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* USA to blameArindam Banerjee
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Re: USA to blame

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:37 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:14:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 12:32:33 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Bappachka = old woman?
>> >
>> >No, a Russian affectionate added to Bappa, my home-name.
>> >
>> They tagged you as a foolish old woman!
>
>No, fool.
>You are confusing with babushka.
>
]Not according to my Russian neighbor no confusion you were being
called a old woman a fool
>
>> Understand Russian from my neighbor's translation.
>> He grew up in St Petersburg new Putin, said Putin was a cry baby and
>> dobber then.
>
>I grew up in Ranchi among Russians and Czechs.
>
Good for you
--
Petzl
Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

Re: USA to blame

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:38 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> Russian Subs are not long term accommodation.

>>> Bullshit with the nuke missile subs.

>> And after launching the nuke missiles, all they
>> have to do is head off to somewhere which
>> would not be nukes like the Canary Islands
>> or a port in western africa or eastern south
>> america and get plenty of food there.

> Not how a nuclear winter works!

Fraid so. There would be no nuclear winter just
after they had fired off their nukes, that comes
MUCH later and there would be no nuclear
winter in the southern hemisphere anyway.

> The whole planet dies after 50 nukes explode

BULLSHIT.

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Subject: Re: USA to blame
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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:43 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>
>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>
>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>> happened.
>
>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>
>No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>
INS won't work accurately without GPS
>
>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>
>Fantasy.
>
nope
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:54 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:58:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>
>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>
>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>> happened.
>>
>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>
>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>
>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>>
>> Fantasy.
>
>You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
>don't have a tick system with their ELF sub comms system
>so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
>then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
>been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
>launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?
>
Don't believe so
ELF was discontinued early in the Millennium
Needed a extremely large Antenna took ages to send a transmission.
Was replaced by US with VLF which Russia does not have.
--
Petzl
The land of the "FREE"
** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:46 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:43:48 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>
>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>
>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>> happened.
>>
>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>
>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>
> INS won't work accurately without GPS

You don't need accuracy with nukes.

INS is plenty accurate enough when nuking a city.

>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late

>> Fantasy.

> nope

Yep, as I rubbed your nose in in the other post.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:52 UTC

On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 17:37:35 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:14:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 12:32:33 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Bappachka = old woman?
> >> >
> >> >No, a Russian affectionate added to Bappa, my home-name.
> >> >
> >> They tagged you as a foolish old woman!
> >
> >No, fool.
> >You are confusing with babushka.
> >
> ]Not according to my Russian neighbor no confusion you were being
> called a old woman a fool

No fool like you.
One cannot call a seven year old an old woman.
Not your hated communists who are nothing if not rational.

How did you mange to become this stupid?
Dedication to bigotry, probably.
> >
> >> Understand Russian from my neighbor's translation.
> >> He grew up in St Petersburg new Putin, said Putin was a cry baby and
> >> dobber then.
> >
> >I grew up in Ranchi among Russians and Czechs.
> >
> Good for you

Yes.
> --
> Petzl
> Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
> The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
> Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
> Not confirmation of their delusions.
> The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
> Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
> Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:50 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:54:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:58:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>
>>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>>
>>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>>> happened.
>>>
>>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>>
>>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>>
>>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>>>
>>> Fantasy.
>>
>> You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
>> don't have a tick system with their ELF sub comms system
>> so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
>> then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
>> been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
>> launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?

> Don't believe so

Fraid so.

> ELF was discontinued early in the Millennium

Bullshit with russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency

And its just as true of VLF anyway.

> Needed a extremely large Antenna took ages to send a transmission.
> Was replaced by US with VLF which Russia does not have.

Wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Very_low_frequency

You seriously believe that the russians have no way of telling
their nuke missile subs that they need to launch their missiles ?

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:18 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:50:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:54:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:58:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>>>
>>>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>>>
>>>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>>>>
>>>> Fantasy.
>>>
>>> You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
>>> don't have a tick system with their ELF sub comms system
>>> so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
>>> then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
>>> been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
>>> launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?
>
>> Don't believe so
>
>Fraid so.
>
>> ELF was discontinued early in the Millennium
>
>Bullshit with russia
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
>
>And its just as true of VLF anyway.
>
>> Needed a extremely large Antenna took ages to send a transmission.
>> Was replaced by US with VLF which Russia does not have.
>
>Wrong
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Very_low_frequency
>
>You seriously believe that the russians have no way of telling
>their nuke missile subs that they need to launch their missiles ?
>
not when Russia has lost it com system.
By then every Russian sub would of ceased to be
--
Petzl
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** ballot harvesting
** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

