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Re: USA to blame

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 23:19 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:04:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> modern
>> conventional weaps are high range and can compete with the force of a
>> nuclear bomb, even shelters a mile deep!
>
>But can do nothing about nuclear missile subs. Thats why the majors
>have nuclear missile subs, stupid.
>
Russian subs are just targets always targeted even now.
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 00:07 UTC

On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
> >> >Not as much as the US.
> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
> >
> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>
> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.

China will, without firing a shot.
We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>
> >So don't push it, fool.
>
> It is Putin that would push it.

It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.

> >
> >The
> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
> >
> >No.
>
> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
> the particulate matter would not also move around?

No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall to the ground
due to gravity.
The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>
>
> >
> >Depending on the
> >> winds.
> >
> >Only local damage.
>
> Bullshit.

Your god Rod is infectious!
Stupidity has no limits.
> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>
> Wrong again.

Try flying by flapping your hands.
> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
> >
> >No.
>
> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.

EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
Yes the West will get blind.
They will lose lot more.
> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
> >
> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>
> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.

So who is smart in the US.
Your system is badly flawed.
No chance for any superior person to come up.
See, how stupid you are!
The equal of Petz here.

> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of the assailant?
> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
> >> >I was being sarcastic.
> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
> >
> >Rubbish.
>
> Go there and try it.

Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>
> You are quite the propaganda machine.

I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their Bappachka.

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 00:28 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:19:33 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
><banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:03:46 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>> >>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> They better get out.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Why should they have to ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>> >>>>> society.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>> >>Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>> >>
>>> >Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from
>>> >all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running the
>>> >USA!
>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>> sanctions before the invasion and not arming Ukraine before the
>>> invasion.
>>
>>Sanctions did not work and some birds tell me that the arms given by the
>>stupid USAns were sold by the Ukrainians for whatever they could get.
>
> No doubt by your Russian handlers. They are idiots, Putin is both a
>freak and an idiot. Russian press can't be trusted.
>
The same goes for the American media/press
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 00:37 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:12:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:43:06 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:41:59 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:00:09 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:52:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:14:16 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:05:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:50:05 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:10:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:36:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:02:02 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 09:21:29 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >- snip -
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Looking at all the above posts, there are clearly those
>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> prefer to propagate the views of the western mainstream media,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> those do don't, and want to educate themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Benjamin Norton gives an excellent presentation of the
>>>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>>>> war,
>>>>>>>>>>> and he talks about Ukraine about half way through the video....
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Thanks for the link.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Yes, that point of view is shared by most Indians and all
>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > suffered from colonialism.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Well, Russia is the champion of the Global South.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Showed you before in 2013 Obama/Biden were involved in the
>>>>>>>>>>> removal
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who turned down the 800
>>>>>>>>>>> Million
>>>>>>>>>>> >> European grant when they accept membership of the EU (not
>>>>>>>>>>> NATO).
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Russia then made a counter offer for $1.5 billion plus a
>>>>>>>>>>> third
>>>>>>>>>>> >> reduction in gas price if they let the status quo stay.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >Great offer. They could really develop their country. Now look
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> The offer was accepted. Ukraine was not a member of the EU when
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin's Russia did not invade!
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin is complacent with his war criminal tactics!
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, Putin has shifted to Ukraine and is using the very same
>>>>>>>>>>> playbook
>>>>>>>>>>> used to catastrophic effect in Syria and Chechnya.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Got rid of the ISIS in Syria,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not single handedly he didnt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and the equivalent in Chechnya.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ISIS was never in Chechnya.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have problems with that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just with your bare faced lies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Kremlin, meanwhile, denies war crimes and says Russian
>>>>>>>>>>> military
>>>>>>>>>>> forces are not targeting civilians. Just Russian lies, they
>>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>> have done this is nothing new.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't agree.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your problem, as always.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nar, that shit is pure bluff. Even Putin isn't actually THAT stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That is if he is sane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corse he is sane, just a psychopath.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Moscow will
>>>>>>>> glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, doesnt happen when a city gets nuked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why that stupidity ?
>>>>
>>>> To see if I could activate the snowflake mode in you.
>>>
>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>
>> You are the Australian version of Rudy Canoza.
>
>You are wrong, as always.
>
><reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>

Sorry for the people of OZ, but this very thread proves I am right.

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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> modern
>>> conventional weaps are high range and can compete with the force of a
>>> nuclear bomb, even shelters a mile deep!

