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* OT: Scummo is goneTrevor Wilson
+* OT: Scummo is goneNoddy
|`* OT: Scummo is goneJohn_H
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From: tre...@rageaudio.com.au (Trevor Wilson)
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Subject: OT: Scummo is gone
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 06:50:55 +1000
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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sat, 21 May 2022 20:50 UTC

How good is that?

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From: me...@home.com (Noddy)
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Subject: Re: OT: Scummo is gone
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 09:31:45 +1000
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 by: Noddy - Sat, 21 May 2022 23:31 UTC

On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> How good is that?

Fan-fuckg-tastic.

Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery. Handing it
over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it *all* up.

Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

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From: fel...@invalid.com (Yosemite Sam)
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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 22 May 2022 01:44 UTC

On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> How good is that?

time will tell. how strong will he be on defence? how will he handle
China's growing influence? "by 1990 no child will live in poverty"-
Hawke. fail. "there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"-
Gillard. fail. "bringing all Australians together" -Albanese. or just
empowering minorities and a radical socialist agenda? will we all be
better off and in four years? time will tell.

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https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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From: use...@account.invalid (keithr0)
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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 22 May 2022 01:53 UTC

On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> How good is that?

Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will move
to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.

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From: xenol...@optusnet.com.au (Xeno)
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 by: Xeno - Sun, 22 May 2022 02:01 UTC

On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> How good is that?
>
> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will move
> to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.

Yes, that detail was mentioned in the washup last night.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 22 May 2022 02:03 UTC

On 22/05/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> How good is that?
>
> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will
> move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.

that was the Teal's agenda

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FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 02:04 UTC

On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> How good is that?
>
> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will move
> to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.

Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that there
was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat but with a
reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be taken for
granted anymore.

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Daryl

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 by: John_H - Sun, 22 May 2022 02:13 UTC

Noddy wrote:
>On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> How good is that?
>
>Fan-fuckg-tastic.
>
>Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery. Handing it
>over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it *all* up.

Monkey pox upon both their houses! :)

>Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)

Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
*We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
public servants).
*Diplomatic relations with China will improve (slightly).
*The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
return to Biloela.

What won't change for the better....
*The climate, which will continue to change irrespective of what they
do and, unfortunately, none of 'em have any effective policies for
mitigating the effects already upon us.
*The national debt (already the highest since the end of WW2).

What won't change at all....
*The rising cost of living.
*Housing affordability.
*An acute shortage of skilled labour.
*Our defence capability.
*Chinese expansion in the South Pacific.
*The filthy rich will continue to get richer and any attempts to
thwart them will hit the rest of us instead.
*Etc, etc.

--
John H

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 02:31 UTC

On 22/05/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> How good is that?
>
> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will move
> to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.

I wouldn't get too excited just yet, as the "victory" is far from certain.

Despite the victory celebrations on the "red" side of the house, at the
last check of a few moments ago Labor was still 5 seats short of
outright victory with 13 seats still undecided. With the Libs securing
52 seats the only certainly is that they *cannot* win even if they
secure every one of the remaining seats still to be decided.

But Labor's fortunes are less certain.

As it stands this morning it is highly unlikely that Labor won't take
government, but it remains to be seen if it will be a Majority or a
Minority rule. If they win the necessary seats out of the remaining
undecided 13 then they're home and hosed, but if they don't then
Albanese will be forced to enter into a minority government seal with
independents or minor parties, and if he does this then his very first
act as PM will be to go back on a pledge of doing something he said he
wouldn't actually do.

I expect that the victory celebrations indicate that he's already made
his mind up to do so despite claiming he wouldn't :)

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 03:50 UTC

On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> How good is that?
>>
>> Fan-fuckg-tastic.
>>
>> Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery. Handing it
>> over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it *all* up.
>
> Monkey pox upon both their houses! :)
>
>> Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)
>
> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
> public servants).

Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
watchdog than the libs were.

> *Diplomatic relations with China will improve (slightly).

Perhaps, although I saw something this morning that said Penny Wong was
tipped to be Foreign Minister, and she's made some pretty strong anti
Chinese government comments in the past.

> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
> return to Biloela.