These factors resulted in millions of fraudulent votes in the 2020 election.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:36 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:18:51 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:50:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:54:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:58:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>>>>
>>>>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>>>>>
>>>>> Fantasy.
>>>>
>>>> You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
>>>> don't have a tick system with their ELF sub comms system
>>>> so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
>>>> then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
>>>> been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
>>>> launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?
>>
>>> Don't believe so
>>
>> Fraid so.
>>
>>> ELF was discontinued early in the Millennium
>>
>> Bullshit with russia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
>>
>> And its just as true of VLF anyway.
>>
>>> Needed a extremely large Antenna took ages to send a transmission.
>>> Was replaced by US with VLF which Russia does not have.
>>
>> Wrong
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Very_low_frequency
>>
>> You seriously believe that the russians have no way of telling
>> their nuke missile subs that they need to launch their missiles ?
>>
> not when Russia has lost it com system.

That's what the heartbeat system is for, and orders
on launching the nukes when that happens.

> By then every Russian sub would of ceased to be

Just another of your pathetic little fantasy.

The whole point of nuke missile subs is that no
one knows where they are when at sea, stupid.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:36:05 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:18:51 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:50:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:54:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:58:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting EMF.
>>>>>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>>>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>>>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>>>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>>>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>>>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fantasy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
>>>>> don't have a tick system with their ELF sub comms system
>>>>> so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
>>>>> then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
>>>>> been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
>>>>> launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?
>>>
>>>> Don't believe so
>>>
>>> Fraid so.
>>>
>>>> ELF was discontinued early in the Millennium
>>>
>>> Bullshit with russia
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
>>>
>>> And its just as true of VLF anyway.
>>>
>>>> Needed a extremely large Antenna took ages to send a transmission.
>>>> Was replaced by US with VLF which Russia does not have.
>>>
>>> Wrong
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Very_low_frequency
>>>
>>> You seriously believe that the russians have no way of telling
>>> their nuke missile subs that they need to launch their missiles ?
>>>
>> not when Russia has lost it com system.
>
>That's what the heartbeat system is for, and orders
>on launching the nukes when that happens.
>
>> By then every Russian sub would of ceased to be
>
>Just another of your pathetic little fantasy.
>
>The whole point of nuke missile subs is that no
>one knows where they are when at sea, stupid.
>
The US knows where every Russian sub is every second of the day
Russian subs can badly receive transmission but not send.
Most of what Russia claims is lying crap!
--
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** late-night ballot drops
** massive ballot trafficking
** blocking GOP observers from the counting rooms
** only hiring Democrats to count votes
** ignoring chain of custody laws
** weak Republican lawmakers
** corrupted ballot-counting machines
** Destroying the evidence
** bloated voter rolls

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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:13 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:41:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:28:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:46:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:26 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the fabric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by armies
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul running
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable,
>>>>>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never happened.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>>>>>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>>>>> claimed that they were just joint military exercises.
>>>>
>>>> Very long term exercises I guess.
>>>
>>> It wasnt that long term.
>>>
>>>> Please tell me you didn't fall
>>>> for that.
>>>
>>> Corse I didnt.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> Fact.
>>>
>>>> Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.
>>>
>>> Corse I do.
>>>
>>>>>>>> was acceptable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>>>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ill give you that
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what he was planning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>>>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that
>>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>>> and believe him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>>>>>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid enough
>>>>>>> to believe that too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many still do even some Australians.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.
>>>>
>>>> You do have many.
>>>
>>> Nope, hardly any are as stupid as that one.
>>
>> Sydney and southern Melbourne have many.
>
>Hardly any as stupid as our curry muncher.

I've been to both you have some true idiots there.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:05:56 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:10:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:10:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think you are wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in
>>>>> Russia.
>>>>
>>>> Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the empty
>>>> areas of Siberia.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>>> belongs>
>>>
>>>>>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>>
>>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>>> which of the two would lose more.
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
>>>> most empty areas left.
>>>
>>> Nope, dope.
>>>
>>>> No one wins a nuclear war.
>>>
>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>> which of the two would lose more.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>

That is what you do when you don't agree with it, but are unable to
refute it.

>
>>>>>>> So don't push it, fool.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fallout is very survivable.
>>>>
>>>> No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
>>>> account.
>>>
>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>
>>>> Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it?
>>>
>>> Everyone has.
>>>
>>>> Do you
>>>> have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits?
>>>
>>> Don't need either to survive fine, as Chernobyle proved.
>>>
>>>> Are you what in the USA is
>>>> called a survivalist?
>>>
>>> Nope, not that stupid and don't need to be to survive fine.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>

That is what you do when you don't agree with it, but are unable to
refute it.
>
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>>
>>>>> But isn't a major problem.
>>>>
>>>> For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for high
>>>> yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many blast.
>>>
>>> Not in the sparsely populated areas of Russia.
>>>
>>>> Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.
>>>
>>> Not enough to matter and there would be
>>> no point in nuking swan island anyway.
>
>> Really?
>
>Fraid so, nothing there is any threat to russia in a nuclear holocaust.

