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* Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unitSH
+* Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unitWoody
|`- Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unitnotya...@gmail.com
`* Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unitJava Jive
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Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unit

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 by: SH - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:43 UTC

On 04/08/2018 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
>
> I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)

Hoo - ah - Way

4G E5776 MiFi unit
> that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
>
> It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
> choosing a suitable aerial?
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Tim
>

Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unit

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From: harroga...@ntlworld.com (Woody)
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Subject: Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unit
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 by: Woody - Sun, 20 Aug 2023 07:01 UTC

On Sat 19/08/2023 10:43, SH wrote:
> On 04/08/2018 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
>>
>> I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
>
> Hoo - ah - Way
>
> 4G E5776 MiFi unit
>> that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
>>
>> It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
>> choosing a suitable aerial?
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>

Pronounced wah-way

I would say suck it and see to start with as they are often much more
sensitive than you might expect.
Also choose the 'right' SP as there may be a better signal from a
different provider than you think.

The aerial connector is TS9 - look at the Solwise web site.

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 by: Java Jive - Sun, 20 Aug 2023 14:18 UTC

On 19/08/2023 10:43, SH wrote:
> On 04/08/2018 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
>>
>> I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
>
> Hoo - ah - Way
>
>> 4G E5776 MiFi unit
>> that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
>>
>> It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
>> choosing a suitable aerial?

Yes, different mfrs seem to have very similar looking but slightly
different sized aerial connections, and if you try to connect an aerial
with the wrong type you may damage both connectors. Make sure you order
aerials with the correct type for your unit. Hopefully it will say
somewhere in its specifications what connector are used.

And, just to spice things up a little more, any given connector type can
have different names!

I know that I've posted about the above a year or two back, but cannot
now find my original post describing the differences in connectors.

>> Any recommendations?

Be absolutely certain that you have the correct connector on the aerial,
and, although a certain pressure is required to snap the connectors
together, do not use excessive force. If excessive force seems to be
required, you may have got the wrong connector.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: notya...@gmail.com - Sun, 20 Aug 2023 15:56 UTC

On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 08:01:15 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
> On Sat 19/08/2023 10:43, SH wrote:
> > On 04/08/2018 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
> >
> > Hoo - ah - Way

Howay [the lads!] - best to lubricate the vocal cords with several pints of Newcastle Brown Ale first. Here is an exponent: -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjAoCevsj3k

> >
> > 4G E5776 MiFi unit
> >> that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
> >>
> >> It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
> >> choosing a suitable aerial?
> >>
> >> Any recommendations?
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >
> Pronounced wah-way
>
> I would say suck it and see to start with as they are often much more
> sensitive than you might expect.
> Also choose the 'right' SP as there may be a better signal from a
> different provider than you think.
>
> The aerial connector is TS9 - look at the Solwise web site.

A friend had this issue with his business in a railway arch. The solution was [then] a Teltonika 4G modem and a el cheapo (like £15) omnidirectional aerial positioned outside the steel doors. As he was ~300m from a multi-carrier base station this worked well.

If you are remote consider a directional Yagi style aerial pointing towards your best base station or even parabolic (like a satellite dish). but either you need to work out exactly which band your carrier is likely to be using or a log periodic (wider frequency range, but lower gain). Amazon sell quite a variety.

Do NOT use amplifiers, all that will happen is your transceiver and the base station will negotiate lower power.

Use good quality cables and at these frequencies as short as possible,

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Subject: Re: Adding an external aerial to a mifi unit
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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 16:07 UTC

On 20/08/2023 15:18, Java Jive wrote:
> On 19/08/2023 10:43, SH wrote:
>> On 04/08/2018 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
>>
>> Hoo - ah - Way
>>
>>> 4G E5776 MiFi unit
>>> that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
>>>
>>> It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
>>> choosing a suitable aerial?
>
> Yes, different mfrs seem to have very similar looking but slightly
> different sized aerial connections, and if you try to connect an aerial
> with the wrong type you may damage both connectors.  Make sure you order
> aerials with the correct type for your unit.  Hopefully it will say
> somewhere in its specifications what connector are used.
>
> And, just to spice things up a little more, any given connector type can
> have different names!
>
> I know that I've posted about the above a year or two back, but cannot
> now find my original post describing the differences in connectors.

Just found this, an example of a M-F convertor connector to link two
superficially similar connector systems which in fact differ, but only
by a small size which, given how small these things are anyway, yer
average bod might not notice. Note that the connector names IPEX MHF4
and IPX U.FL are not exactly household terms, and that in the
description the two connectors each have a range of different possible
names:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/172552570831

Connector A
U.FL Socket, U.FL SMD connector ( center is male pin ), UFL Socket

Connector B
W.FL Plug, MHF4 Plug, W&#39;FL Plug
(I think '&#39;' is probably meant to come out as the digit '9', but its
HTML entity was wrongly coded.)

>>> Any recommendations?
>
> Be absolutely certain that you have the correct connector on the aerial,
> and, although a certain pressure is required to snap the connectors
> together, do not use excessive force.  If excessive force seems to be
> required, you may have got the wrong connector.

STET. See above!

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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