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Re: USA to blame

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:45 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:16:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> To bring Putins Russia to it's knees high tech will win the war.
>
>Nope, the invader's citys would be nuked.
>
>> Putin, Biden stupidity will lose it
>
>Nope, because it aint gunna happen, you watch.
>
Watching.
>
>>>> >Depending on the
>>>> >> winds.
>>>> >
>>>> >Only local damage.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>>
>> Rod is very clever and knowledgeable, most do not like being corrected
>>>
>>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again.
>>>
>>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>>
>> Radiation are wavelengths like "gamma radiation" not elements
>>>
>>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>> >
>>>> >No.
>>>>
>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>
>>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>>> Yes the West will get blind.
>>> They will lose lot more.
>>>
>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>
>Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>
Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>
>>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>> >
>>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>
>>> So who is smart in the US.
>>> Your system is badly flawed.
>>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>>> See, how stupid you are!
>>> The equal of Petz here.
>>>
>> I happen to be a up to date genius, my Grandmother was a practicing
>> witch. Curses are real and powerful!
>
>Bullshit.
>
Nope she used to bring people back to life after Doctor pronounced
them dead, not everyone just those she said she could and did by
burning acrid smelling herbs, the "deceased" would start coughing
often getting up on their own
In those days no refrigeration the dead (heart stopped) were buried
quick, Graves that have had to be dug up have found many buried alive.
Nowadays (1960's?) they look for brain activity before pronouncing
death.

A quick chant (Walla Walla ding dong) to Telephone scammers (inform
them their family not them have been cursed) You never hear from them
again.
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.

Re: USA to blame

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:46 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:26 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> Why.
>>>>
>>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>>
>>>> Never happened.
>>
>>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>>
>> Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>>
>> Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>> claimed that they were just joint military exercises.
>
> Very long term exercises I guess.

It wasnt that long term.

> Please tell me you didn't fall
> for that.

Corse I didnt.

>>
>> And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.
>
> Bullshit.

Fact.

> Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.

Corse I do.

>>>>> was acceptable?
>>>>
>>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been
>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>>
>>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>>
>>> Ill give you that
>>
>>>>> what he was planning.
>>>>
>>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>>
>>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that
>>>>> stupid
>>>>> and believe him.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid enough
>>>> to believe that too.
>>>
>>> Many still do even some Australians.
>>
>> Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.
>
> You do have many.

Nope, hardly any are as stupid as that one.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:51 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:13:25 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:01:34 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:50:51 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:39:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> modern
>>>>>>> conventional weaps are high range and can compete with the force
>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>> nuclear bomb, even shelters a mile deep!
>>>>
>>>>>> But can do nothing about nuclear missile subs. Thatswhy the majors
>>>>>> have nuclear missile subs, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> Russian subs are just targets always targeted even now.
>>>>
>>>> Not even possible to know where they are, stupid.
>>>>
>>>> That's the whole point of nuke missile subs.
>>>>
>>> Stange the press gives updates of where they are
>>
>> Bullshit they do with anything like the accuracy needed
>> to take them out in the first 30 minutes of an invasion.
>>
>>> and where they are going
>>
>> Ditto. ALL they actually know is that they have left their base.
>>
> Nope the Russian subs have signatures easily accurately tracked by our
> satellites

BULLSHIT.

>>> On top of that with comunications for them down,
>>
>> Not even possible to do that.
>>
> ten seconds actually

BULLSHIT country wide.

>>> subs have to suface
>>> underwater they are blind
>>
>> Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage with missile launching.
>>
> Missile launching require satellite guidance

Nope, dope.

> the Russian satellites
> will be down,

Nope, dope.

> the Sub captain/Admiral won't receive orders.

Wrong, as always.

> Then have no home to go

Don't need one once they have produced a nuke holocaust.

> to no food to eat.

Why would that evaporate ?

And even if they did all starve to death, the
countrys they targetted would be fucked anyway.

Just a few more corpses added to the immense pile they produced.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:53 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:24:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:46:57 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>>
>>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>>
>> Yet you are.
>>
> Not Rod Speed
>>>
>>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>>
>>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.
>>
> Putin is looking at another slice of Salami (Syria,

Putin hasn't got any of Syria or Georgia.

