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Re: Had an interesting visitor the past few days

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 by: alvey - Sat, 14 May 2022 05:51 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>

You're nuts.

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Re: Had an interesting visitor the past few days

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 14 May 2022 06:05 UTC

On 14/5/2022 3:51 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
>> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
>> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>>
>
> You're nuts.
>
I'm glad you made it clear he was nuts for, as sure as shit, he doesn't
have any nuts! NBN, No Balls Noddy!

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 14 May 2022 06:13 UTC

On 14/05/2022 1:51 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
>> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
>> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>>
>
> You're nuts.
>

Completely.

No skin of my nose that he is a failure as a parent and willingly breaks
the law.

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 14 May 2022 07:07 UTC

On 14/5/2022 4:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 1:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
>>> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
>>> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>>>
>>
>> You're nuts.
>>
>
> Completely.
>
> No skin of my nose that he is a failure as a parent and willingly breaks
> the law.
>
Nice to know we're getting under his skin though!

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 by: Daryl - Sat, 14 May 2022 07:29 UTC

On 14/5/2022 3:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 3:26 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 14/5/2022 2:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>>> I always liked the HTKG model Holdens. Had a few of them in various
>>>>> guises over the years and always enjoyed driving them. They were an
>>>>> okay car in their day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agree, IMHO better even than later models.
>>>
>>> I've got spot for the HR, and always have had.
>>
>> Owned a HR and hated it but to be fair it was well beyond its use by
>> date when I bought, cop ex brother in law got it for next to nothing
>> when he pulled over its driver because he was wandering all over the
>> road mostly due to very worn tie rods ends.
>> The driver got out and handed my BIL the keys and a signed rego
>> transfer then he walked away, BIL didn't want it so I gave him $50.00
>> for it.
>> I used to go to and from work for about 6mths before I finally got
>> sick and tired of constantly fixing it and freezing my nuts off due to
>> the lack of a heater.
>
> Lol :)
>
> I've had a bunch of HR's ranging from a standard sedan to a ute I put a
> chev and turbo 400 in, and cut the dash out and replaced it with one
> from an LH Torana which was an almost perfect fit. I loved them at the
> time, but if I drove one today it'd prolly be nothing like I remember
> they were.
>
> The Standard was a rare car, and I've never seen another one. Most
> people bought Specials. The Standard was devoid of any kind of extras,
> and it even lacked a key barrel on the driver's door. They only had one
> on the passenger's side and you had to unlock the car from the left and
> slide across the seat.

Not sure if mine was a standard or special but it didn't have a heater.

>
> I guess most people thought paying the extra 37 bucks for the "Special"
> was money well spent ;)
>

LOL although 37 bucks was a lot of money for some people back then,
about 2 weeks pay for a 1st year apprentice.

>>   Always been one of my
>>> favourite model Holdens and I can't really tell you why. I've always
>>> just liked them. The HTKG models were some of the best looking
>>> Holdens though, and the Monaro was a great looking car that has got
>>> better with the passage of time.
>>>
>>
>> The only Holden I would consider owning would be a HK GTS Monaro but
>> not likely to ever happen due to the crazy prices they want for one.
>
> Everything's going nuts at the moment, and there's no sign of things
> settling down any time soon.
>
> I haven't heard from the guy with the XA GT, and if I haven't buy now
> I'm probably never going to. I've considered upping my offer to 75
> grand, but I'm not sure if I really want to go that far considering the
> work it needs, and I think he's fairly firm on his 80.

Shame he won't move, I'd like to see it back on the road.
>
> On the other hand, I bought a new car on Thursday. 2022 Ford Ranger
> Wildtrak. They look pretty impressive, and I was able to wrangle a
> decent deal. I'll let you know what it's like in a year which is about
> when I can expect to get it :)
>
>

Nice, hope the wait isn't too long.

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 14 May 2022 07:41 UTC

On 14/05/2022 5:29 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 14/5/2022 3:40 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> I haven't heard from the guy with the XA GT, and if I haven't buy now
>> I'm probably never going to. I've considered upping my offer to 75
>> grand, but I'm not sure if I really want to go that far considering
>> the work it needs, and I think he's fairly firm on his 80.
>
> Shame he won't move, I'd like to see it back on the road.

It would be nice. As I mentioned it's a well optioned car and if put
back to it's factory configuration it would make a great cruiser.

>> On the other hand, I bought a new car on Thursday. 2022 Ford Ranger
>> Wildtrak. They look pretty impressive, and I was able to wrangle a
>> decent deal. I'll let you know what it's like in a year which is about
>> when I can expect to get it :)
>>
>>
>
> Nice, hope the wait isn't too long.

The car isn't even built yet, so it'll be a while.

The new Ranger will be sold all around the world and Australia is the
first cab off the rank with regards to cars being sent to dealers, but
the initial number is quite small with just 7500 units made available in
the first round of allocations and they're expected to sell out quickly.

If mine manages to make that first allocation cut off then I might see
it around September/October. If not then it could be second quarter next
year. It will all depend on how badly production is held up by chip
shortages and sick staff.