And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
playing the media off to their advantage.

> What won't change for the better....
> *The climate, which will continue to change irrespective of what they
> do and, unfortunately, none of 'em have any effective policies for
> mitigating the effects already upon us.

Agreed.

> *The national debt (already the highest since the end of WW2).

Yep. It's all down hill from here folks.

> What won't change at all....
> *The rising cost of living.
> *Housing affordability.
> *An acute shortage of skilled labour.
> *Our defence capability.
> *Chinese expansion in the South Pacific.
> *The filthy rich will continue to get richer and any attempts to
> thwart them will hit the rest of us instead.
> *Etc, etc.

Absolutely.

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 22 May 2022 04:49 UTC

On 22/5/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> How good is that?
>>>
>>> Fan-fuckg-tastic.
>>>
>>> Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery. Handing it
>>> over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it *all* up.
>>
>> Monkey pox upon both their houses!  :)
>>
>>> Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)
>>
>> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
>> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
>> public servants).
>
> Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
> happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
> watchdog than the libs were.

Labor was very much in favour of an ICAC with teeth. The Morrison
proposal had no teeth and so was *rejected* by Labor.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/fact-check-what-did-morrison-say-about-a-federal-icac-20220415-p5adq9.html

Legal and public accountability experts were scathing. The Centre for
Public Integrity found the proposed agency would be “the weakest
integrity commission in the country”, leaving a raft of political
scandals relating to the abuse of public office free from scrutiny.

Labor was also critical. It claimed the proposed agency would be so weak
it would be unable to commence its own independent inquiries into
government corruption, prevented from holding public hearings into
politicians or public servants and banned from investigating multiple
past political scandals.

>
>> *Diplomatic relations with China will improve (slightly).
>
> Perhaps, although I saw something this morning that said Penny Wong was
> tipped to be Foreign Minister, and she's made some pretty strong anti
> Chinese government comments in the past.

She is half Malaysian Chinese. She would have a better idea than most of
what the CCP actually is and a far better understanding of the culture
that drives it.
>
>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>> return to Biloela.
>
> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
> playing the media off to their advantage.
>
>> What won't change for the better....
>> *The climate, which will continue to change irrespective of what they
>> do and, unfortunately, none of 'em have any effective policies for
>> mitigating the effects already upon us.
>
> Agreed.
>
>> *The national debt (already the highest since the end of WW2).
>
> Yep. It's all down hill from here folks.

And your mates the Libs got us here.
>
>> What won't change at all....
>> *The rising cost of living.
>> *Housing affordability.
>> *An acute shortage of skilled labour.
>> *Our defence capability.
>> *Chinese expansion in the South Pacific.
>> *The filthy rich will continue to get richer and any attempts to
>> thwart them will hit the rest of us instead.
>> *Etc, etc.
>
> Absolutely.
>
>
>

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: John_H - Sun, 22 May 2022 04:57 UTC

Noddy wrote:
>On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
>
>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>> return to Biloela.
>
>And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
>They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
>playing the media off to their advantage.

Not so. They were genuine refugees when they came here and were
provided with visas as such. When their visas ran out the situation
in Sri Lanka had changed and Tamils were no longer being persecuted
(according to the government). In fact they were being compulsorily
re-educated (as the Chinese do with Uyghurs).

It's the Biloela community who've supported them and maintained media
attention.

Sri Lanka has recently become an economic disaster and I wouldn't wish
the place on anyone apart from its own corrupt politicians... or a few
of ours if it was possible to export them!

--
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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sun, 22 May 2022 05:20 UTC

On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> How good is that?
>>>
>>> Fan-fuckg-tastic.
>>>
>>> Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery. Handing it
>>> over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it *all* up.
>>
>> Monkey pox upon both their houses!  :)
>>
>>> Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)
>>
>> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
>> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
>> public servants).
>
> Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
> happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
> watchdog than the libs were.

**That's not what they said. You're just making shit up. If Labor fails
to bring about a Federal ICAC, we boot them out. Eventually, politicians
will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's why
Scummo lost his. He failed us. Multiple times.

