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* The Right To Breed And *Not* To Breedcorella
+* SURE, IT WASN"T ME! (Blame my naughty fingers instead.)Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil
|`- SURE, IT WASN"T ME! (Blame my naughty fingers instead.)Daniel65
+* Sphinxcorella
|`- Sphinxcorella
+* It must be true ... if a habitual liar says so!Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil
|+- It must be true ... if a habitual liar says so!Fran
|`- It must be true ... if a habitual liar says so!Arindam Banerjee
+- The *Incompetence* A-TEAMÖrdög - the Newsgroup Devil
+* Growth Is It Good Or Is It Evilcorella
|`- Growth Is It Good Or Is It EvilRod Speed
+* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseOzix
|`* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseRod Speed
| `* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseDaniel65
|  `* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseRod Speed
|   `* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest risePetzl
|    `- self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseRod Speed
+- Too Many Mistakescorella
+- 12corella
+- Edvard_Grieg_-_Peer_Gynt_Suite_No.1._Morning_Mood._Pcorella
+* 909corella
|`- 909corella
+* virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindMrPostingRobot
|+- virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindRod Speed
|+- virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindArindam Banerjee
|`* virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindDaniel65
| `* virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindRod Speed
|  `- virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindDaniel65
+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardÖrdög - the Newsgroup Devil
|+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||| `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||     `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||      `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||       `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||        `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         | `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |     `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |      `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |       `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |        `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |         `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |          `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |           `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||          +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard* Ördög * - - the Petz Buster -
|||          |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||          | `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||          +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iWhataWonderfulWorld
|||          |`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||          `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           | `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           |  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           |   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           |    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           |     `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||            `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||| `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics imax headroom
||||  ||+- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  ||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics imax headroom
||||  ||| `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  ||`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  | `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |     `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |      `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |       `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |        `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |         `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |          `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |           `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |            `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |             `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardDaniel65
||||   +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
||||   |+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||   ||`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
||||   |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardDaniel65
||||   | `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
||||   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardTrevor Wilson
||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardTrevor Wilson
|+- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardArindam Banerjee
|`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardFran
+* PHON fielding quantum candidates who don't even live in same stateOzix
+* Dan Andrews grilled by IBAC againNomen Nescio
`* 'Babbling moron' Kamala Harris shouldn't be a 'heartbeat away' from the presidenbuh buh biden

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Farewell Scotty!

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Subject: Farewell Scotty!
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 by: ~Ördög~ - Sun, 22 May 2022 05:54 UTC

*A tribute to Scott Morrison*
/The Chaser/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lCinjOhcro>
~~~
In memoriam of a totally failed PM-ship!
(AKA good riddance)

Onto Scotties next amazing endeavour using golden parachutes somewhere
with little to no effort but with very lucrative enumeration?

--
Ördög - - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

Want to see the most spiteful nasties of Australian politics?
Here I show you:

Just look no farther than the Liberal Party of Australia and its dumb
coalition partner:

This is their fundamental ideology (if one can call it that):
Capitalist neo-liberal/libertarian LNP lies and alternate reality,
Lack of LNP compassion for the already downtrodden,
Sociopathic LNP greed & envy,
LNP endemic nepotistic and plutocratic corruption,
Vicious LNP hunger for power and "born to rule mentality",
Xtian LNP fundamentalism Never ending misogyny & homophobia within LNP
Undeniable Anglo-Celtic racism and supremacy of LNP politicians,
Unbridled hate for the underclasses amongst LNP personalities,
Unrelenting vengeance seeking against political opponents of LNP...

Re: election results, a lot to digest

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From: pet...@gmail.com (Petzl)
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 by: Petzl - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:09 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 14:19:30 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 22/05/2022 9:13 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 9:09 am, Petzl wrote:
>
>>> Albanese will be backstabbed shortly (before Christmas) by freak
>>> animal Penny Wong, or a similar farm animal.
>
Head of Dumb 3 idiocy
>
>Jesus wept. Wong is in the Senate yu booby!
>>
So was "Prime Minister John Gorton"
>
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.

Re: Scummo is gone

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 by: Petzl - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:10 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 14:24:59 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 22/05/2022 11:33 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 9:15 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 07:07:32 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How good is that?
>>>>
>>> And Penny Wong replaced him.