> Chechnya, now
> Ukraine) next looks like it's Alaska.

Fantasy. NATO wouldn't allow it.

> <https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-gov-reacts-russia-wants-back-good-luck-ukraine-1688431>
> https://tinyurl.com/y6eawgyf

Just because some fool claims something...

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:13 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:51:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Missile launching require satellite guidance
>
>Nope, dope.
>
IBM's need satellite guidance
>
>> the Russian satellites
>> will be down,
>
>Nope, dope.
>
Not hard for US to do
>
>> the Sub captain/Admiral won't receive orders.
>
>Wrong, as always.
>
No ability to send or receive communications
>
>> Then have no home to go
>
>Don't need one once they have produced a nuke holocaust.
>
The Russian Subs are easily muttered
>
>> to no food to eat.
>
>Why would that evaporate ?
>
Russian Subs are not long term accommodation.
>
>And even if they did all starve to death, the
>countrys they targetted would be fucked anyway.
>
>Just a few more corpses added to the immense pile they produced.
>
Russia if the West does it right and traitors Biden/Obama and family
striped of wealth and hung no problem.
>
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:45:13 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:16:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> To bring Putins Russia to it's knees high tech will win the war.
>>
>> Nope, the invader's citys would be nuked.
>>
>>> Putin, Biden stupidity will lose it
>>
>> Nope, because it aint gunna happen, you watch.
>>
> Watching.
>>
>>>>> >Depending on the
>>>>> >> winds.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Only local damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>>>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>>>
>>> Rod is very clever and knowledgeable, most do not like being corrected
>>>>
>>>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>
>>>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>>>
>>> Radiation are wavelengths like "gamma radiation" not elements
>>>>
>>>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>
>>>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>>>> Yes the West will get blind.
>>>> They will lose lot more.
>>>>
>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>
>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>
> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)

Nothing even remotely like enough of them to wipe out
all of russia's comms before the nuke subs are ordered
to nuke the invaders' citys.

>>>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>> representative.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>
>>>> So who is smart in the US.
>>>> Your system is badly flawed.
>>>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>>>> See, how stupid you are!
>>>> The equal of Petz here.
>>>>
>>> I happen to be a up to date genius, my Grandmother was a practicing
>>> witch. Curses are real and powerful!
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
> Nope

Yep.

> she used to bring people back to life after Doctor pronounced
> them dead,

Bullshit.

> not everyone just those she said she could and did by
> burning acrid smelling herbs, the "deceased" wouldstart coughing
> often getting up on their own

Bullshit.

> In those days no refrigeration

That's bullshit too.

> the dead (heart stopped) were buried
> quick, Graves that have had to be dug up have found many buried alive.

BULLSHIT.

> Nowadays (1960's?) they look for brain activity before pronouncing
> death.

> A quick chant (Walla Walla ding dong) to Telephone scammers (inform
> them their family not them have been cursed) You never hear from them
> again.

BULLSHIT.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:53:59 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:24:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:46:57 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>>>
>>>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>>>
>>> Yet you are.
>>>
>> Not Rod Speed
>>>>
>>>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>>>
>>>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.
>>>
>> Putin is looking at another slice of Salami (Syria,
>
>Putin hasn't got any of Syria or Georgia.
>
He has his obeyers in Control

>> Chechnya, now
>> Ukraine) next looks like it's Alaska.
>
>Fantasy. NATO wouldn't allow it.
>
>> <https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-gov-reacts-russia-wants-back-good-luck-ukraine-1688431>
>> https://tinyurl.com/y6eawgyf
>
>Just because some fool claims something...
>
Putin said this
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Petzl
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** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:46:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:26 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from danger.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>>>
>>>>> Never happened.
>>>
>>>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>>>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>>>
>>> Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>>>
>>> Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>>> claimed that they were just joint military exercises.
>>
>> Very long term exercises I guess.
>
>It wasnt that long term.
>
>> Please tell me you didn't fall
>> for that.
>
>Corse I didnt.
>
>>>
>>> And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
>Fact.
>
>> Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.
>
>Corse I do.
>
>>>>>> was acceptable?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been
>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>>>
>>>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>>>
>>>> Ill give you that
>>>
>>>>>> what he was planning.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>
>>>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that
>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>> and believe him.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>>>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid enough
>>>>> to believe that too.
>>>>
>>>> Many still do even some Australians.
>>>
>>> Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.
>>
>> You do have many.
>
>Nope, hardly any are as stupid as that one.

