nope, piss poor compared with a tank of petrol or diesel.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> And cheaper also
>>>> >> >> >> >> Not disagreeing this "Green" energy is hyped up and very
>>>> expensive.
>>>> >> >> >> >> May not even work
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Green energy is by definition free to all, forever and
>>>> non-polluting.
>>>> >> >> >> No there will still be upkeep and installation cost. That and
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >> power grid need upkeep also.
>>>> >> >> >Idiot.
>>>> >> >> You do not believe that the power systems will need upkeep, so
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> power isn't free.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >What maintenance is there for the sun to shine? The sun gives
>>>> power
>>>> freely. Like wind and sea and Earth.
>>>> >> You still need to build, repair and a way to transmit the poser.
>>>> >> That isn't free.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >You also don't believe the power grid will need
>>>> >> >> repair and maintenance and that there is a cost to the power
>>>> that
>>>> you
>>>> >> >> will see on your bills?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >The HTN is about managing all energy including green energy, and
>>>> it
>>>> will need a lot less maintenance being much, much more rugged than the
>>>> electric grid it will eventually replace. In another 200 years, say.
>>>> Who wants that ugly lossy weak unstable thing!
>>>> >> Well, I can only guess what we will have in 200 years. Humans may
>>>> >> not exist or be back in the stone age with Putin threatening to use
>>>> >> and testing nuclear weapons
>>>> >
>>>> >So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.
>>
>>>> Then you have no problem if Putin starts a nuclear war.
>>
>>> It is US who will be responsible.
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
> Agree. Sure this isn't a Russian agent?

Yep, just another stupid Putin sympathiser.

> I mean he does fit the
> limited IQ level.

That can't be right, he claims to leave Einstein and Gandhi for dead }-(

>>> Prof Mersheimer will agree.
>>
>> That fool is completely irrelevant, and so are you.
>>
>>> The US is behind all major ills, such as covid.
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>
>> It wasnt the US that set up the USSR, fuckwit.
>>
>> Or fucked over Chechnya, Georgia, grabbed the Crimea
>> and is now trying to do that with the Ukraine.
>>
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >In about 100 years, or 200,, the world will implement the
>>>> HTN
>>>> for getting unlimited energy everywhere. And pure water from sea or
>>>> brackish water as a bonus.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Slowly but steadily the world is understanding the benefits
>>>> shown in
>>>> >> >> >> >Htnresearch.com
>>>> >> >> >> >for the steady implementation of the Hydrogen economy.
>>>> Piping
>>>> hydrogen at steady pressure in lossless by design steel tubes, and
>>>> connected to storage buffers to take care of local surpluses and
>>>> deficits of production, thus providing smoothing in power distribtion.
>>>> >> >> >> > -
>>>> >> >> >> >My paper at the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait to promote
>>>> the
>>>> HTN was well received.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Progress on the hydrogen front has been steady, despite the
>>>> negativity of the battery-crazed Musk types. Lithium batteries are
>>>> bad,
>>>> for so many reasons.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >It will take a great leader to do that, go directly for the
>>>> hydrogen economy using the HTN, that will solve the storage and
>>>> transport ptoblem of hydrogen in one stroke.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Only a popular dictator like Hitler or Stalin or Mao could
>>>> go
>>>> for it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > No chance in a bad democratic system: lazy, fake, mediocre at
>>>> best
>>>> and corrupt, with no ideals except grab. Also, very stupid and mean,
>>>> run by shady lots, represented by clowns and fools who will start
>>>> disasters given the chance.
>>>> >> Why are you in Australia if you are such a supporter of tyranny?
>>>> >
>>>> >You USAns are tyrannical fools.
>>>> >Australians are good.
>>>> Some are.
>>>> >So I am happy here.
>>>> Good but why do you badmouth other people from India for not
>>>> staying?
>>
>>> Only those who break their promises
>>
>> Those who had enough of a clue to leave India didnt do anything like
>> that.
>>
>>> and have no loyalty.
>>
>> Why should they be loyal to a fucked state ?
>>
>>> I do not badmouth them as such, just say they are cowardly opportunists
>>
>> Just like you. Nothing cowardly about giving up on a fucked state.
>>
>>> like most humans. Nothing to be proud about.
>>
>> More mindless bullshit.
>>
>>>> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Batteries should never even be considered for any high power
>>>> consistent use, but there you go!
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >For a Genghis Khan, no sweat about seeing the beauty of the
>>>> HTN and immediately going for it.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >But we have Greta instead whom all will consider to be
>>>> better!
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >May hope never die!
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Cheers,
>>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> >> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> >> >> Petzl
>>>> >> >> >> >> Make Australia Great Again
>>>> >> >> >> >> MAGA
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> Mark Latham has seen the light
>>>> >> >> >> >> Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One
>>>> Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
>>>> >> >> >> >> *LAST*, Federal State and Council!


