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Re: Councillor admits "large wagons" damaged cycle lane wands... but claims painted segregation works "extremely well"

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 2 Oct 2022 10:08 UTC

Bloody hell - even when they're designed to look like bollards drivers still can't see them.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeDnB-MXoAEcvjP?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bloody hell - even when they're designed to look like bollards drivers
> still can't see them.

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeDnB-MXoAEcvjP?format=jpg&name=medium

And for cyclists hitting large stationary things?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 2 Oct 2022 12:55 UTC

‘Light segregation’

For urban 30 mph streets, ‘light segregation’ - e.g. a line of ‘traffic wands’ - is often entirely adequate (see main photo). This provides much of the feeling of protection that enables less confident people to cycle, while occupying less space and costing a fraction of what is required for full kerb segregation (largely because there’s no need to realign drainage).

There are, however, pros and cons to different types of ‘light segregation’. Low-height solutions, such as ‘armadillos’ and ‘orcas’, have proved unpopular with both cyclists and other road users.

This is because they provide only a limited sense of protection, while presenting trip hazards to pedestrians and putting motor-cyclists at risk of slipping.

Where light segregation is appropriate, therefore, Cycling UK is inclined to favour traffic wands. We hope that engineering firms come up with more visually acceptable designs as this solution become more widely adopted

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