Sydney and southern Melbourne have many.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:32 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:45:13 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:16:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> To bring Putins Russia to it's knees high tech will win the war.
>>
>> Nope, the invader's citys would be nuked.
>>
>>> Putin, Biden stupidity will lose it
>>
>> Nope, because it aint gunna happen, you watch.
>>
> Watching.
>>
>>>>> >Depending on the
>>>>> >> winds.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Only local damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>>>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>>>
>>> Rod is very clever and knowledgeable, most do not like being corrected
>>>>
>>>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>
>>>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>>>
>>> Radiation are wavelengths like "gamma radiation" not elements
>>>>
>>>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>
>>>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>>>> Yes the West will get blind.
>>>> They will lose lot more.
>>>>
>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>
>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>
> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)

But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.

And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
happened.

>>>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>> representative.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>
>>>> So who is smart in the US.
>>>> Your system is badly flawed.
>>>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>>>> See, how stupid you are!
>>>> The equal of Petz here.
>>>>
>>> I happen to be a up to date genius, my Grandmother was a practicing
>>> witch. Curses are real and powerful!
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
> Nope she used to bring people back to life after Doctor pronounced
> them dead, not everyone just those she said she could and did by
> burning acrid smelling herbs, the "deceased" would start coughing
> often getting up on their own

Bullshit..

> In those days no refrigeration the dead (heart stopped)

Bullshit.

> were buried quick,

Bullshit. They still needed autopsys.

> Graves that have had to be dug up have found many buried alive.

BULLSHIT.

> Nowadays (1960's?) they look for brain activity before pronouncing
> death.

BULLSHIT when there is obviously rigor mortise etc.

> A quick chant (Walla Walla ding dong) to Telephone scammers (inform
> them their family not them have been cursed) You never hear from them
> again.

BULLSHIT.

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:32 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:10:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:10:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>
>>>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>
>>>> Think you are wrong.
>>>
>>> No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in Russia.
>>
>> Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the empty
>> areas of Siberia.
>
>Nope.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>
>
>>>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>
>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>> which of the two would lose more.
>>
>> I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
>> most empty areas left.
>
>Nope, dope.
>
>> No one wins a nuclear war.
>
>He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>which of the two would lose more.

WOW You were being a snowflake. I see.

>
>>>>> So don't push it, fool.
>>>
>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The
>>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>
>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>>>
>>> Fallout is very survivable.
>>
>> No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
>> account.
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
>> Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it?
>
>Everyone has.
>
>> Do you
>> have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits?
>
>Don't need either to survive fine, as Chernobyle proved.
>
>> Are you what in the USA is
>> called a survivalist?
>
>Nope, not that stupid and don't need to be to survive fine.

You are insane.
>
>>>> That
>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>
>>> But isn't a major problem.
>>
>> For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for high
>> yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many blast.
>
>Not in the sparsely populated areas of Russia.
>
>> Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.
>
>Not enough to matter and there would be
>no point in nuking swan island anyway.

Really? OK.
>
>>>>> Depending on the
>>>>>> winds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only local damage.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> Fact.
>>>
>>>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>
>>> Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>>> US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.
>
>> Check it out.
>
>Don't need to.
>
>> This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
>> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
>
>Irrelevant to what might happen if the russians nuked Pine Gap
>and Harold Holt.

Not to some. Maybe to you.
>
>> Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A ground
>> burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.
>
>Of which Pine Gap and Harold Holt are neither.

You are lying again.
>
>>>>>> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>
>>>>>> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change of
>>>>>> the assailant?
>>>>>> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rubbish.
>>>>
>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>
>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>
>>> Nope, too far fetched for anyone to believe his shit.
>>
>> Maybe
>
>No maybe about it.
>
>> but many people fall for propoganda type bullshit.
>
>None that matter.

You are not one that matters as you do nothing.
>
>> You have on fallout
>
>Nope.
>
>> and its long term effects on the enviroment.
>
>Chernobyle did fine.