>> But can do nothing about nuclear missile subs. Thatswhy the majors
>> have nuclear missile subs, stupid.

> Russian subs are just targets always targeted even now.

Not even possible to know where they are, stupid.

That's the whole point of nuke missile subs.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from
>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running the
>>>>> USA!
>>>>
>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>
>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable, stupid.
>
>> Why.
>
>That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>
>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>
>Never happened.

Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?

What far left logic is that? Even for a snowflake that is without
logic.
>
>> was acceptable?
>
>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>> invasion.
>>>
>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been possible.
>>
>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>
>It isnt surrounded.

Ill give you that, little snowflake.
>
>> what he was planning.
>
>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>
>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>
>Yep.
>
>> He told the Russian people
>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that stupid
>> and believe him.
>
>Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid enough
>to believe that too.

Many still do even some Australians.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:39:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> modern
>>>> conventional weaps are high range and can compete with the force of a
>>>> nuclear bomb, even shelters a mile deep!
>
>>> But can do nothing about nuclear missile subs. Thatswhy the majors
>>> have nuclear missile subs, stupid.
>
>> Russian subs are just targets always targeted even now.
>
>Not even possible to know where they are, stupid.
>
>That's the whole point of nuke missile subs.
>
Stange the press gives updates of where they are and where they are
going
On top of that with comunications for them down, subs have to suface
underwater they are blind
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Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 01:10 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>
>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>
>> Think you are wrong.
>
>No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in Russia.

Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the empty
areas of Siberia. More Snowflake logic.
>
>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>
>He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>which of the two would lose more.

I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
most empty areas left. No one wins a nuclear war.

>
>>> So don't push it, fool.
>
>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The
>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>
>>> No.
>
>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>
>Fallout is very survivable.

No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
account. Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it? Do you
have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits? Are you what in the USA is
called a survivalist?
>
>> That
>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>
>But isn't a major problem.

For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for high
yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many blast.

Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Depending on the
>>>> winds.
>>>
>>> Only local damage.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
>Fact.
>
>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>
>> Wrong again.
>
>Nope.
>
>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>
>Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.

Check it out. This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A ground
burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.

>
>>>
>>>> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>
>>> That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>
>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>
>>>> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of
>>>> the assailant?
>>>> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>
>>> Rubbish.
>>
>> Go there and try it.
>>
>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>
>Nope, too far fetched for anyone to believe his shit.

Maybe but many people fall for propoganda type bullshit. You have on
fallout and its long term effects on the enviroment.

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>> >
>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>
>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>
>China will, without firing a shot.
>We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>
With Joe Biden selling US farmland and most else to Chinese this has
become true.
>>
>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>
>> It is Putin that would push it.
>
>It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>
Not up to date with modern high tech warfare, a great man in his time
>> >
>> >The
>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>> >
>> >No.
>>
>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>
>No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall to the ground
>due to gravity.
>The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>>
To bring Putins Russia to it's knees high tech will win the war.
Putin, Biden stupidity will lose it
>>
>> >
>> >Depending on the
>> >> winds.
>> >
>> >Only local damage.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
>Your god Rod is infectious!
>Stupidity has no limits.
>
Rod is very clever and knowledgeable, most do not like being corrected
>
>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>
>> Wrong again.
>
>Try flying by flapping your hands.
>
Radiation are wavelengths like "gamma radiation" not elements
>
>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>> >
>> >No.
>>
>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>
>EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>Yes the West will get blind.
>They will lose lot more.
>
There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>
>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>> >
>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>
>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>
>So who is smart in the US.
>Your system is badly flawed.
>No chance for any superior person to come up.
>See, how stupid you are!
>The equal of Petz here.
>
I happen to be a up to date genius, my Grandmother was a practicing
witch. Curses are real and powerful!
>
>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of the assailant?
>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>> >
>> >Rubbish.
>>
>> Go there and try it.
>
>Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>
They were nice to your Australian dollars not you fool.
>>
>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>
>I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their Bappachka.
>
Bappachka = old woman?
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 01:36 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>> >
>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>
>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>
>China will, without firing a shot.

I doubt China would win either or that they would want one. To
much environmental damage long term.
..
>We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>>
>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>
>> It is Putin that would push it.
>
>It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.

Who invaded Russia? Who threatened to?

>
>> >
>> >The
>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>> >
>> >No.
>>
>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>
>No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall to the ground
>due to gravity.

