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* Ford service: or lack thereof.....lindsay
+- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
|`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Yosemite Sam
| `* Ford service: or lack thereof.....lindsay
|  +* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Daryl
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|  | `* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Daryl
|  |  `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
|  +* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
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|  ||`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
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|  |`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....alvey
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|  +* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Yosemite Sam
|  |`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....lindsay
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|  | `* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
|  |  +* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Xeno
|  |  |`- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Yosemite Sam
|  |  `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....alvey
|  `* Ford service: or lack thereof.....alvey
|   +- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
|   `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Yosemite Sam
+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....John_H
|+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Daryl
||+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
|||+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Xeno
||||+- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Yosemite Sam
||||`- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
|||+- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
|||+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....John_H
||||`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
|||| `* Ford service: or lack thereof.....lindsay
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||||  `* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Daryl
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||||       |`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....jonz@ nothere.com
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||||       `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....alvey
|||`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....alvey
||| `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
||`- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
|`- Ford service: or lack thereof.....lindsay
`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Daryl
 +* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
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 |+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Daryl
 ||`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Noddy
 || `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Daryl
 |+* Ford service: or lack thereof.....alvey
 ||+- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Xeno
 ||+- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Yosemite Sam
 ||`* Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
 || `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Xeno
 |`- Ford service: or lack thereof.....Clocky
 `- Ford service: or lack thereof.....lindsay

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From: notgo...@happen.com (Clocky)
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 by: Clocky - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:13 UTC

On 29/04/2022 3:06 am, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:19:54 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>
>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>
>> Why, Felix?
>>
>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini, against all advice from most of
>> the punters here, and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later on a
>> new old stock 2 year old Lancer..
>>
>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs their
>> head read....
>
> Well I'm unsure how any of that excludes him from having an opinion on
> Fords but, it could be worse. He could enable a fraudulent, lying hypocrite
> and run away from those who point out his idiotic & unjustifiable
> positions...
>
>

Indeed. One can make mistakes yet maintain integrity but enabling a
fraudulent, lying hypocrite and running away from those who point out
your idiotic and unjustifiable positions reveals a complete lack of
character and integrity.

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keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:13 UTC

On 29/04/2022 5:06 am, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:19:54 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>
>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>> Why, Felix?
>>
>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini, against all advice from most of
>> the punters here, and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later on a
>> new old stock 2 year old Lancer..
>>
>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs their
>> head read....
> Well I'm unsure how any of that excludes him from having an opinion on
> Fords but

it's completely illogical

> , it could be worse. He could enable a fraudulent, lying hypocrite
> and run away from those who point out his idiotic & unjustifiable
> positions...
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:13 UTC

On 28/04/2022 3:11 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:00:42 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 28/04/2022 12:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 28/4/2022 9:50 am, John_H wrote:
>>>> lindsay wrote:
>>
>>>> 3) When a major problem does arise expect to argue long and hard and
>>>> if you do happen to "win" make sure to have your mechanic check the
>>>> workmanship which is likely to be shit awful.  You'll also need to pay
>>>> him to rectify it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Very good advise.
>>
>> For the most part, but I wouldn't be paying people to fix their fuckups.
>>
>>> I've not owned a new Ford so I've had zero experience with Ford dealer
>>> service, had 3 new Subaru's and 2 new Toyota's, mostly no problem with
>>> the quality of Subaru dealers workmanship but several times they tried
>>> to up sell unnecessary expensive extra servicing.
>>> Mostly happy with local Toyota dealer service dept although they did
>>> tell me that I needed new fuel injectors in my Hilux due to poor idling
>>> at high ambient temps, they wanted $3700 so I declined:-)
>>> Nearly 50k km later when I sold it it was still running fine on the OE
>>> injectors.
>>
>> They're all the same. There is no one particular marque that has a
>> monopoly on quality service.
>
> This week on The Bold and the Baseless, the Bumhole (Vic) Bogan blurts out
> another opinion which has zero credibility.
>
> Poor little Gibbens. *Still* bitter that they wouldn't give his unqualified
> self a job in the workshop.
>

lol :-)

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keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:16 UTC

On 28/04/2022 4:06 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:49:00 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I've long been a supporter of the theory that you get a better level of
>> service from an independent than a dealer, as unlike the dealer the
>> independent lives or dies on the strength of the service they provide to
>> their customers and the reputation that comes from that. As having been
>> an independent myself
>
> Really Fraudster? When and where was this? How about some proof?
>

He's in fantasy land again.

>> I'm well aware of how important having happy customers can be.
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>
> I suspect that the only time you've ever made *anyone* happy in your
> miserable life was when you left Myrtle Grove. The ex-neighbors probably
> partied for a couple of weeks...
>
> snip unread
>

LOL... plus some.