<shrug> I'm in no hurry. It's not like I'm short on cars to drive.....

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 by: alvey - Sat, 14 May 2022 20:34 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 15:40:18 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 14/05/2022 3:26 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 14/5/2022 2:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>>> I always liked the HTKG model Holdens. Had a few of them in various
>>>>> guises over the years and always enjoyed driving them. They were an
>>>>> okay car in their day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agree, IMHO better even than later models.
>>>
>>> I've got spot for the HR, and always have had.
>>
>> Owned a HR and hated it but to be fair it was well beyond its use by
>> date when I bought, cop ex brother in law got it for next to nothing
>> when he pulled over its driver because he was wandering all over the
>> road mostly due to very worn tie rods ends.
>> The driver got out and handed my BIL the keys and a signed rego transfer
>> then he walked away, BIL didn't want it so I gave him $50.00 for it.
>> I used to go to and from work for about 6mths before I finally got sick
>> and tired of constantly fixing it and freezing my nuts off due to the
>> lack of a heater.
>
> Lol :)
>
> I've had a bunch of HR's ranging from a standard sedan to a ute

Sure you have Fraudster. I believe you. Honest.

> On the other hand, I bought a new car on Thursday. 2022 Ford Ranger
> Wildtrak. They look pretty impressive,

Only if you're a fat, aging and insecure shortarse.
These hideous monstrosities, (the Ranga, not Fraudster), are the Valiants
of the 1970s. They were famed/mocked for being the car of choice for
immigrants cos' they were the biggest car per dollar on the market.

> and I was able to wrangle a decent deal.

You haggled him down to the ticket price. Well done you!

> I'll let you know what it's like in a year which is about
> when I can expect to get it :)

I don't understand why the wife lets you spend her money so wastefully.
That's making the highly dubious assumption that you're not lying again.

alvey

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 by: alvey - Sat, 14 May 2022 20:37 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 16:05:51 +1000, Xeno wrote:

> On 14/5/2022 3:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
>>> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
>>> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>>>
>>
>> You're nuts.
>>
> I'm glad you made it clear he was nuts for, as sure as shit, he doesn't
> have any nuts! NBN, No Balls Noddy!

Speaking of the NBN... I've swapped it for a 5G router. Faster and $20 pm
cheaper. Well played Coalition.

alvey

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 by: Daryl - Sat, 14 May 2022 22:43 UTC

On 14/5/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 5:29 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 14/5/2022 3:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> I haven't heard from the guy with the XA GT, and if I haven't buy now
>>> I'm probably never going to. I've considered upping my offer to 75
>>> grand, but I'm not sure if I really want to go that far considering
>>> the work it needs, and I think he's fairly firm on his 80.
>>
>> Shame he won't move, I'd like to see it back on the road.
>
> It would be nice. As I mentioned it's a well optioned car and if put
> back to it's factory configuration it would make a great cruiser.
>
>>> On the other hand, I bought a new car on Thursday. 2022 Ford Ranger
>>> Wildtrak. They look pretty impressive, and I was able to wrangle a
>>> decent deal. I'll let you know what it's like in a year which is
>>> about when I can expect to get it :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nice, hope the wait isn't too long.
>
> The car isn't even built yet, so it'll be a while.
>
> The new Ranger will be sold all around the world and Australia is the
> first cab off the rank with regards to cars being sent to dealers, but
> the initial number is quite small with just 7500 units made available in
> the first round of allocations and they're expected to sell out quickly.
>
> If mine manages to make that first allocation cut off then I might see
> it around September/October. If not then it could be second quarter next
> year. It will all depend on how badly production is held up by chip
> shortages and sick staff.
>
> <shrug> I'm in no hurry. It's not like I'm short on cars to drive.....
>
>
LOL, know what you mean, I've been thinking of buying a newer car but my
old one still runs very well, I just replaced the rear shocks, front
sway bar bushes and links and the suspension rattles have now
disappeared so I'm struggling to justify a newer car to even to myself
especially since I'm not doing very many kms.

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 14 May 2022 23:28 UTC

On 15/05/2022 8:43 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 14/5/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> If mine manages to make that first allocation cut off then I might see
>> it around September/October. If not then it could be second quarter
>> next year. It will all depend on how badly production is held up by
>> chip shortages and sick staff.
>>
>> <shrug> I'm in no hurry. It's not like I'm short on cars to drive.....
>>
>>
> LOL, know what you mean, I've been thinking of buying a newer car but my
> old one still runs very well, I just replaced the rear shocks, front
> sway bar bushes and links and the suspension rattles have now
> disappeared so I'm struggling to justify a newer car to even to myself
> especially since I'm not doing very many kms.

Yeah, I get that. We've had three or four new "family" cars in the last
10 years, but I haven't had a new "me" car in over 20. I've been happy
to buy slightly used utes in the past as there's been some real cost
savings in doing so, but the used market these days is completely off
it's nut with people asking more for used utes than what they cost to
buy new a couple of years ago.

So I thought "fuck it". I can't take it with me, so I may as well buy
something really nice and that will probably see me out.

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Noddy.