Don't know but your ignorance is showing.
>
>> OK.
>
>>>>>>> Depending on the
>>>>>>>> winds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only local damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fact.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>>>>> US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.
>>>
>>>> Check it out.
>>>
>>> Don't need to.
>>>
>>>> This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
>>>> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
>>>
>>> Irrelevant to what might happen if the russians nuked Pine Gap
>>> and Harold Holt.
>>
>> Not to some. Maybe to you.
>
>You are pathetic.
>
>>>> Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A ground
>>>> burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Of which Pine Gap and Harold Holt are neither.
>>
>> You are lying again.
>
>Nope, not with the stuff that is crucial to their operations.

What the dishes? Your ignorance is showing.
>
>That isn't even possible.
>
>>>>>>>> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>>>> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>>> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the assailant?
>>>>>>>> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>>>> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rubbish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, too far fetched for anyone to believe his shit.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe
>>>
>>> No maybe about it.
>>>
>>>> but many people fall for propoganda type bullshit.
>>>
>>> None that matter.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>
>
>>>> You have on fallout
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>> and its long term effects on the enviroment.
>>>
>>> Chernobyle did fine.
>>
>> Really and then maybe the effect didn't go a mile up in a fireball.
>
>Even the tests that did, didnt produce that result.


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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:13:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:39:03 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:36:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>>
>>>>> China will, without firing a shot.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt China would win either or that they would want one. To
>>>> much environmental damage long term.
>>>
>>> Bullshit, the area around Chernobyle is doing fine.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>

That is what you do when you don't agree with it, but are unable to
refute it.
> .
>>>>> We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>>>>> As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>>>>
>>>> Who invaded Russia? Who threatened to?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >The
>>>>>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall
>>>>> to
>>>>> the ground
>>>>> due to gravity.
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the yield and if ground or air burst.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> You believe theh effects of a ground burst and air burst are the
>> same?
>
>Corse not.
>
>>>
>>>>> The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>>>>> There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>>>>
>>>> Then the radiation that traveled because of the
>>>> Fukushima nuclear problem was false.
>>>
>>> Didnt do any harm to anyone.
>>
>> Don't know yet.
>
>Corse we do.
>
>> Fact is a limited accident made it so far.
>
>But did no harm to anyone except one
>reactor person who had a heart attack.
>
>>>> Well, some of it was. Yet it
>>>> still affected women's breast milk as well as other food products and
>>>> although diluted, did reach the USA from Japan.
>>>
>>> But didn't do any harm to anyone.
>>>
>>>>>> >Depending on the
>>>>>> >> winds.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Only local damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>>>>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>>>
>>>> No idea what you are talking about.
>>>
>>> The use of the word bullshit, stupid.
>>>
>>>>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>>>
>>>> You do know the fireball can travel above a mile into the air
>>>> correct? Then you have the updraft to over 5 miles or more. Then it
>>>> all depends on where it is and the weather. Also the Jet streams.
>>>> More complicated than you believe although I do admit for a clearer
>>>> weapon the half life is a factor.
>>>
>>> Still not a problem for those outside the blast area.
>>
>> Outside the fallout area dumbass.
>
>Those in the fallout area would be fine.
>
>>>>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>>
>>>>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>>>>
>>>> How much of your electronics are guarded? Do you even have any
>>>> protection from it in the average home? Are water supplies protected
>>>> in OZ?
>>>
>>> Don't need to be when only Pine Gap and Harold Holt would be nuked.
>>
>> The you work for Russia
>
>Nope.
>
>> and they told you?
>
>Nope, those are the only things that would matter
>to russia if there was a nuclear holocaust.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>>>
>
>>>>> Yes the West will get blind.
>>>>
>>>> True.
>>>>
>>>>> They will lose lot more.
>>>>
>>>> Russia will also be destroyed for the most part.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. Vast areas wouldn't be.
>>>
>>>> Like I said, no one wins.
>>>
>>> Plenty don't lose much.
>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total idiot.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> So who is smart in the US.
>>>>> Your system is badly flawed.
>>>>
>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>>>>
>>>> OK. Putin, I hope, isn't the best Russia, has.
>>>
>>> Corse it is. That's why he rules the roost there.
>
>> Then you are saying your Current Australian leader is the best you
>> have?
>
>Nope. He doesnt rule the roost here, fuckwit. No one does here.
>
>> Interesting.
>
>Pathetic, as always in your case.
>
>>>>> See, how stupid you are!
>>>>> The equal of Petz here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character change
>>>>>> of the assailant?
>>>>>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Rubbish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>>>>
>>>> Some are.
>>>
>>> Nope, none are.
>
>> You use absolutes and have no way of knowing.
>
>If they were great, we would see the result of their greatness, fuckwit.
>
>> You sound like a
>> religious nut.
>
>Then you need a new hearing aid, BAD.
>
>>>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their
>>>>> Bappachka.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, you are a loyal Communist.
>>>
>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>
>>> Russia hasn't been communist for decades now, stupid.
>>
>> Actually it is much like a fascist state.
>
>Which isnt a communist state, fuckwit.


