It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece in
Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.

The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
time for excess/waiver insurance.

From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.

In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
behind the curve.

So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
with?

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 12/12/2022 21:32, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece in
>Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.
>
>The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
>time for excess/waiver insurance.
>
> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>
>In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
>behind the curve.
>
>So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
>with?

Where in Greece?
--
Geoff
NTV 650

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, YTC#1 wrote:

> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
> with?

First call your own actual insurance company to see if the coverage on your daily car covers it in any way, and if not, if it can be extended.

Second, call your credit card companies to see if it's included with their bundle of benefits.

Then, I dunno...google? By the time I got to #2, I was sorted.

On 12/12/2022 20:48, geoffC wrote:
> On 12/12/2022 21:32, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>> It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece
>> in Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.
>>
>> The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
>> time for excess/waiver insurance.
>>
>> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>>
>> In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
>> behind the curve.
>>
>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to
>> go with?
>
> Where in Greece?

From the airport :-)

(Athens to Leonidio)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 12/12/2022 21:04, Ben Blaney wrote:
> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
>> with?
>
> First call your own actual insurance company to see if the coverage on your daily car covers it in any way, and if not, if it can be extended.
>

In the UK, unlikely.

> Second, call your credit card companies to see if it's included with their bundle of benefits.
Worth a shot
>
> Then, I dunno...google? By the time I got to #2, I was sorted.

The bit I was trying to avoid :-)

--
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"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
>> with?
>
> First call your own actual insurance company to see if the coverage on your daily car covers it in any way, and if not, if it can be extended.
>
> Second, call your credit card companies to see if it's included with their bundle of benefits.
>
> Then, I dunno...google? By the time I got to #2, I was sorted.

Amex does it for me. It's an opt-in program but it's a flat $20 per
rental which is quite reasonable in my view. Never claimed on it,
so it might be a nightmare scenario if I ever need to.

For some reason the Monty Python insurance sketch comes to mind.

--
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YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in news:tn834t$2a0k1$1@dont-email.me:

>
> It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece in
> Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.
>
> The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
> time for excess/waiver insurance.
>
> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>
> In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
> behind the curve.
>
> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
> with?
>

most insurance questions can be answered by asking MSE (Martin Lewis)
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-car-hire/#needtoknow-6

bought a few products clicking through the links on MSE and would do it
again. Insurance, ISP & mobile deals.

On 12/12/2022 23:03, wessie wrote:
> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in news:tn834t$2a0k1$1@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>> It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece in
>> Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.
>>
>> The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
>> time for excess/waiver insurance.
>>
>> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>>
>> In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
>> behind the curve.
>>
>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
>> with?
>>
>
> most insurance questions can be answered by asking MSE (Martin Lewis)
> https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-car-hire/#needtoknow-6
>

Yep, been having a gander at that. I'm just wary of cheap deals from
unknown brands.

Current baseline is the RAC £39.99 for 10 days

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 12/12/2022 21:57, Mark Olson wrote:
> Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
>>> with?
>>
>> First call your own actual insurance company to see if the coverage on your daily car covers it in any way, and if not, if it can be extended.
>>
>> Second, call your credit card companies to see if it's included with their bundle of benefits.
>>
>> Then, I dunno...google? By the time I got to #2, I was sorted.
>
> Amex does it for me. It's an opt-in program but it's a flat $20 per
> rental which is quite reasonable in my view. Never claimed on it,
> so it might be a nightmare scenario if I ever need to.

It looks like Mastercard (in some cases) do have cover, the catch is
that you need to pay for the full rental with it. So not an option when
using airmiles :-(

>
> For some reason the Monty Python insurance sketch comes to mind.
>

Not sure I remember that one.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 13/12/2022 09:23, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 12/12/2022 21:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>
>> For some reason the Monty Python insurance sketch comes to mind.
>
> Not sure I remember that one.

"You see, you unfortunately plumped for our 'Neverpay' policy, which,
you know, if you never claim is very worthwhile...but you had to claim,
and, well, there it is."