Depends on the yield and if ground or air burst.

>The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.

Then the radiation that traveled because of the
Fukushima nuclear problem was false. Well, some of it was. Yet it
still affected women's breast milk as well as other food products and
although diluted, did reach the USA from Japan.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Depending on the
>> >> winds.
>> >
>> >Only local damage.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
>Your god Rod is infectious!
>Stupidity has no limits.

No idea what you are talking about.
>
>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>
>> Wrong again.
>
>Try flying by flapping your hands.

You do know the fireball can travel above a mile into the air
correct? Then you have the updraft to over 5 miles or more. Then it
all depends on where it is and the weather. Also the Jet streams.
More complicated than you believe although I do admit for a clearer
weapon the half life is a factor.

>
>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>> >
>> >No.
>>
>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>
>EMP will blow unguarded electronics.

How much of your electronics are guarded? Do you even have any
protection from it in the average home? Are water supplies protected
in OZ?

>Yes the West will get blind.

True.

>They will lose lot more.

Russia will also be destroyed for the most part. Like I said, no one
wins.
>
>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>> >
>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>
>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>
>So who is smart in the US.
>Your system is badly flawed.

OK.

>No chance for any superior person to come up.

OK. Putin, I hope, isn't the best Russia, has.

>See, how stupid you are!
>The equal of Petz here.
>
>
>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of the assailant?
>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>> >
>> >Rubbish.
>>
>> Go there and try it.
>
>Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.

Some are.
>>
>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>
>I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their Bappachka.

Sure, you are a loyal Communist.

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 01:46 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:34:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:09:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:57:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:22:53 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>> Not as much as the US.
>>>>> Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>> For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>> Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>
>>>> You are insane.
>>>
>>> Nope, just stupid and a narcissist.
>
>> He does seem to be a propagandist.
>
>Nope, just another nut case that doesn't believe that the moon landing
>happened.

A member of the OZ and Russian version of QAnon. I see.

>
>>>> Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>
>>> Nope, great swathes of russia wouldnt be affected much.
>>
>> Siberia?
>
>And the rest of the very low density of humans areas.
>
>Too spread out for it to be possible to fuck up much.

True the few places that matter would be hit.
>
>>>> The
>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Radiation on the level a full-scale war of this type would entail
>> would not care about national borders. The jet stream also wouldn't
>> care.
>
>Sure, but that fallout isnt a major problem as chernobyle proved.

False, it did not have the force applied to bring it into the upper
atmosphere. A fireball from even a ground burst can reach the Jet
stream. Airbursts can also but would contain much fewer radioactive
particles.
>
>>>> Depending on the
>>>> winds.
>>>
>>> More bullshit.
>>
>> Look it up.
>
>Dont need to.

I forgot you know everything. LOL
>
>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>> just from the fallout.
>>>
>>> But that wouldn't have much effect.
>>
>> It might to them.
>
>Nope, fallout doesnt affect much.

It does food supply, cancer rates and even long term weather
patterns. Well on the level of a Nuclear war would be.
>
>>>> OZ would even be effected.
>>>
>>> Only the bits like Pine Gap etc. No worse than the nuke trials here.
>>> Just a few piles of dead yanks.
>>
>> Sorry many Australians also work there
>
>Fuck all do.

What does that mean?

>
>> sad you don't care about that.
>
>I never said that, just that it is a microscopic subset of Australians.
>
>> Don't forget Swan Island.
>
>No point in nuking that.

LOL So much you don't know.

>
>>>>>> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>
>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>
>>> That's bullshit. He knows that with so much of europe dependant
>>> on his gas, the west won't do much because the Ukraine isnt that
>>> important to them as their standard of living.
>>
>> Maybe.
>
>No maybe about it. None of them have turned off their gas feed from russia.

Russia turned off Poland and Bulgaria
>
>Poland and Bulgaria have refused to pay in roubles, so far, but
>they don't buy enough gas to see Putin pull out of the Uknraine now.

True.
>
>>>>>> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> assailant?
>>>>>> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>> I was being sarcastic.
>>>>
>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 01:46 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:37:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:40:06 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:17:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>
>>> Nope, he wouldn't have got to where he is in russia by being an idiot.
>>
>> He has become an idiot.
>
>Nope, he will likely grab the two eastern provinces of the Ukraine,
>achieve a land bridge to the Crimea and grab at least two very useful
>black sea ports.
>
>>> He has in fact done a hell of a lot better than you have ever managed.
>>
>> I don't like politics. Well working in that field. Then again you
>> don't even know what I doi.
>
>Its obvious that Putin has managed FAR more than you have.
>
>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>
>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>
>>> You have never had a fucking clue.
>>
>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>
>I have never ever supported Putin.