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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:42 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:15:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:40:25 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:32:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:46:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:37:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:40:06 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:17:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, he wouldn't have got to where he is in russia by being an
>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He has become an idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, he will likely grab the two eastern provinces of the Ukraine,
>>>>> achieve a land bridge to the Crimea and grab at least two very useful
>>>>> black sea ports.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> He has in fact done a hell of a lot better than you have ever
>>>>>>> managed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't like politics. Well working in that field. Then again you
>>>>>> don't even know what I doi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its obvious that Putin has managed FAR more than you have.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total
>>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have never had a fucking clue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>>>>
>>>> Yet you are.
>>>
>>> Nope, dope.
>>
>> Then you are just trolling here.
>
>Nope, rubbing your nose in your terminal stupiditys.

As I have said, you are just trolling. You must have understandably
low self-esteem with someone of your educational level and the
failures you have had in your life to date. It is understandable that
you need to troll to feel better about yourself
>
>Corse you never ever troll here, eh ?
>
>>>>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:13 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 21:23:59 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:36:05 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:18:51 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:50:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:54:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:58:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +1000, Rod Speed
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:52:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are other non-nuclear methods to wipe electronics.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not even possible to wipe out all electronics
>>>>>>>>>>> in a place like russia in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Each F35 commands 10 drones poisoning Electronics by emitting
>>>>>>>>>> EMF.
>>>>>>>>>> Also detonating Electromagnetic bombs (E-bombs)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But even the russians would notice all those F35s heading
>>>>>>>>> to russia, long before they arrived over russia and would
>>>>>>>>> have launched the nukes long before they got to russia
>>>>>>>>> and attempted to take out all the electronics in russia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And don't try claiming that all the attackers would have
>>>>>>>>> to do is take out all the russian satellites before sending
>>>>>>>>> in the F35s, because Putin would launch the nukes if that
>>>>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Russian IBM's need GPS satellites
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No they don't, INS works fine for nukes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the time Putin knew anything it would be too late
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fantasy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't seriously believe that russian nuke missile subs
>>>>>> don't have a tick system with their ELF sub comms system
>>>>>> so that the sub can see that it has been taken out, and can
>>>>>> then stick up an antenna, see the reports of russia having
>>>>>> been comprehensively fucked over and have orders to
>>>>>> launch their nukes when they can see that has happened ?
>>>>
>>>>> Don't believe so
>>>>
>>>> Fraid so.
>>>>
>>>>> ELF was discontinued early in the Millennium
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit with russia
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
>>>>
>>>> And its just as true of VLF anyway.
>>>>
>>>>> Needed a extremely large Antenna took ages to send a transmission.
>>>>> Was replaced by US with VLF which Russia does not have.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Very_low_frequency
>>>>
>>>> You seriously believe that the russians have no way of telling
>>>> their nuke missile subs that they need to launch their missiles ?
>>>>
>>> not when Russia has lost it com system.
>>
>> That's what the heartbeat system is for, and orders
>> on launching the nukes when that happens.
>>
>>> By then every Russian sub would of ceased to be
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little fantasy.
>>
>> The whole point of nuke missile subs is that no
>> one knows where they are when at sea, stupid.

> The US knows where every Russian sub is every second of the day

Bullshit they do. They wouldn't be doing naval exercises with subs
with everyone trying to work out where each sub is if that was true.

> Russian subs can badly receive transmission but not send.

More pig ignorant bullshit.

> Most of what Russia claims is lying crap!

Separate matter entirely.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:25 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:13:34 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:41:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:28:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:46:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:26 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fabric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by
>>>>>>>>>>>> armies
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul
>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>>>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable,
>>>>>>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>>>>>>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>>>>>> claimed that they were just joint military exercises.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very long term exercises I guess.
>>>>
>>>> It wasnt that long term.
>>>>
>>>>> Please tell me you didn't fall
>>>>> for that.
>>>>
>>>> Corse I didnt.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Fact.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Corse I do.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> was acceptable?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ill give you that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what he was planning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>>>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>>>>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that
>>>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>>>> and believe him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>>>>>>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>> to believe that too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many still do even some Australians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do have many.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, hardly any are as stupid as that one.
>>>
>>> Sydney and southern Melbourne have many.
>>
>> Hardly any as stupid as our curry muncher.
>
> I've been to both you have some true idiots there.