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 20:32:28 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece in
>Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.
>
>The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
>time for excess/waiver insurance.
>
> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>
>In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
>behind the curve.
>
>So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
>with?

We used Cover for You in 2019 for Crete and Insurance 4 Car Hire from
Swinton in September this year for Corsica. Didn't have to claim from
either, but they see reasonable enough.

https://www.coverforyou.com/
https://www.swinton.co.uk/ppc/i4ch/car-hire-excess-insurance

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

On 13/12/2022 09:36, Eddie wrote:
> On 13/12/2022 09:23, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 12/12/2022 21:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> For some reason the Monty Python insurance sketch comes to mind.
>>
>> Not sure I remember that one.
>
> "You see, you unfortunately plumped for our 'Neverpay' policy, which,
> you know, if you never claim is very worthwhile...but you had to claim,
> and, well, there it is."
>

Nope. Not come across that one.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 13/12/2022 09:49, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 20:32:28 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece in
>> Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.
>>
>> The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
>> time for excess/waiver insurance.
>>
>> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>>
>> In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
>> behind the curve.
>>
>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
>> with?
>
> We used Cover for You in 2019 for Crete and Insurance 4 Car Hire from
> Swinton in September this year for Corsica. Didn't have to claim from
> either, but they see reasonable enough.
>
> https://www.coverforyou.com/
> https://www.swinton.co.uk/ppc/i4ch/car-hire-excess-insurance

Used to use I4CH, last decade. They come it at £40, which I thought was
reasonable, but then I hat a look at Which
https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/car-hire/article/car-hire-advice/car-hire-insurance-aqd1p9P5n1Rs

And it it looks like a toss up between Eversure and Chewinsurance[1] who
come in at £20.

[1] Yeah, shite name .... puts me off.
>

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/12/2022 09:36, Eddie wrote:
>> On 13/12/2022 09:23, YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2022 21:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For some reason the Monty Python insurance sketch comes to mind.
>>>
>>> Not sure I remember that one.
>>
>> "You see, you unfortunately plumped for our 'Neverpay' policy, which,
>> you know, if you never claim is very worthwhile...but you had to claim,
>> and, well, there it is."
>>
>
> Nope. Not come across that one.

How's the nude lady?

--
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YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in
news:tn9g1o$2fsj1$1@dont-email.me:

>
>
> On 12/12/2022 23:03, wessie wrote:
>> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:tn834t$2a0k1$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>
>>> It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece
>>> in Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA
>>> airmiles.
>>>
>>> The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at
>>> booking time for excess/waiver insurance.
>>>
>>> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>>>
>>> In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
>>> behind the curve.
>>>
>>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to
>>> go with?
>>>
>>
>> most insurance questions can be answered by asking MSE (Martin Lewis)
>> https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-car-hire/#needtoknow-6
>>
>
> Yep, been having a gander at that. I'm just wary of cheap deals from
> unknown brands.
>
> Current baseline is the RAC £39.99 for 10 days
>

RAC - that bastion of superb customer service.

RAC Insurance is outsourced to another load of companies you have never
heard of (I put the >>>> in):

RAC Insurance is a trading name of RAC Financial Services Limited.
Registered in England and Wales No. 5171817. Registered office: RAC
House, Brockhurst Crescent, Walsall, WS5 4AW.

>>>>> Car Hire Excess Insurance is arranged and administered by Cover-
More Insurance Services Limited (Cover-More), a company registered in
England and Wales, Company No. 03088762 and underwritten by Newline
Insurance Company Limited. Newline Insurance Company Limited is
registered in England and Wales under company registration 04409827.
Registered office is 1 Fen Court, London, EC3M 5BN. Newline Insurance
Company Limited is authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and
regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential
Regulation Authority (Firm reference number 435028). You can visit the
Financial Conduct Authority website, which includes a register of all
regulated firms at www.fca.org.uk/register.