Yet you are.
>
>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>
>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>
>Very likely and may well end up with that too.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 01:58 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from
>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running the
>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>
>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>
>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable, stupid.
>>
>>> Why.
>>
>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>
>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>
>> Never happened.

> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?

Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.

Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
claimed that they were just joint military exercises.

And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.

>>> was acceptable?
>>
>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>> invasion.
>>>>
>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been possible.
>>>
>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>
>> It isnt surrounded.
>
> Ill give you that

>>> what he was planning.
>>
>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>
>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>> He told the Russian people
>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that stupid
>>> and believe him.
>>
>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid enough
>> to believe that too.
>
> Many still do even some Australians.

Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:50:51 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:39:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> modern
>>>>> conventional weaps are high range and can compete with the force of a
>>>>> nuclear bomb, even shelters a mile deep!
>>
>>>> But can do nothing about nuclear missile subs. Thatswhy the majors
>>>> have nuclear missile subs, stupid.
>>
>>> Russian subs are just targets always targeted even now.
>>
>> Not even possible to know where they are, stupid.
>>
>> That's the whole point of nuke missile subs.
>>
> Stange the press gives updates of where they are

Bullshit they do with anything like the accuracy needed
to take them out in the first 30 minutes of an invasion.

> and where they are going

Ditto. ALL they actually know is that they have left their base.

> On top of that with comunications for them down,

Not even possible to do that.

> subs have to suface
> underwater they are blind

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage with missile launching.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:06 UTC

On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 11:11:30 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
> >> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
> >> >> >Not as much as the US.
> >> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
> >> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
> >> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
> >> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
> >> >
> >> >False, much less gone than the USA.
> >>
> >> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
> >
> >China will, without firing a shot.
> >We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
> >
> With Joe Biden selling US farmland and most else to Chinese this has
> become true.
> >>
> >> >So don't push it, fool.
> >>
> >> It is Putin that would push it.
> >
> >It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
> >As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
> >
> Not up to date with modern high tech warfare, a great man in his time

What rubbish. He is up to date. The Javelin missiles have prevented Putin
from taking Kyiv, but he has Plan B which as Bakshi-ji says is far more
painful for all parties.
Had Ukraine simply surrendered they and the rest would have benefited.
Pure stupidity and simple evil from West prevented that from happening.
Now the situation is far more dire.
On the other hand, videos show how Ukrainian soldiers are changing sides on
their own. Sense at last.
> >> >
> >> >The
> >> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
> >> >
> >> >No.
> >>
> >> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
> >> the particulate matter would not also move around?
> >
> >No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall to the ground
> >due to gravity.
> >The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
> >There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
> >>
> To bring Putins Russia to it's knees high tech will win the war.

Nice to talk of hi tech in Australia after shutting down all local industrial research and
licking US feet in that regard, on money grounds!
But -
F-35 is a joke.
Hi tech failed in Afghanistan! After so many years and trillions.

> Putin, Biden stupidity will lose it

Putin is very clever, Biden is senile and ignorant, weak and incapable. A disaster.
They better get Trump back asap.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Depending on the
> >> >> winds.
> >> >
> >> >Only local damage.
> >>
> >> Bullshit.
> >
> >Your god Rod is infectious!
> >Stupidity has no limits.
> >
> Rod is very clever and knowledgeable, most do not like being corrected

Rod is a presumptuous pig-ignorant, abusive, negative, sedulous gasbag. He appeals to rabid fools like you, on bias grounds.
> >
> >> >Heavy elements do not fly.
> >>
> >> Wrong again.
> >
> >Try flying by flapping your hands.
> >
> Radiation are wavelengths like "gamma radiation" not elements

Fool, they have limited range. Heard of the inverse square law for any radiation?
Got any clue for the notion of solid angle?
> >
> >> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
> >> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
> >> >
> >> >No.
> >>
> >> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
> >> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
> >
> >EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
> >Yes the West will get blind.
> >They will lose lot more.
> >
> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)

Let us see how the West likes living in caves as they used to.
We did visit such cave structures in Turkey.
Quite organized, there.
> >
> >> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
> >> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
> >> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
> >> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
> >> >
> >> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
> >>
> >> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
> >
> >So who is smart in the US.
> >Your system is badly flawed.
> >No chance for any superior person to come up.
> >See, how stupid you are!
> >The equal of Petz here.
> >
> I happen to be a up to date genius, my Grandmother was a practicing
> witch. Curses are real and powerful!

