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tony sayer wrote:
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> Interesting you should say that as the early versions of the 303 did
> have biasing problems that were corrected and improved in later versions
>

** Quad made a small change to baising the 303 in the early 1970s, to make it adjustable.

Previously a pair of silicon diodes set the ( output transistor) bias current and compensated for internal temp changes inside the amp.
There was no need to compensate for temp rise of the output transistors due to the use of output "triples" - a major innovation in the 303.
One transistor in a Vbe multiplier circuit replaced the two diodes so a trim pot set the exact current needed with the same temp compensation characteristic as two diodes.

There was no biasing problem with any 303s sold, the change made it simple to get the setting right in production and after repairs.

..... Phil

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 by: tony sayer - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 20:48 UTC

In article <kdpvnnFrranU2@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>On 31/05/2023 10:28 pm, tony sayer wrote:
>> In article <kda9gmFev7lU1@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>>> On 26/05/2023 6:03 am, tony sayer wrote:
>>>> In article <kd790fFoooU1@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>>>>> On 25/05/2023 4:53 am, tony sayer wrote:
>>>>>> In article <kcl208F484nU2@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>>>>>>> On 17/05/2023 10:01 pm, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 16/05/2023 23:39, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **It has to be said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The LS3/5A is the most over-rated speaker system ever released. They
>>>>>>>>> are just an average performer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To be fair, by definition all hi-fi is overrated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **No, it is not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are many examples of nonsensically over-rated products available
>>>>>>> in the hi fi biz. The LS3/5A is one of them. We all need loudspeakers to
>>>>>>> listen to audio (unless you happen to use headphones, of course).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've listened to the LS3/5A many times (different manufacturers). I hear
>>>>>>> the same problems with all of them. They are, quite simply, highly
>>>>>>> inaccurate speakers. IE: They are not high fidelity speakers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you say where they are inaccurate bearing in mind their design
>>>>>> limitations and the purpose for which they were designed?..
>>>>>
>>>>> **Yes, I can.
>>>>
>>>> Well go on then!..
>>>
>>> **I believe that I answered your question, precisely, succinctly and
>>> economically.
>>
>> Yes, very economic precisely not answered!
>>
>> Perhaps their not "tuneful" enough for you;?..
>
>**Nope. Just horribly inaccurate. They sound OK, for a cheap speaker.
>Unfortunately, they're not cheap.
>
>>
>>
>>> The LS3/5A is being sold to people for domestic purposes. In that
>>> situation, they sound like crap. Expensive crap.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you say so, who would argue with such logic;!
>
>**No need to argue. Just listen to them. Compare them with a known,
>accurate speaker. The problems are instantly audible.

Well haven't dome that as such but more than the once I've been in a BBC
OB van next to both Ely Cathedral and Kings college chapel and the
audio sound field recreated in the vans was just like being in the
building! On quite a wide range of materiel small orchestral ensemble
large choir and Organ and solo singer and yep!, they didn't cause any
trouser flapping on organ pedals but the rest was stunningly good.

If thats inaccurate then its a bloody fine inaccuracy i like:)..

--
Tony Sayer

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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 by: tony sayer - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 20:51 UTC

In article <u59f58$2nj5u$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>On 01/06/2023 06:44, RJH wrote:
>> On 31 May 2023 at 23:23:51 BST, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>>> Perhaps their not "tuneful" enough for you;?..
>>>
>>> **Nope. Just horribly inaccurate. They sound OK, for a cheap speaker.
>>> Unfortunately, they're not cheap.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The LS3/5A is being sold to people for domestic purposes. In that
>>>>> situation, they sound like crap. Expensive crap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you say so, who would argue with such logic;!
>>>
>>> **No need to argue. Just listen to them. Compare them with a known,
>>> accurate speaker. The problems are instantly audible.
>>
>> 'Accuracy' isn't necessarily a problem, and trying to achieve it - at least in
>> most domestic settings - is a fool's errand.
>>
>There is frequency response, including resonance, and there is
>distortion, which 'muddies' things up and makes instruments hard to pick
>out in say an orchestra.

Some venues seem to be better at that lack of *muddle* than others i
reckon!.

Another debate for another day:!

>
>Frequency response is there at all sound levels but distorion tends to
>be less at low volumes.
>The lowest distortion I ever heard at decent power was from profession
>horn drivers. one foot long aluminium cast mid range horn, JBL bullet
>style tweeter.
>Twin 15" bass units and IIRC a pair of 8" lower mid range units.
>Ultimate disco speakers.
>
>But you can get very good results out of a 3 ways system with a dome mid
>range and tweeter. Distortion comes when you are pushing your small
>upper frequency units too hard, because the are are only two units and
>the crossover frequency is a compromise
>
>Colouration is simply a fact of life, and in the end people just tune
>most it out in a given environment. Unless there are very peaky
>resonances like what you get with cardboard cones, or an undamped metal
>dome etc.
>
>> I'd suggest the main issue is how good they sound to you, in your listening
>> environment.
>>
>> Of course such a measure can easily become coloured by perception, marketing,
>> reviews etc. But hey, if you enjoy the sound . . .
>>
>
>In the end that is in fact it. People are massively influenced by
>marketing. They don't want to admit they paid £4000 for two pieces of
>shit or that a home built pair at £150 is in fact 'better'. I spent
>years designing and testing and listening to audio kit, and learnt how
>to relate what the test equipment said to what I was hearing.
>
>And I have related my conclusions., Today all amps sound alike, and are
>essentially so near perfect as makes no difference. and a good CD beats
>vinyl hands down, and is pretty much perfect also. Bad stuff happens in
>the recording studio and in the loudspeakers, but recording studios that
>are now 100% digital are pretty much free of the dreadful recording
>quality that recording engineers with no technical background used to make.
>
>So the weakest link in the chain is the loudspeakers. You simply pick
>which flaw bothers you least and run with that.
>
>
>