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keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:29 UTC

On 28/04/2022 11:49 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 28/04/2022 11:46 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 27/4/2022 7:58 pm, lindsay wrote:
>
>>> Bus has a 5 year warranty... I think il'l use that if something
>>> serious goes wrong, but I think I'll get my bus serviced elsewhere...
>>>
>> Good plan if you already know a good independent but they can be just
>> as hit and miss.
>
> They sure can.
>
>> Mate took his Volvo to an independent Volvo specialist because the
>> dealer was too expensive, they incorrectly fitted new rear shocks
>> resulting in one snapped shocked shaft 150km from home while towing a
>> trailer, he has RACV Total Care so it didn't cost him to get it all
>> towed home but a lot of time was wasted.
>
> You'd have to be pissed off.
>
>> Same mates son had his Hilux supposedly serviced by an independent, I
>> serviced it a couple of weeks ago and it looked like it hadn't been
>> serviced for years, looks like he paid for services that weren't done.
>
> I've long been a supporter of the theory that you get a better level of
> service from an independent than a dealer, as unlike the dealer the
> independent lives or dies on the strength of the service they provide to
> their customers and the reputation that comes from that. As having been
> an independent myself I'm well aware of how important having happy
> customers can be.
>
> And there's some great ones out there. But it's not a given that all
> independents provide quality work.
>
> A lot of the stuff I've done here has been "rectification work" to
> correct shit other people have fucked up, from both dealership and
> independent alike, and some of it has been quite remarkably astonishing
> to the point where you have to wonder how some of these people can get
> up in the morning and manage to brush their teeth without stabbing
> themselves in the head with the brush.
>
> One I can tell you about that took place relatively recently was a woman
> I met on Facebook. She's a French back-packer who is travelling around
> Oz in a Ford Econovan, and it recently developed a clutch problem. So
> she took it to a mechanical repair shop on the other side of town who
> diagnosed a worn out clutch and quoted her on replacing it which she
> agreed to and left the van with them for it to be done.
>
> A week later she got it back with the clutch exactly the same, only now
> it had no reverse gear.
>

Without reading the rest of what is undoubtedly chestbeating rubbish the
second issue is a well known one that every experienced mechanic would
be well aware of. Check for the washer under the reverse switch. If it's
missing or if it has been replaced with one too thin the switch prevents
reverse being selected. Not sure why they would have pulled it unless
they replaced it but that will be the problem.

You're welcome.

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 by: Noddy - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:37 UTC

On 29/04/2022 10:31 am, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>>
>> In my not so humble opinion the two best new utes on the market are the
>> Ranger and the Triton. The Ranger is the best on the market period
>> regardless of price, and the Triton is the best value for money package.
>>
>> Everything else is just blah....
>
> Know a couple of Isuzu owners who'd disagree with you! :)

Likewise. I know a couple of people with D-Max's and they love them.
Personally I find them to have an incredibly agricultural engine and an
auto transmission map which does not suit it at all which is strange in
and of itself considering that the same auto is used in the Triton and
Hilux, amongst others, and in those it works very well.

In all fairness however I would say that the D-Max has a better laid out
interior than both the Mitsubishi and the Toyota, and it feels a bit
nicer finished than both of them.

> I actually have very little brand bias when it comes to buying a car
> as I tend to choose whatever best suits my requirements at the time.

I'm exactly the same. I don't care one bit who's name is on the bonnet
as none of them give me any kick backs to support their brand. That's
why I have the Nissan I have now. I'm not particularly a Nissan fan, and
I don't have any love of all things Navara. I bought this one because
this particular model was what I thought to be the best ute on the
market at the time, and it's proved to be an excellent choice.

I'm in the market for a replacement as the Navara is getting on, and I'm
probably going to buy new as I haven't had a new "me" car in a long time
and I feel like treating myself. I'm open to everything, and am not
ruling anything out. I've driven the Ssangyong Musso and quite liked it,
and I've driven the LDV T60 Max Lux and quite liked that as well.
They've very good buying for the money but are probably not _quite_
there in terms of what they offer.

At the moment it's between the Ranger and the Triton for mine, and at
this stage I'm happy to wait and see what the new Ranger is like.

> I last bought a Ford (F100) because I needed a ute with high towing
> capacity and nothing else came near it. It was otherwise a very
> ordinary vehicle but on the plus side it also had a phenomenal resale
> value (son eventually sold it on ebay for close to what it cost me
> new).

It's a stupid market right now for used vehicles, with people asking
more for 2 year old utes than what they cost new. Even my old Navara
which is ten years old now is still hitting 30 grand or more on the used
market which is insane considering I only paid 36 grand for this one
when it was 4 years old.

I'm currently detailing it up for sale, and if I get 28 grand for it
I'll be very happy indeed.

> Dealerships are another story and I try to avoid most of them like the
> plague. Unfortunately it's becoming increasingly difficult due to the
> complexity of the late model stuff and lack of service information so
> I absolutely dread the prospect of the next new car experience The
> larger ones also tend to employ dickheads as a consequence of a
> skilled worker shortage.

Yep. It's a problem. I can't be bothered servicing the Hyundai for the
reasons I mentioned in another post, but you have to wonder about the
mindset of some of the morons the dealers have working for them.

For example, the "technicians" have a habit of disconnecting the
dashcams of cars they service. I don't know what they're worried about,
as I don't think anyone gives a toss if they happen to be caught on
camera and with the bonnet up for most of the time the car is at the
dealership it's not like the camera can pick up much anyway. But they
disconnect the camera just the same. Fair enough. I don't care. But
fucking *tell* me that you've done it so I don't drive the car around
for a week not realising that the camera isn't working.

It was easy to tell on the last service, as the moron had not just
unplugged the camera, but pulled the wire that was neatly tucked into
the headlining all the way out to the passenger's side A pillar and just
left it dangling there.

> As confirmed by a recent experience involving a warranty claim on an
> ATV (Can-Am) that had split its radiator. Dealer was pissed because
> it had never been back for service and argued it was caused by lack of
> maintenance resulting in high pressure from overheating due to blocked
> radiator fins. Our response... "sounds like you'd better replace the
> cap as well". His jaw almost hit the floor when the penny finally
> dropped, suggesting he was more dickhead than liar (the latter
> probably works in the sales department).