>
>No, she's a Senator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> **I wish. Penny Wong would make an excellent PM.
>
>Except she's in the Senate.........
>>
So was "Prime Minister John Gorton"
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

Re: vote

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 by: Fran - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:40 UTC

On 22/05/2022 3:04 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what
>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>
>>>> Cite?   I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no longer.
>>>
>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>
>>
>> Thanks. Suicide also used to be illegal. Dumb to make either of
>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>>
>
> What was the penalty for Suicide ?

Dunno, IIRC correctly, it was considered to be self murder and even
murdering ones self was deemed to be unacceptable.
>
> I take it not the death penalty

:-))

Re: -- Political nutjobs

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:58 UTC

dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote

>>>>> My reasonable conclusion was a "proposition of power which is
>>>>> asserted by a larger population having a prevalence of a sexual
>>>>> disease"

>>>> Try that again in english, even google translate doesnt do
>>>> gobbledegook yet.

>>> Which word beyond "is" was too difficult for you?

>> The entire sentence is a steaming meaningless turd.

> Me thinks that you also have a "Let them eat cake" attitude

Not a schred of evidence that you are actually
capable of rational thought, or even being able
to bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

> which means "shows insensitivity to or incomprehensionof the realities
> of life for the unfortunate."

More of your utterly mindless bullshit.

> A bourgeois mindset relative to the impoverished

More of your utterly mindless bullshit.

(ie. sexual promiscuity

That has nothing to do with the impoverished and
in fact those that fuck like rabbits like Randy Andy
are nothing even remotely like the impoverished.

> and sexual disease was more likely the product of being poor)

Or being able to pay for prostitutes or
having servants available to be fucked.

> larger population...

In Ireland the larger population was actually the
RESULT of fucking like rabbits. In Africa too.

>>>>> is a natural intuition drawn from the historical context itself.
>>
>>>> Ditto.
>>
>>>>> Which then doesn't need a coerced justification of gender based
>>>>> political
>>>>> diatribe.
>>
>>>> You wouldn't know what a gender based political diatribe was if it
>>>> bit you on your lard arse.
>>
>>>>> It's much like asking if Boris was teleported to 18 century London
>>>>> would he
>>>>> have girded loins and be of sound mind since he has a "Let them eat
>>>>> cake"
>>>>> attitude...
>>
>>>> Bullshit he has.
>>
>>> I cannot ignore this wilful stupidity since here is evidence that
>>> Boris has a "Let them eat cake" attitude:
>> Bullshit he has.
>>
>>> "Prime Minister Boris Johnson pictured holding up a birthday cake as
>>> he visits Bovingdon Primary Academy in Hertfordshire, a few hours
>>> before he received another cake back in London"
>>>
>>> <https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/15D22/production/_122987398_50022889771_54db72f28e_c.jpg>
>>> ACTUAL NEWS ARTICLE:
>>>
>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60121572>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>
>>>>> YOUTUBE: "Let Them Eat Cake - The Pox"
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://youtu.be/5yWJKi0UOwQ>
>>
>>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't need to reply further because you ignored the historical
>>>>>>> context of
>>>>>>> a Syphilis pandemic would obviously have such a reasoned cause as
>>>>>>> probably known to Freud ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I won't pander to your narcissistic self justification--you
>>>>>>> were in
>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I posited that the "Victorian sexual morality" was a response to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> historical reality that reasonably some 60 - 80% of Londoners
>>>>>>> within the
>>>>>>> 18th century might have a sexually transmitted disease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And we know from Captain Cook's travel diaries that there wasn't
>>>>>> sufficient
>>>>>> medical supplies on the ship to treat the rampant sexual diseases
>>>>>> amongst
>>>>>> the sailors and throughout the pacific islands who prostituted even
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> wives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was the basis of my claim a "vagina with teeth" is a
>>>>>>> proposition of
>>>>>>> power which is asserted by a larger population having a prevalence
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> disease
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Surely Sigmund Freud was a student of history
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It might be more correct to suggest that the VICTORIAN(20 June
>>>>>>>>> 1837 –
>>>>>>>>> 22 Jan 1901) era attitudes are a responseto the sexual disease
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> deprivations of the age prior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not really. Just read
>>>>>>>> Lock, Joan. Scotland Yard Casebook (p. 204). Lume Books.