You are a rabid fool. No one likes fools, for from folly all suffer.
In the spirit world I am well protected.
Witches change from evil to good when they mention my name.
> >
> >> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of the assailant?
> >> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
> >> >> >I was being sarcastic.
> >> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
> >> >
> >> >Rubbish.
> >>
> >> Go there and try it.
> >
> >Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
> >
> They were nice to your Australian dollars not you fool.
> >>
> >> You are quite the propaganda machine.
> >
> >I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their Bappachka.
> >
> Bappachka = old woman?

No, a Russian affectionate added to Bappa, my home-name.
> --
> Petzl
> Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
> and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
> "The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
> Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
> the religion of Christ."

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:06 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas with
>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies from
>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running the
>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable, stupid.
>>>
>>>> Why.
>>>
>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>
>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>
>>> Never happened.
>
>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>
>Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>
>Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>claimed that they were just joint military exercises.

Very long term exercises I guess. Please tell me you didn't fall
for that.

>
>And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.

Bullshit. Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.
>
>>>> was acceptable?
>>>
>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been possible.
>>>>
>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>
>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>
>> Ill give you that
>
>>>> what he was planning.
>>>
>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>
>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that stupid
>>>> and believe him.
>>>
>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid enough
>>> to believe that too.
>>
>> Many still do even some Australians.
>
>Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.

You do have many.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:10:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>
>>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>
>>> Think you are wrong.
>>
>> No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in Russia.
>
> Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the empty
> areas of Siberia.

Nope.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>
>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>> which of the two would lose more.
>
> I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
> most empty areas left.

Nope, dope.

> No one wins a nuclear war.

He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
which of the two would lose more.

>>>> So don't push it, fool.
>>
>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The
>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>
>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>>
>> Fallout is very survivable.
>
> No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
> account.

BULLSHIT.

> Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it?

Everyone has.

> Do you
> have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits?

Don't need either to survive fine, as Chernobyle proved.

> Are you what in the USA is
> called a survivalist?

Nope, not that stupid and don't need to be to survive fine.

>>> That
>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>
>> But isn't a major problem.
>
> For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for high
> yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many blast.

Not in the sparsely populated areas of Russia.

> Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.

Not enough to matter and there would be
no point in nuking swan island anyway.

>>>> Depending on the
>>>>> winds.
>>>>
>>>> Only local damage.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Fact.
>>
>>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>
>>> Wrong again.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>
>> Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>> US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.

> Check it out.

Don't need to.

> This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Irrelevant to what might happen if the russians nuked Pine Gap
and Harold Holt.

> Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A ground
> burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.

Of which Pine Gap and Harold Holt are neither.

>>>>> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>
>>>> That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>>
>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>
>>>>> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of
>>>>> the assailant?
>>>>> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>
>>>> Rubbish.
>>>
>>> Go there and try it.
>>>
>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>
>> Nope, too far fetched for anyone to believe his shit.
>
> Maybe

No maybe about it.

> but many people fall for propoganda type bullshit.

None that matter.

> You have on fallout

Nope.

> and its long term effects on the enviroment.

Chernobyle did fine.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:01:34 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:50:51 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:39:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> modern
>>>>>> conventional weaps are high range and can compete with the force of a
>>>>>> nuclear bomb, even shelters a mile deep!
>>>
>>>>> But can do nothing about nuclear missile subs. Thatswhy the majors
>>>>> have nuclear missile subs, stupid.
>>>
>>>> Russian subs are just targets always targeted even now.
>>>
>>> Not even possible to know where they are, stupid.
>>>
>>> That's the whole point of nuke missile subs.
>>>
>> Stange the press gives updates of where they are
>
>Bullshit they do with anything like the accuracy needed
>to take them out in the first 30 minutes of an invasion.
>
>> and where they are going
>
>Ditto. ALL they actually know is that they have left their base.
>
Nope the Russian subs have signatures easily accurately tracked by our
satellites
>
>> On top of that with comunications for them down,
>
>Not even possible to do that.
>
ten seconds actually
>
>> subs have to suface
>> underwater they are blind
>
>Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage with missile launching.
>
Missile launching require satellite guidance the Russian satellites
will be down, the Sub captain/Admiral won't receive orders. Then have
no home to go to no food to eat.
>
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:16 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:11:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>> >
>>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>
>>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>
>> China will, without firing a shot.
>> We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>>
> With Joe Biden selling US farmland

Biden has done nothing of the kind.