Really and then maybe the effect didn't go a mile up in a fireball.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:13:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:51:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Missile launching require satellite guidance
>>
>> Nope, dope.
>>
> IBM's need satellite guidance

Bullshit they do. INS works fine with nukes.

>>> the Russian satellites
>>> will be down,
>>
>> Nope, dope.
>>
> Not hard for US to do

But easy for russia to notice that and launch the nukes.

>>> the Sub captain/Admiral won't receive orders.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
> No ability to send or receive communications

Wrong, as always. Not possible to show up in russia
with what would be needed to take out all comms
without the russians noticing before they were
actually in russia and launching their nukes while
comms is still possible.

>>> Then have no home to go
>>
>> Don't need one once they have produced a nuke holocaust.
>>
> The Russian Subs are easily muttered

Not when you don't know where they are.

>>> to no food to eat.
>>
>> Why would that evaporate ?
>>
> Russian Subs are not long term accommodation.

Bullshit with the nuke missile subs.

>> And even if they did all starve to death, the
>> countrys they targetted would be fucked anyway.
>>
>> Just a few more corpses added to the immense pile they produced.
>>
> Russia if the West does it right

Not even possible to do it and not get nuked.

> and traitors Biden/Obama and family
> striped of wealth and hung no problem.

Not even possible either.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:36:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>>>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>> >
>>>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>
>>>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>
>>> China will, without firing a shot.
>>
>> I doubt China would win either or that they would want one. To
>> much environmental damage long term.
>
>Bullshit, the area around Chernobyle is doing fine.

You are insane or just a fool and liar.
> .
>>> We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>>>>
>>>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>>>
>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>
>>> It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>>> As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>>
>> Who invaded Russia? Who threatened to?
>>
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >The
>>>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>> >
>>>> >No.
>>>>
>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>
>>> No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall to
>>> the ground
>>> due to gravity.
>>
>> Depends on the yield and if ground or air burst.
>
>Nope.

You believe theh effects of a ground burst and air burst are the
same?

>
>>> The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>>> There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>>
>> Then the radiation that traveled because of the
>> Fukushima nuclear problem was false.
>
>Didnt do any harm to anyone.

Don't know yet. Fact is a limited accident made it so far.
>
>> Well, some of it was. Yet it
>> still affected women's breast milk as well as other food products and
>> although diluted, did reach the USA from Japan.
>
>But didn't do any harm to anyone.
>
>>>> >Depending on the
>>>> >> winds.
>>>> >
>>>> >Only local damage.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>
>> No idea what you are talking about.
>
>The use of the word bullshit, stupid.
>
>>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again.
>>>
>>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>
>> You do know the fireball can travel above a mile into the air
>> correct? Then you have the updraft to over 5 miles or more. Then it
>> all depends on where it is and the weather. Also the Jet streams.
>> More complicated than you believe although I do admit for a clearer
>> weapon the half life is a factor.
>
>Still not a problem for those outside the blast area.

Outside the fallout area dumbass.
>
>>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>> >
>>>> >No.
>>>>
>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>
>>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>>
>> How much of your electronics are guarded? Do you even have any
>> protection from it in the average home? Are water supplies protected
>> in OZ?
>
>Don't need to be when only Pine Gap and Harold Holt would be nuked.

The you work for Russia and they told you? You are blinded by your
agenda of stupidity
>
>>> Yes the West will get blind.
>>
>> True.
>>
>>> They will lose lot more.
>>
>> Russia will also be destroyed for the most part.
>
>Bullshit. Vast areas wouldn't be.
>
>> Like I said, no one wins.
>
>Plenty don't lose much.
>
>>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>> >
>>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy representative.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>
>>> So who is smart in the US.
>>> Your system is badly flawed.
>>
>> OK.
>>
>>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>>
>> OK. Putin, I hope, isn't the best Russia, has.
>
>Corse it is. That's why he rules the roost there.

Then you are saying your Current Australian leader is the best you
have? Interesting.
>
>>> See, how stupid you are!
>>> The equal of Petz here.
>>>
>>>
>>>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change
>>>> of the assailant?
>>>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>> >
>>>> >Rubbish.
>>>>
>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>
>>> Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>>
>> Some are.
>
>Nope, none are.
You use absolutes and have no way of knowing. You sound like a
religious nut.
>
>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>
>>> I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their Bappachka.
>>
>> Sure, you are a loyal Communist.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
>Russia hasn't been communist for decades now, stupid.