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 by: Daryl - Sat, 14 May 2022 23:58 UTC

On 15/5/2022 9:28 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 8:43 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 14/5/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> If mine manages to make that first allocation cut off then I might
>>> see it around September/October. If not then it could be second
>>> quarter next year. It will all depend on how badly production is held
>>> up by chip shortages and sick staff.
>>>
>>> <shrug> I'm in no hurry. It's not like I'm short on cars to drive.....
>>>
>>>
>> LOL, know what you mean, I've been thinking of buying a newer car but
>> my old one still runs very well, I just replaced the rear shocks,
>> front sway bar bushes and links and the suspension rattles have now
>> disappeared so I'm struggling to justify a newer car to even to myself
>> especially since I'm not doing very many kms.
>
> Yeah, I get that. We've had three or four new "family" cars in the last
> 10 years, but I haven't had a new "me" car in over 20. I've been happy
> to buy slightly used utes in the past as there's been some real cost
> savings in doing so, but the used market these days is completely off
> it's nut with people asking more for used utes than what they cost to
> buy new a couple of years ago.
>
> So I thought "fuck it". I can't take it with me, so I may as well buy
> something really nice and that will probably see me out.
>
>
>
>
LOL, I bought a new pair of work boots a few days ago and the woman in
the shop said that they should last a long time if I look after them, I
said "they will probably see me out":-)

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 by: Grumpy Tech - Sun, 15 May 2022 00:42 UTC

On 15/05/2022 6:37 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2022 16:05:51 +1000, Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 14/5/2022 3:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
>>>> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
>>>> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're nuts.
>>>
>> I'm glad you made it clear he was nuts for, as sure as shit, he doesn't
>> have any nuts! NBN, No Balls Noddy!
>
> Speaking of the NBN... I've swapped it for a 5G router. Faster and $20 pm
> cheaper. Well played Coalition.
>
Actually it was Labor who stuffed us all with the NBN when most in the
industry knew that within a number of months 5g would be happening and
would prove faster if initial trials were any indication.

Mind you the biggest limitation of any internet service in Australia is
the backhaul capacity between centres and the overseas backhaul
capacity. The lack of redundancy is also ludicrous. With the old copper
system if a line was taken out, there were multiple alternate routes to
direct calls. Now with the current situation some companies only have
one link, some have two but generally located in the same geographical
area. It doesn't take much and the whole network comes crashing down.

That's apart from the fact that industry was not ready for the higher
speeds so data centres etc needed major upgrades to cope.

So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.

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Subject: Re: Had an interesting visitor the past few days
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 by: Noddy - Sun, 15 May 2022 00:49 UTC

On 15/05/2022 9:58 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/5/2022 9:28 am, Noddy wrote:

>>> LOL, know what you mean, I've been thinking of buying a newer car but
>>> my old one still runs very well, I just replaced the rear shocks,
>>> front sway bar bushes and links and the suspension rattles have now
>>> disappeared so I'm struggling to justify a newer car to even to
>>> myself especially since I'm not doing very many kms.
>>
>> Yeah, I get that. We've had three or four new "family" cars in the
>> last 10 years, but I haven't had a new "me" car in over 20. I've been
>> happy to buy slightly used utes in the past as there's been some real
>> cost savings in doing so, but the used market these days is completely
>> off it's nut with people asking more for used utes than what they cost
>> to buy new a couple of years ago.
>>
>> So I thought "fuck it". I can't take it with me, so I may as well buy
>> something really nice and that will probably see me out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> LOL, I bought a new pair of work boots a few days ago and the woman in
> the shop said that they should last a long time if I look after them, I
> said "they will probably see me out":-)

Heh :)

Wait till you get asked if you want a free cup of tea as part of
Senior's week :)

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 15 May 2022 00:52 UTC

On 15/05/2022 10:42 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:

> Actually it was Labor who stuffed us all with the NBN when most in the
> industry knew that within a number of months 5g would be happening and
> would prove faster if initial trials were any indication.
>
> Mind you the biggest limitation of any internet service in Australia is
> the backhaul capacity between centres and the overseas backhaul
> capacity. The lack of redundancy is also ludicrous. With the old copper
> system if a line was taken out, there were multiple alternate routes to
> direct calls. Now with the current situation some companies only have
> one link, some have two but generally located in the same geographical
> area. It doesn't take much and the whole network comes crashing down.
>
> That's apart from the fact that industry was not ready for the higher
> speeds so data centres etc needed major upgrades to cope.
>
> So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
> the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.

Yep. The ABN was a *huge* cluster fuck from the get-go. Ridiculously
optimistic in it's goals, and hopelessly under budgeted. It was *never*
going to work as intended, and has been nothing but a white elephant
ever since.

A typical Labor fuck up in fact....