Hahahahaha :)

> Admittedly we've since found another dealership which is a small
> operation run by its owner who's also the mechanic, a situation that
> doesn't exist in the car world as the manufacturers have long since
> closed down the smaller ones.

Sadly.

>>>> To a certain extent Ford controls the dealers so it makes me wonder if
>>>> its the dealers or Ford who are to blame, maybe a bit of both?
>
> Mostly the manufacturers plus the culture they generate! Absolute
> worst I'm aware of are Jeep yet both my son and our resident mechanic
> own them. Son because he's heavily into off-roading and the Wrangler
> Rubicon is the one to beat. Mechanic bought his because it was dirt
> cheep (European built Grand Cherokee). Both service their own and buy
> their parts online.
>
> Family business also owns a couple of Nissans bought secondhand so the
> only experience we've had with dealers were airbag replacements on the
> Navara. Navara (3 litre) has had more then its share of issues but
> there's no shortage of expertise outside the dealer network.

Is it the 3 litre turbo diesel?

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:42 UTC

On 29/4/2022 9:16 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 8:42 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 28/4/2022 11:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> It gave the house a fucking good shake and cracked a few walls and
>>> floor tiles, but after sending out an engineer who did nothing other
>>> than measure the differences in floor height at various points they
>>> denied the claim stating it was existing damage from previous movement.
>>
>> Pretty much what happened when we had a burst water pipe under the
>> house, dickheads sent "engineers" out 3 times to measure floor levels
>> and do so called inspections then they wouldn't pay because they said
>> that the damage was caused by natural ground movement.
>> Even the photos of the foot deep water under the house didn't convince
>> them.
>
> Fucking idiots.
>
> One of the neighbours who's house is on stumps had their floor drop and
> open up a 20mm gap under their skirting boards in some places around the
> house, and while they're insured with Shannons as well they sent some
> other "engineer" cunt out to their place to inspect the damage and who
> was apparently an "earthquake" expert. How the fuck you get to be one of

People well versed in earthquakes are known as *Seismologists* Darren.

> those in *this* country where we're lucky to have a significant
> earthquake once in every 700 years I'm fucked if I know, but apparently
> he was.

Australia has significant earthquakes *all the time* so there will be no
shortage of seismologists in this country.

https://ozforecast.com.au/cgi-bin/earthquakes?country=Australia

FWIW, Australia has a *Seismology Research Centre* that was founded by
RMIT in *1976*.

https://www.src.com.au/earthquakes/seismology-101/earthquakes-in-australia/

The Seismology Research Centre, or SRC, was founded in 1976 in
the northern suburbs of Melbourne, Australia. It was part of
RMIT University until 1998 when it was acquired by private
industry, now owned by ESS Earth Sciences.

The SRC operates the *largest private earthquake observatory*
network in the world, and operates the greatest number of
earthquake seismograph stations in Australia. Our clients
include many government and private organisations that require
rapid notifications of earthquake epicentre locations and
magnitudes to aid in the emergency management of their assets
and infrastructure.

Our staff have installed seismographs all over the world,
provided training in basic seismology, hardware and software
operation and maintenance, and have provided expert advice on
the seismological inputs to many major engineering projects –
including historic buildings, dams, and coal, gas, nuclear
and hydro power stations.

So Darren, yes, we do have seismologists and we do have lots of
earthquake monitoring sites all around the country. There is even one
where you grew up - in Richmond, Victoria. What's more, SRC's head
office is located at that same monitoring site in Richmond at;
141 Palmer Street, Richmond 3121 Victoria, AUSTRALIA
What's more, we have, according to the above, a great deal of
seismological expertise in this country.

You silly little man, you were surrounded by seismologists when you were
still living in Richmond! Oh the irony! You have little understanding of
the world around you! No small wonder you hide away from the world on
that windswept and desolate mesa!

>
> The neighbour showed me a copy of the report he did. He apparently
> looked under the house, claimed that it was flooded and the movement was
> caused by the water, and stated that the insurer wasn't liable.
>
> When she showed me the report she said "have a look at this" and opened
> the side gate where you can see under the house pretty clearly, and the
> area he highlighted as "flooded" on his pictures was simply different
> coloured soil that was put in when the house was built.
>
> His report actually stated that as we were something like 160+km's from
> the epicentre the movement felt here would be no more than that of a
> large truck driving up the main street :)
>
>>> I sat here and watched it happen :)
>>>
>>
>> LOL, you and the rest of the State must have imagined it:-)
>
> The bloke who came an assessed my place said that his office in Airport
> West copped a fair bit of damage, and I showed him this video of my shed
> taken from the CCTV camera at the time:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvv-2rSId6A
>
> He looked at it and said "Wow. I didn't think it would be that bad out
> this far" and then *still* went back to his office and submitted a
> report to Shannons where he stated that it was his opinion that the
> plaster and tile damage in the house was a result of natural movement.
>
> Clearly he knew what was expected of him :)
>
>
>
>