Actually it is much like a fascist state.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:18:47 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:53:59 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:24:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:46:57 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>>>>
>>>> Yet you are.
>>>>
>>> Not Rod Speed
>>>>>
>>>>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.
>>>>
>>> Putin is looking at another slice of Salami (Syria,
>>
>> Putin hasn't got any of Syria or Georgia.
>>
> He has his obeyers in Control

Bullshit he has in either of them.

>>> Chechnya, now
>>> Ukraine) next looks like it's Alaska.
>>
>> Fantasy. NATO wouldn't allow it.
>>
>>> <https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-gov-reacts-russia-wants-back-good-luck-ukraine-1688431>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/y6eawgyf
>>
>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
> Putin said this

Pure bluff, only fools are bluffed.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:32:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:46:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:37:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:40:06 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:17:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, he wouldn't have got to where he is in russia by being an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> He has become an idiot.
>>>
>>> Nope, he will likely grab the two eastern provinces of the Ukraine,
>>> achieve a land bridge to the Crimea and grab at least two very useful
>>> black sea ports.
>>>
>>>>> He has in fact done a hell of a lot better than you have ever managed.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like politics. Well working in that field. Then again you
>>>> don't even know what I doi.
>>>
>>> Its obvious that Putin has managed FAR more than you have.
>>>
>>>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have never had a fucking clue.
>>>>
>>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>>
>>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>>
>> Yet you are.
>
>Nope, dope.

Then you are just trolling here.

>
>>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>>
>>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:41 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:28:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:46:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:26 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable,
>>>>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never happened.
>>>>
>>>>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>>>>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>>>>
>>>> Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>>>> claimed that they were just joint military exercises.
>>>
>>> Very long term exercises I guess.
>>
>> It wasnt that long term.
>>
>>> Please tell me you didn't fall
>>> for that.
>>
>> Corse I didnt.
>>
>>>>
>>>> And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Fact.
>>
>>> Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.
>>
>> Corse I do.
>>
>>>>>>> was acceptable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been
>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ill give you that
>>>>
>>>>>>> what he was planning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that
>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>> and believe him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>>>>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid enough
>>>>>> to believe that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many still do even some Australians.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.
>>>
>>> You do have many.
>>
>> Nope, hardly any are as stupid as that one.
>
> Sydney and southern Melbourne have many.

Hardly any as stupid as our curry muncher.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:10:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:10:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think you are wrong.
>>>>
>>>> No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in
>>>> Russia.
>>>
>>> Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the empty
>>> areas of Siberia.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>>
>>>>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>
>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>> which of the two would lose more.
>>>
>>> I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
>>> most empty areas left.
>>
>> Nope, dope.
>>
>>> No one wins a nuclear war.
>>
>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>> which of the two would lose more.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>>>>> So don't push it, fool.
>>>>
>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>>>>
>>>> Fallout is very survivable.
>>>
>>> No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
>>> account.
>>
>> BULLSHIT.
>>
>>> Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it?
>>
>> Everyone has.
>>
>>> Do you
>>> have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits?
>>
>> Don't need either to survive fine, as Chernobyle proved.
>>
>>> Are you what in the USA is
>>> called a survivalist?
>>
>> Nope, not that stupid and don't need to be to survive fine.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>>>> That
>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>
>>>> But isn't a major problem.
>>>
>>> For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for high
>>> yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many blast.
>>
>> Not in the sparsely populated areas of Russia.
>>
>>> Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.
>>
>> Not enough to matter and there would be
>> no point in nuking swan island anyway.

> Really?

Fraid so, nothing there is any threat to russia in a nuclear holocaust.

> OK.

>>>>>> Depending on the
>>>>>>> winds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only local damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Fact.
>>>>
>>>>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>
>>>> Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>>>> US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.
>>
>>> Check it out.
>>
>> Don't need to.
>>
>>> This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
>>> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
>>
>> Irrelevant to what might happen if the russians nuked Pine Gap
>> and Harold Holt.
>
> Not to some. Maybe to you.