Newline is a Lloyds Syndicate

On 13/12/2022 17:41, wessie wrote:
> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in
> news:tn9g1o$2fsj1$1@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/2022 23:03, wessie wrote:
>>> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:tn834t$2a0k1$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece
>>>> in Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA
>>>> airmiles.
>>>>
>>>> The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at
>>>> booking time for excess/waiver insurance.
>>>>
>>>> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>>>>
>>>> In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
>>>> behind the curve.
>>>>
>>>> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to
>>>> go with?
>>>>
>>>
>>> most insurance questions can be answered by asking MSE (Martin Lewis)
>>> https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-car-hire/#needtoknow-6
>>>
>>
>> Yep, been having a gander at that. I'm just wary of cheap deals from
>> unknown brands.
>>
>> Current baseline is the RAC £39.99 for 10 days
>>
>
> RAC - that bastion of superb customer service.

It was only a baseline.
See later post.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

Colin Irvine wrote:
> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> >So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
> >with?
>
> We used Cover for You in 2019 for Crete and Insurance 4 Car Hire from
> Swinton in September this year for Corsica. Didn't have to claim from
> either, but they see reasonable enough.
>
> https://www.coverforyou.com/
> https://www.swinton.co.uk/ppc/i4ch/car-hire-excess-insurance

I've used Insurance4CarHire as well, though perhaps not the same one as it seems to be part of Carole Nash. Easy to set up, but didn't have to claim.

https://www.insurance4carhire.com/

ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bb3607b0-d052-4171-96fa-0f943bb01fe0n@googlegroups.com:

> Colin Irvine wrote:
>> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>> >So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to
>> >go with?
>>
>> We used Cover for You in 2019 for Crete and Insurance 4 Car Hire from
>> Swinton in September this year for Corsica. Didn't have to claim from
>> either, but they see reasonable enough.
>>
>> https://www.coverforyou.com/
>> https://www.swinton.co.uk/ppc/i4ch/car-hire-excess-insurance
>
> I've used Insurance4CarHire as well, though perhaps not the same one
> as it seems to be part of Carole Nash. Easy to set up, but didn't have
> to claim.
>
> https://www.insurance4carhire.com/
>

Swinton and CN are part of Ardonagh so just internal reorganisation
https://www.ardonagh.com/about-us/business-portfolio/ardonagh-retail/

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:08:03 PM UTC-5, ogden wrote:
>
> I've used Insurance4CarHire as well, though perhaps not the same one as it seems to be part of Carole Nash. Easy to set up, but didn't have to claim.
>
> https://www.insurance4carhire.com/

I saw this in a movie about a bus that had to speed around the city, keeping its speed over fifty, and if its speed dropped, the bus would explode! I think it was called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down."

On 14/12/2022 00:18, Ben Blaney wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:08:03 PM UTC-5, ogden wrote:
>>
>> I've used Insurance4CarHire as well, though perhaps not the same one as it seems to be part of Carole Nash. Easy to set up, but didn't have to claim.
>>
>> https://www.insurance4carhire.com/
>
> I saw this in a movie about a bus that had to speed around the city, keeping its speed over fifty, and if its speed dropped, the bus would explode! I think it was called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down."

I saw the Father Ted remake - which was much funnier...

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>
> It's been a long time since I rented a car, but we are off to Greece in
> Jan for a couple of weeks and have been using up all my BA airmiles.
>
> The car hire(Avis) is booked with airmiles, with no options at booking
> time for excess/waiver insurance.
>
> From memory it can be quite hefty at the hire desk.
>
> In the past I used to have an annual cover for such things, but am
> behind the curve.
>
> So before I start trawling the net, what is the current favourite to go
> with?
>

My only experience is with insurance4carhire.com and the claim process was
pretty painless. It took a few weeks but they paid out around £600 with no
quibble.

wessie wrote:

> RAC - that bastion of superb customer service.

" "

On 18/12/2022 12:18, Buzby wrote:
> wessie wrote:
>
>> RAC - that bastion of superb customer service.
>
> ""
>
Whom are you calling a bastion?

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.