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:52 UTC

On 29/4/2022 11:05 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 28/04/2022 11:57 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 28/04/2022 10:52 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 28/04/2022 8:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>>>
>>>> Why, Felix?
>>>>
>>>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini, against all advice from most
>>>> of the punters here, and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later
>>>> on a new old stock 2 year old Lancer..
>>>
>>> 10 year old Lancer. It was manufactured 2 years before he bought it,
>>> but the car first hit the road a decade before and changed little in
>>> that time.
>>>
>>>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs
>>>> their head read....
>>>
>>> The MG affair was hilarious. Despite him claiming that he "did his
>>> research"
>>
>>
>> what research did I say I did and when? another of your countless lies
>>
>>
>>> he had no idea that MG was no longer a British manufacturer and that
>>> his car was made in China, nor did he know that the car never came
>>> with keyless entry or could have a towbar fitted until *after* he
>>> bought it.
>>>
>>> Seriously, the bloke is a *dickhead* who should just shut his trap
>>> and save himself the embarrassment.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> what could possibly be more embarrassing in a car forum than claiming
>> to be a qualified motor mechanic and proven a liar
>>
>>
>
> Claiming that you ran a successful million dollar business servicing
> exotics from your parents bedroom?

Yeah, that was so funny.
>
> The bloke has *never* worked outside a sheltered workshop, on all
> available evidence has no qualifications and evidently has no trade
> experience.

At best he is a TA *tradesman's assistant* or, at worst, a *Gofer*.
It really bugs him no end that he missed out on an apprenticeship and
that explains why he is down on anyone who actually did succeed in
*completing* an apprenticeship and attaining *qualifications*. Darren
has only himself to blame, after all, he ran away from school before
completing his *secondary* education. You don't get to pass exams *in
absentia*. LOL
>
> What a flop!
>

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:54 UTC

On 29/4/2022 11:16 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 28/04/2022 4:06 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:49:00 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I've long been a supporter of the theory that you get a better level of
>>> service from an independent than a dealer, as unlike the dealer the
>>> independent lives or dies on the strength of the service they provide to
>>> their customers and the reputation that comes from that. As having been
>>> an independent myself
>>
>> Really Fraudster? When and where was this? How about some proof?
>>
>
> He's in fantasy land again.

What? Darren *never left* fantasy land.
>
>>> I'm well aware of how important having happy customers can be.
>>
>> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>>
>> I suspect that the only time you've ever made *anyone* happy in your
>> miserable life was when you left Myrtle Grove. The ex-neighbors probably
>> partied for a couple of weeks...
>>
>> snip unread
>>
>
> LOL... plus some.
>

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:25 UTC

On 29/4/2022 11:37 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 10:31 am, John_H wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> In my not so humble opinion the two best new utes on the market are the
>>> Ranger and the Triton. The Ranger is the best on the market period
>>> regardless of price, and the Triton is the best value for money package.
>>>
>>> Everything else is just blah....
>>
>> Know a couple of  Isuzu owners who'd disagree with you!  :)
>
> Likewise. I know a couple of people with D-Max's and they love them.

So, grand total of two to base everything on. Well done.

BTW, best you leave statistics to people with mathematical literacy.

> Personally I find them to have an incredibly agricultural engine and an
> auto transmission map which does not suit it at all which is strange in
> and of itself considering that the same auto is used in the Triton and
> Hilux, amongst others, and in those it works very well.

Oh dear, again you show you don't have a clue. Just because the trans is
used in other marques doesn't mean it will be the same. What you fail to
comprehend is that different engines have different torque and power
characteristics. That means the shift map will be totally different for
each different manufacturer and even for different engines within the
same manufacturer. When a transmission supplier offers a trans to an
OEM, it comes supplied with a *generic map*. The engineers at the OEM
are required to tweak that map to suit the engine's torque, power and
RPM characteristics and to the vehicle it will be coupled to. As always,
the engineers have to operate between constraints such as performance,
acceleration and fuel economy. These days the bias is towards fuel economy.

The classic case where the OEM engineers got the map wrong was with the
ZF 9 speed. Some models of Jeep and the Range Rover were fitted with the
same 9 speed ZF. The Range Rover got the map and fit up right, no
hassles. Jeep stuffed it up and had nothing but problems - and ZF are
known for reliable transmissions, internal faults tend to be rare.
>
> In all fairness however I would say that the D-Max has a better laid out
> interior than both the Mitsubishi and the Toyota, and it feels a bit
> nicer finished than both of them.
>
>> I actually have very little brand bias when it comes to buying a car
>> as I tend to choose whatever best suits my requirements at the time.
>
> I'm exactly the same. I don't care one bit who's name is on the bonnet

Hahahahahah. You *are* brand biased you clown.

> as none of them give me any kick backs to support their brand. That's

Why would any car maker give *you* kickbacks? You aren't even in the car
industry FFS.

> why I have the Nissan I have now. I'm not particularly a Nissan fan, and
> I don't have any love of all things Navara. I bought this one because
> this particular model was what I thought to be the best ute on the
> market at the time, and it's proved to be an excellent choice.

Dodgy pieces of shit.
>
> I'm in the market for a replacement as the Navara is getting on, and I'm
> probably going to buy new as I haven't had a new "me" car in a long time
> and I feel like treating myself. I'm open to everything, and am not
> ruling anything out. I've driven the Ssangyong Musso and quite liked it,
> and I've driven the LDV T60 Max Lux and quite liked that as well.
> They've very good buying for the money but are probably not _quite_
> there in terms of what they offer.

LDV? A *Chinese* truck? You're kidding, right? After all the crap you
hang on Felix for buying a Chinese MG, you're *considering* a *Chinese*
LDV? Hahahahahahaha Your hypocrisy is too much for me!!!