>>>>>>>> Interesting that quite a few of the toffs were into quite
>>>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>>> whipping and torturing children in organised events. Hard
>>>>>>>> to see that that could be due to the sexual disease and
>>>>>>>> deprivations of the age prior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If one in five persons within London had Syphilis and a far
>>>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>>>> number had gonorrhea or chlamydia then it is reasonable to
>>>>>>>>> concludethat
>>>>>>>>> between 3 / 5th (60%) to 4 / 5th (80%) percent of the population
>>>>>>>>> possessed a long term venereal disease and such professional
>>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>>> would no doubt have permeated amongst the intelligentsia as to
>>>>>>>>> view a
>>>>>>>>> "more rigorous form of Victorian sexual morality than England"
>>>>>>>>> as being
>>>>>>>>> prudent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reality is that Victorian sexual morality
>>>>>>>> was much more just a fascade than reality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Freud lived and worked in Vienna, having set up his clinical
>>>>>>>>> practice
>>>>>>>>> there in 1886. In 1938, Freud left Austria to escape Nazi
>>>>>>>>> persecution.
>>>>>>>>> He died in exile in the United Kingdom in 1939--It is not for me
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> extrapolate or research whether his association with the UK was
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> 1938 entirely non-existent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But it is clear from his biographys that before 1938 entirely
>>>>>>>> non-existent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> His Five Lectures on Psychoanalysis and Civilization and its
>>>>>>>>> Discontents
>>>>>>>>> belong to two distinct phases of Freud’s thought—a thought which
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> always changing, expanding, and being revised , and which has as
>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>> discontinuities as continuities. Both texts rest written from
>>>>>>>>> Freud’s
>>>>>>>>> basic psychoanalytic perspective; each reflects the general
>>>>>>>>> *historical*, philosophical, and scientific movements in which
>>>>>>>>> Freud
>>>>>>>>> found himself when he developed psychoanalysis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Freud’s Austria of the second half of the nineteenth century was
>>>>>>>>> characterized by an even more rigorous form of Victorian sexual
>>>>>>>>> morality
>>>>>>>>> than England, whose sexual delicacy and frigidity is often
>>>>>>>>> caricatured.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even that isn't clear at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This rigorous sexual morality did not, however,prevent
>>>>>>>>> Victorians from
>>>>>>>>> speaking about sexuality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And doing it with children in spades.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The large, urban, professional middle class—the bourgeoisie—had
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> intense moral preoccupation with sexuality, particularly in
>>>>>>>>> women and
>>>>>>>>> children. Their sexual interests, and sexual knowledge, were
>>>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>>> to be naturally limited; however, in the case of exceptions, this
>>>>>>>>> interest and knowledge were carefully regulated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Young women were expected to be chaste before marriage;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing unusual about that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and the private sexual experimentation of children and
>>>>>>>>> adolescents—for
>>>>>>>>> example, masturbation—were assiduously suppressed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thats bullshit with the dregs of their society.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Additionally, a *growing* *knowledge* *of* *sexual* *diseases*,
>>>>>>>>> *like*
>>>>>>>>> *syphilis*, created, in the public mind, an association between
>>>>>>>>> *sexual*
>>>>>>>>> *promiscuity* *and* *catastrophic* *epidemics*. Sexuality not
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> needed to be regulatedby personal morality, or by the vigilance
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> family, but, since it could affect entire populations, was a
>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>> and social concern.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the reality is that raping of children and servants was rife.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At the same time the nascent field of sexology was developing. A
>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>> of medical researchers, like Havelock Ellis and Richard von
>>>>>>>>> Krafft-Ebing—whom Feud knew and who publicly commented on one of
>>>>>>>>> Freud’s
>>>>>>>>> earliest papers—gave detailed and meticulous accounts of the
>>>>>>>>> forms and
>>>>>>>>> varieties of sexual behaviors and identities, regardless of
>>>>>>>>> their rarity
>>>>>>>>> or apparent perversity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And with Ellis, showed that it was nothing even remotely like
>>>>>>>> rare.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They also tried to connect facts about sexuality to other facts,
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> had no self-evident relationship to sexuality; they asked, for
>>>>>>>>> example,
>>>>>>>>> how sexuality relates to class,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was well known that the dregs fucked like rabbits and
>>>>>>>> that abortion was rife.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or how sexuality relates to criminality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thats more complicated given that what was illegal changed so
>>>>>>>> much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The late nineteenth century was, therefore, characterized by an
>>>>>>>>> interesting constellation of trends: a personal, familial, and