Everyone does, fuckwit. But to claim it is many is just more of your
terminal stupidity.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:29 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:33:37 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:05:56 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:10:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:10:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think you are wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in
>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the empty
>>>>> areas of Siberia.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where
>>>> it
>>>> belongs>
>>>>
>>>>>>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>>>> which of the two would lose more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
>>>>> most empty areas left.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>>
>>>>> No one wins a nuclear war.
>>>>
>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>> which of the two would lose more.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>>>>>>> So don't push it, fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fallout is very survivable.
>>>>>
>>>>> No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
>>>>> account.
>>>>
>>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it?
>>>>
>>>> Everyone has.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you
>>>>> have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits?
>>>>
>>>> Don't need either to survive fine, as Chernobyle proved.
>>>>
>>>>> Are you what in the USA is
>>>>> called a survivalist?
>>>>
>>>> Nope, not that stupid and don't need to be to survive fine.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But isn't a major problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for high
>>>>> yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many blast.
>>>>
>>>> Not in the sparsely populated areas of Russia.
>>>>
>>>>> Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.
>>>>
>>>> Not enough to matter and there would be
>>>> no point in nuking swan island anyway.
>>
>>> Really?
>>
>> Fraid so, nothing there is any threat to russia in a nuclear holocaust.

> Don't know

I do.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>> OK.
>>
>>>>>>>> Depending on the
>>>>>>>>> winds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only local damage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>>>>>> US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.
>>>>
>>>>> Check it out.
>>>>
>>>> Don't need to.
>>>>
>>>>> This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
>>>>> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
>>>>
>>>> Irrelevant to what might happen if the russians nuked Pine Gap
>>>> and Harold Holt.
>>>
>>> Not to some. Maybe to you.
>>
>> You are pathetic.
>>
>>>>> Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A ground
>>>>> burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> Of which Pine Gap and Harold Holt are neither.
>>>
>>> You are lying again.
>>
>> Nope, not with the stuff that is crucial to their operations.

> What the dishes?

That isnt what is important at Harold Holt, fuckwit.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>> That isn't even possible.
>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>>>>> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>>>> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total
>>>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character
>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the assailant?
>>>>>>>>> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>>>>> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rubbish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, too far fetched for anyone to believe his shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe
>>>>
>>>> No maybe about it.
>>>>
>>>>> but many people fall for propoganda type bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> None that matter.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>>
>>>>> You have on fallout
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>> and its long term effects on the enviroment.
>>>>
>>>> Chernobyle did fine.
>>>
>>> Really and then maybe the effect didn't go a mile up in a fireball.
>>
>> Even the tests that did, didnt produce that result.