>
>> *Diplomatic relations with China will improve (slightly).
>
> Perhaps, although I saw something this morning that said Penny Wong was
> tipped to be Foreign Minister, and she's made some pretty strong anti
> Chinese government comments in the past.
>
>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>> return to Biloela.
>
> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
> playing the media off to their advantage.

**You're both ignorant and completely heartless:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Tamils

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/26/tamils-fear-prison-and-torture-in-sri-lanka-13-years-after-civil-war-ended

https://www.mondaq.com/human-rights/1069294/the-continuing-tamil-genocide-in-sri-lanka-an-interview-with-trc-spokesperson-charanja-thavendran

>
>> What won't change for the better....
>> *The climate, which will continue to change irrespective of what they
>> do and, unfortunately, none of 'em have any effective policies for
>> mitigating the effects already upon us.
>
> Agreed.
>
>> *The national debt (already the highest since the end of WW2).
>
> Yep. It's all down hill from here folks.

**Taxes will rise.

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:19 UTC

On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> How good is that?

nomo scomo

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FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: lindsay - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:19 UTC

On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> How good is that?
>>
>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will
>> move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>
> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that there
> was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat but with a
> reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be taken for
> granted anymore.

Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around. Just
for something to do, mind you.

My only concerns are

1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt light
the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china remove a pic
of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He got trolled bad
there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his guns when china
handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be friends with a
bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out again...)

2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead, if the Labor
party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I can still hear
Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing her Karate chop in
the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would leave us defenceless.

3: I've yet to see what Labours defence policy looks like. Did they
offer bipartisan support for AUKUS, and the purchase of nuclear powered
subs?

Or the Greens defence policy, for that matter. Trev?

As you can see Australia's defence means a lot to me, coz without it,
the rest of the crap is moot.

I'm not interested in female quotas in politics, I'm not interested
foreign ministers who says " I'd make a great foreign minister, because
I have cred" (in debate with Marise Payne) apparently because she's of
asian decent gives her that "cred" , because I'm fucked if i know how
you get "cred" as a *shadow* foreign minister doing fuck all ...!)

I'm only interested in things that matter to me and mine. Fair chance
Australia will be at war with china within 10 years, if not earlier.
Depending if Albo and Wong turfs our alliance with USA. He does that?
Were sitting ducks. If china invade Taiwan, and USA backs them, so will
we, as the terms of our alliance. We dont? No alliance, and we're next.
It will all end in tears.. :-)

>

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 06:34 UTC

On 22/5/2022 3:20 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> How good is that?
>>>>
>>>> Fan-fuckg-tastic.
>>>>
>>>> Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery. Handing it
>>>> over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it *all*
>>>> up.
>>>
>>> Monkey pox upon both their houses!  :)
>>>
>>>> Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)
>>>
>>> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
>>> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
>>> public servants).
>>
>> Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
>> happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
>> watchdog than the libs were.
>
> **That's not what they said.

You should know what politicians say and do aren't always the same.

You're just making shit up.

More like reading between the lines.

If Labor fails
> to bring about a Federal ICAC, we boot them out.

Which takes at least 3yrs and assumes that most voters think that an
ICAC is a major issue so its not a given.

Eventually, politicians
> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's why
> Scummo lost his. He failed us.

Us, don't you mean you?
You main gripe seems to be Aged Care and Labor has promised that each
facility with have a nurse on duty 24/7 but they didn't say where they
were going to get these nurses from, are they going to pluck them out of
the sky?
There is a worldwide shortage of medical staff due to Covid so I don't
see that promise being full filled anytime soon.

Multiple times.

Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
Hint it wasn't Labor who came third behind the "others".
Of course that has nothing to do with the result but what it does tell
is more peoples first choice was Liberal so the majority disagree with you.