>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>> regulation of sexuality, on the one hand, and a proliferation of
>>>>>>>>> scientific writing which showed how that problematic sexuality
>>>>>>>>> nevertheless had a secure and extensive place in human nature,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Corse it did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> on the other hand. This constellation served as an auspicious
>>>>>>>>> context
>>>>>>>>> for Freud to develop his theories. Freud described how all kinds
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> unusual, or “perverse,” sexual desires dominate the mind—in
>>>>>>>>> children, in
>>>>>>>>> neurotic adults, but also in normal adults. Freud also showed
>>>>>>>>> how the
>>>>>>>>> mind finds itself in an irrevocable conflict with its own
>>>>>>>>> sexuality: how
>>>>>>>>> it fears its sexuality, and tries to avoid and eliminate it, or,
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> importantly, how it tries to forget it, or remove it from
>>>>>>>>> conscious
>>>>>>>>> awareness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thats silly with the dregs of society that just got on with
>>>>>>>> fucking like
>>>>>>>> rabbits.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For Freud, this meant that unusual, “perverse” sexuality had a
>>>>>>>>> peculiar
>>>>>>>>> fate. Regulated by morality, removed from conscious awareness,
>>>>>>>>> but still
>>>>>>>>> very much extant, it became “unconscious”: no longer under the
>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>> of a person’s self-conscious and voluntary choices, it
>>>>>>>>> manifested in a
>>>>>>>>> person’s involuntary actions, like mistakes and slips of the
>>>>>>>>> tongues, as
>>>>>>>>> well as in mental pathologies, like obsession, paranoia,
>>>>>>>>> hysteria, and
>>>>>>>>> anxiety.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is all just another mindless wank.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.college.columbia.edu/core/content/writings-sigmund-freud/context>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>


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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:59 UTC

In Sun, 22 May 2022 15:45:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 22/05/2022 3:04 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
>> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what
>>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cite? I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no longer.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. Suicide also used to be illegal. Dumb to make either of
>>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>>>
>> What was the penalty for Suicide ?
>> I take it not the death penalty

> Since religion pervaded our society back then, probably eternal
> damnation, or something similarly daft.

That isn't even possible for a govt to impose, stupid.

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On Sun, 22 May 2022 16:40:29 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:

> On 22/05/2022 3:04 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
>> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what
>>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cite?  I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no longer..
>>>>
>>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. Suicide also used to be illegal. Dumb to make either of
>>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>>>
>> What was the penalty for Suicide ?
>
> Dunno, IIRC correctly, it was considered to be self murder

Nope.

> and even murdering ones self was deemed to be unacceptable.

>> I take it not the death penalty
>
> :-))

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On Sun, 22 May 2022 14:16:11 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:

> On 22/05/2022 7:48 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 7:21 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 06:42:38 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:27 am, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 06:17:59 +1000, Fran
>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 9:42 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> Disappointing how many votes Hanson got, Palmer failed to get the
>>>>>>> RWNJ vote. Early counting has a large swing to ALP in the west,
>>>>>>> seems COVID was an issue there but not elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think Covid was an huge issue in WA. I think it was the
>>>>>> support
>>>>>> the govt gave to the Palmer legal challenge. THAT would have really
>>>>>> pissed off the Westies.
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> Libs lost badly in Victoria, it seems the world's longest lockdown
>>>>>> wasn't something that they couldn't take advantage of. Teals have
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> pretty good, but knocked out moderate Liberals. I can see the
>>>>>> religious-right faction of coalition spinning this as people not
>>>>>> wanting
>>>>>> left-leaning policies. God knows what the senate will look like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The pervading blokinesss of the whole campaign got the Libs in deep
>>>>>> doodoo. They pissed off and took for granted women voters (and
>>>>>> especially moderate ones) and that got them the result they
>>>>>> deserved.
>>>>>> You've seen the sort of comments made here by the LNP troll, the
>>>>>> pretzel
>>>>>> and Roddles. They are fairly typical of the sort of mentality that
>>>>>> pervaded the LNP and that results in turning long time LNP voters to
>>>>>> support the teals in socially progressive electorates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one place where they might still do OK is Gilmore. Constance has
>>>>>> shown he's got the ability to learn from bitter experiences, to
>>>>>> admit
>>>>>> that he has vulnerabilities and to show support and understanding
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> experiences of voters in his electorate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was delighted to see that Bridget Archer got up (no thanks to
>>>>>> Morrison
>>>>>> there!) and the Keneally went down (YAY!) and the Dai Le got up.