Hey, here's a thought - you had no clue the LDV is Chinese?
>
> At the moment it's between the Ranger and the Triton for mine, and at
> this stage I'm happy to wait and see what the new Ranger is like.
>
>> I last bought a Ford (F100) because I needed a ute with high towing
>> capacity and nothing else came near it.  It was otherwise a very
>> ordinary vehicle but on the plus side it also had a phenomenal resale
>> value (son eventually sold it on ebay for close to what it cost me
>> new).
>
> It's a stupid market right now for used vehicles, with people asking
> more for 2 year old utes than what they cost new. Even my old Navara
> which is ten years old now is still hitting 30 grand or more on the used
> market which is insane considering I only paid 36 grand for this one
> when it was 4 years old.
>
> I'm currently detailing it up for sale, and if I get 28 grand for it
> I'll be very happy indeed.
>
>> Dealerships are another story and I try to avoid most of them like the
>> plague.  Unfortunately it's becoming increasingly difficult due to the
>> complexity of the late model stuff and lack of service information so
>> I absolutely dread the prospect of the next new car experience  The
>> larger ones also tend to employ dickheads as a consequence of a
>> skilled worker shortage.
>
> Yep. It's a problem. I can't be bothered servicing the Hyundai for the
> reasons I mentioned in another post, but you have to wonder about the
> mindset of some of the morons the dealers have working for them.

You can't service the Hyundai at *any time* whilst it is under warranty
or under lease. Them's the rules and you aren't qualified to work on it
in any way except maybe *washing it*.
>
> For example, the "technicians" have a habit of disconnecting the
> dashcams of cars they service. I don't know what they're worried about,
> as I don't think anyone gives a toss if they happen to be caught on
> camera and with the bonnet up for most of the time the car is at the
> dealership it's not like the camera can pick up much anyway. But they
> disconnect the camera just the same. Fair enough. I don't care. But
> fucking *tell* me that you've done it so I don't drive the car around
> for a week not realising that the camera isn't working.
>
> It was easy to tell on the last service, as the moron had not just
> unplugged the camera, but pulled the wire that was neatly tucked into
> the headlining all the way out to the passenger's side A pillar and just
> left it dangling there.
>
>> As confirmed by a recent experience involving a warranty claim on an
>> ATV (Can-Am) that had split its radiator.  Dealer was pissed because
>> it had never been back for service and argued it was caused by lack of
>> maintenance resulting in high pressure from overheating due to blocked
>> radiator fins.  Our response... "sounds like you'd better replace the
>> cap as well".  His jaw almost hit the floor when the penny finally
>> dropped, suggesting he was more dickhead than liar (the latter
>> probably works in the sales department).
>
> Hahahahaha :)
>
>> Admittedly we've since found another dealership which is a small
>> operation run by its owner who's also the mechanic, a situation that
>> doesn't exist in the car world as the manufacturers have long since
>> closed down the smaller ones.
>
> Sadly.
>
>>>>> To a certain extent Ford controls the dealers so it makes me wonder if
>>>>> its the dealers or Ford who are to blame, maybe a bit of both?
>>
>> Mostly the manufacturers plus the culture they generate!   Absolute
>> worst I'm aware of are Jeep yet both my son and our resident mechanic
>> own them.  Son because he's heavily into off-roading and the Wrangler
>> Rubicon is the one to beat.  Mechanic bought his because it was dirt
>> cheep (European built Grand Cherokee).  Both service their own and buy
>> their parts online.
>>
>> Family business also owns a couple of Nissans bought secondhand so the
>> only experience we've had with dealers were airbag replacements on the
>> Navara.  Navara (3 litre) has had more then its share of issues but
>> there's no shortage of expertise outside the dealer network.
>
> Is it the 3 litre turbo diesel?
>
>
It's a Navara Darren, they are all crap. There's a *very good reason*
there's no shortage of Navara expertise outside the dealer network -
they get *lots* of experience fixing them.

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 by: John_H - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:00 UTC

Noddy wrote:
>On 29/04/2022 10:31 am, John_H wrote:
>
>> Family business also owns a couple of Nissans bought secondhand so the
>> only experience we've had with dealers were airbag replacements on the
>> Navara. Navara (3 litre) has had more then its share of issues but
>> there's no shortage of expertise outside the dealer network.
>
>Is it the 3 litre turbo diesel?

Yep but it's a Patrol not a Navara (my mistake) although similar
engine problems apply . Unfortunately there isn't much choice when it
comes to serious 4WD utes and even less since Nissan no longer market
the Patrol. To its credit it drives better on road than a Landcruiser
of the same vintage, has a much nicer cab, and was affordable.

Had there been an affordable alternative the smart thing would've been
to ditch it at 200k, which we seriously considered. Most of its
problems have now been rectified although I'd hate to think what it
would've cost through a dealer.

