https://www.9news.com.au/national/woman-critical-another-arrested-after-hitandrun-at-melbourne-tram-stop/0c630a9e-a2e5-4a3d-b546-fc7be99246c7

It's now been revealed that the car was on auto pilot, so how culpable
is the driver now?

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Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
> https://www.9news.com.au/national/woman-critical-another-arrested-after-hitandrun-at-melbourne-tram-stop/0c630a9e-a2e5-4a3d-b546-fc7be99246c7
>
>
> It's now been revealed that the car was on auto pilot, so how culpable
> is the driver now?
>
>

When will Musk admit that LIDAR is needed?

On 22/03/2022 9:03 pm, Clive wrote:
> Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>> https://www.9news.com.au/national/woman-critical-another-arrested-after-hitandrun-at-melbourne-tram-stop/0c630a9e-a2e5-4a3d-b546-fc7be99246c7
>>
>>
>> It's now been revealed that the car was on auto pilot, so how culpable
>> is the driver now?

Completely.
> When will Musk admit that LIDAR is needed?

Cool your jets. So far the only "confirmation" that the car was on
autopilot comes from the woman who was driving the car, and after making
a hit run and then handing her self in hours later she probably invented
the story to try and limit her degree of culpability.

As far as I'm aware fully autonomous cars are not yet legal in
Australia, with cars like the Tesla having driving "aids" that require a
licensed driver to be at the controls and in charge of the vehicle. In
that sense her degree of culpability is 100% and blaming the car is not
going to help her.

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On 22/3/2022 10:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/03/2022 9:03 pm, Clive wrote:
>> Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.9news.com.au/national/woman-critical-another-arrested-after-hitandrun-at-melbourne-tram-stop/0c630a9e-a2e5-4a3d-b546-fc7be99246c7
>>>
>>>
>>> It's now been revealed that the car was on auto pilot, so how
>>> culpable is the driver now?
>
> Completely.
>> When will Musk admit that LIDAR is needed?
>
> Cool your jets. So far the only "confirmation" that the car was on
> autopilot comes from the woman who was driving the car, and after making
> a hit run and then handing her self in hours later she probably invented
> the story to try and limit her degree of culpability.
>
> As far as I'm aware fully autonomous cars are not yet legal in
> Australia, with cars like the Tesla having driving "aids" that require a
> licensed driver to be at the controls and in charge of the vehicle. In
> that sense her degree of culpability is 100% and blaming the car is not
> going to help her.
>
>
>
Difficult to understand why she thought that claiming that the car was
on autopilot was going to limit he liability, people seem to be getting
more stupid by the hour.
Last Friday I drove my friends one year old Kia Cerato from the north
side of Brisbane to the Gold Coast and back, the lane keeping assist was
pretty good at keeping the car in a lane so on a slight left curve on
the fwy I tested it by letting go of the steering wheel to see what
would happen and the car steered around the curve all by itself, with
lane assist and adaptive CC it just about drove itself.
Pretty good but IMHO it still needs an attentive driver in charge as it
was sometimes a bit slow to react to cars moving in and out of the lane
in front of me.

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On 22/03/2022 3:17 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
> https://www.9news.com.au/national/woman-critical-another-arrested-after-hitandrun-at-melbourne-tram-stop/0c630a9e-a2e5-4a3d-b546-fc7be99246c7
>
>
> It's now been revealed that the car was on auto pilot, so how culpable
> is the driver now?
>
>

100% culpable.

From Tesla;

"Q: Do I still need to pay attention while using Autopilot?"

"A: Yes. Autopilot is a hands-on driver assistance system that is
intended to be used only with a fully attentive driver. It does not turn
a Tesla into a self-driving car nor does it make a car autonomous."

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 22/03/2022 10:57 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/3/2022 10:04 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> As far as I'm aware fully autonomous cars are not yet legal in
>> Australia, with cars like the Tesla having driving "aids" that require
>> a licensed driver to be at the controls and in charge of the vehicle.
>> In that sense her degree of culpability is 100% and blaming the car is
>> not going to help her.
>>
>>
>>
> Difficult to understand why she thought that claiming that the car was
> on autopilot was going to limit he liability, people seem to be getting
> more stupid by the hour.

It's a stupid excuse, but then she gave herself very few options once
she'd taken off and left the victim lying on the road.