>>>>>> Cancerned aobut JOsh though. Now we're gunna get Dutton as
>>>>>> Opposition
>>>>>> leader no doubt.... The LNP will be out of govt for more than one
>>>>>> term
>>>>>> onthe basis of this result.
>>>>> In your opinion Fran has OZ gone more to the left or right with
>>>>> this round of voting?
>
> IMO, back towards the centre. Oz is never to comfortabl with extremes
> anfd we've been off to the right over the pst decade.

Almost all federal Labor govts have in fact been off to the right.

>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **It seems abundantly clear to me that Australians have voted that
>>>> they want a government to reflect the majority view. IOW: Right down
>>>> the middle. Neither far left, nor far right.
>
> Yep
>
>>>> How the Libs will manage with that Nazi, Dutton, in charge, is
>>>> anyone's guess.

> It'll send the Libs into the wilderness if he's incapable of chance.

No chance, like you said, we aren't that extreme.

> i personally thik Dutton is as cunning a an outhouse rat

Not cunning enough to be able to grab a very safe seat.

> and woulnd't be at all surprised to see a cnversio from him.

>>> It remains to be seen if he is in charge given how marginal his win is
>>> likely to be.
>> **I'm torn on this one. With Dutton as leader, the Libs are fucked.
>
> Yep.
>
> So,
>> a good thing. If the Libs regain a sudden rush of common sense, they'll
>> elect a moderate, rather than a Nazi.
>
> Yep. But they need to rebuild from the ground up.

No party ever does anything like that.

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On Sun, 22 May 2022 16:09:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 22 May 2022 14:19:30 +1000, Fran
> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 22/05/2022 9:13 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 9:09 am, Petzl wrote:
>>
>>>> Albanese will be backstabbed shortly (before Christmas) by freak
>>>> animal Penny Wong, or a similar farm animal.
>>
> Head of Dumb 3 idiocy
>>
>> Jesus wept. Wong is in the Senate yu booby!
>>>
> So was "Prime Minister John Gorton"

Only for a short time and then moved to the HoR.

Wong could do the same thing, but won't be able to
due to the new Labor rules.

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On 22/05/2022 4:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> In Sun, 22 May 2022 15:45:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 22/05/2022 3:04 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
>>> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what
>>>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cite?   I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.  Suicide also used to be illegal.  Dumb to make either of
>>>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>>>>
>>>  What was the penalty for Suicide ?
>>>  I take it not the death penalty
>
>> Since religion pervaded our society back then, probably eternal
>> damnation, or something similarly daft.
>
> That isn't even possible for a govt to impose, stupid.

How do you know? Maybe the PM can pray to God to make it happen?

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 May 2022 09:05 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 18:58:59 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 22/05/2022 4:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> In Sun, 22 May 2022 15:45:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/05/2022 3:04 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
>>>> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what
>>>>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cite? I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. Suicide also used to be illegal. Dumb to make either of
>>>>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>>>>>
>>>> What was the penalty for Suicide ?
>>>> I take it not the death penalty
>>
>>> Since religion pervaded our society back then, probably eternal
>>> damnation, or something similarly daft.

>> That isn't even possible for a govt to impose, stupid.

> How do you know?

That is pathetic even for you.

> Maybe the PM can pray to God to make it happen?

There is no god, fuckwit child.

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 by: Max - Sun, 22 May 2022 10:00 UTC

On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2022 18:58:59 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>> On 22/05/2022 4:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> In Sun, 22 May 2022 15:45:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/05/2022 3:04 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
>>>>> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what
>>>>>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cite?   I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>>>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no longer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.  Suicide also used to be illegal.  Dumb to make either of
>>>>>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  What was the penalty for Suicide ?
>>>>>  I take it not the death penalty
>>>
>>>> Since religion pervaded our society back then, probably eternal
>>>> damnation, or something similarly daft.
>
>>>  That isn't even possible for a govt to impose, stupid.
>
>> How do you know?
>
> That is pathetic even for you.
>
>> Maybe the PM can pray to God to make it happen?