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 by: Daryl - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:47 UTC

On 29/4/2022 9:16 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 8:42 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 28/4/2022 11:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> It gave the house a fucking good shake and cracked a few walls and
>>> floor tiles, but after sending out an engineer who did nothing other
>>> than measure the differences in floor height at various points they
>>> denied the claim stating it was existing damage from previous movement.
>>
>> Pretty much what happened when we had a burst water pipe under the
>> house, dickheads sent "engineers" out 3 times to measure floor levels
>> and do so called inspections then they wouldn't pay because they said
>> that the damage was caused by natural ground movement.
>> Even the photos of the foot deep water under the house didn't convince
>> them.
>
> Fucking idiots.
>
> One of the neighbours who's house is on stumps had their floor drop and
> open up a 20mm gap under their skirting boards in some places around the
> house, and while they're insured with Shannons as well they sent some
> other "engineer" cunt out to their place to inspect the damage and who
> was apparently an "earthquake" expert. How the fuck you get to be one of
> those in *this* country where we're lucky to have a significant
> earthquake once in every 700 years I'm fucked if I know, but apparently
> he was.
>
> The neighbour showed me a copy of the report he did. He apparently
> looked under the house, claimed that it was flooded and the movement was
> caused by the water, and stated that the insurer wasn't liable.
>
> When she showed me the report she said "have a look at this" and opened
> the side gate where you can see under the house pretty clearly, and the
> area he highlighted as "flooded" on his pictures was simply different
> coloured soil that was put in when the house was built.
>
> His report actually stated that as we were something like 160+km's from
> the epicentre the movement felt here would be no more than that of a
> large truck driving up the main street :)
>
>>> I sat here and watched it happen :)
>>>
>>
>> LOL, you and the rest of the State must have imagined it:-)
>
> The bloke who came an assessed my place said that his office in Airport
> West copped a fair bit of damage, and I showed him this video of my shed
> taken from the CCTV camera at the time:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvv-2rSId6A
>
> He looked at it and said "Wow. I didn't think it would be that bad out
> this far" and then *still* went back to his office and submitted a
> report to Shannons where he stated that it was his opinion that the
> plaster and tile damage in the house was a result of natural movement.
>
> Clearly he knew what was expected of him :)
>
>
>
>
I suspect that most if not all insurance companies refused to pay claims
for the earthquake, I'm surprised that we didn't have any damage, when
it hit I was standing in the kitchen and I grabbed a hold of the bench
to steady myself, it shook that bad that I expected some cracking but so
far can't find any.

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 by: Noddy - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 06:25 UTC

On 29/04/2022 3:00 pm, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 29/04/2022 10:31 am, John_H wrote:
>>
>>> Family business also owns a couple of Nissans bought secondhand so the
>>> only experience we've had with dealers were airbag replacements on the
>>> Navara. Navara (3 litre) has had more then its share of issues but
>>> there's no shortage of expertise outside the dealer network.
>>
>> Is it the 3 litre turbo diesel?
>
> Yep but it's a Patrol not a Navara (my mistake) although similar
> engine problems apply .

Fair enough.

The 3 litre V6 TD in my Navara has been rock solid, but like many
engines they're known for certain issues. Intercooler cracking (which
I've suffered from) and EGR valve failure (which I haven't) are the two
most common problems.

> Unfortunately there isn't much choice when it
> comes to serious 4WD utes and even less since Nissan no longer market
> the Patrol. To its credit it drives better on road than a Landcruiser
> of the same vintage, has a much nicer cab, and was affordable.

I concur.

Not that I'm vastly experienced with either, but I've driven both a GQ
Patrol and a 100 Series Cruiser and the Patrol is the better drive. At
least on the black top.

> Had there been an affordable alternative the smart thing would've been
> to ditch it at 200k, which we seriously considered. Most of its
> problems have now been rectified although I'd hate to think what it
> would've cost through a dealer.

Enough to pay off the national debt of a small island nation I expect.

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 by: Noddy - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 06:29 UTC

On 29/04/2022 3:47 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 29/4/2022 9:16 am, Noddy wrote:

>> The bloke who came an assessed my place said that his office in
>> Airport West copped a fair bit of damage, and I showed him this video
>> of my shed taken from the CCTV camera at the time:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvv-2rSId6A
>>
>> He looked at it and said "Wow. I didn't think it would be that bad out
>> this far" and then *still* went back to his office and submitted a
>> report to Shannons where he stated that it was his opinion that the
>> plaster and tile damage in the house was a result of natural movement.
>>
>> Clearly he knew what was expected of him :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I suspect that most if not all insurance companies refused to pay claims
> for the earthquake, I'm surprised that we didn't have any damage, when
> it hit I was standing in the kitchen and I grabbed a hold of the bench
> to steady myself, it shook that bad that I expected some cracking but so
> far can't find any.

We got a little. Corners of window frames and walls and across a few
tiles. Our house is on a waffle slab and it felt like the whole house
was sliding across the ground. I was sitting here at my desk at the time
with a cup of coffee, and when it hit the house shook enough for the
coffee to flop out of the cup. Took me a moment to work out what was
going on, but the wife jerried straight away and was standing in a
doorway by the time I said "what the fuck is that?" :)

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 15:47:40 +1000, Daryl wrote:

>>
> I suspect that most if not all insurance companies refused to pay claims
> for the earthquake, I'm surprised that we didn't have any damage, when
> it hit I was standing in the kitchen and I grabbed a hold of the bench
> to steady myself, it shook that bad that I expected some cracking but so
> far can't find any.

Try looking in a mirror...

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 by: lindsay - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:43 UTC

On 29/04/2022 1:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 28/04/2022 8:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>
>> Why, Felix?

>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini, against all advice from most of
>> the punters here,
>
>
> I had already bought it before I posted here

No. Thats not how it played out Felix, and you know it.

You paid a $350 deposit on it, announced your selection of new car in
here with the thread " Woo hoo! bought a new car today.." 21/06/2018;
as as it shows in the thread, you even thought of backing out.

Did you pay for the car in full on the same day as you saw it, or just
gave them the $350 deposit, and paid the balance 7 days later when you
picked it up?