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 by: alvey - Sun, 15 May 2022 00:59 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:42:39 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:

> On 15/05/2022 6:37 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 16:05:51 +1000, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/5/2022 3:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
>>>>> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
>>>>> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're nuts.
>>>>
>>> I'm glad you made it clear he was nuts for, as sure as shit, he doesn't
>>> have any nuts! NBN, No Balls Noddy!
>>
>> Speaking of the NBN... I've swapped it for a 5G router. Faster and $20 pm
>> cheaper. Well played Coalition.
>>
> Actually it was Labor who stuffed us all with the NBN when most in the
> industry knew that within a number of months 5g would be happening and
> would prove faster if initial trials were any indication.
>
> Mind you the biggest limitation of any internet service in Australia is
> the backhaul capacity between centres and the overseas backhaul
> capacity. The lack of redundancy is also ludicrous. With the old copper
> system if a line was taken out, there were multiple alternate routes to
> direct calls. Now with the current situation some companies only have
> one link, some have two but generally located in the same geographical
> area. It doesn't take much and the whole network comes crashing down.
>
> That's apart from the fact that industry was not ready for the higher
> speeds so data centres etc needed major upgrades to cope.
>
> So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
> the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.

I can't argue with that. Not now that Bill Gates has control of my brain
through his evil genius 5G that's sitting on my desk. And riddling me with
Covid and cancer for good measure.

Anyhoo, another recent purchase is an Epson Ecotank printer. Claimed to not
require ink for 2 years. Stay tuned for quality review... Errr... That's a
review of the print quality, not necessarily a quality review...

alvey

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:07 UTC

On 14/05/2022 1:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 3:26 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 14/5/2022 2:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>>> I always liked the HTKG model Holdens. Had a few of them in various
>>>>> guises over the years and always enjoyed driving them. They were an
>>>>> okay car in their day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agree, IMHO better even than later models.
>>>
>>> I've got spot for the HR, and always have had.
>>
>> Owned a HR and hated it but to be fair it was well beyond its use by
>> date when I bought, cop ex brother in law got it for next to nothing
>> when he pulled over its driver because he was wandering all over the
>> road mostly due to very worn tie rods ends.
>> The driver got out and handed my BIL the keys and a signed rego
>> transfer then he walked away, BIL didn't want it so I gave him $50.00
>> for it.
>> I used to go to and from work for about 6mths before I finally got
>> sick and tired of constantly fixing it and freezing my nuts off due to
>> the lack of a heater.
>
> Lol :)
>
> I've had a bunch of HR's ranging from a standard sedan to a ute I put a
> chev and turbo 400 in, and cut the dash out and replaced it with one
> from an LH Torana which was an almost perfect fit. I loved them at the
> time, but if I drove one today it'd prolly be nothing like I remember
> they were.
>
> The Standard was a rare car, and I've never seen another one. Most
> people bought Specials. The Standard was devoid of any kind of extras,
> and it even lacked a key barrel on the driver's door. They only had one
> on the passenger's side and you had to unlock the car from the left and
> slide across the seat.
>
> I guess most people thought paying the extra 37 bucks for the "Special"
> was money well spent ;)
>
>>   Always been one of my
>>> favourite model Holdens and I can't really tell you why. I've always
>>> just liked them. The HTKG models were some of the best looking
>>> Holdens though, and the Monaro was a great looking car that has got
>>> better with the passage of time.
>>>
>>
>> The only Holden I would consider owning would be a HK GTS Monaro but
>> not likely to ever happen due to the crazy prices they want for one.
>
> Everything's going nuts at the moment, and there's no sign of things
> settling down any time soon.
>
> I haven't heard from the guy with the XA GT, and if I haven't buy now
> I'm probably never going to. I've considered upping my offer to 75
> grand, but I'm not sure if I really want to go that far considering the
> work it needs, and I think he's fairly firm on his 80.
>
> On the other hand, I bought a new car on Thursday. 2022 Ford Ranger
> Wildtrak. They look pretty impressive, and I was able to wrangle a
> decent deal. I'll let you know what it's like in a year which is about
> when I can expect to get it :)
>

You "wrangled" a deal like you did on the Hyundai, by paying full RRP?

Mate you have "egotistical dickhead" written all over you... obviously,
as you bought a vehicle for people with small man syndrome. Knowing
that, *they* played *you* and I'm sure got a great deal :-)

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 by: alvey - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:09 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:52:35 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/05/2022 10:42 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> Actually it was Labor who stuffed us all with the NBN when most in the
>> industry knew that within a number of months 5g would be happening and
>> would prove faster if initial trials were any indication.
>>
>> Mind you the biggest limitation of any internet service in Australia is
>> the backhaul capacity between centres and the overseas backhaul
>> capacity. The lack of redundancy is also ludicrous. With the old copper
>> system if a line was taken out, there were multiple alternate routes to
>> direct calls. Now with the current situation some companies only have
>> one link, some have two but generally located in the same geographical
>> area. It doesn't take much and the whole network comes crashing down.
>>
>> That's apart from the fact that industry was not ready for the higher
>> speeds so data centres etc needed major upgrades to cope.
>>
>> So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
>> the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.
>
> Yep. The ABN was a *huge* cluster fuck from the get-go. Ridiculously
> optimistic in it's goals, and hopelessly under budgeted. It was *never*
> going to work as intended, and has been nothing but a white elephant
> ever since.
>
> A typical Labor fuck up in fact....