>
> There is no god, fuckwit child.

You're going to feel pretty stupid when you are burning in the fires of
hell.

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 22 May 2022 10:44 UTC

~Ördög~ wrote on 21/5/22 1:21 pm:
> Daniel65 posted:
>
> /Snip all retarded septic Yank and/or hard-right poster inputs./
>
>> Your definition of the word 'reams' needs working on!! One line
>> containing six words would not meet what most people would
>> consider 'reams'!!
>
> Please don't corrupt with logic Rod Speed's single track robotic
> brain. It has not been programmed with reply flexibility in mind. I
> guess, my old broken record player that I still haven't thrown into
> the bin for sentimental reasons has a larger scale of output options
> than Rod's Alzheimer and LNP rightardation blinkered deranged brain.

Sorry! I'll try to improve my posting attitude!! ;-P
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:48 UTC

Fran wrote on 22/5/22 5:58 am:
> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>
>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are
>>>> the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>
>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>
>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>
> Cite?   I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but couldn't
> be bothered to find out for sure.

It's only required that YOU turn up and get your name marked off!!

If you wanted to, you could leave your Ballot papers sitting on the
table where you just had your name marked off, or you could throw the
ballot papers in the rubbish bin, or you could give them to someone
standing in the queue outside!!

In each case, the Polling Place staff might have words with you, but so
what!!

> so if it could be proven, the person could get in trouble.
>--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:54 UTC

Whatawonderfulworld wrote on 22/5/22 3:04 pm:
> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what
>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>
>>>> Cite?   I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>
>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no longer.
>>>
>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>
>>
>> Thanks. Suicide also used to be illegal. Dumb to make either of
>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>
> What was the penalty for Suicide ?

Umm!! Wouldn't that be DEATH??

Or did you mean "What was the penalty for *ATTEMPTED* Suicide ?
>
> I take it not the death penalty
>
Would that, sort of, be "Poetic Justice"??
--
Daniel

Re: Aussie COVID-cowards take own pencils to voting booths!!!!

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 22 May 2022 13:00 UTC

Fran wrote on 21/5/22 11:38 am:
> On 21/05/2022 10:28 am, Leroy N. Sotero wrote:
>> I am surprised they even come out of lockdown.
>> Stop living in fear!
>
> Cite?
>
> I call Bullshit on your claim.

I'd back your 'Bullshit' claim, Fran!!

At the Polling Place I worked at, the AEC supplied pencils and pens ....
which were taken from a box marked 'clean' and deposited in a box marked
'Used' prior to being sanitised after each use and returned to the box
marked 'clean'!!
--
Daniel

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*** ALP only got 1/3 of primery vote!
@@@ NO MANDATE IS POSSIBLE!
All decent folk must swarm Canberra to protest Albo being
sworn in!
If you surrender this time, your children will ask
why.
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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 May 2022 15:58 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 20:00:15 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 18:58:59 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/05/2022 4:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> In Sun, 22 May 2022 15:45:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/05/2022 3:04 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
>>>>>> Fran
>>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>>> wrote in news:t6ce1p$fb6$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/05/2022 1:51 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/05/2022 5:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 1:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/05/2022 12:18 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> are the chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is still an offence to vote informally,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cite? I'm pretty certain you are wrong about that claim but
>>>>>>>>> couldn't be bothered to find out for sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are right. Informal voting used to be illegal, but is no
>>>>>>>> longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/human-rights/voting-and-the-law/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks. Suicide also used to be illegal. Dumb to make either of
>>>>>>> those things 'illegal' IMO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What was the penalty for Suicide ?
>>>>>> I take it not the death penalty
>>>>
>>>>> Since religion pervaded our society back then, probably eternal
>>>>> damnation, or something similarly daft.
>>
>>>> That isn't even possible for a govt to impose, stupid.
>>
>>> How do you know?
>> That is pathetic even for you.
>>
>>> Maybe the PM can pray to God to make it happen?

>> There is no god, fuckwit child.

> You're going to feel pretty stupid when you are burning in the fires of
> hell.

There is no hell, just a mind fuck that only fools
like you believe in dreamed up by child molesters.