--
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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 22 May 2022 07:02 UTC

On 22/05/2022 4:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> How good is that?
>>>
>>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will
>>> move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>>
>> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that
>> there was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat but
>> with a reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be taken
>> for granted anymore.
>
> Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
> actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around.
> Just for something to do, mind you.
>
> My only concerns are
>
> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt light
> the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china remove a pic
> of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He got trolled
> bad there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his guns when
> china handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be friends
> with a bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out again...)
>
> 2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead,

we need a nuclear sub NOW. lease one from the yanks

> if the Labor party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I
> can still hear Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing
> her Karate chop in the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would
> leave us defenceless.
>
> 3: I've yet to see what Labours defence policy looks like. Did they
> offer bipartisan support for AUKUS, and the purchase of nuclear
> powered subs?
>
> Or the Greens defence policy, for that matter. Trev?
>
> As you can see Australia's defence means a lot to me, coz without it,
> the rest of the crap is moot.

exactly

>
> I'm not interested in female quotas in politics, I'm not interested
> foreign ministers who says " I'd make a great foreign minister,
> because I have cred" (in debate with Marise Payne) apparently because
> she's of asian decent gives her that "cred" , because I'm fucked if i
> know how you get "cred" as a *shadow* foreign minister doing fuck all
> ...!)
>
> I'm only interested in things that matter to me and mine.  Fair chance
> Australia will be at war with china within 10 years, if not earlier.
> Depending if Albo and Wong turfs our alliance with USA. He does that?
> Were sitting ducks. If china invade Taiwan, and USA backs them, so
> will we, as the terms of our alliance. We dont? No alliance, and we're
> next.
> It will all end in tears.. :-)
>
>

yes

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 07:20 UTC

On 22/05/2022 3:20 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:

>>> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
>>> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
>>> public servants).
>>
>> Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
>> happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
>> watchdog than the libs were.
>
> **That's not what they said.

Of *course* it's not what they said. They used it as a political
football once the election campaign was up and running, but prior to
that they did jack shit to pressure the government to get it up and running.

> You're just making shit up. If Labor fails
> to bring about a Federal ICAC, we boot them out. Eventually, politicians
> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's why
> Scummo lost his. He failed us. Multiple times.

ROTFL :)

Given that the current system has been in place for many, many years
now, how long do you think it will be before they actually "start
learning"?

Political integrity seems to be getting *worse* with each new
government. Not better.

>> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
>> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
>> playing the media off to their advantage.
>
> **You're both ignorant and completely heartless:

Spare me the bleeding heart bullshit Trevor. We are not the world's
gathering point for every wannabee "refugee" who simply just wants to
live in a nicer country than their own.

>>> *The national debt (already the highest since the end of WW2).
>>
>> Yep. It's all down hill from here folks.
>
> **Taxes will rise.

A great many things will likely get more expensive, and not necessarily
for the better. If "Albo" keeps his word on things like raising wages
and kick starting a manufacturing base in this country then you can
comfortably bet your left nut that we will be in for a very interesting
time, and I'm sure the Reserve Bank will think so too.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 22 May 2022 07:24 UTC

On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>> return to Biloela.
>
> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
> playing the media off to their advantage.

They are the sort of people that we need, they're far better that a
whole bunch that get in legally.

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 07:43 UTC

On 22/5/2022 4:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> How good is that?
>>>
>>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will
>>> move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>>
>> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that
>> there was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat but
>> with a reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be taken
>> for granted anymore.
>
> Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
> actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around. Just
> for something to do, mind you.
>
> My only concerns are
>
> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt light
> the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china remove a pic
> of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He got trolled bad
> there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his guns when china
> handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be friends with a
> bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out again...)
>
> 2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead, if the Labor
> party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I can still hear
> Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing her Karate chop in
> the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would leave us defenceless.
>
> 3: I've yet to see what Labours defence policy looks like. Did they
> offer bipartisan support for AUKUS, and the purchase of nuclear powered
> subs?

Not seen a specific mention of the subs or AUKUS but their defence
policy is pretty the same as the Coalition.
>
> Or the Greens defence policy, for that matter. Trev?
>
> As you can see Australia's defence means a lot to me, coz without it,
> the rest of the crap is moot.
>
> I'm not interested in female quotas in politics, I'm not interested
> foreign ministers who says " I'd make a great foreign minister, because
> I have cred" (in debate with Marise Payne) apparently because she's of
> asian decent gives her that "cred" , because I'm fucked if i know how
> you get "cred" as a *shadow* foreign minister doing fuck all ...!)
>
> I'm only interested in things that matter to me and mine.  Fair chance
> Australia will be at war with china within 10 years, if not earlier.