> Last Friday I drove my friends one year old Kia Cerato from the north
> side of Brisbane to the Gold Coast and back, the lane keeping assist was
> pretty good at keeping the car in a lane so on a slight left curve on
> the fwy I tested it by letting go of the steering wheel to see what
> would happen and the car steered around the curve all by itself, with
> lane assist and adaptive CC it just about drove itself.
> Pretty good but IMHO it still needs an attentive driver in charge as it
> was sometimes a bit slow to react to cars moving in and out of the lane
> in front of me.

Sounds exactly like our Santa Fe. With adaptive cruise, autonomous
braking and lane keeping it will virtually drive itself, and I've done
it many times. I've actually been driving it a lot lately as it gets no
use with the wife having been working from home over the last 2 years,
and I'm actually enjoying all the "smarts" it has. I occasionally let it
drive itself just to watch it do it's thing, but you can only do it for
around 10 seconds or so before it warns you to put your hands on the
wheel. If you ignore that warning it'll go for another 5 seconds or so
before it temporarily disables lane keeping until you grab the wheel again.

It all works pretty well, but there is an element of brittleness and it
occasionally gets spooked in certain situations. I already mentioned the
one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse. Another
odd ball one is if you're driving along letting the adaptive cruise
maintain it's preset distance from a car in front and that car suddenly
pulls off to the side of the road for whatever reason, the car seems to
have trouble working out what they're doing and brakes heavily until it
senses that the road is clear and accelerates back up to speed again.

It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's a
bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys the
crap out of the people behind you.

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Noddy.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:32:50 +1100, Noddy wrote:

snip me me me

> I already mentioned the
> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.

*Another* prang Gibbens? You sure do have a lot.

alvey

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On 22-Mar-22 6:17 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
> https://www.9news.com.au/national/woman-critical-another-arrested-after-hitandrun-at-melbourne-tram-stop/0c630a9e-a2e5-4a3d-b546-fc7be99246c7
>
>
> It's now been revealed that the car was on auto pilot, so how culpable
> is the driver now?
>
>
It makes no difference at all.

Until and unless the law is changed to recognise the self-driving
ability of cars, the driver retains full responsibility for what the
self-drive system does.

Trying to blame the self-drive system would be like claiming one wasn't
responsible for a speeding offence because the cruise control didn't
drop from the 110 km/h it was doing on the free-way to the 50 km/h
required for a built-up area.

Sylvia.

On 23/3/2022 12:32 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/03/2022 10:57 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/3/2022 10:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> As far as I'm aware fully autonomous cars are not yet legal in
>>> Australia, with cars like the Tesla having driving "aids" that
>>> require a licensed driver to be at the controls and in charge of the
>>> vehicle. In that sense her degree of culpability is 100% and blaming
>>> the car is not going to help her.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Difficult to understand why she thought that claiming that the car was
>> on autopilot was going to limit he liability, people seem to be
>> getting more stupid by the hour.
>
> It's a stupid excuse, but then she gave herself very few options once
> she'd taken off and left the victim lying on the road.
>
>> Last Friday I drove my friends one year old Kia Cerato from the north
>> side of Brisbane to the Gold Coast and back, the lane keeping assist
>> was pretty good at keeping the car in a lane so on a slight left curve
>> on the fwy I tested it by letting go of the steering wheel to see what
>> would happen and the car steered around the curve all by itself, with
>> lane assist and adaptive CC it just about drove itself.
>> Pretty good but IMHO it still needs an attentive driver in charge as
>> it was sometimes a bit slow to react to cars moving in and out of the
>> lane in front of me.
>
> Sounds exactly like our Santa Fe. With adaptive cruise, autonomous
> braking and lane keeping it will virtually drive itself, and I've done
> it many times. I've actually been driving it a lot lately as it gets no
> use with the wife having been working from home over the last 2 years,
> and I'm actually enjoying all the "smarts" it has. I occasionally let it
> drive itself just to watch it do it's thing, but you can only do it for
> around 10 seconds or so before it warns you to put your hands on the
> wheel. If you ignore that warning it'll go for another 5 seconds or so
> before it temporarily disables lane keeping until you grab the wheel again.
>
> It all works pretty well, but there is an element of brittleness and it
> occasionally gets spooked in certain situations. I already mentioned the
> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse. Another
> odd ball one is if you're driving along letting the adaptive cruise
> maintain it's preset distance from a car in front and that car suddenly
> pulls off to the side of the road for whatever reason, the car seems to
> have trouble working out what they're doing and brakes heavily until it
> senses that the road is clear and accelerates back up to speed again.
>
> It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's a
> bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys the
> crap out of the people behind you.
>
>
>
Several times when a car moved out of the lane in front of me the Kia
dropped the trans down 2 gears and gave it full throttle but other times
when the same thing happened it accelerated more gently.
I like the tech but its far from perfect so far.