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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:30 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:35:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:13:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:39:03 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:24:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:36:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 03:03:35 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>>> >> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>>> >> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>>> >> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>>> >> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>>> >> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>>> >> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think you are wrong. No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> China will, without firing a shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt China would win either or that they would want one. To
>>>>> much environmental damage long term.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit, the area around Chernobyle is doing fine.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>>>>> We will all learn to speak Chinese and eat with chop sticks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >So don't push it, fool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is US that is most evilly urging Ukraine to destruction.
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkn3l7mddc
>>>>>> As explained by Maj Gen Bakshi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who invaded Russia? Who threatened to?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >The
>>>>>>> >> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows? That
>>>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. The wind cannot blow heavy radioactive particles which will fall
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the ground
>>>>>> due to gravity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on the yield and if ground or air burst.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> You believe theh effects of a ground burst and air burst are the
>>> same?
>>
>> Corse not.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>> The particulate matter will sink into the ground.
>>>>>> There will be intense local dmage but nothing global.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then the radiation that traveled because of the
>>>>> Fukushima nuclear problem was false.
>>>>
>>>> Didnt do any harm to anyone.
>>>
>>> Don't know yet.
>>
>> Corse we do.
>>
>>> Fact is a limited accident made it so far.
>>
>> But did no harm to anyone except one
>> reactor person who had a heart attack.
>>
>>>>> Well, some of it was. Yet it
>>>>> still affected women's breast milk as well as other food products and
>>>>> although diluted, did reach the USA from Japan.
>>>>
>>>> But didn't do any harm to anyone.
>>>>
>>>>>>> >Depending on the
>>>>>>> >> winds.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Only local damage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your god Rod is infectious!
>>>>>> Stupidity has no limits.
>>>>>
>>>>> No idea what you are talking about.
>>>>
>>>> The use of the word bullshit, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>>>> >Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try flying by flapping your hands.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do know the fireball can travel above a mile into the air
>>>>> correct? Then you have the updraft to over 5 miles or more. Then
>>>>> it
>>>>> all depends on where it is and the weather. Also the Jet streams.
>>>>> More complicated than you believe although I do admit for a clearer
>>>>> weapon the half life is a factor.
>>>>
>>>> Still not a problem for those outside the blast area.
>>>
>>> Outside the fallout area dumbass.
>>
>> Those in the fallout area would be fine.
>>
>>>>>>> >Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>>> >> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EMP will blow unguarded electronics.
>>>>>
>>>>> How much of your electronics are guarded? Do you even have any
>>>>> protection from it in the average home? Are water supplies protected
>>>>> in OZ?
>>>>
>>>> Don't need to be when only Pine Gap and Harold Holt would be nuked.
>>>
>>> The you work for Russia
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>> and they told you?
>>
>> Nope, those are the only things that would matter
>> to russia if there was a nuclear holocaust.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>>>
>>
>>>>>> Yes the West will get blind.
>>>>>
>>>>> True.
>>>>>
>>>>>> They will lose lot more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Russia will also be destroyed for the most part.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Vast areas wouldn't be.
>>>>
>>>>> Like I said, no one wins.
>>>>
>>>> Plenty don't lose much.
>>>>
>>>>>>> >> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>>> >> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>> >> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>> >> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total
>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So who is smart in the US.
>>>>>> Your system is badly flawed.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No chance for any superior person to come up.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. Putin, I hope, isn't the best Russia, has.
>>>>
>>>> Corse it is. That's why he rules the roost there.
>>
>>> Then you are saying your Current Australian leader is the best you
>>> have?
>>
>> Nope. He doesnt rule the roost here, fuckwit. No one does here.
>>
>>> Interesting.
>>
>> Pathetic, as always in your case.
>>
>>>>>> See, how stupid you are!
>>>>>> The equal of Petz here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> of the assailant?
>>>>>>> >> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>>> >> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>>> >> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Rubbish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been there. Was brought up among them. Russians are great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some are.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, none are.
>>
>>> You use absolutes and have no way of knowing.
>>
>> If they were great, we would see the result of their greatness, fuckwit.
>>
>>> You sound like a
>>> religious nut.
>>
>> Then you need a new hearing aid, BAD.
>>
>>>>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not get paid. Merely debts getting repaid here, by their
>>>>>> Bappachka.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, you are a loyal Communist.
>>>>
>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>
>>>> Russia hasn't been communist for decades now, stupid.
>>>
>>> Actually it is much like a fascist state.
>>
>> Which isnt a communist state, fuckwit.


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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:31 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:42:35 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:15:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:40:25 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:32:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:46:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:37:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:40:06 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:17:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, he wouldn't have got to where he is in russia by being an
>>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He has become an idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, he will likely grab the two eastern provinces of the Ukraine,
>>>>>> achieve a land bridge to the Crimea and grab at least two very
>>>>>> useful
>>>>>> black sea ports.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He has in fact done a hell of a lot better than you have ever
>>>>>>>> managed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't like politics. Well working in that field. Then again
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> don't even know what I doi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its obvious that Putin has managed FAR more than you have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total
>>>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have never had a fucking clue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes people see you support Putin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never ever supported Putin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet you are.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>
>>> Then you are just trolling here.
>>
>> Nope, rubbing your nose in your terminal stupiditys.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>> Corse you never ever troll here, eh ?
>>
>>>>>>>> He has got everything he has ever tried to get and will get the
>>>>>>>> two eastern provinces of the Ukraine this time, you watch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like he also wants Moldova area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very likely and may well end up with that too.