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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 00:05 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:50:05 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:36:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >- snip -
>>>> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who
>>>> prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and
>>>> those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media
>>>> war,
>>>> and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Thanks for the link.
>>>> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all those
>>>> who
>>>> >> > suffered from colonialism.
>>>> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the removal
>>>> of
>>>> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800
>>>> Million
>>>> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not NATO).
>>>> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a third
>>>> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
>>>> >
>>>> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look at
>>>> them.
>>>> >
>>>> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
>>>> Putin's Russia did not invade!
>>>> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
>>>> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same playbook
>>>> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
>>
>>> Got rid of the ISIS in Syria,
>>
>> Not single handedly he didnt.
>>
>>> and the equivalent in Chechnya.
>>
>> ISIS was never in Chechnya.
>>
>>> You have problems with that?
>>
>> Just with your bare faced lies.
>>
>>
>>>> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
>>>> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always
>>>> have done this is nothing new.
>>
>>> I don't agree.
>>
>> Your problem, as always.
>>
>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>
>>> They better get out.
>>
>> Why should they have to ?
>>
>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>> society.
>>
>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>
>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>
> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.

Nar, that shit is pure bluff. Even Putin isn't actually THAT stupid.

> Moscow will
> glow in the dark.

Nope, doesnt happen when a city gets nuked.

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 by: Mattb - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 00:14 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:05:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:50:05 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:36:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >- snip -
>>>>> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who
>>>>> prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and
>>>>> those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media
>>>>> war,
>>>>> and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Thanks for the link.
>>>>> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all those
>>>>> who
>>>>> >> > suffered from colonialism.
>>>>> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the removal
>>>>> of
>>>>> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800
>>>>> Million
>>>>> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not NATO).
>>>>> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a third
>>>>> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look at
>>>>> them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
>>>>> Putin's Russia did not invade!
>>>>> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
>>>>> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same playbook
>>>>> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
>>>
>>>> Got rid of the ISIS in Syria,
>>>
>>> Not single handedly he didnt.
>>>
>>>> and the equivalent in Chechnya.
>>>
>>> ISIS was never in Chechnya.
>>>
>>>> You have problems with that?
>>>
>>> Just with your bare faced lies.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
>>>>> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always
>>>>> have done this is nothing new.
>>>
>>>> I don't agree.
>>>
>>> Your problem, as always.
>>>
>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>
>>>> They better get out.
>>>
>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>
>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>> society.
>>>
>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>
>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>
>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>
>Nar, that shit is pure bluff. Even Putin isn't actually THAT stupid.

That is if he is sane.
>
>> Moscow will
>> glow in the dark.
>
>Nope, doesnt happen when a city gets nuked.

I know that.

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 00:37 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>
>>> They better get out.
>>
>>Why should they have to ?
>>
>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>> society.
>>
>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>
>>And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>
> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>Moscow will glow in the dark.
>
Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from
all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running the
USA!
--
Petzl
Yes the Ukraine has been a hothouse of corruption.
So is Putin's oligarchy run murder regime!
All the Ukraine wanted to do was join the European Union.
They were never candidates for NATO membership (another Putin lie)
The invasion tactics Putin is authorizing are the same war crimes, the
very same playbook used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.

The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
forces are not targeting civilians.

Just Russian lies, Russia always have done this is nothing new.
Putin always targets heavily, residential civilian areas with
hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
Putin has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
societies.

To avoid challenges to his murder campaign he threatens the free world
with a nuclear response, launching IBM during his frequent paranoid
temper tantrums, he sacked/replaced a 1,000 servants for fear of being
poisoned. Tea anyone?
https://ibb.co/sqwtV9h

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Petz's latest Goon-bag-fumes delusions:

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poster inputs /
/ snip more wanker crap manually /

> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from all
> westren nations.

Luckily for the whole planet your highly anticipated dream-bloodbath is
not going to happen due to still too many relatively rational human beings
present within the decision making levels of governments. Specially
European nations aren't too keen on getting nuked as a result of
bloodthirsty warmongering cretins running amok, like you, facilitating an
Armageddon.

