Rocksolid Light

Welcome to novaBBS (click a section below)

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

The major sin is the sin of being born. -- Samuel Beckett

aus+uk / uk.telecom.mobile / Re: Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging

SubjectAuthor
* Mobile_phones:_Firms_face_£3bn_legal_claim_for_oveJava Jive
`* Mobile phones: Firms face ?3bn legal claim for overchargingScott
 `* _Mobile_phones:_Firms_face_£3bn_legal_claim_fJava Jive
  `- _Mobile_phones:_Firms_face_£3bn_legal_claim_for_notya...@gmail.com

1
Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging

<ukv0fj$1nsd6$1@dont-email.me>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=14598&group=uk.telecom.mobile#14598

  copy link   Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jav...@evij.com.invalid (Java Jive)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Subject: Mobile_phones:_Firms_face_£3bn_legal_claim_for_ove
rcharging
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:59:49 +0000
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 35
Message-ID: <ukv0fj$1nsd6$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:59:47 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="09789a12154370e7ec6d60bf3a581022";
logging-data="1831334"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/khndVKVIvxbk6aY/kQkAGFYNMXQTEMIg="
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/68.4.2
Cancel-Lock: sha1:snGrDslanjuiAJp+jyPpjq7nA7U=
X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.eternal-september.org:119
Content-Language: en-GB
 by: Java Jive - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:59 UTC

Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67649539

"Millions of UK consumers could receive payouts after a legal claim was
launched against mobile phone networks.

Justin Gutmann, a former executive at Citizens Advice, alleges Vodafone,
EE, Three and O2 overcharged customers for phones beyond the end of
their contract.

He is seeking damages of more than £3bn on behalf of 4.8 million people.

Responding, EE called the claim "speculative", while O2 said it hadn't
been contacted.

Vodafone said it didn't have sufficient detail for its legal team to
assess, and Three declined to comment.

The "Loyalty Penalty Claim" - which is being filed with the Competition
Appeal Tribunal - is being brought on behalf of consumers who bought
contracts made up of a mobile phone and services like data, call
minutes, and texts.

Mr Gutmann estimates that 28.2 million UK mobile phone contracts could
be affected from 2007.

If the claim is successful, someone who had contracts with just one of
the mobile operators could get more than £1,800, he estimated."

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

Re: Mobile phones: Firms face ?3bn legal claim for overcharging

<6s46ni1uji7asse5cukp34bp9af5015u7i@4ax.com>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=14599&group=uk.telecom.mobile#14599

  copy link   Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!paganini.bofh.team!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: newsgro...@gefion.myzen.co.uk (Scott)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Subject: Re: Mobile phones: Firms face ???3bn legal claim for overcharging
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 13:01:48 +0000
Lines: 34
Message-ID: <6s46ni1uji7asse5cukp34bp9af5015u7i@4ax.com>
References: <ukv0fj$1nsd6$1@dont-email.me>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net QCXAU+nICnjS3rTucto0Vw1xnnn42O7zGJz9enYAkoZqABWvBK
Cancel-Lock: sha1:3wRMCFJ1VO6Ntruy8N/1u6YDD+c= sha256:8xu/pbPwbGP5qAAVBdQcMz9ijJZenyXA0ew7dFlFayE=
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
 by: Scott - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 13:01 UTC

On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:59:49 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
wrote:

>Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67649539
>
>"Millions of UK consumers could receive payouts after a legal claim was
>launched against mobile phone networks.
>
>Justin Gutmann, a former executive at Citizens Advice, alleges Vodafone,
>EE, Three and O2 overcharged customers for phones beyond the end of
>their contract.
>
>He is seeking damages of more than £3bn on behalf of 4.8 million people.
>
>Responding, EE called the claim "speculative", while O2 said it hadn't
>been contacted.
>
>Vodafone said it didn't have sufficient detail for its legal team to
>assess, and Three declined to comment.
>
>The "Loyalty Penalty Claim" - which is being filed with the Competition
>Appeal Tribunal - is being brought on behalf of consumers who bought
>contracts made up of a mobile phone and services like data, call
>minutes, and texts.
>
>Mr Gutmann estimates that 28.2 million UK mobile phone contracts could
>be affected from 2007.
>
>If the claim is successful, someone who had contracts with just one of
>the mobile operators could get more than £1,800, he estimated."

When did this happen though? Is there not a six year time limit for
civil claims in England?