>> and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later on a new old stock 2
>> year old Lancer..
>>
>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs
>> their head read....
>>
>

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:40 UTC

On 29/04/2022 5:43 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 1:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 28/04/2022 8:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>>
>>> Why, Felix?
>>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini,

MG3

>>> against all advice from most of the punters here,
>>
>>
>> I had already bought it before I posted here
>
> No. Thats not how it played out Felix, and you know it.

no I don't.

>
> You paid a $350 deposit on it, announced your selection of new car in
> here with the thread " Woo hoo! bought a new car today.." 21/06/2018;

so, as I said, I bought it before I posted.  paying a deposit and
signing the purchase agreement *is* buying a car, is it not?

> as as it shows in the thread, you even thought of backing out.
>
> Did you pay for the car in full on the same day as you saw it, or just
> gave them the $350 deposit, and paid the balance 7 days later when you
> picked it up?
>
>>> and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later on a new old stock 2
>>> year old Lancer..
>>>
>>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs
>>> their head read....
>>>
>>
>

anyway, all is well that ends well! :)  I had a new car to drive for 12
months, and I didn't really lose any money because I bought the MG so
cheap and got a great trade in price on the Lancer, and I now know I
will never buy another small car as long as I live! the experience has
cured me of ever wanting a small car, and especially a manual!

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 by: Noddy - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:53 UTC

On 29/04/2022 5:43 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 1:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 28/04/2022 8:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>>
>>> Why, Felix?
>
>
>
>
>>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini, against all advice from most of
>>> the punters here,
>>
>>
>> I had already bought it before I posted here
>
> No. Thats not how it played out Felix, and you know it.

Of course he does. He's running the standard FLC play of reinventing
history to suit himself.

> You paid a $350 deposit on it, announced your selection of new car in
> here with the thread " Woo hoo! bought a new car today.." 21/06/2018;
> as as it shows in the thread, you even thought of backing out.

He was advised to do precisely that, but he wouldn't as it would have
meant losing his deposit and that was never going to fly for a miserable
tight-arse like he is. He would have been *far* better off doing that
and copping the loss rather than being stuck with a car that couldn't
tow his trailer or carry his golf clubs, but he wouldn't listen.

> Did you pay for the car in full on the same day as you saw it, or just
> gave them the $350 deposit, and paid the balance 7 days later when you
> picked it up?

We all know what he did, but his selective memory will suggest
otherwise. And this moron has the gall to tell anyone else what they
should or shouldn't be driving? :)

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 by: lindsay - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 09:07 UTC

On 29/04/2022 6:40 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 5:43 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 29/04/2022 1:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 28/04/2022 8:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>>>
>>>> Why, Felix?

>>>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini,
>
>
> MG3

My apologies, A MG3 Core...

>>>> against all advice from most of the punters here,
>>>
>>>
>>> I had already bought it before I posted here
>>
>> No. Thats not how it played out Felix, and you know it.
>
>
> no I don't.
>
>
>>
>> You paid a $350 deposit on it, announced your selection of new car in
>> here with the thread " Woo hoo! bought a new car today.." 21/06/2018;
>
>
> so, as I said, I bought it before I posted.  paying a deposit and
> signing the purchase agreement *is* buying a car, is it not?

You did that ON THE SAME DAY? Jesus H Christ....
>
>> as as it shows in the thread, you even thought of backing out.
>>
>> Did you pay for the car in full on the same day as you saw it, or just
>> gave them the $350 deposit, and paid the balance 7 days later when you
>> picked it up?

It's not a trick question, Felix.

>>>> and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later on a new old stock 2
>>>> year old Lancer..
>>>>
>>>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs
>>>> their head read....

> anyway, all is well that ends well! :)  I had a new car to drive for 12
> months, and I didn't really lose any money because I bought the MG so
> cheap and got a great trade in price on the Lancer, and I now know I
> will never buy another small car as long as I live! the experience has
> cured me of ever wanting a small car, and especially a manual!

And esp one that has no towing capacity, or room in the boot for the
golf clubs...

So you paid 9k, plus your Magna for the MG3. How much was the Lancer?
MG3 + ?
>
>

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 by: lindsay - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 09:46 UTC

On 29/04/2022 7:07 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 6:40 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 29/04/2022 5:43 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 29/04/2022 1:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 28/04/2022 8:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why, Felix?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini,
>>
>>
>> MG3
>
> My apologies, A MG3 Core...
>
>>>>> against all advice from most of the punters here,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had already bought it before I posted here
>>>
>>> No. Thats not how it played out Felix, and you know it.
>>
>>
>> no I don't.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You paid a $350 deposit on it, announced your selection of new car in
>>> here with the thread " Woo hoo! bought a new car today.." 21/06/2018;
>>
>>
>> so, as I said, I bought it before I posted.  paying a deposit and
>> signing the purchase agreement *is* buying a car, is it not?
>
> You did that ON THE SAME DAY? Jesus H Christ....