> Not good having the coward of Kabul running the USA!

Yep spot on. The failed ex-president Trump planned withdrawal from
Afghanistan was eventually carried out fully by the next president after
Trump was too incompetent to carry through his own brainfart plan. Just
like that border wall to Mexico that was supposedly fully built and
financed by the Mexicans---NOT. LOL :P :P :P

**********

It's quite amusing how your alt-right loon private circle jerk club
featuring that metally defect Aridumb Berenjerk, the LNP brown-noser "I
know it all" Rod Speed and the unashamedly trolling septic-Yank Proud/
Bouncer boi MattB keep on going spewing ever more bizarre and ridiculous
bullshit. Well done...NOT! Luckily I seldom glimpse some slivers of what's
really goes down during your circle jerks ... already hard to stomach by
any rational human being.

~~~
~~~
Re: Cretin Petz sig

<snipped fully for the sake of maintaining some resemblence to rational
thinking in Usenet free of charge>
~~

--
Ördög - -
The real one (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)

Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables, idiots like
Petz and his fellow septic and OZ crazies.
They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 01:58:49 GMT, * Ördög * - - the Petz Buster -
<devil@your.scary.shadow.edu> wrote:

>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from all
>> westren nations.
Snip commie crap
One needs a lesson on how to deal with Putin's commie salami tactics
(taking nations slice by slice)
Overwhelming forces need to invade Russia on all sides simitaniously
let none escape, or be nuclear bombed!
Training video on how here
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5t4iz1
The Grand Design Yes Prime Minister
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Petzl
Something has to be done with the corrupt Stasi/KGB/SVR/FSB Putin!
Putin's Russia traditionally threatens the west with a nuclear attack
even when they did not have any.
Now during his temper tantrums he launches missiles into space!
Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same playbook
used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya. The Kremlin,
meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military forces are not
targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always have done this is
nothing new.
Putin always targets heavily, residential civilian areas with
hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
Putin has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
societies.

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On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 20:58:55 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
> >> society.
> >
> >Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
> >
> You are a arrogant hateful fuckwit!

No, I am a gentle humble kindly loving Australian senior, the greatest genius of all time, and sole god among lotsa devils
who being also a brown Hindu and not being in any way apologetic for same
naturally draws antipathy from the bigoted racist supremacists, fools, crazies, charlatans, impostors, devils, criminals, scoundrels, wannabes etc.
all being nicely entrenched institutions, and also in social media employing suppressive modes
but not avoided, merely exposed, for greater good
in the overflowing Usenet Rogues' Gallery of anti-Arindam exhibits
where you have made an entry, Petz, by squeezing in.

Congratulations. You have lots of company there, such exhibits collected over decades.

Keep on projecting in that company.

> There are rules of war which Putin ignores concerning civilian
> targets

Putin says that the Nazis are hiding there, so they are now military targets.

> Putin always targets heavily, residential civilian areas with
> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.

As Prof Mearsheimer says, the USA is to blame for the mess.

> Putin has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
> societies.

Alas, he is such a good student of the ways of the US foreign policy. Employs them, in his area.

> --
> Petzl
> Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
> Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
> behind them, a desert waste
> -- nothing escapes them....

Dreadful.
Looks like some really-really want desert waste and blazes.
What to do!

Life would be much better if people understood and worked on
e=0.5mVVN(N-k) -
c(v)=c+v
arcsin(sqrt(x^N)) + arcsin(sqrt(1-x^N)) = pi/2, 0<x<1, N>2 - indicating infinity

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:50:11 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:36:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
> ><banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >>> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >- snip -
> >>> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who
> >>> prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and
> >>> those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media war,
> >>> and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Thanks for the link.
> >>> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all those who
> >>> >> > suffered from colonialism.
> >>> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the removal of
> >>> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800 Million
> >>> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not NATO).
> >>> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a third
> >>> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
> >>> >
> >>> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look at them.
> >>> >
> >>> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
> >>> Putin's Russia did not invade!
> >>> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
> >>> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same playbook
> >>> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
> >
> >> Got rid of the ISIS in Syria,
> >
> >Not single handedly he didnt.
> >
> >> and the equivalent in Chechnya.
> >
> >ISIS was never in Chechnya.
> >
> >> You have problems with that?
> >
> >Just with your bare faced lies.
> >
> >
> >>> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
> >>> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always
> >>> have done this is nothing new.
> >
> >> I don't agree.
> >
> >Your problem, as always.
> >
> >>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
> >>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
> >
> >> They better get out.
> >
> >Why should they have to ?
> >
> >>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
> >>> society.
> >
> >> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
> >
> >And when arseholes like Putin invade.
> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war. Moscow will
> glow in the dark.