> and most else to Chinese

Ditto.

> this has
> become true.

Bullshit it has.

Fools ran the same line about Japan.

>>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>>
>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>
>> It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>> As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>>
> Not up to date with modern high tech warfare, a great man in his time
>>> >
>>> >The
>>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>> >
>>> >No.
>>>
>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>
>> No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall to
>> the ground
>> due to gravity.
>> The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>> There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>>>
> To bring Putins Russia to it's knees high tech will win the war.

Nope, the invader's citys would be nuked.

> Putin, Biden stupidity will lose it

Nope, because it aint gunna happen, you watch.

>>> >Depending on the
>>> >> winds.
>>> >
>>> >Only local damage.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>
> Rod is very clever and knowledgeable, most do not like being corrected
>>
>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>
>>> Wrong again.
>>
>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>
> Radiation are wavelengths like "gamma radiation" not elements
>>
>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>> >
>>> >No.
>>>
>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>
>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>> Yes the West will get blind.
>> They will lose lot more.
>>
> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)

Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
in a place like russia in 30 minutes.

>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>> >
>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>>
>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>
>> So who is smart in the US.
>> Your system is badly flawed.
>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>> See, how stupid you are!
>> The equal of Petz here.
>>
> I happen to be a up to date genius, my Grandmother was a practicing
> witch. Curses are real and powerful!

Bullshit.

>>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change
>>> of the assailant?
>>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>> >
>>> >Rubbish.
>>>
>>> Go there and try it.
>>
>> Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>>
> They were nice to your Australian dollars not you fool.
>>>
>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>
>> I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their Bappachka.
>>
> Bappachka = old woman?

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:24 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:46:57 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>
>>I have never ever supported Putin.
>
> Yet you are.
>
Not Rod Speed
>>
>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>
>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>
>>Very likely and may well end up with that too.
>
Putin is looking at another slice of Salami (Syria, Chechnya, now
Ukraine) next looks like it's Alaska.
<https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-gov-reacts-russia-wants-back-good-luck-ukraine-1688431>
https://tinyurl.com/y6eawgyf
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:24 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:36:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>> >
>>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>
>>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>
>> China will, without firing a shot.
>
> I doubt China would win either or that they would want one. To
> much environmental damage long term.

Bullshit, the area around Chernobyle is doing fine.
.
>> We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>>>
>>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>>
>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>
>> It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>> As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>
> Who invaded Russia? Who threatened to?
>
>>
>>> >
>>> >The
>>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>> >
>>> >No.
>>>
>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>
>> No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall to
>> the ground
>> due to gravity.
>
> Depends on the yield and if ground or air burst.

Nope.

>> The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>> There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>
> Then the radiation that traveled because of the
> Fukushima nuclear problem was false.

Didnt do any harm to anyone.

> Well, some of it was. Yet it
> still affected women's breast milk as well as other food products and
> although diluted, did reach the USA from Japan.

But didn't do any harm to anyone.

>>> >Depending on the
>>> >> winds.
>>> >
>>> >Only local damage.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>> Stupidity has no limits.
>
> No idea what you are talking about.

The use of the word bullshit, stupid.

>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>
>>> Wrong again.
>>
>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>
> You do know the fireball can travel above a mile into the air
> correct? Then you have the updraft to over 5 miles or more. Then it
> all depends on where it is and the weather. Also the Jet streams.
> More complicated than you believe although I do admit for a clearer
> weapon the half life is a factor.

Still not a problem for those outside the blast area.

>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>> >
>>> >No.
>>>
>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>
>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>
> How much of your electronics are guarded? Do you even have any
> protection from it in the average home? Are water supplies protected
> in OZ?

Don't need to be when only Pine Gap and Harold Holt would be nuked.

>> Yes the West will get blind.
>
> True.
>
>> They will lose lot more.
>
> Russia will also be destroyed for the most part.

Bullshit. Vast areas wouldn't be.

> Like I said, no one wins.

Plenty don't lose much.

>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>> >
>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>>
>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>
>> So who is smart in the US.
>> Your system is badly flawed.
>
> OK.
>
>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>
> OK. Putin, I hope, isn't the best Russia, has.