I should add: paying a deposit and signing the sales contract IS done on
the same day: paying the *balance* of the purchase price and *taking
possession* is normally done after the cooling off period.(3 days)

>>> as as it shows in the thread, you even thought of backing out.
>>>
>>> Did you pay for the car in full on the same day as you saw it, or
>>> just gave them the $350 deposit, and paid the balance 7 days later
>>> when you picked it up?
>
>
>
>
> It's not a trick question, Felix.
>
>>>>> and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later on a new old stock 2
>>>>> year old Lancer..
>>>>>
>>>>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs
>>>>> their head read....
>
>> anyway, all is well that ends well! :)  I had a new car to drive for
>> 12 months, and I didn't really lose any money because I bought the MG
>> so cheap and got a great trade in price on the Lancer, and I now know
>> I will never buy another small car as long as I live! the experience
>> has cured me of ever wanting a small car, and especially a manual!
>
> And esp one that has no towing capacity, or room in the boot for the
> golf clubs...
>
> So you paid 9k, plus your Magna for the MG3. How much was the Lancer?
> MG3 + ?
>>
>>
>

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:01 UTC

On 29/4/2022 6:53 pm, Noddy wrote:

>
> We all know what he did, but his selective memory will suggest
> otherwise. And this moron has the gall to tell anyone else what they
> should or shouldn't be driving? :)
>
Which is worse, a selective memory or a delusional memory? Your
delusional memory, and it's a doozie, seems to make you recall getting
trade qualified twice when nothing of the sort ever happened in your
entire miserable life. But is it confabulation, that is the question? Do
you deliberately tell these huge porkies or do you actually believe them
to be true? One thing for sure, these porkies - confabulations - you
utter are a sure sign of brain damage, in your case, an ABI. Those car
headbutts sure haven't done you a benefit Darren!

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:26 UTC

On 29/04/2022 8:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 29/4/2022 6:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>
>> We all know what he did, but his selective memory will suggest
>> otherwise. And this moron has the gall to tell anyone else what they
>> should or shouldn't be driving? :)
>>

which is just another of his innumerable lies. I've never said anything
of the sort.

> Which is worse, a selective memory or a delusional memory? Your
> delusional memory, and it's a doozie, seems to make you recall getting
> trade qualified twice when nothing of the sort ever happened in your
> entire miserable life. But is it confabulation, that is the question?
> Do you deliberately tell these huge porkies or do you actually believe
> them to be true? One thing for sure, these porkies - confabulations -
> you utter are a sure sign of brain damage, in your case, an ABI. Those
> car headbutts sure haven't done you a benefit Darren!
>
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:27 UTC

On 29/04/2022 7:07 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 6:40 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 29/04/2022 5:43 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 29/04/2022 1:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 28/04/2022 8:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>> On 28/04/2022 11:08 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> anyone who buys a Ford needs their head read!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why, Felix?
>
>

because they make crap cars that fall to bits and the dealerships employ
crooks and idiots to do the servicing

>
>
>
>>>>> Says the person who bought a MG Mini,
>>
>>
>> MG3
>
> My apologies, A MG3 Core...
>
>>>>> against all advice from most of the punters here,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had already bought it before I posted here
>>>
>>> No. Thats not how it played out Felix, and you know it.
>>
>>
>> no I don't.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You paid a $350 deposit on it, announced your selection of new car
>>> in here with the thread " Woo hoo! bought a new car today.."
>>> 21/06/2018;
>>
>>
>> so, as I said, I bought it before I posted.  paying a deposit and
>> signing the purchase agreement *is* buying a car, is it not?
>
> You did that ON THE SAME DAY? Jesus H Christ....
>>
>>> as as it shows in the thread, you even thought of backing out.
>>>
>>> Did you pay for the car in full on the same day as you saw it, or
>>> just gave them the $350 deposit, and paid the balance 7 days later
>>> when you picked it up?
>>>
>>> It's not a trick question, Felix.
>>>
>

alredy told u above

>
>
>>>>> and traded it in as unsuitable 12 months later on a new old stock
>>>>> 2 year old Lancer..
>>>>>
>>>>> Brilliant decision making there, Felix. Perhaps it's YOU who needs
>>>>> their head read....
>
>> anyway, all is well that ends well! :)  I had a new car to drive for
>> 12 months, and I didn't really lose any money because I bought the MG
>> so cheap and got a great trade in price on the Lancer, and I now know
>> I will never buy another small car as long as I live! the experience
>> has cured me of ever wanting a small car, and especially a manual!
>
> And esp one that has no towing capacity, or room in the boot for the
> golf clubs...

nup. I fitted my golf clubs and ride on buggy inside

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FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Noddy - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:05 UTC

On 29/04/2022 7:46 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 7:07 pm, lindsay wrote:

>>> so, as I said, I bought it before I posted.  paying a deposit and
>>> signing the purchase agreement *is* buying a car, is it not?
>>
>> You did that ON THE SAME DAY? Jesus H Christ....
>
> I should add: paying a deposit and signing the sales contract IS done on
> the same day: paying the *balance* of the purchase price and *taking
> possession* is normally done after the cooling off period.(3 days)

Which is exactly what he did.

He bounced in here commenting about how he'd plonked down his deposit,
but was having second thoughts about the car not being as suitable for
him as he thought it might be. He was advised by *everyone* that he
should walk away while he had the chance, but he chose not to do so.

That's *exactly* what happened as outlined in the thread here at the
time, and if he disputes that all he needs to do is go back and read it.

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 by: alvey - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:45 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:53:11 +1000, Noddy wrote:

>
> We all know what he did, but his selective memory will suggest
> otherwise. And this moron has the gall to tell anyone else what they
> should or shouldn't be driving? :)

Gasp!
This is precisely the same as Putins' recent cracking of the shits and
telling the world not to interfere with his invasion.

You're a buffoon Fraudster. Always have been, always will be.

alvey

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