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:25:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:13:34 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:41:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:28:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:46:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:26 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fabric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> armies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul
>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not imposing
>>>>>>>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable,
>>>>>>>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>>>>>>>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>>>>>>> claimed that they were just joint military exercises.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very long term exercises I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> It wasnt that long term.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please tell me you didn't fall
>>>>>> for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corse I didnt.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fact.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corse I do.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> was acceptable?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of NATO
>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ill give you that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what he was planning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>>>>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>>>>>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that
>>>>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>>>>> and believe him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia were
>>>>>>>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid
>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>> to believe that too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many still do even some Australians.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do have many.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, hardly any are as stupid as that one.
>>>>
>>>> Sydney and southern Melbourne have many.
>>>
>>> Hardly any as stupid as our curry muncher.
>>
>> I've been to both you have some true idiots there.
>
>Everyone does, fuckwit. But to claim it is many is just more of your
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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:31 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:16:24 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:25:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:13:34 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:41:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:28:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:46:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:06:26 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:58:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:44:00 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:16:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:49:27 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:03:42 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:37:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:50:05 -0700, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin always targeting heavily, residential civilian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and schools, forcing civilians to flee from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They better get out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should they have to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has created columns of refugees and destroyed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fabric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bad happens when puppets or fools rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when arseholes like Putin invade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly looks like Putin again threatens Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moscow will glow in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally Russia needs a armed invasion from all fronts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> armies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all westren nations. Not good having the coward of Kabul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would spark the nukes. Biden's mistake was not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> imposing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sanctions before the invasion
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't do sanctions until Putin does something unacceptable,
>>>>>>>>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's the way sanctions work, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Building up armies to attack on 3 sides
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never happened.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really? Then to build up forces on the Russian side, and from
>>>>>>>>> within Belarus, and from Crimea isn't 3 sides?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, thought you were talking about the non russians.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still not sufficient cause for sanctions given that Putin
>>>>>>>> claimed that they were just joint military exercises.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very long term exercises I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wasnt that long term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please tell me you didn't fall
>>>>>>> for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Corse I didnt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And there was no military buildup in the Crimea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you ever fact check your own bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Corse I do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> was acceptable?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not arming Ukraine before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The invasion wasn't inevitable and the Ukraine isnt part of
>>>>>>>>>>>> NATO
>>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't even asking for arms, so that wouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Only the idiots didn't know when Putin surrounded Ukraine
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It isnt surrounded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ill give you that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what he was planning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And it would have provoked Putin even more, proving to him
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the USA was expanding into the Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin made shit up to be provoked about.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He told the Russian people
>>>>>>>>>>> the Ukrainians were Nazis. Sadly, there are many Russians that
>>>>>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>>>>>> and believe him.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep. He previously claimed that the russian troops in Geogia
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> a peace keaping force and most russians were actually stupid
>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>> to believe that too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many still do even some Australians.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, just some stupid curry muncher.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do have many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, hardly any are as stupid as that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sydney and southern Melbourne have many.
>>>>
>>>> Hardly any as stupid as our curry muncher.
>>>
>>> I've been to both you have some true idiots there.
>>
>> Everyone does, fuckwit. But to claim it is many is just more of your
>> terminal stupidity.


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 by: Mattb - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:35 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:29:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:33:37 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:05:56 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:10:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:10:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>>>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>>>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>>>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>>>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>>>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>>>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Think you are wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in
>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the empty
>>>>>> areas of Siberia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where
>>>>> it
>>>>> belongs>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>>>>> which of the two would lose more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
>>>>>> most empty areas left.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No one wins a nuclear war.
>>>>>
>>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>>> which of the two would lose more.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>
>
>>>>>>>>> So don't push it, fool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fallout is very survivable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
>>>>>> account.
>>>>>
>>>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone has.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you
>>>>>> have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't need either to survive fine, as Chernobyle proved.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you what in the USA is
>>>>>> called a survivalist?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, not that stupid and don't need to be to survive fine.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>
>
>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But isn't a major problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for high
>>>>>> yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many blast.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not in the sparsely populated areas of Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not enough to matter and there would be
>>>>> no point in nuking swan island anyway.
>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Fraid so, nothing there is any threat to russia in a nuclear holocaust.
>
>> Don't know
>
>I do.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>
>
>>>> OK.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Depending on the
>>>>>>>>>> winds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only local damage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>>>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then you
>>>>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>>>>>>> US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Check it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't need to.
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
>>>>>> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
>>>>>
>>>>> Irrelevant to what might happen if the russians nuked Pine Gap
>>>>> and Harold Holt.
>>>>
>>>> Not to some. Maybe to you.
>>>
>>> You are pathetic.
>>>
>>>>>> Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A ground
>>>>>> burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of which Pine Gap and Harold Holt are neither.
>>>>
>>>> You are lying again.
>>>
>>> Nope, not with the stuff that is crucial to their operations.
>
>> What the dishes?
>
>That isnt what is important at Harold Holt, fuckwit.

Depends on your definition. VLF just has a different type of
antenna.
>
><reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>
>
>>> That isn't even possible.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >Putin will act like Gandhi-style?
>>>>>>>>>> >> Putin is a idiot.
>>>>>>>>>> >No, he is very intelligent.
>>>>>>>>>> No that he is not. Well not anymore rather dull and a total
>>>>>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is what you yourself are, with Biden as a worthy
>>>>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Both suck IMO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >Take one slap after the other, and hope for a character
>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the assailant?
>>>>>>>>>> >> What a thing to suggest about Putin.
>>>>>>>>>> >I was being sarcastic.
>>>>>>>>>> That can get you 15 years in Russia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rubbish.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go there and try it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are quite the propaganda machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, too far fetched for anyone to believe his shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>
>>>>> No maybe about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> but many people fall for propoganda type bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> None that matter.
>>>
>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>>> belongs>
>>>
>>>>>> You have on fallout
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and its long term effects on the enviroment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chernobyle did fine.
>>>>
>>>> Really and then maybe the effect didn't go a mile up in a fireball.
>>>
>>> Even the tests that did, didnt produce that result.
>
>> One
>
>More of your pig ignorant bullshit.
>
>> versus hundred to thousands.
>
>Spread out all over the northern hemisphere, fuckwit.