Corse it is. That's why he rules the roost there.

>> See, how stupid you are!
>> The equal of Petz here.
>>
>>
>>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change
>>> of the assailant?
>>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>> >
>>> >Rubbish.
>>>
>>> Go there and try it.
>>
>> Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>
> Some are.

Nope, none are.

>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>
>> I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their Bappachka.
>
> Sure, you are a loyal Communist.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

Russia hasn't been communist for decades now, stupid.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:31 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:46:22 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:34:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:09:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:57:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:22:53 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>>> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>> Not as much as the US.
>>>>>> Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>> For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>> Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are insane.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, just stupid and a narcissist.
>>
>>> He does seem to be a propagandist.
>>
>> Nope, just another nut case that doesn't believe that the moon landing
>> happened.
>
> A member of the OZ and Russian version of QAnon.

Nope, just another nut case that doesn't believe that the moon landing
happened.

> I see.

Nope, you never do.

>>>>> Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, great swathes of russia wouldnt be affected much.
>>>
>>> Siberia?
>>
>> And the rest of the very low density of humans areas.
>>
>> Too spread out for it to be possible to fuck up much.
>
> True the few places that matter would be hit.

And the rest would carry on regardless fine.

>>>>> The
>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> Radiation on the level a full-scale war of this type would entail
>>> would not care about national borders. The jet stream also wouldn't
>>> care.
>>
>> Sure, but that fallout isnt a major problem as chernobyle proved.
>
> False, it did not have the force applied to bring it into the upper
> atmosphere. A fireball from even a ground burst can reach the Jet
> stream.

Where it does no harm to anything.

> Airbursts can also but would contain much fewer radioactive
> particles.

And so don't matter a damn.

>>>>> Depending on the
>>>>> winds.
>>>>
>>>> More bullshit.
>>>
>>> Look it up.
>>
>> Dont need to.
>
> I forgot you know everything. LOL
>>
>>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>> just from the fallout.
>>>>
>>>> But that wouldn't have much effect.
>>>
>>> It might to them.
>>
>> Nope, fallout doesnt affect much.
>
> It does food supply,

Bullshit as Chernobyle proves.

> cancer rates

Bullshit as Chernobyle proves.

> and even long term weather
> patterns.

Bullshit as Chernobyle proves.

> Well on the level of a Nuclear war would be.

Still mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

>>>>> OZ would even be effected.
>>>>
>>>> Only the bits like Pine Gap etc. No worse than the nuke trials here.
>>>> Just a few piles of dead yanks.
>>>
>>> Sorry many Australians also work there
>>
>> Fuck all do.
>
> What does that mean?

It means fuck all Australians work there, fuckwit.

>>> sad you don't care about that.
>>
>> I never said that, just that it is a microscopic subset of Australians.
>>
>>> Don't forget Swan Island.
>>
>> No point in nuking that.
>
> LOL So much you don't know.

Nothing done there is of any threat to the russians, fuckwit.

>>>>>>> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>
>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>
>>>> That's bullshit. He knows that with so much of europe dependant
>>>> on his gas, the west won't do much because the Ukraine isnt that
>>>> important to them as their standard of living.
>>>
>>> Maybe.
>>
>> No maybe about it. None of them have turned off their gas feed from
>> russia.
>
> Russia turned off Poland and Bulgaria

And they just yawned and carried on regardless.

>> Poland and Bulgaria have refused to pay in roubles, so far, but
>> they don't buy enough gas to see Putin pull out of the Uknraine now.
>
> True.
>>
>>>>>>> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> assailant?
>>>>>>> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>> I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>
>>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
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>> Bappachka = old woman?
>
>No, a Russian affectionate added to Bappa, my home-name.
>
They tagged you as a foolish old woman!
Understand Russian from my neighbor's translation.
He grew up in St Petersburg new Putin, said Putin was a cry baby and
dobber then.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:32 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:46:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:37:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:40:06 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:17:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, he wouldn't have got to where he is in russia by being an idiot.
>>>
>>> He has become an idiot.
>>
>> Nope, he will likely grab the two eastern provinces of the Ukraine,
>> achieve a land bridge to the Crimea and grab at least two very useful
>> black sea ports.
>>
>>>> He has in fact done a hell of a lot better than you have ever managed.
>>>
>>> I don't like politics. Well working in that field. Then again you
>>> don't even know what I doi.
>>
>> Its obvious that Putin has managed FAR more than you have.
>>
>>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>
>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>
>>>> You have never had a fucking clue.
>>>
>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>
>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>
> Yet you are.