You went close with this boys, but the Phillipines' sweeping the Marcos's
back into power has edged you out for this weeks 'Stupidity of the Week'
award. I'm very confident you'll bounce back though.

alvey

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:11 UTC

On 15/05/2022 4:34 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2022 15:40:18 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 14/05/2022 3:26 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 14/5/2022 2:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I always liked the HTKG model Holdens. Had a few of them in various
>>>>>> guises over the years and always enjoyed driving them. They were an
>>>>>> okay car in their day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree, IMHO better even than later models.
>>>>
>>>> I've got spot for the HR, and always have had.
>>>
>>> Owned a HR and hated it but to be fair it was well beyond its use by
>>> date when I bought, cop ex brother in law got it for next to nothing
>>> when he pulled over its driver because he was wandering all over the
>>> road mostly due to very worn tie rods ends.
>>> The driver got out and handed my BIL the keys and a signed rego transfer
>>> then he walked away, BIL didn't want it so I gave him $50.00 for it.
>>> I used to go to and from work for about 6mths before I finally got sick
>>> and tired of constantly fixing it and freezing my nuts off due to the
>>> lack of a heater.
>>
>> Lol :)
>>
>> I've had a bunch of HR's ranging from a standard sedan to a ute
>
> Sure you have Fraudster. I believe you. Honest.
>
>> On the other hand, I bought a new car on Thursday. 2022 Ford Ranger
>> Wildtrak. They look pretty impressive,
>
> Only if you're a fat, aging and insecure shortarse.
> These hideous monstrosities, (the Ranga, not Fraudster), are the Valiants
> of the 1970s. They were famed/mocked for being the car of choice for
> immigrants cos' they were the biggest car per dollar on the market.
>

That's a pretty accurate assessment actually.

>> and I was able to wrangle a decent deal.
>
> You haggled him down to the ticket price. Well done you!
>
>> I'll let you know what it's like in a year which is about
>> when I can expect to get it :)
>
> I don't understand why the wife lets you spend her money so wastefully.
> That's making the highly dubious assumption that you're not lying again.
>

Well he claimed to have diabetes twice before telling us that he never
claimed to have diabetes because he's never had it. So yeah, in a year
he's just as likely to deny ever saying he bought it.

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:25 UTC

On 15/05/2022 8:59 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:42:39 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 15/05/2022 6:37 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 16:05:51 +1000, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14/5/2022 3:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:00:22 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <space left here for the whinging softcocks who can't go a day without
>>>>>> replying to any of my posts to make some ridiculously inane remark about
>>>>>> not wearing seat belts ↓↓↓↓↓)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're nuts.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm glad you made it clear he was nuts for, as sure as shit, he doesn't
>>>> have any nuts! NBN, No Balls Noddy!
>>>
>>> Speaking of the NBN... I've swapped it for a 5G router. Faster and $20 pm
>>> cheaper. Well played Coalition.
>>>
>> Actually it was Labor who stuffed us all with the NBN when most in the
>> industry knew that within a number of months 5g would be happening and
>> would prove faster if initial trials were any indication.
>>
>> Mind you the biggest limitation of any internet service in Australia is
>> the backhaul capacity between centres and the overseas backhaul
>> capacity. The lack of redundancy is also ludicrous. With the old copper
>> system if a line was taken out, there were multiple alternate routes to
>> direct calls. Now with the current situation some companies only have
>> one link, some have two but generally located in the same geographical
>> area. It doesn't take much and the whole network comes crashing down.
>>
>> That's apart from the fact that industry was not ready for the higher
>> speeds so data centres etc needed major upgrades to cope.
>>
>> So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
>> the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.
>
> I can't argue with that. Not now that Bill Gates has control of my brain
> through his evil genius 5G that's sitting on my desk. And riddling me with
> Covid and cancer for good measure.
>
> Anyhoo, another recent purchase is an Epson Ecotank printer. Claimed to not
> require ink for 2 years. Stay tuned for quality review... Errr... That's a
> review of the print quality, not necessarily a quality review...
>
>
>
> alvey
>

I don't care, I'll never buy Epson again after discovering that my
"empty" chipped cartridges were in fact 1/2 to 3/4 full and black only
printing would "use" colour ink. Worse, the printer would stop printing
black when it registered a colour cartridge as "empty", which it clearly
wasn't.

Others were probably doing the same but I don't know that from personal
experience. Anyway, happy with a Brother Laser MFP I have now for the
bit of printing we do although the software is a bit meh.

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:28 UTC

On 15/05/2022 8:52 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 10:42 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> Actually it was Labor who stuffed us all with the NBN when most in the
>> industry knew that within a number of months 5g would be happening and
>> would prove faster if initial trials were any indication.
>>
>> Mind you the biggest limitation of any internet service in Australia
>> is the backhaul capacity between centres and the overseas backhaul
>> capacity. The lack of redundancy is also ludicrous. With the old
>> copper system if a line was taken out, there were multiple alternate
>> routes to direct calls. Now with the current situation some companies
>> only have one link, some have two but generally located in the same
>> geographical area. It doesn't take much and the whole network comes
>> crashing down.
>>
>> That's apart from the fact that industry was not ready for the higher
>> speeds so data centres etc needed major upgrades to cope.
>>
>> So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
>> the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.
>
> Yep. The ABN was a *huge* cluster fuck from the get-go. Ridiculously
> optimistic in it's goals, and hopelessly under budgeted. It was *never*
> going to work as intended, and has been nothing but a white elephant
> ever since.
>
> A typical Labor fuck up in fact....
>
>

That you're clueless is a given, but for someone claiming to have worked
in IT to blame Labor for this... that's just absurd.