--
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On 22/03/2022 9:32 pm, Noddy wrote:

<snip>

>
> It all works pretty well, but there is an element of brittleness and it
> occasionally gets spooked in certain situations. I already mentioned the
> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.

Uhuh.

Face it, you're an aggressive arsehole on the road which is why you have
so many incidents.

Another
> odd ball one is if you're driving along letting the adaptive cruise
> maintain it's preset distance from a car in front and that car suddenly
> pulls off to the side of the road for whatever reason, the car seems to
> have trouble working out what they're doing and brakes heavily until it
> senses that the road is clear and accelerates back up to speed again.
>
> It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's a
> bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys the
> crap out of the people behind you.
>

The system works for normal people in normal situations. It doesn't have
an "arsehole driver" mode.

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"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 23/3/22 05:55, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:32:50 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
> snip me me me
>
>> I already mentioned the
>> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
>> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
>> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.
>
> *Another* prang Gibbens? You sure do have a lot.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
And the clown caused it too, trying to be a smart arse.

FWIW however, the above bullshit from Darren makes no sense. Darren took
off quickly and was hit up the rear? Say what?

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On 23/03/2022 12:32 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/03/2022 10:57 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/3/2022 10:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> As far as I'm aware fully autonomous cars are not yet legal in
>>> Australia, with cars like the Tesla having driving "aids" that
>>> require a licensed driver to be at the controls and in charge of the
>>> vehicle. In that sense her degree of culpability is 100% and blaming
>>> the car is not going to help her.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Difficult to understand why she thought that claiming that the car
>> was on autopilot was going to limit he liability, people seem to be
>> getting more stupid by the hour.
>
> It's a stupid excuse, but then she gave herself very few options once
> she'd taken off and left the victim lying on the road.
>
>> Last Friday I drove my friends one year old Kia Cerato from the north
>> side of Brisbane to the Gold Coast and back, the lane keeping assist
>> was pretty good at keeping the car in a lane so on a slight left
>> curve on the fwy I tested it by letting go of the steering wheel to
>> see what would happen and the car steered around the curve all by
>> itself, with lane assist and adaptive CC it just about drove itself.
>> Pretty good but IMHO it still needs an attentive driver in charge as
>> it was sometimes a bit slow to react to cars moving in and out of the
>> lane in front of me.
>
> Sounds exactly like our Santa Fe. With adaptive cruise, autonomous
> braking and lane keeping it will virtually drive itself, and I've done
> it many times. I've actually been driving it a lot lately as it gets
> no use with the wife having been working from home over the last 2
> years, and I'm actually enjoying all the "smarts" it has. I
> occasionally let it drive itself just to watch it do it's thing, but
> you can only do it for around 10 seconds or so before it warns you to
> put your hands on the wheel. If you ignore that warning it'll go for
> another 5 seconds or so before it temporarily disables lane keeping
> until you grab the wheel again.
>
> It all works pretty well, but there is an element of brittleness and
> it occasionally gets spooked in certain situations. I already
> mentioned the one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off
> quickly to block a lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the
> car in front and slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run
> up my arse. Another odd ball one is if you're driving along letting
> the adaptive cruise maintain it's preset distance from a car in front
> and that car suddenly pulls off to the side of the road for whatever
> reason, the car seems to have trouble working out what they're doing
> and brakes heavily until it senses that the road is clear and
> accelerates back up to speed again.
>
> It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's
> a bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys
> the crap out of the people behind you.
>
>
>

no way would I ever want a car with 'smarts'. I put self driving cars in
the same basket as EV's. we need to wait until the technology is fully
developed before embracing it.