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 by: Mattb - Sun, 22 May 2022 16:13 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 06:42:38 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 22/05/2022 6:27 am, Mattb wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 06:17:59 +1000, Fran
>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/05/2022 9:42 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>>> Disappointing how many votes Hanson got, Palmer failed to get the RWNJ vote. Early counting has a large swing to ALP in the west, seems COVID was an issue there but not elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I don't think Covid was an huge issue in WA. I think it was the support
>>> the govt gave to the Palmer legal challenge. THAT would have really
>>> pissed off the Westies.
>>> .
>>> Libs lost badly in Victoria, it seems the world's longest lockdown
>>> wasn't something that they couldn't take advantage of. Teals have done
>>> pretty good, but knocked out moderate Liberals. I can see the
>>> religious-right faction of coalition spinning this as people not wanting
>>> left-leaning policies. God knows what the senate will look like.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The pervading blokinesss of the whole campaign got the Libs in deep
>>> doodoo. They pissed off and took for granted women voters (and
>>> especially moderate ones) and that got them the result they deserved.
>>> You've seen the sort of comments made here by the LNP troll, the pretzel
>>> and Roddles. They are fairly typical of the sort of mentality that
>>> pervaded the LNP and that results in turning long time LNP voters to
>>> support the teals in socially progressive electorates.
>>>
>>> The one place where they might still do OK is Gilmore. Constance has
>>> shown he's got the ability to learn from bitter experiences, to admit
>>> that he has vulnerabilities and to show support and understanding of the
>>> experiences of voters in his electorate.
>>>
>>> I was delighted to see that Bridget Archer got up (no thanks to Morrison
>>> there!) and the Keneally went down (YAY!) and the Dai Le got up.
>>> Cancerned aobut JOsh though. Now we're gunna get Dutton as Opposition
>>> leader no doubt.... The LNP will be out of govt for more than one term
>>> onthe basis of this result.
>>
>> In your opinion Fran has OZ gone more to the left or right with
>> this round of voting?
>>
>>
>
>**It seems abundantly clear to me that Australians have voted that they
>want a government to reflect the majority view. IOW: Right down the
>middle. Neither far left, nor far right.

I wish the USA would vote for a more moderate representation. Biden
claimed he was moderate, but it turned out he was very far left. We
have become like Venezuela in some ways. Can't even keep products on
the store shelf and prices going up daily
>
>How the Libs will manage with that Nazi, Dutton, in charge, is anyone's
>guess.

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 by: Petzl - Sun, 22 May 2022 21:39 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 09:13:11 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>
>>**It seems abundantly clear to me that Australians have voted that they
>>want a government to reflect the majority view. IOW: Right down the
>>middle. Neither far left, nor far right.
>
> I wish the USA would vote for a more moderate representation. Biden
>claimed he was moderate, but it turned out he was very far left. We
>have become like Venezuela in some ways. Can't even keep products on
>the store shelf and prices going up daily
>>
>>How the Libs will manage with that Nazi, Dutton, in charge, is anyone's
>>guess.
>
Australia will find out which direction PM Anthony Albanese will take
the Nation, if he can take it anywhere, Labor for a long time have
been a indecisive, squabble.
The ones they are replacing were the same.
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 May 2022 21:59 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>> It seems abundantly clear to me that Australians have voted that they
>>> want a government to reflect the majority view. IOW: Right down the
>>> middle. Neither far left, nor far right.

>> I wish the USA would vote for a more moderate representation. Biden
>> claimed he was moderate, but it turned out he was very far left. We
>> have become like Venezuela in some ways. Can't even keep products on
>> the store shelf and prices going up daily

>>> How the Libs will manage with that Nazi, Dutton, in charge, is anyone's
>>> guess.

> Australia will find out which direction PMAnthony Albanese will take
> the Nation,

No PM really ever takes the country anywhere,
they basically just react to events.

> if he can take it anywhere,

We survived the dud and Juliar and will survive Albo too.

It will be interesting to see if he is actually silly enough
to spend anything on the Newcastle VFT or if it was just
smoke and mirrors and won't actually happen.

> Labor for a long time have been a indecisive, squabble.

That is one thing Albo did manage, no real squabbling
at all while he was driving the opposition bus. He does
appear to be pandering to the climate change fools but
with any luck it will just be zero emission targets which
he won't still be PM to have to admit they have failed.

> The ones they are replacing were the same.