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:38 UTC

On 15/5/2022 10:49 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 9:58 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/5/2022 9:28 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> LOL, know what you mean, I've been thinking of buying a newer car
>>>> but my old one still runs very well, I just replaced the rear
>>>> shocks, front sway bar bushes and links and the suspension rattles
>>>> have now disappeared so I'm struggling to justify a newer car to
>>>> even to myself especially since I'm not doing very many kms.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I get that. We've had three or four new "family" cars in the
>>> last 10 years, but I haven't had a new "me" car in over 20. I've been
>>> happy to buy slightly used utes in the past as there's been some real
>>> cost savings in doing so, but the used market these days is
>>> completely off it's nut with people asking more for used utes than
>>> what they cost to buy new a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>> So I thought "fuck it". I can't take it with me, so I may as well buy
>>> something really nice and that will probably see me out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> LOL, I bought a new pair of work boots a few days ago and the woman in
>> the shop said that they should last a long time if I look after them,
>> I said "they will probably see me out":-)
>
> Heh :)
>
> Wait till you get asked if you want a free cup of tea as part of
> Senior's week :)
>
>
>
LOL

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:54 UTC

On 15/5/2022 10:52 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 10:42 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> Actually it was Labor who stuffed us all with the NBN when most in the
>> industry knew that within a number of months 5g would be happening and
>> would prove faster if initial trials were any indication.
>>
>> Mind you the biggest limitation of any internet service in Australia
>> is the backhaul capacity between centres and the overseas backhaul
>> capacity. The lack of redundancy is also ludicrous. With the old
>> copper system if a line was taken out, there were multiple alternate
>> routes to direct calls. Now with the current situation some companies
>> only have one link, some have two but generally located in the same
>> geographical area. It doesn't take much and the whole network comes
>> crashing down.
>>
>> That's apart from the fact that industry was not ready for the higher
>> speeds so data centres etc needed major upgrades to cope.
>>
>> So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
>> the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.
>
> Yep. The ABN was a *huge* cluster fuck from the get-go. Ridiculously
> optimistic in it's goals, and hopelessly under budgeted. It was *never*
> going to work as intended, and has been nothing but a white elephant
> ever since.

I've been lucky in that both my houses have had fibre to the premises so
I have had zero problems, great speed and reliability, I did a speed
test just now and it was 269.15Mbps down and 22.65Mbps up, I haven't
seen anything below 200Mbps for a long time but its nuts that some
people such as Les and you that aren't far from me are on fixed wireless
and its garbage, in Hopetoun Park the NBN fixed wireless is slower than
the previous ADSL.
If I had to complaint about the NBN it would be the price, I pay just
under $90.00 PM so it isn't cheap, I could get cheaper but I rather like
the unlimited data and higher speed.
When I was in Qld in March I visited my sister and her husband who live
on the Gold Coast, they had a 5G Telstra system and it was even faster
than my NBN, so far they hadn't had any issues of it slowing down due to
congestion.
>
> A typical Labor fuck up in fact....
>
>

Typical in that they often have great ideas but fuck up the
implementation although I think that what the Coalition changed actually
made it worse, neither of them got it right and to add insult to injury
5G and satellite such as Starlink will make it obsolete.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 15 May 2022 02:14 UTC

On 15/05/2022 11:54 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/5/2022 10:52 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/05/2022 10:42 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:

>>> So thanks Labor for the lack of foresight and poor planning that left
>>> the Coalition with a white elephant to fix.
>>
>> Yep. The ABN was a *huge* cluster fuck from the get-go. Ridiculously
>> optimistic in it's goals, and hopelessly under budgeted. It was
>> *never* going to work as intended, and has been nothing but a white
>> elephant ever since.
>
> I've been lucky in that both my houses have had fibre to the premises so
> I have had zero problems, great speed and reliability, I did a speed
> test just now and it was 269.15Mbps down and 22.65Mbps up, I haven't
> seen anything below 200Mbps for a long time but its nuts that some
> people such as Les and you that aren't far from me are on fixed wireless
> and its garbage, in Hopetoun Park the NBN fixed wireless is slower than
> the previous ADSL.

It's just a massive mess and has been from the start. The service here
is bearable, but it's *nothing* like yours and not worth anywhere near
the hundred bucks a month it costs to have it.

> If I had to complaint about the NBN it would be the price, I pay just
> under $90.00 PM so it isn't cheap, I could get cheaper but I rather like
> the unlimited data and higher speed.

I don't mind paying for it if I'm getting what I'm paying for, but like
everyone else I know who deals with Telstra I ain't. I'm on a 50Mbps
fixed wireless plan, but if I ever get anything above 20Mbps I'm doing
exceptionally well.