You are pathetic.

>>> Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A ground
>>> burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.
>>
>> Of which Pine Gap and Harold Holt are neither.
>
> You are lying again.

Nope, not with the stuff that is crucial to their operations.

That isn't even possible.

>>>>>>> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>>> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the assailant?
>>>>>>> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>>> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rubbish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, too far fetched for anyone to believe his shit.
>>>
>>> Maybe
>>
>> No maybe about it.
>>
>>> but many people fall for propoganda type bullshit.
>>
>> None that matter.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>> You have on fallout
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>> and its long term effects on the enviroment.
>>
>> Chernobyle did fine.
>
> Really and then maybe the effect didn't go a mile up in a fireball.

Even the tests that did, didnt produce that result.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:39:03 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:36:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>
>>>> China will, without firing a shot.
>>>
>>> I doubt China would win either or that they would want one. To
>>> much environmental damage long term.
>>
>> Bullshit, the area around Chernobyle is doing fine.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>
.
>>>> We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>>>>>
>>>>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>
>>>> It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>>>> As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>>>
>>> Who invaded Russia? Who threatened to?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >The
>>>>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >No.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>
>>>> No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall
>>>> to
>>>> the ground
>>>> due to gravity.
>>>
>>> Depends on the yield and if ground or air burst.
>>
>> Nope.
>
> You believe theh effects of a ground burst and air burst are the
> same?

Corse not.

>>
>>>> The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>>>> There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>>>
>>> Then the radiation that traveled because of the
>>> Fukushima nuclear problem was false.
>>
>> Didnt do any harm to anyone.
>
> Don't know yet.

Corse we do.

> Fact is a limited accident made it so far.

But did no harm to anyone except one
reactor person who had a heart attack.

>>> Well, some of it was. Yet it
>>> still affected women's breast milk as well as other food products and
>>> although diluted, did reach the USA from Japan.
>>
>> But didn't do any harm to anyone.
>>
>>>>> >Depending on the
>>>>> >> winds.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Only local damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>>>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>>
>>> No idea what you are talking about.
>>
>> The use of the word bullshit, stupid.
>>
>>>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>
>>>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>>
>>> You do know the fireball can travel above a mile into the air
>>> correct? Then you have the updraft to over 5 miles or more. Then it
>>> all depends on where it is and the weather. Also the Jet streams.
>>> More complicated than you believe although I do admit for a clearer
>>> weapon the half life is a factor.
>>
>> Still not a problem for those outside the blast area.
>
> Outside the fallout area dumbass.

Those in the fallout area would be fine.

>>>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>
>>>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>>>
>>> How much of your electronics are guarded? Do you even have any
>>> protection from it in the average home? Are water supplies protected
>>> in OZ?
>>
>> Don't need to be when only Pine Gap and Harold Holt would be nuked.
>
> The you work for Russia

Nope.

> and they told you?

Nope, those are the only things that would matter
to russia if there was a nuclear holocaust.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>>>

>>>> Yes the West will get blind.
>>>
>>> True.
>>>
>>>> They will lose lot more.
>>>
>>> Russia will also be destroyed for the most part.
>>
>> Bullshit. Vast areas wouldn't be.
>>
>>> Like I said, no one wins.
>>
>> Plenty don't lose much.
>>
>>>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>> representative.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>
>>>> So who is smart in the US.
>>>> Your system is badly flawed.
>>>
>>> OK.
>>>
>>>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>>>
>>> OK. Putin, I hope, isn't the best Russia, has.
>>
>> Corse it is. That's why he rules the roost there.

> Then you are saying your Current Australian leader is the best you
> have?

Nope. He doesnt rule the roost here, fuckwit. No one does here.

> Interesting.

Pathetic, as always in your case.

>>>> See, how stupid you are!
>>>> The equal of Petz here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change
>>>>> of the assailant?
>>>>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Rubbish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>
>>>> Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>>>
>>> Some are.
>>
>> Nope, none are.

> You use absolutes and have no way of knowing.

If they were great, we would see the result of their greatness, fuckwit.

> You sound like a
> religious nut.

Then you need a new hearing aid, BAD.

