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A vehicle rollover is one of the worst things that can happen to you while driving. According to Consumer Reports, rollovers make up only 3 percent of all serious crashes, but they account for an estimated 30 percent of people killed while riding in a vehicle.

Rollovers can happen to anyone – adults and teens alike – and they can happen in any vehicle, but they are more common in taller, narrower, top-heavy vehicles such as SUVs, trucks, and vans. When driving a vehicle, using common sense, driving safely, and following routine maintenance procedures is important in preventing rollovers. But there’s more you can do to protect yourself.

US SUVs: ‘don’t drive in America’

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> A vehicle rollover is one of the worst things that can happen to you
> while driving. According to Consumer Reports, rollovers make up only 3
> percent of all serious crashes, but they account for an estimated 30
> percent of people killed while riding in a vehicle.
>
> Rollovers can happen to anyone – adults and teens alike – and they can
> happen in any vehicle, but they are more common in taller, narrower,
> top-heavy vehicles such as SUVs, trucks, and vans. When driving a
> vehicle, using common sense, driving safely, and following routine
> maintenance procedures is important in preventing rollovers. But there’s
> more you can do to protect yourself.

…..DON’T DRIVE IN AMERICA!

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On 17/09/2022 05:31 pm, Spike wrote:

> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

>> A vehicle rollover is one of the worst things that can happen to you
>> while driving. According to Consumer Reports, rollovers make up only 3
>> percent of all serious crashes, but they account for an estimated 30
>> percent of people killed while riding in a vehicle.
>>
>> Rollovers can happen to anyone – adults and teens alike – and they can
>> happen in any vehicle, but they are more common in taller, narrower,
>> top-heavy vehicles such as SUVs, trucks, and vans. When driving a
>> vehicle, using common sense, driving safely, and following routine
>> maintenance procedures is important in preventing rollovers. But there’s
>> more you can do to protect yourself.
>
> …..DON’T DRIVE IN AMERICA!

Ah... it's great driving a Jeep down the PCH or the I-15 on the way to
Vegas.

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Someone struck by a large sports utility vehicle is more than twice as likely to die as someone hit by a saloon car travelling at the same speed. The finding by American researchers will add further weight to calls for SUVs ­ sporty vehicles with a high, blunt-fronted body atop a broad chassis ­ to be made safer.

In March, Jeffrey Runge, the head of the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), called on the automobile industry to make SUVs safer (New Scientist print edition, 8 March).

Their high centre of gravity makes them more likely to roll over. According to the NHTSA, 36 per cent of fatal SUV crashes in the US in 1998 involved a rollover, compared with only 15 per cent in cars.

US SUVs: data from the last century

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone struck by a large sports utility vehicle is more than twice as
> likely to die as someone hit by a saloon car travelling at the same
> speed. The finding by American researchers will add further weight to
> calls for SUVs ­ sporty vehicles with a high, blunt-fronted body atop a
> broad chassis ­ to be made safer.
>
> In March, Jeffrey Runge, the head of the US National Highway Traffic
> Safety Administration (NHTSA), called on the automobile industry to make
> SUVs safer (New Scientist print edition, 8 March).
>
> Their high centre of gravity makes them more likely to roll over.
> According to the NHTSA, 36 per cent of fatal SUV crashes in the US in
> 1998 involved a rollover, compared with only 15 per cent in cars.
>

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 by: Spike - Sat, 17 Sep 2022 19:29 UTC

JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:
> On 17/09/2022 05:31 pm, Spike wrote:
>
>> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> A vehicle rollover is one of the worst things that can happen to you
>>> while driving. According to Consumer Reports, rollovers make up only 3
>>> percent of all serious crashes, but they account for an estimated 30
>>> percent of people killed while riding in a vehicle.
>>>
>>> Rollovers can happen to anyone – adults and teens alike – and they can
>>> happen in any vehicle, but they are more common in taller, narrower,
>>> top-heavy vehicles such as SUVs, trucks, and vans. When driving a
>>> vehicle, using common sense, driving safely, and following routine
>>> maintenance procedures is important in preventing rollovers.

>>> But there’s more you can do to protect yourself.

>> …..DON’T DRIVE IN AMERICA!

> Ah... it's great driving a Jeep down the PCH or the I-15 on the way to
> Vegas.

Oh, I’m sure you’re right. I was aiming my comment at the timid.