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On 23/3/22 11:44, Clocky wrote:
> On 22/03/2022 9:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> It all works pretty well, but there is an element of brittleness and
>> it occasionally gets spooked in certain situations. I already
>> mentioned the one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off
>> quickly to block a lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the
>> car in front and slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run
>> up my arse.
>
> Uhuh.
>
> Face it, you're an aggressive arsehole on the road which is why you have
> so many incidents.
>
Don't you mean *dickhead Driver*?
>
>  Another
>> odd ball one is if you're driving along letting the adaptive cruise
>> maintain it's preset distance from a car in front and that car
>> suddenly pulls off to the side of the road for whatever reason, the
>> car seems to have trouble working out what they're doing and brakes
>> heavily until it senses that the road is clear and accelerates back up
>> to speed again.
>>
>> It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's
>> a bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys
>> the crap out of the people behind you.
>>
>
> The system works for normal people in normal situations. It doesn't have
> an "arsehole driver" mode.

Seems like an opportunity there. If the driver acts aggressively the
system slows down to protect *other* drivers. All it needs is an
*aggressive arsehole driver detect mode* in the firmware along with self
learning capability.
>
>
>

--
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On 23/03/2022 12:03 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 23/3/22 05:55, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:32:50 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> snip me me me
>>
>>> I already mentioned the
>>> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
>>> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
>>> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.
>>
>> *Another* prang Gibbens? You sure do have a lot.
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
> And the clown caused it too, trying to be a smart arse.
>
> FWIW however, the above bullshit from Darren makes no sense. Darren
> took off quickly and was hit up the rear? Say what?
>

I don't see a problem. the car braked suddenly and was hit in the rear
by the car behind. but I avoid that possibility as much as possible by
leaving plenty of room between my car and the one infront to allow for
evasive action if necessary, and if I have to brake suddenly the first
thing I do is look in the rear vision mirror.

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"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
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like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 12:03:48 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 23/3/22 05:55, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:32:50 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> snip me me me
>>
>>> I already mentioned the
>>> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
>>> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
>>> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.
>>
>> *Another* prang Gibbens? You sure do have a lot.
>>
>> alvey
>>
> And the clown caused it too, trying to be a smart arse.
>
> FWIW however, the above bullshit from Darren makes no sense. Darren took
> off quickly and was hit up the rear? Say what?

Taking off "quickly" is a relative thing. Like, his elderly Boganmobile
would take off "quickly" compared to his ancient Redneckmobile.

alvey

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On 23/3/22 12:14, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 23/03/2022 12:03 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 23/3/22 05:55, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:32:50 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> snip me me me
>>>
>>>> I already mentioned the
>>>> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
>>>> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
>>>> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.
>>>
>>> *Another* prang Gibbens? You sure do have a lot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>> And the clown caused it too, trying to be a smart arse.
>>
>> FWIW however, the above bullshit from Darren makes no sense. Darren
>> took off quickly and was hit up the rear? Say what?
>>
>
> I don't see a problem. the car braked suddenly and was hit in the rear
> by the car behind. but I avoid that possibility as much as possible by
> leaving plenty of room between my car and the one infront to allow for
> evasive action if necessary, and if I have to brake suddenly the first
> thing I do is look in the rear vision mirror.
>
>
Reread the above. It truly makes little sense.

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On 23/03/2022 4:14 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 23/3/22 12:14, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 23/03/2022 12:03 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 23/3/22 05:55, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:32:50 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip me me me
>>>>
>>>>> I already mentioned the
>>>>> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
>>>>> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
>>>>> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.
>>>>
>>>> *Another* prang Gibbens? You sure do have a lot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>> And the clown caused it too, trying to be a smart arse.
>>>
>>> FWIW however, the above bullshit from Darren makes no sense. Darren
>>> took off quickly and was hit up the rear? Say what?
>>>
>>
>> I don't see a problem. the car braked suddenly and was hit in the
>> rear by the car behind. but I avoid that possibility as much as
>> possible by leaving plenty of room between my car and the one infront
>> to allow for evasive action if necessary, and if I have to brake
>> suddenly the first thing I do is look in the rear vision mirror.
>>
>>
> Reread the above. It truly makes little sense.
>

what's wrong with it? he accelerated, the car braked, the car behind hit
him.  ??