You think US will not be affected?
Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of the assailant?

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> Ukrainians have fucked India's cheap Russian oil supply.

No, India has got a very good deal from Russia. My Indian friends are ecstatic about it.
I hear that Austria and Switzerland have made a pi phase turn about Russian sanctions.
Russia is getting rubles for gas.
So the ruble has shot up.
Putin is smart.
The West is stupid.
Bad education, horrible US culture could be the reason for such stupidity.

> Probable they will have no other suppliers.

Wrong. Iran is there. Saudi too. Gulf. No problem.
> --
> Petzl

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On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 10:37:54 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
> >>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
> >>
> >>> They better get out.
> >>
> >>Why should they have to ?
> >>
> >>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
> >>>> society.
> >>
> >>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
> >>
> >>And when arseholes like Putin invade.
> >
> > Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
> >Moscow will glow in the dark.
> >
> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from
> all westren nations.

lmao,rotgw4pita

Not good having the coward of Kabul running the
> USA!

Some gleam of intelligence here, not all hope is lost.
> --
> Petzl
> Yes the Ukraine has been a hothouse of corruption.
> So is Putin's oligarchy run murder regime!
> All the Ukraine wanted to do was join the European Union.
> They were never candidates for NATO membership (another Putin lie)
> The invasion tactics Putin is authorizing are the same war crimes, the
> very same playbook used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
> forces are not targeting civilians.
> Just Russian lies, Russia always have done this is nothing new.
> Putin always targets heavily, residential civilian areas with
> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
> Putin has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
> societies.
>
> To avoid challenges to his murder campaign he threatens the free world
> with a nuclear response, launching IBM during his frequent paranoid
> temper tantrums, he sacked/replaced a 1,000 servants for fear of being
> poisoned. Tea anyone?
> https://ibb.co/sqwtV9h

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 02:49 UTC

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 11:58:50 UTC+10, * Ördög * - - the Petz Buster - wrote:
> Petz's latest Goon-bag-fumes delusions:
>
> / This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
> poster inputs /
> / snip more wanker crap manually /
> > Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from all
> > westren nations.
> Luckily for the whole planet your highly anticipated dream-bloodbath is
> not going to happen due to still too many relatively rational human beings
> present within the decision making levels of governments. Specially
> European nations aren't too keen on getting nuked as a result of
> bloodthirsty warmongering cretins running amok, like you, facilitating an
> Armageddon.

OrPoochie talks sense!

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 02:52 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:14:16 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:05:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:50:05 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:36:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >- snip -
>>>>>> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those who
>>>>>> prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media, and
>>>>>> those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the media
>>>>>> war,
>>>>>> and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Thanks for the link.
>>>>>> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all those
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> >> > suffered from colonialism.
>>>>>> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the
>>>>>> removal
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800
>>>>>> Million
>>>>>> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not NATO).
>>>>>> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a third
>>>>>> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look at
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
>>>>>> Putin's Russia did not invade!
>>>>>> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
>>>>>> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same
>>>>>> playbook
>>>>>> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
>>>>
>>>>> Got rid of the ISIS in Syria,
>>>>
>>>> Not single handedly he didnt.
>>>>
>>>>> and the equivalent in Chechnya.
>>>>
>>>> ISIS was never in Chechnya.
>>>>
>>>>> You have problems with that?
>>>>
>>>> Just with your bare faced lies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian military
>>>>>> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they always
>>>>>> have done this is nothing new.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't agree.
>>>>
>>>> Your problem, as always.
>>>>
>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>>
>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>
>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>
>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>>> society.
>>>>
>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>
>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>
>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>
>> Nar, that shit is pure bluff. Even Putin isn't actually THAT stupid.

> That is if he is sane.

Corse he is sane, just a psychopath.

>>> Moscow will
>>> glow in the dark.
>>
>> Nope, doesnt happen when a city gets nuked.
>
> I know that.

So why that stupidity ?

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> >>>> >So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.
> >>
> >>>> Then you have no problem if Putin starts a nuclear war.
> >>
> >>> It is US who will be responsible.
> >>
> >> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

No, it is not silly, just kind to the US, to say that if there is a nuclear war US will suffer far more than Russia.
As there is so much more in the US to destroy.
But people here are such incredible fools, they cannot understand this simple fact.
If there is nuclear war, China will win.
They will expand and dominate.
US will go back to hunting bison.
> >
> > Agree. Sure this isn't a Russian agent?
> Yep, just another stupid Putin sympathiser.