Can't see that happening simply because its not in their best interest.

> Depending if Albo and Wong turfs our alliance with USA.

Very unlikely that they will do anything like that.

He does that?
> Were sitting ducks. If china invade Taiwan, and USA backs them, so will
> we, as the terms of our alliance. We dont? No alliance, and we're next.
> It will all end in tears.. :-)
>

Hopefully China will be observing events in Ukraine and will see how
that is not going well for Russia, even if Russia eventually manages to
take over Ukraine their economy will be screwed and the rest of the
world will isolate them sending them back to the dark ages.
China's economy relies heavily on international trade, if that ceased
due to a major war most of their population would revert back to being
poor angry unhappy peasants which won't go well for their Govt.

--
Daryl

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 07:59 UTC

On 22/5/2022 5:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 3:20 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
>
>>>> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
>>>> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
>>>> public servants).
>>>
>>> Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
>>> happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
>>> watchdog than the libs were.
>>
>> **That's not what they said.
>
> Of *course* it's not what they said. They used it as a political
> football once the election campaign was up and running, but prior to
> that they did jack shit to pressure the government to get it up and
> running.
>
>> You're just making shit up. If Labor fails to bring about a Federal
>> ICAC, we boot them out. Eventually, politicians will learn that, when
>> they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's why Scummo lost his. He
>> failed us. Multiple times.
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> Given that the current system has been in place for many, many years
> now, how long do you think it will be before they actually "start
> learning"?
>
> Political integrity seems to be getting *worse* with each new
> government. Not better.
>
>>> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
>>> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
>>> playing the media off to their advantage.
>>
>> **You're both ignorant and completely heartless:
>
> Spare me the bleeding heart bullshit Trevor. We are not the world's
> gathering point for every wannabee "refugee" who simply just wants to
> live in a nicer country than their own.

I've not really followed their story closely but if the Biloela
community are happy to support them then I don't have a problem with
them staying.
Its certainly an unusual case with the 2 children being born in Qld.
To me a child born in Australia is Australian regardless of their
parents nationality although I know that that might not be how the law
looks at it.

--
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 by: lindsay - Sun, 22 May 2022 08:37 UTC

On 22/05/2022 5:02 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 4:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> How good is that?
>>>>
>>>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will
>>>> move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>>>
>>> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that
>>> there was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat but
>>> with a reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be taken
>>> for granted anymore.
>>
>> Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
>> actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around.
>> Just for something to do, mind you.
>>
>> My only concerns are
>>
>> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt light
>> the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china remove a pic
>> of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He got trolled
>> bad there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his guns when
>> china handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be friends
>> with a bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out again...)
>>
>> 2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead,
>
>
> we need a nuclear sub NOW. lease one from the yanks

We will need more than one, and I'll bet we will lease 6 Los Angeles
class boats from the yanks. All service, maintenance, and armament done
by the yanks. As it should be. Announcement before the end of the year.
IMHO Depending on the new Govt and their stance.

The Yanks are retiring/mothballing their fleet of Los Angeles class subs
and upgrading to Virginia class...

I'll be happy with leasing LA class until our new boats
(Viginia?/Astute?) turn up. Either way, french diesel electric subs
with lead-acid battery's (FFS! 1940's tech!) are no good to Australia.
Yes, the Collins class are one of the worlds best diesel elec boats,
atm, BUT they have very poor endurance. A few other reasons to go LA
class as well.

And for all the squealing about ship building, wether ship, or sub....

This may be a bit harsh, but fuck all this crap about building ships and
subs in South Australia. Or WA. Or NSW...

FFS, just buy the BEST available instead of being a try-hard.

Australia just built a new class of Destroyer. 3 x Hobart class. Called
an "Air warfare destroyer" Great. Can throw it's weight around. Except
it's main armament is the Mk 41 VLS (vertical launch system), can launch
a total of 48 air-air, air-ground missiles, and then it's out of the
fight. Cant defend itself as such.