>>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>>
>>>> I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their
>>>> Bappachka.
>>>
>>> Sure, you are a loyal Communist.
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>
>> Russia hasn't been communist for decades now, stupid.
>
> Actually it is much like a fascist state.


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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 04:15 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:40:25 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:32:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:46:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:37:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:40:06 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:17:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, he wouldn't have got to where he is in russia by being an
>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> He has become an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, he will likely grab the two eastern provinces of the Ukraine,
>>>> achieve a land bridge to the Crimea and grab at least two very useful
>>>> black sea ports.
>>>>
>>>>>> He has in fact done a hell of a lot better than you have ever
>>>>>> managed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like politics. Well working in that field. Then again you
>>>>> don't even know what I doi.
>>>>
>>>> Its obvious that Putin has managed FAR more than you have.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total
>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have never had a fucking clue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>>>
>>>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>>>
>>> Yet you are.
>>
>> Nope, dope.
>
> Then you are just trolling here.

Nope, rubbing your nose in your terminal stupiditys.

Corse you never ever troll here, eh ?

>>>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>>>
>>>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 04:52 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>
>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>
>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>
>But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>
>And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>happened.
>
Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 04:57 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:38:15 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:13:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:51:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Missile launching require satellite guidance
>>>
>>> Nope, dope.
>>>
>> IBM's need satellite guidance
>
> Bullshit they do. INS works fine with nukes.
>
>>>> the Russian satellites
>>>> will be down,
>>>
>>> Nope, dope.
>>>
>> Not hard for US to do
>
> But easy for russia to notice that and launch the nukes.
>
>>>> the Sub captain/Admiral won't receive orders.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>> No ability to send or receive communications
>
> Wrong, as always. Not possible to show up in russia
> with what would be needed to take out all comms
> without the russians noticing before they were
> actually in russia and launching their nukes while
> comms is still possible.
>
>>>> Then have no home to go
>>>
>>> Don't need one once they have produced a nuke holocaust.
>>>
>> The Russian Subs are easily muttered
>
> Not when you don't know where they are.
>
>>>> to no food to eat.
>>>
>>> Why would that evaporate ?
>>>
>> Russian Subs are not long term accommodation.
>
> Bullshit with the nuke missile subs.

And after launching the nuke missiles, all they
have to do is head off to somewhere which
would not be nukes like the Canary Islands
or a port in western africa or eastern south
america and get plenty of food there.

>>> And even if they did all starve to death, the
>>> countrys they targetted would be fucked anyway.
>>>
>>> Just a few more corpses added to the immense pile they produced.
>>>
>> Russia if the West does it right
>
> Not even possible to do it and not get nuked.
>
>> and traitors Biden/Obama and family
>> striped of wealth and hung no problem.
>
> Not even possible either.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:14 UTC

On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 12:32:33 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Bappachka = old woman?
> >
> >No, a Russian affectionate added to Bappa, my home-name.
> >
> They tagged you as a foolish old woman!

No, fool.
You are confusing with babushka.

> Understand Russian from my neighbor's translation.
> He grew up in St Petersburg new Putin, said Putin was a cry baby and
> dobber then.

I grew up in Ranchi among Russians and Czechs.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:33 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>
>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>
>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>
>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>
>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>> happened.

> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites

No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.

> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late

Fantasy.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:58 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>
>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>
>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>> happened.
>
>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>
> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>
>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>
> Fantasy.

You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
don't have a tick system with their ELF sub comms system
so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 06:13 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:58:07 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>
>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>
>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>> happened.
>>
>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>
>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>
>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>>
>> Fantasy.
>
> You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
> don't have a tick system

Heartbeat system.

> with their ELF sub comms system
> so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
> then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
> been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
> launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?

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From: pet...@gmail.com (Petzl)
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Subject: Re: USA to blame
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:32:29 +1000
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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:32 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:57:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>
>>> Russian Subs are not long term accommodation.
>>
>> Bullshit with the nuke missile subs.
>
>And after launching the nuke missiles, all they
>have to do is head off to somewhere which
>would not be nukes like the Canary Islands
>or a port in western africa or eastern south
>america and get plenty of food there.
>
Not how a nuclear winter works!
The whole planet dies after 50 nukes explode
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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