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 by: tony sayer - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:50 UTC

In article <32e70ac1-4afd-4638-9bb1-c0634bc0a96fn@googlegroups.com>,
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> scribeth thus
> tony sayer wrote:
>----------
>> Interesting you should say that as the early versions of the 303 did
>> have biasing problems that were corrected and improved in later versions
>>
>
>** Quad made a small change to baising the 303 in the early 1970s, to make it
>adjustable.
>
>Previously a pair of silicon diodes set the ( output transistor) bias current
>and compensated for internal temp changes inside the amp.
>There was no need to compensate for temp rise of the output transistors due to
>the use of output "triples" - a major innovation in the 303.
>One transistor in a Vbe multiplier circuit replaced the two diodes so a trim pot
>set the exact current needed with the same temp compensation characteristic as
>two diodes.
>
>There was no biasing problem with any 303s sold, the change made it simple to
>get the setting right in production and after repairs.
>
>
>.... Phil

Absolutely right Phil it seemed that diodes were a bit too variable
hence the modification that introduced the pot easily done to an earlier
version.

I did once at have chat at an exhibition with Mike Albinson who i think
had had a few shandies and he was discussing a different circuit
arrangement to the 303 quite what it was he didn't say and then they
started dumping currents and that was that. I presume that the didn't
want to make the 303 "a" or "b" variant anyway the 303 had been in
production for many years at that point. He did say that if i wanted to
play around it use a different OP transistor and wind the rail volts up
i did scribble that info down but it was a long time ago now!..

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 23:37 UTC

On 6/06/2023 6:48 am, tony sayer wrote:
> In article <kdpvnnFrranU2@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>> On 31/05/2023 10:28 pm, tony sayer wrote:
>>> In article <kda9gmFev7lU1@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>>>> On 26/05/2023 6:03 am, tony sayer wrote:
>>>>> In article <kd790fFoooU1@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>>>>>> On 25/05/2023 4:53 am, tony sayer wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <kcl208F484nU2@mid.individual.net>, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> scribeth thus
>>>>>>>> On 17/05/2023 10:01 pm, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/05/2023 23:39, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **It has to be said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The LS3/5A is the most over-rated speaker system ever released. They
>>>>>>>>>> are just an average performer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To be fair, by definition all hi-fi is overrated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **No, it is not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are many examples of nonsensically over-rated products available
>>>>>>>> in the hi fi biz. The LS3/5A is one of them. We all need loudspeakers to
>>>>>>>> listen to audio (unless you happen to use headphones, of course).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've listened to the LS3/5A many times (different manufacturers). I hear
>>>>>>>> the same problems with all of them. They are, quite simply, highly
>>>>>>>> inaccurate speakers. IE: They are not high fidelity speakers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you say where they are inaccurate bearing in mind their design
>>>>>>> limitations and the purpose for which they were designed?..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Yes, I can.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well go on then!..
>>>>
>>>> **I believe that I answered your question, precisely, succinctly and
>>>> economically.
>>>
>>> Yes, very economic precisely not answered!
>>>
>>> Perhaps their not "tuneful" enough for you;?..
>>
>> **Nope. Just horribly inaccurate. They sound OK, for a cheap speaker.
>> Unfortunately, they're not cheap.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The LS3/5A is being sold to people for domestic purposes. In that
>>>> situation, they sound like crap. Expensive crap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you say so, who would argue with such logic;!
>>
>> **No need to argue. Just listen to them. Compare them with a known,
>> accurate speaker. The problems are instantly audible.
>
> Well haven't dome that as such but more than the once I've been in a BBC
> OB van next to both Ely Cathedral and Kings college chapel and the
> audio sound field recreated in the vans was just like being in the
> building! On quite a wide range of materiel small orchestral ensemble
> large choir and Organ and solo singer and yep!, they didn't cause any
> trouser flapping on organ pedals but the rest was stunningly good.
>
> If thats inaccurate then its a bloody fine inaccuracy i like:)..
>

**I've listened to the LS3/5A in several locations, compared to several
other quality speakers (more and less expensive) with a wide range of
music. At no time could the LS3/5A:

* Supply a credible image.
* Deliver anything resembling a bass response.
* Deliver a reasonably flat response.
* A rather muted HF response.

I suggest you compare the LS3/5A to, well, anything, but a pair of
ESL63s would instantly show where all the flaws of the LS3/5A lie.

Look, I get the attraction to the LS3/5A. It exhibits a warm, woolly,
poorly imaged sound. Some people like that, when listening to an
extremely limited range of music. Whilst I may not like it and others
may, the price of the LS3/5A is beyond reason.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 08:00 UTC

On 05/06/2023 21:51, tony sayer wrote:
>> there is frequency response, including resonance, and there is
>> distortion, which 'muddies' things up and makes instruments hard to pick
>> out in say an orchestra.
> Some venues seem to be better at that lack of*muddle* than others i
> reckon!.
>
> Another debate for another day:!
>
Venues suffer from something loudspeakers do not. Long period multiple
reverberations.

The Corn Exchange being the worst ever before acoustic treatment.

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