Re: Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging

<ukv8fs$1p0q3$1@dont-email.me>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=14600&group=uk.telecom.mobile#14600

  copy link   Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!news.furie.org.uk!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jav...@evij.com.invalid (Java Jive)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Subject: Re:_Mobile_phones:_Firms_face_£3bn_legal_claim_f
or_overcharging
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 14:16:29 +0000
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 47
Message-ID: <ukv8fs$1p0q3$1@dont-email.me>
References: <ukv0fj$1nsd6$1@dont-email.me>
<6s46ni1uji7asse5cukp34bp9af5015u7i@4ax.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 14:16:28 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="09789a12154370e7ec6d60bf3a581022";
logging-data="1868611"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VtKbT5LlGDUPSHMutPWZiUDKdAAptYVw="
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/68.4.2
Cancel-Lock: sha1:RZucbkURVTu6xzxavvQF2L0JBQ8=
In-Reply-To: <6s46ni1uji7asse5cukp34bp9af5015u7i@4ax.com>
Content-Language: en-GB
 by: Java Jive - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 14:16 UTC

On 08/12/2023 13:01, Scott wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:59:49 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67649539
>>
>> "Millions of UK consumers could receive payouts after a legal claim was
>> launched against mobile phone networks.
>>
>> Justin Gutmann, a former executive at Citizens Advice, alleges Vodafone,
>> EE, Three and O2 overcharged customers for phones beyond the end of
>> their contract.
>>
>> He is seeking damages of more than £3bn on behalf of 4.8 million people.
>>
>> Responding, EE called the claim "speculative", while O2 said it hadn't
>> been contacted.
>>
>> Vodafone said it didn't have sufficient detail for its legal team to
>> assess, and Three declined to comment.
>>
>> The "Loyalty Penalty Claim" - which is being filed with the Competition
>> Appeal Tribunal - is being brought on behalf of consumers who bought
>> contracts made up of a mobile phone and services like data, call
>> minutes, and texts.
>>
>> Mr Gutmann estimates that 28.2 million UK mobile phone contracts could
>> be affected from 2007.
>>
>> If the claim is successful, someone who had contracts with just one of
>> the mobile operators could get more than £1,800, he estimated."
>
> When did this happen though? Is there not a six year time limit for
> civil claims in England?

IANAL, but I would imagine that suitable legal advice was taken before
launching the case.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

Re: Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging

<f1f46d13-791a-4027-b5cc-91237cc1a3ban@googlegroups.com>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=14601&group=uk.telecom.mobile#14601

  copy link   Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:4246:b0:77d:580b:c756 with SMTP id w6-20020a05620a424600b0077d580bc756mr5181qko.0.1702046250777;
Fri, 08 Dec 2023 06:37:30 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:264b:b0:6d9:f6e7:2f3 with SMTP id
f11-20020a056830264b00b006d9f6e702f3mr59360otu.6.1702046250490; Fri, 08 Dec
2023 06:37:30 -0800 (PST)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 06:37:30 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <ukv8fs$1p0q3$1@dont-email.me>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a00:23c7:ef16:7b01:b477:e29f:c511:b864;
posting-account=4hkfSwkAAADcv-_hpUK54e62WKY0FdSL
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a00:23c7:ef16:7b01:b477:e29f:c511:b864
References: <ukv0fj$1nsd6$1@dont-email.me> <6s46ni1uji7asse5cukp34bp9af5015u7i@4ax.com>
<ukv8fs$1p0q3$1@dont-email.me>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <f1f46d13-791a-4027-b5cc-91237cc1a3ban@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re:_Mobile_phones:_Firms_face_£3bn_legal_claim_for_
overcharging
From: notyalck...@gmail.com (notya...@gmail.com)
Injection-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 14:37:30 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Received-Bytes: 2429
 by: notya...@gmail.com - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 14:37 UTC

On Friday 8 December 2023 at 14:16:31 UTC, Java Jive wrote:
> On 08/12/2023 13:01, Scott wrote:
> > On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:59:49 +0000, Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Mobile phones: Firms face £3bn legal claim for overcharging
> >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67649539
> >>
SNIP
> > When did this happen though? Is there not a six year time limit for
> > civil claims in England?
> IANAL, but I would imagine that suitable legal advice was taken before
> launching the case.
> --

Well probably, but what the lawyers are looking for are suckers who took out expensive credit agreements to buy a mobile phone to sign agreements with them. Unless it is "no cure; no pay" they stand to lose more money possibly even if the lawyers win their case.

Personally I think it more likely that a small number will have a case, but the lawyers want as many applicants as possible to find them.

>
> Fake news kills!
>
> I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
> www.macfh.co.uk

1
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.81
clearnet tor