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On 23/03/2022 9:47 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 23/3/2022 12:32 am, Noddy wrote:

>> It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's
>> a bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys
>> the crap out of the people behind you.
>>
>>
>>
> Several times when a car moved out of the lane in front of me the Kia
> dropped the trans down 2 gears and gave it full throttle but other times
> when the same thing happened it accelerated more gently.

Strange.

> I like the tech but its far from perfect so far.

It's got some way to go that's for sure, but it's improving all the time
and despite some of the foibles it's pretty impressive. I took a new
Ford Ranger 2 litre Bi turbo with the 10 speed auto for a drive the
other day and that's quite impressive. Has all the features of the Santa
Fe, but also has speed limit sign recognition and pops up a warning on
the dash if you're travelling over the posted limit. Also has remove
start via phone app which is kinda cool for a ute.

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On 23/3/22 17:09, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> I already mentioned the
> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.

What he did makes little sense. He accelerated - with a car in front of
him. IOW, Darren was at a high degree of fault. If he wants to do sneaky
little shit moves like that, then he needs to disable the car's system.
Same as disabling cruise control when it's wet or you're in heavy
traffic. If someone's trying to lane change, just let them. Why be an
aggro arsehole? Look what it leads to.

--
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On 23/03/2022 2:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 23/03/2022 9:47 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 23/3/2022 12:32 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's
>>> a bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys
>>> the crap out of the people behind you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Several times when a car moved out of the lane in front of me the Kia
>> dropped the trans down 2 gears and gave it full throttle but other
>> times when the same thing happened it accelerated more gently.
>
> Strange.
>
>> I like the tech but its far from perfect so far.
>
> It's got some way to go that's for sure, but it's improving all the time
> and despite some of the foibles it's pretty impressive. I took a new
> Ford Ranger 2 litre Bi turbo with the 10 speed auto for a drive the
> other day and that's quite impressive. Has all the features of the Santa
> Fe, but also has speed limit sign recognition and pops up a warning on
> the dash if you're travelling over the posted limit. Also has remove
> start via phone app which is kinda cool for a ute.
>
>

I'd rather have that in a drivers car, like an Audi, not some fucking
tradie ute.

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On 23/03/2022 5:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 23/03/2022 9:47 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 23/3/2022 12:32 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> It did it to me the other morning in the Avenue here in Bacchus. It's
>>> a bizarre quirk that no human would ever do, and it certainly annoys
>>> the crap out of the people behind you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Several times when a car moved out of the lane in front of me the Kia
>> dropped the trans down 2 gears and gave it full throttle but other
>> times when the same thing happened it accelerated more gently.
>
> Strange.
>
>> I like the tech but its far from perfect so far.
>
> It's got some way to go that's for sure, but it's improving all the time
> and despite some of the foibles it's pretty impressive. I took a new
> Ford Ranger 2 litre Bi turbo with the 10 speed auto for a drive the
> other day and that's quite impressive.

Mine's a tad over a year old, (done 12,000 klms, 14 months old...
normally wouldnt do 12k per year, but we did a quick trip to Narooma
while we could, and I've done a couple of extra trips to the block...
Going in for it's first "service" in 8 days time.) Still loving it. Only
gripe is all the alarms, and the auto on/off ignition. There is a
reasonable answer to that shit.. it's called "forscan". Google will show
it. Mate bought a Ranger with a tub 7 months ago, he's already wanting
to do it, and If I do the " forscan upgrade" with him, it's half price.
Black magic. Waiting till after "first" service is done, so they dont
reset it back to factory after i've paid for it... :-)

> Has all the features of the Santa
> Fe, but also has speed limit sign recognition and pops up a warning on
> the dash if you're travelling over the posted limit.

I think mine's set at 140kmh. I quickly got sick of all the alarms...:-)

> Also has remove start via phone app which is kinda cool for a ute.

"Remote", for the wannabe intelligentsia amongst us. Yep, it's a cool
add, but needs some work, like adjusting the air-con temp inside the
cabin, from inside the office at work... The ability to remotely raise
or lower windows without starting the engine... theres a few things it
could be better at.. which Forscan fixes.