> When I was in Qld in March I visited my sister and her husband who live
> on the Gold Coast, they had a 5G Telstra system and it was even faster
> than my NBN, so far they hadn't had any issues of it slowing down due to
> congestion.

Different story here. When I was on mobile wireless the average speed
was "carrier pigeon" :)

>> A typical Labor fuck up in fact....
>
> Typical in that they often have great ideas but fuck up the
> implementation although I think that what the Coalition changed actually
> made it worse, neither of them got it right and to add insult to injury
> 5G and satellite such as Starlink will make it obsolete.

It was a fucked plan from the beginning that could *never* be made to
work properly. To achieve the totally unrealistic objectives that Labor
originally thought they could meet would have almost doubled the
ridiculous initial costings making the project completely unaffordable,
and the only thing left to do was to try and salvage what they could and
keep the costs to a minimum.

Has that worked? No. Well, not very well, but then the initial plan was
such that it could *never* work well by design. All you could ever hope
to do was cut as much loss out of it as you could.

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Subject: Re: Had an interesting visitor the past few days
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 by: John_H - Sun, 15 May 2022 02:17 UTC

Noddy wrote:
>On 14/05/2022 2:25 pm, John_H wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>> They were typical of most things with 4 wheels that Triumph made: Total
>>> heaps of shit. They made world conquering bikes in their day, but their
>>> cars were hopeless.
>>
>> What day would that have been? :))
>
>As far as bikes go? The 1950's were their big game changer with the
>Speed Twin. As far as cars go? Any time they made one :)

The Speed Twin (5T) predates WW2. The most popular model in the 1950s
was the Thunderbird (6T). Last of several models I've owned was a
1960 C range T100 which was an absolute pile of crap for which I was
fortunate to find a buyer. OTOH I've never owned a Triumph car I
didn't like.

>> I've own both Triumph cars and bikes and worked on heaps more of both
>> and the only half decent thing about their bikes was the relative
>> simplicity of the their B range vertical twin as compared to other
>> British makes.
>
>Many around the world would probably disagree with you, but then
>opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one.

And your opinion comes directly out of yours based on zilch real world
experience! You obviously didn't know the difference between a 2500TC
and a 2.5 PI and by your own admission have never worked on the
latter. You've previously claimed a Yamaha RD350 (the most successful
production racer of its era) didn't handle which suggests that you've
never learned to ride a decent sports bike and probably never worked
on one either.

> Their gearboxes were designed to leak oil (they had no
>> seal on the selector shaft) and their frames were made of licorice
>> (Norton, among others, were way ahead of them). Their only world
>> conquering effort I'm aware of was the Bonneville salt flat speed
>> record set in 1956 by a machine that bore no resemblance to a road
>> bike other than having two wheels. They never got a look in at either
>> GP or TT racing and by the late 60s jap road bikes were shitting all
>> over them in performance, handling and reliability.
>
>By the time the Japs got their stuff together they were shitting all
>over *everyone*. Not just the Trumpies.

Wrong. I've also owned a 900SS Ducati, bought new in 1976, which was
certainly shitting all over the jappers after the poms quit the scene.
Mike Hailwood won the Isle of Man TT on the same model in 1978 and
Ducati remain competitive in both MotoGP and Superbike racing to this
day. KTM are right up with the Jap dirt bikes.

>> By the early 80s the company was in receivership after which they morphed into
>> something bearing no resemblance to anything that went before.
>
>Like almost every other British and American bike manufacturer you mean?

American bikes never got a look in post WW2 unless you happen to
belong to an outlaw bikie gang. Society misfits previously rode
Triumphs, inspired by the 1953 movie "The Wild One", which were
probably the best bike available in the US at the time.

>> During the same era the the Triumph TR range were way ahead of
>> whatever competition they had at the time. A TR2 broke the land speed
>> record for a production 2 litre car in 1953. It competed in numerous
>> rallies and races (including LeMans) and even won the 1955 Moomba TT
>> in your home state. Vic cops later used the TR3 as a highway pursuit
>> car.
>
>They used many cars. Including Mini Coopers, Mitsubishi Magna's, "Plain
>clothes" GT Falcons and Subaru's amongst them.

Since we're talking 1950s (the TR3 came out in '55) none of those
models were available at that time and none of their predecessors
would've qualified as pursuit cars lest they were policing pushbikes!

>> Factory TR4S entries won the team prize at LeMans in 1961
>> although you'd no doubt consider the Ferraris and Porsches that placed
>> ahead of them as heaps of shit as well!
>
>Some of them. Depends on exactly which models you're talking about :)
>
>> Triumph cars also had numerous international rally successes up until
>> the early 70s.
>
>Yeah, you mentioned that the other day, and to be quite honest it
>doesn't mean a hell of a lot unless you're deluded enough to think that
>factory "works" cars competing in a closed event have any semblance to
>what you see on the showroom floor.

Now you're confusing honesty with spin! The sole factory special I
cited was the 1961 LeMans entries of which every other car in the race
was also a factory special. All of their other competition successes
I'm aware involved stock models.