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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:35:30 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:29:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:33:37 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:05:56 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:32:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:10:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:10:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 05:25:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 03:03:28 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 14:22:59 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You think US will not be affected?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> The whole world would be affected.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Not as much as the US.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Their proud GDP will vanish.
>>>>>>>>>>> >For thirdworlders, not much change from the usual.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Welcome to the stone age, they will say to the US.
>>>>>>>>>>> You are insane. Russia would be gone as much of the USA, true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> False, much less gone than the USA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Think you are wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No he is not. There are far more major citys in the USA than in
>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you are claiming this because the USA would not bomb the
>>>>>>> empty
>>>>>>> areas of Siberia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> belongs>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No one wins a Nuclear war.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>>>>>> which of the two would lose more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm talking about what is left, you are talking about who has the
>>>>>>> most empty areas left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one wins a nuclear war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He wasn't talking about winning, he was talking about
>>>>>> which of the two would lose more.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>>
>>>>>>>>>> So don't push it, fool.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is Putin that would push it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> effects of the bombs would effect most the world.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You do not believe fallout would go wherever the wind blows?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fallout is very survivable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No not unless you are prepared and other factors are taken into
>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have what it takes on hand to survive it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone has.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you
>>>>>>> have Potassium Iodine tablets or suits?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't need either to survive fine, as Chernobyle proved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you what in the USA is
>>>>>>> called a survivalist?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, not that stupid and don't need to be to survive fine.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>>
>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>> the particulate matter would not also move around?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But isn't a major problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a single bomb maybe not and for lower yield air blast, for
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>> yield ground blast it is a problem. Then there would be many
>>>>>>> blast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not in the sparsely populated areas of Russia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Say if they hit Swan Island the fallout could reach Sydney.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not enough to matter and there would be
>>>>>> no point in nuking swan island anyway.
>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> Fraid so, nothing there is any threat to russia in a nuclear
>>>> holocaust.
>>
>>> Don't know
>>
>> I do.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>>
>>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Depending on the
>>>>>>>>>>> winds.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only local damage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heavy elements do not fly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even if China did not get involved they would be effected
>>>>>>>>>>> just from the fallout. OZ would even be effected.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look it up. Also depends on if air burst or ground. Then
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have the limited EMP effects. Yes even OZ would be affected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only very minorly with Pine Gap and Harold Holt and maybe the
>>>>>>>> US Marines base in the NT would be nuked. Not big deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't need to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a very basic tool that is open to the public.
>>>>>>> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant to what might happen if the russians nuked Pine Gap
>>>>>> and Harold Holt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to some. Maybe to you.
>>>>
>>>> You are pathetic.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Try adding fallout effects and then change to ground burst. A
>>>>>>> ground
>>>>>>> burst is more likely if going after hardened infrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of which Pine Gap and Harold Holt are neither.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are lying again.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, not with the stuff that is crucial to their operations.
>>
>>> What the dishes?
>>
>> That isnt what is important at Harold Holt, fuckwit.


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 by: Petzl - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 21:46 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:42:35 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
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>>> Then you are just trolling here.
>>
>>Nope, rubbing your nose in your terminal stupiditys.
>
> As I have said, you are just trolling. You must have understandably
>low self-esteem with someone of your educational level and the
>failures you have had in your life to date. It is understandable that
>you need to troll to feel better about yourself
>>
Called talking others down to try to make yourself look up!
>
>>Corse you never ever troll here, eh ?
>>

Re: USA to blame

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 06:42 UTC

On Friday, 29 April 2022 at 07:46:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:42:35 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Then you are just trolling here.
> >>
> >>Nope, rubbing your nose in your terminal stupiditys.
> >
> > As I have said, you are just trolling. You must have understandably
> >low self-esteem with someone of your educational level and the
> >failures you have had in your life to date. It is understandable that
> >you need to troll to feel better about yourself
> >>
> Called talking others down to try to make yourself look up!
> >
> >>Corse you never ever troll here, eh ?
> >>
What a meeting we have here!
Two bigots sucking up to a gassy robot!
The obsolete Marxist orPooch shines in contrast.

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