The new chinese destroyers have double.... a 96 cell missile launch
system, so they are in the fight twice as long punch wise. and are
pumping them out one per year, from multiple shipyards.

And we keep squealing about jobs for shipyards. Maybe better using steel
(mayde here at some stage!) to make some decent tanks and ground defence
gear...

>> if the Labor party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I
>> can still hear Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing
>> her Karate chop in the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would
>> leave us defenceless.
>>
>> 3: I've yet to see what Labours defence policy looks like. Did they
>> offer bipartisan support for AUKUS, and the purchase of nuclear
>> powered subs?
>>
>> Or the Greens defence policy, for that matter. Trev?
>>
>> As you can see Australia's defence means a lot to me, coz without it,
>> the rest of the crap is moot.
>
>
> exactly
>
>
>>
>> I'm not interested in female quotas in politics, I'm not interested
>> foreign ministers who says " I'd make a great foreign minister,
>> because I have cred" (in debate with Marise Payne) apparently because
>> she's of asian decent gives her that "cred" , because I'm fucked if i
>> know how you get "cred" as a *shadow* foreign minister doing fuck all
>> ...!)
>>
>> I'm only interested in things that matter to me and mine.  Fair chance
>> Australia will be at war with china within 10 years, if not earlier.
>> Depending if Albo and Wong turfs our alliance with USA. He does that?
>> Were sitting ducks. If china invade Taiwan, and USA backs them, so
>> will we, as the terms of our alliance. We dont? No alliance, and we're
>> next.
>> It will all end in tears.. :-)
>>
>>
>
> yes
>
>

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sun, 22 May 2022 09:05 UTC

On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 3:20 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> How good is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fan-fuckg-tastic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery.
>>>>> Handing it
>>>>> over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it
>>>>> *all* up.
>>>>
>>>> Monkey pox upon both their houses!  :)
>>>>
>>>>> Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)
>>>>
>>>> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
>>>> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
>>>> public servants).
>>>
>>> Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
>>> happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
>>> watchdog than the libs were.
>>
>> **That's not what they said.
>
> You should know what politicians say and do aren't always the same.

**They need to be taught. Just like any child. They fuck up - they lose
their job. Simples.

>
>  You're just making shit up.
>
> More like reading between the lines.
>
> If Labor fails
>> to bring about a Federal ICAC, we boot them out.
>
> Which takes at least 3yrs and assumes that most voters think that an
> ICAC is a major issue so its not a given.

**A Federal ICAC was one of the big reasons, voters cited. Along with
dealing with global warming.

>
>  Eventually, politicians
>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>
> Us, don't you mean you?

**ALL of us.

> You main gripe seems to be Aged Care and Labor has promised that each
> facility with have a nurse on duty 24/7 but they didn't say where they
> were going to get these nurses from, are they going to pluck them out of
> the sky?

**My main gripes are:

* Lack of real action on dealing with climate change.
* A lack of a promised Federal ICAC.

> There is a worldwide shortage of medical staff due to Covid so I don't
> see that promise being full filled anytime soon.
>
>  Multiple times.
>
> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?

**Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.

> Hint it wasn't Labor who came third behind the "others".
> Of course that has nothing to do with the result but what it does tell
> is more peoples first choice was Liberal so the majority disagree with you.

**Liberal? Or Liberal AND Nationals? It's not one party you know. It's a
coalition of two parties.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sun, 22 May 2022 09:06 UTC

On 22/05/2022 5:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>>> return to Biloela.
>>
>> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
>> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
>> playing the media off to their advantage.
>
> They are the sort of people that we need, they're far better that a
> whole bunch that get in legally.

**Agreed.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 10:18 UTC

On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:

>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>
>> Us, don't you mean you?
>
> **ALL of us.

You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have failed
you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.

>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>
> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.

No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?

There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they *don't*
want it to go).

>> Hint it wasn't Labor who came third behind the "others".
>> Of course that has nothing to do with the result but what it does tell
>> is more peoples first choice was Liberal so the majority disagree with
>> you.
>
> **Liberal? Or Liberal AND Nationals? It's not one party you know. It's a
> coalition of two parties.

So what?

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