Nope, dope.

>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>
>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>
>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:44 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:24 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 11:11:30 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>> >> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>> >> >> >Not as much as the US.
>> >> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>> >> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>> >> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>> >> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>> >> >
>> >> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>> >>
>> >> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>> >
>> >China will, without firing a shot.
>> >We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>> >
>> With Joe Biden selling US farmland and most else to Chinese this has
>> become true.
>> >>
>> >> >So don't push it, fool.
>> >>
>> >> It is Putin that would push it.
>> >
>> >It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>> >As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>> >
>> Not up to date with modern high tech warfare, a great man in his time
>
> What rubbish. He is up to date. The Javelin missiles have prevented Putin
> from taking Kyiv, but he has Plan B which as Bakshi-ji says is far more
> painful for all parties.
> Had Ukraine simply surrendered they and the rest would have benefited.

Bullshit they would have. They would have lost the two eastern
provinces and the important black sea ports and would not have
been allowed by Putin to join the EU and so their economy would
be far more fucked than if they joined the EU.

> Pure stupidity and simple evil from West prevented that from happening.

The west did nothing of the kind.

> Now the situation is far more dire.

We'll see...

> On the other hand, videos show how Ukrainian soldiers are changing sides
> on
> their own.

BULLSHIT.

> Sense at last.

>> >> >The
>> >> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>> >> >
>> >> >No.
>> >>
>> >> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>> >> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>> >
>> >No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall
>> to the ground
>> >due to gravity.
>> >The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>> >There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>> >>
>> To bring Putins Russia to it's knees high tech will win the war.
>
> Nice to talk of hi tech in Australia after shutting down all local
> industrial research

Never happened, fuckwit.

> and
> licking US feet in that regard, on money grounds!

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken narcissistic
fantasys.

> But -
> F-35 is a joke.

Leaves the russian shit for dead.

> Hi tech failed in Afghanistan! After so many years and trillions.

>> Putin, Biden stupidity will lose it
>
> Putin is very clever, Biden is senile and ignorant, weak and incapable.
> A disaster.
> They better get Trump back asap.

Not going to happen, you watch.

>> >> >Depending on the
>> >> >> winds.
>> >> >
>> >> >Only local damage.
>> >>
>> >> Bullshit.
>> >
>> >Your god Rod is infectious!
>> >Stupidity has no limits.
>> >
>> Rod is very clever and knowledgeable, most do not like being corrected
>
<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>> >> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>> >>
>> >> Wrong again.
>> >
>> >Try flying by flapping your hands.
>> >
>> Radiation are wavelengths like "gamma radiation" not elements
>
> Fool, they have limited range. Heard of the inverse square law for any
> radiation?
> Got any clue for the notion of solid angle?
>> >
>> >> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>> >> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>> >> >
>> >> >No.
>> >>
>> >> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>> >> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>> >
>> >EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>> >Yes the West will get blind.
>> >They will lose lot more.
>> >
>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>
> Let us see how the West likes living in caves as they used to.

Not necessary, we have invented these fucky things called buildings now.

> We did visit such cave structures in Turkey.
> Quite organized, there.

No need to live in those now. Even the Turks dont.

>> >> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>> >> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>> >> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>> >> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>> >> >
>> >> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>> representative.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>> >
>> >So who is smart in the US.
>> >Your system is badly flawed.
>> >No chance for any superior person to come up.
>> >See, how stupid you are!
>> >The equal of Petz here.
>> >
>> I happen to be a up to date genius, my Grandmother was a practicing
>> witch. Curses are real and powerful!
>
> You are a rabid fool. No one likes fools, for from folly all suffer.
> In the spirit world I am well protected.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken narcissistic
fantasys.

> Witches change from evil to good when they mention my name.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken narcissistic
fantasys.

>> >> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character
>> change of the assailant?
>> >> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>> >> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>> >> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>> >> >
>> >> >Rubbish.
>> >>
>> >> Go there and try it.
>> >
>> >Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>> >
>> They were nice to your Australian dollars not you fool.
>> >>
>> >> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>> >
>> >I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their
>> Bappachka.
>> >
>> Bappachka = old woman?
>
> No, a Russian affectionate added to Bappa, my home-name.

Pathetic.

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