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A moment of inattention can turn your comfortable family car into a steel-and-glass deathtrap. Nearly as fatal as a head-on collision, a rollover is not the type of accident from which people generally stroll away. Even if you survive, and happen to be among the tiny statistic with no injuries, the cost of repairs to your vehicle could be astronomical.

Preventing a rollover isn’t something you should think about only when you’re in imminent danger. Once you pass the point of no return, there’s little you can do but experience the nightmare. Effective prevention starts before you start the engine.

Keep in mind that effective prevention starts before you start the engine.

Below, I’ve listed some tips that can help you prevent a rollover accident. I’ve also offered some tips on how to react to it. But hopefully, you won’t need to use that bit.
Choosing your vehicle

A lucrative business in SUV rollover lawsuits has sprung up in recent years.. Does this set off warning bells in your mind? It should. SUVs roll over three times more often than standard passenger cars. SUV, trucks and minivans all have a high center of gravity, meaning that the heaviest part of the vehicle is farther away from the road than a car with low center of gravity.. As surely as tall trees topple in the wind while short ones remain to sway another day, a high center of gravity is lethal to you and your passengers.

With that said, it’s better to choose a vehicle with a low center of gravity and a wide wheelbase. Or, if you do find yourself writing a check for that SUV, ask about electronic stability control.

Electronic stability control, or ESC, is a computerized technology that detects loss of steering control. If the vehicle is skidding, ESC measures the direction of the skid and applies brakes to each wheel asymmetrically.

However, like any other technology, this is not a replacement for good driving skills, so don’t get in the habit of relying on ESC.
Knowing your vehicle

How much weight do you expect your vehicle to carry? An overloaded vehicle flying around a corner or coming to an abrupt stop is unstable.

Make sure to check your users’ manual for the recommended weight limit. Moreover, the way the weight is divided up affects your vehicle’s stability. Even if you’re within a safe weight, using your roof rack to carry heavy furniture could mean the difference between a fatal rollover and a manageable incident.

In addition to knowing the weight specifications, understanding the ins-and-outs of your particular braking system can help you handle your vehicle in the best way to avoid skidding, losing control or locking up your brakes. Since all these problems can result in rollovers, familiarity with your braking system could save your life.
Practicing safe habits

Preventing Rollover Accidents

Once you’ve chosen your vehicle and familiarized yourself with the weight specifications and braking system, you can feel pretty confident about starting the engine.

But don’t let that confidence lull you into a false sense of security. Know what kind of habits cause rollovers, and replace those bad habits with safe ones.

Below are some tips for you:

Stay sober. More than half of fatal rollover crashes involve at least one drunk driver.
Watch your speed. If you’re going over 55 miles per hour, the chances of rolling over drastically increase.
Wear your seatbelt. Nearly all deaths during rollovers are due to the lack of a seatbelt.
Take exit ramps and bends carefully. If you jerk the wheel or fly around a curve, one side of your vehicle could tip over.
Ensure that your car is up-to-date on safety regulations. As new technologies are being developed, it is always important to make sure that your vehicle follows the minimum recommended Electronic Stability Control specs. This is a key preventive measure to a rollover accident.
Always check your tires. This is one of the simplest things that you can do to prevent rollover accidents. By ensuring that your tires are in good condition, you also ensure that you are in complete control of your vehicle.
Do not overload! This is another simple preventive measure that I’m sure you can follow easily. Remember that as the weight of your vehicle increases, its stability also decreases – that’s why SUVs and pickups are at a higher risk of rolling over.
Keep distractions at bay while you are driving. This is not just to prevent rollover accidents, it’s to keep you safe from any type of accident. Do I need to say more?
Don’t overreact, stay calm. This is really simple to comprehend but extremely hard to follow. You cannot control your emotions after all. However, losing control of the steering wheel leads to losing control over the vehicle itself. No matter how hard, just keep your focus and try hard to gain control.

Reacting to a rollover

Even if you’re the safest and most prepared driver in the world, you could still be faced with that terrifying situation: your vehicle starts to roll. How do you react? Although it may seem counterintuitive, turn the wheel in the same direction your vehicle is tilting. Stay calm and don’t make jerky movements or over-correct—you might end up tilting too far in the other direction. If all goes well, your vehicle will right itself. If your vehicle does roll over, hang on and wait for the vehicle to settle before trying to move.

Rollovers are scary and often fatal. With this in mind, take the time to choose your vehicle wisely, get to know its idiosyncrasies, and practice safe habits. Your life may depend on it.


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