ScoMo was very decisive about the action on covid very early on.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sun, 22 May 2022 22:18 UTC

On 22/05/2022 2:19 pm, Fran wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 9:13 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 9:09 am, Petzl wrote:
>
>>> Albanese will be backstabbed shortly (before Christmas) by freak
>>> animal Penny Wong, or a similar farm animal.
>
> Jesus wept.  Wong is in the Senate yu booby!
>>
>> **Not a snowball's chance in Hell. For two reasons:
>>
>> 1) Labor will give Albo a chance to work in what is likely to be a
>> minority government.
>> 2) Labor has itself structured such that leaders being stabbed in the
>> back is extremely unlikely.
>
> And, c) Wong is in the Senate.
>>
>> That said, we can only hope that Penny Wong is leader at the next
>> election. She is smart, talented and would make a formidable leader.
>
> SHE'S A SENATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> PMs are members of the Reps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

**All true, but not insurmountable.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 May 2022 22:42 UTC

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Fran wrote
>> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>> Petzl wrote

>>>> Albanese will be backstabbed shortly (before Christmas) by freak
>>>> animal Penny Wong, or a similar farm animal.
>> Jesus wept. Wong is in the Senate yu booby!
>>>
>>> **Not a snowball's chance in Hell. For two reasons:
>>>
>>> 1) Labor will give Albo a chance to work in what is likely to be a
>>> minority government.
>>> 2) Labor has itself structured such that leaders being stabbed in the
>>> back is extremely unlikely.
>> And, c) Wong is in the Senate.
>>>
>>> That said, we can only hope that Penny Wong is leader at the next
>>> election. She is smart, talented and would make a formidable leader.
>> SHE'S A SENATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> PMs are members of the Reps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>
> **All true, but not insurmountable.

But the change in Labor rules and the fact that Albo did win are
insurmountable for her.

They would have to be very desperate to let her politically assassinate
Albo now.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 May 2022 22:44 UTC

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Fran wrote
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>>> Petzl wrote
>
>>>>> Albanese will be backstabbed shortly (before Christmas) by freak
>>>>> animal Penny Wong, or a similar farm animal.
>>> Jesus wept. Wong is in the Senate yu booby!
>>>>
>>>> **Not a snowball's chance in Hell. For two reasons:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Labor will give Albo a chance to work in what is likely to be a
>>>> minority government.
>>>> 2) Labor has itself structured such that leaders being stabbed in the
>>>> back is extremely unlikely.
>>> And, c) Wong is in the Senate.
>>>>
>>>> That said, we can only hope that Penny Wong is leader at the next
>>>> election. She is smart, talented and would make a formidable leader.
>>> SHE'S A SENATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> PMs are members of the Reps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> All true, but not insurmountable.

> But the change in Labor rules and the fact that Albo did win are
> insurmountable for her.

> They would have to be very desperate to let her politically assassinate
> Albo now.

Her only hope is that Albo drops dead or is caught fucking little children
or something like that.

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 by: Petzl - Sun, 22 May 2022 23:01 UTC

On Mon, 23 May 2022 08:44:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Fran wrote
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>
>>>>>> Albanese will be backstabbed shortly (before Christmas) by freak
>>>>>> animal Penny Wong, or a similar farm animal.
>>>> Jesus wept. Wong is in the Senate yu booby!
>>>>>
>>>>> **Not a snowball's chance in Hell. For two reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Labor will give Albo a chance to work in what is likely to be a
>>>>> minority government.
>>>>> 2) Labor has itself structured such that leaders being stabbed in the
>>>>> back is extremely unlikely.
>>>> And, c) Wong is in the Senate.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, we can only hope that Penny Wong is leader at the next
>>>>> election. She is smart, talented and would make a formidable leader.
>>>> SHE'S A SENATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>> PMs are members of the Reps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>>> All true, but not insurmountable.
>
>> But the change in Labor rules and the fact that Albo did win are
>> insurmountable for her.
>
>> They would have to be very desperate to let her politically assassinate
>> Albo now.
>
>Her only hope is that Albo drops dead or is caught fucking little children
>or something like that.
>
He might even eat some of Penny Wong's bat soup?
The Clinton's seem to find strange deaths of people that were a threat
to them helped.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count>
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a Celestial ball of
fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply coincidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a complex yet
inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations (mutations make animals sick and die)?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful the universe would collapse into
a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!
Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the strong force wasn't
1% life wouldn't exist!

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