Nothing stupid about me.
Fools cannot understand genius.

> > I mean he does fit the
> > limited IQ level.
> That can't be right, he claims to leave Einstein and Gandhi for dead }-(

That I do.

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On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:39:53 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> Ukrainians have fucked India's cheap Russian oil supply.
>
>No, India has got a very good deal from Russia. My Indian friends are ecstatic about it.
>I hear that Austria and Switzerland have made a pi phase turn about Russian sanctions.
>Russia is getting rubles for gas.
>So the ruble has shot up.
>Putin is smart.
>The West is stupid.
>Bad education, horrible US culture could be the reason for such stupidity.
>
What ever ,the Ukrainians have destroyed the oil supply to India.
<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/25/large-fires-break-out-russian-oil-depots-bryansk-near-ukraine-border>
https://tinyurl.com/y6mgrube

>
>> Probable they will have no other suppliers.
>
>Wrong. Iran is there. Saudi too. Gulf. No problem.
>
Good luck with that.
Just more of your bullshir
Both may or maynot sell to Indi8a but only for top dollar.
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

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On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 13:08:00 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:39:53 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Ukrainians have fucked India's cheap Russian oil supply.
> >
> >No, India has got a very good deal from Russia. My Indian friends are ecstatic about it.
> >I hear that Austria and Switzerland have made a pi phase turn about Russian sanctions.
> >Russia is getting rubles for gas.
> >So the ruble has shot up.
> >Putin is smart.
> >The West is stupid.
> >Bad education, horrible US culture could be the reason for such stupidity.
> >
> What ever ,the Ukrainians have destroyed the oil supply to India.
> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/25/large-fires-break-out-russian-oil-depots-bryansk-near-ukraine-border>
> https://tinyurl.com/y6mgrube
> >
> >> Probable they will have no other suppliers.
> >
> >Wrong. Iran is there. Saudi too. Gulf. No problem.
> >
> Good luck with that.
Yes, Modi has good foreign policy.
> Just more of your bullshir
Now now. You do not have to imitate that stupid rude prick Rod Speed.
> Both may or maynot sell to Indi8a but only for top dollar.
That is unlikely and would make India buy more from Russia.
As things are, there is no issue about oil supply.
Prices go up anyway.
Nowhere for India near as bad as things are in Sri Lanka or Pakistan.
I will go there come December for a great time!

> --
> Petzl
> Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
> murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
> shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different
> "Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
> paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
> different!.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:21 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>
>>>> They better get out.
>>>
>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>
>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>> society.
>>>
>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>
>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>
>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>
> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from
> all westren nations.

Not going to happen because Putin would certainly use nukes then.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:46 UTC

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>> >>>> >So long as some few billions of humans remain, hopefully wiser.
>> >>
>> >>>> Then you have no problem if Putin starts a nuclear war.
>> >>
>> >>> It is US who will be responsible.
>> >>
>> >> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
> No, it is not silly, just kind to the US, to say that if there is a
> nuclear war

Taint gunna happen, you watch.

> US will suffer far more than Russia.

The important parts of Russia, where Putin hangs out,
will suffer just as much as the important parts of the USA.

The rest is irrelevant in both cases.

> As there is so much more in the US to destroy.

Yep, because Russia is such a hopeless country.

> But people here are such incredible fools, they cannot understand this
> simple fact.

The simple fact is that the bits of russia that Putin
cares about will get just as comprehensively
fucked as the best of the USA.

> If there is nuclear war, China will win.

More mindless bullshit. China has never
been interested in taking over anything
but a few places like Tibet.

> They will expand and dominate.

Not a chance. Their economy will be so completely
fucked by nowhere to export to anymore that they
will have enough trouble even getting enough oil
to do anything useful.

> US will go back to hunting bison.

Nope, the agricultural areas will do fine.

>> > Agree. Sure this isn't a Russian agent?

>> Yep, just another stupid Putin sympathiser.

> Nothing stupid about me.

Everything stupid about you.

> Fools cannot understand genius.

Yep, that's why a fool like you cannot understand Einstein.

>> > I mean he does fit the
>> > limited IQ level.

>> That can't be right, he claims to leave Einstein and Gandhi for dead }-(

> That I do.

Yep, you actually are that stupid.

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