The new Ranger looks awesome, with a 12" vertical screen, which could
be a distraction if the son downloads porn to it :-D Seems like they are
still doing a cab chassis model too. Supply may be an issue, but 3
months ago, my local dealer had 13 rangers in stock, whilst my neighbour
waits another 8 months for a dmax. LOL.
>
>

On 23/03/2022 8:02 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 23/03/2022 5:22 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> It's got some way to go that's for sure, but it's improving all the
>> time and despite some of the foibles it's pretty impressive. I took a
>> new Ford Ranger 2 litre Bi turbo with the 10 speed auto for a drive
>> the other day and that's quite impressive.
>
> Mine's a tad over a year old, (done 12,000 klms, 14 months old...
> normally wouldnt do 12k per year, but we did a quick trip to Narooma
> while we could, and I've done a couple of extra trips to the block...
> Going in for it's first "service" in 8 days time.) Still loving it. Only
> gripe  is all the alarms, and the auto on/off ignition. There is a
> reasonable answer to that shit.. it's called "forscan". Google will show
> it.

Forscan's been around for some time, and it's constantly in development.
Not that that's a bad thing.

> Mate bought a Ranger with a tub 7 months ago, he's already wanting
> to do it, and If I do the " forscan upgrade" with him, it's half price.
> Black magic. Waiting till after "first" service is done, so they dont
> reset it back to factory after i've paid for it... :-)

Lol :) And they will, too. Every time a vehicle goes in for a service
these days it gets an "update".

>> Has all the features of the Santa Fe, but also has speed limit sign
>> recognition and pops up a warning on the dash if you're travelling
>> over the posted limit.
>
> I think mine's set at 140kmh.  I quickly got sick of all the alarms...:-)

:)

>> Also has remove start via phone app which is kinda cool for a ute.
>
> "Remote", for the wannabe intelligentsia amongst us.  Yep, it's a cool
> add, but needs some work, like adjusting the air-con temp inside the
> cabin, from inside the office at work... The ability to remotely raise
> or lower windows without starting the engine... theres a few things it
> could be better at.. which Forscan fixes.

Nice.

>  The new Ranger looks awesome, with a 12" vertical screen, which could
> be a distraction if the son downloads porn to it :-D Seems like they are
> still doing a cab chassis model too. Supply may be an issue, but 3
> months ago, my local dealer had 13 rangers in stock, whilst my neighbour
> waits another 8 months for a dmax. LOL.

I was looking at the new Ranger online last night actually, and compared
to everything on the ute market at the moment it looks positively
futuristic. They're tipped to hit the market around the middle of the
year, and depending on price I expect they'll blow everything else out
of the water. I wouldn't mind holding off and seeing what they're like,
but it could also be a good time to buy a runnout bi-turbo XLT as well.

In other news, I looked at a new Toyota Hilux SR5, and was astonished to
learn that at 70 grand on the road for the dual cab tray back version it
doesn't even come with a reverse camera because Toyota found it all a
bit too difficult to make it work.

For fuck's sake......

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On 23/03/2022 6:04 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 23/3/22 17:09, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> I already mentioned the
>> one a few months ago in Southbank where I took off quickly to block a
>> lane jumper and it thought I was going to hit the car in front and
>> slammed on it's brakes causing the guy behind to run up my arse.
>
> What he did makes little sense. He accelerated - with a car in front
> of him. IOW, Darren was at a high degree of fault. If he wants to do
> sneaky little shit moves like that, then he needs to disable the car's
> system. Same as disabling cruise control when it's wet or you're in
> heavy traffic. If someone's trying to lane change, just let them. Why
> be an aggro arsehole? Look what it leads to.
>

I often see what other drivers want to do, and let them do it. but what
can I say, I'm a nice guy. :)

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 17:22:22 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> I took a new Ford Ranger 2 litre Bi turbo with the 10 speed auto for a drive the
> other day and that's quite impressive. Has all the features of the Santa
> Fe, but also has speed limit sign recognition and pops up a warning on
> the dash if you're travelling over the posted limit. Also has remove
> start via phone app which is kinda cool for a ute.

lol.

Sooo Fraudster, about all those "penis-substitute" sneers you've made about
my cars...

alvey
"10 speed auto"? What could possibly go wrong?

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 21:12:35 +1100, Noddy wrote:

>
> I was looking at the new Ranger online last night actually,

Actually Fraudster, given your (alleged) driving record the only things you
should be allowed to get around in are bicycles and Ubers. The damage you
could wreck in one of these hideous behemoths is pretty scary.

alvey

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