>A case in point. The 1968 London to Sydney Marathon was one of the
>largest rally events ever staged anywhere in the world, and it attracted
>an impressive field of well known competitors ranging from big budget
>works teams to privateers in a host of different makes and models. It
>was a gruelling event that took it's toll on the equipment, and in the
>end it was won outright by Scottsman Andrew Cowan driving a Hillman
>Hunter the team prize was won by Ford Australia with their fleet of
>three XT GT Falcons ahead of Porsche and a few notable others.

Who only won by default. The clear winner until the last run to the
finish line was a near stock Citroen DS driven by Lucien Bianchi who
was taken out by some geriatric in a Mini who dropped a U-turn on top
of him in Nowra. In any case it was essentially a reliability trial
and for the most part those with the biggest budgets and best backup
were bound to win. I also got a good close look at the cars on their
overnight stop at the end of the Nullarbor section.

>Do you think the Hillman Hunter or XT GT made great rally cars? I sure
>as shit don't but the results of that event suggest otherwise.

As you say it was a factory "special" that bore no resemblance to what
was sold commercially other than its outward appearance to a casual
observer. The only factory special Triumph ever built was the TR4S
and nor did they ever attempt to pass off their stock model as the
same thing (unlike Chrysler and Ford). The TR4S was never marketed
commercially.

>> The only thing the cars had in common with Triumph bikes in the post
>> war era was the demise of both as a direct consequence of the collapse
>> of the British motor industry. They were also entirely separate
>> companies for the whole of that period.
>
>That's a bit like saying Honda Bikes are built by a different company
>than Honda cars. They might be made in different factories run by a
>different management team, but at the end of the day they're both owned
>and operated by Honda.

Wrong again.

The original Triumph Motor Company was split in the 1930's and the car
and bike operations were sold off separately. The car manufacturer
went bust not long after and was acquired by the Standard Motor
Company. The bike manufacturer (Triumph Engineering) survived.

Post WW2 Triumph Engineering was sold to BSA and the Standard Motor
Company changed their name to Standard Triumph International (STI)
there being absolutely no other connection between the two.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 15 May 2022 03:28 UTC

On 15/05/2022 12:17 pm, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 14/05/2022 2:25 pm, John_H wrote:

>> A case in point. The 1968 London to Sydney Marathon was one of the
>> largest rally events ever staged anywhere in the world, and it attracted
>> an impressive field of well known competitors ranging from big budget
>> works teams to privateers in a host of different makes and models. It
>> was a gruelling event that took it's toll on the equipment, and in the
>> end it was won outright by Scottsman Andrew Cowan driving a Hillman
>> Hunter the team prize was won by Ford Australia with their fleet of
>> three XT GT Falcons ahead of Porsche and a few notable others.
>
> Who only won by default.

Yeah, he did, and that's precisely the point. The winning car isn't
always the best car on the track. Often it's nothing other than sheer
blind luck which determines the outcome of competitions. Still, I'll bet
that Himman didn't do anything to stop the demand for the sale of ew
Hunters as a result.

> The clear winner until the last run to the finish line was a near stock Citroen DS driven by Lucien Bianchi who
> was taken out by some geriatric in a Mini who dropped a U-turn on top
> of him in Nowra. In any case it was essentially a reliability trial
> and for the most part those with the biggest budgets and best backup
> were bound to win. I also got a good close look at the cars on their
> overnight stop at the end of the Nullarbor section.
>
>> Do you think the Hillman Hunter or XT GT made great rally cars? I sure
>> as shit don't but the results of that event suggest otherwise.
>
> As you say it was a factory "special" that bore no resemblance to what
> was sold commercially other than its outward appearance to a casual
> observer. The only factory special Triumph ever built was the TR4S
> and nor did they ever attempt to pass off their stock model as the
> same thing (unlike Chrysler and Ford). The TR4S was never marketed
> commercially.

That's nice, but saying that seems to suggest that every other Triumph
car used in competition was completely stock standard, and you and I
both know that that's complete bullshit. They had their "works" teams
just like everyone else, and just like everyone else their works cars
were very carefully prepared for competition duty.

You clearly have a love for Triumph cars and are happy to talk them up,
but I think you guild the lily somewhat. I have zero experience with
them (thankfully), but despite that I found your comments about their
""high VE" resulting in a "much higher than typical bmep" to be a cause
for the engines to not run properly on 98ron fuel to be perplexing.

The reason for that is because unless I'm missing something that you
haven't mentioned, there was nothing outstanding about either the VE or
the BMEP rating of the injected Triumph engine. In fact, if you look at
the specs you'll find that the BMEP of the 2.5 PI engine was only a
poofteeth greater than that of a Red Holden 202, and regardless of how
much of an improvement in VE the injection manifold made over that used
with carburetors I'll happily bet my left nut that the VE was nothing
like 100% which means the 9.5:1 static compression ratio was the hard
upper limit.

This one seems to be getting along nice, and while there's no mention of
the fuel used, I would assume it's the regular 95Ron used in the UK
these days.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyBL2wq-AX8

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