Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 2 October 2022 at 16:56:56 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 1 October 2022 at 10:28:21 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, 30 September 2022 at 09:33:55 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 17:27:39 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 09:08:14 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 at 23:04:21 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 at 20:16:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 22:35:11 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 14:45:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 September 2022 at 16:46:15 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Head Injuries Are the Biggest Problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed they are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trips and falls around the home are the biggest cause of head injuries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they kill almost as many as there are road deaths. What’s your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no simple solution. The majority of road deaths from head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> injuries occur within motor vehicles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cite the authoritative data…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do your own research.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so mandatory driving helmets would seem the obvious solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately this would make motorists feel safer and they would take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more risks which would cause more pedestrian and cycle deaths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would….would…would…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No speculation there, then. 🙄
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homeostasis of risk is well documented.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don’t seem to be able to grasp when you are making speculative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assertions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are asserting there is no such thing as homeostasis of risk? Can you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide evidence to support this?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And how does using the word ‘would’ four times in two short sentences
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide sound support for your statement about risk taking?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you still in denial about risk compensation?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time for mandatory House Helmets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can point to who we have killed but to none we have saved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like cycle helmets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoosh…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed you do seem to have trouble grasping the simple concept that it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible to prove a cycle helmet saved a life. There are far too many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples of cycle helmets not saving lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is so breathtakingly ignorant it isn’t worthy of comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide evidence from the peer reviewed literature where it has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been conclusively proven a cycle helmet has saved a life.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you’re playing the fool.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you cite a case where it was proven a cycle helmet saved a life or not?
>>>>>>>>>> Let me ask you a question. It is this: Why do cyclists demand that
>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure be installed to meet their needs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The infrastructure for pedestrians, equestrians and cyclists is already
>>>>>>>>> in place, they are called roads. Unfortunately freeloading motorists use
>>>>>>>>> their vehicles as weapons to scare primary road users into submission.
>>>>>>>>> Ask yourself this: You are walking on a footway and you have to pass a
>>>>>>>>> side turning are you willing to assert your right of way over a turning
>>>>>>>>> motor vehicle knowing you will come off worse?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whatever had that got to do with anything?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That should be obvious to anyone with an IQ greater than a turnip.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Put those goalposts back where you found them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They were missing, you seem to have them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still waiting for that cite of a case where a cycle helmet has been
>>>>>>> proven to save a life.
>>>>>> I’m waiting for anyone to cite a case where a
>>>>>>> covid jab has been proven to
>>>>>> save a life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Spike
>>>>> Does anyone know if speed limits apply to goalposts?
>>>> We know who we have killed, but we cannot point to a single one who was
>>>> saved by moving the goalposts.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Spike
>>>
>>> Thank you for proving my point.
>>
>>> We can show cases where a cycle helmet has not saved a life but cannot
>>> prove a cycle helmet has ever saved a life.
>> At last!
>
> Um, you were the one arguing in favour of cycle helmets, not me.
You seem to have snipped something.

--
Spike

On Sunday, 2 October 2022 at 22:25:28 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 2 October 2022 at 16:56:56 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 1 October 2022 at 10:28:21 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, 30 September 2022 at 09:33:55 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 17:27:39 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 09:08:14 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 at 23:04:21 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 at 20:16:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 22:35:11 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 14:45:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 September 2022 at 16:46:15 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Head Injuries Are the Biggest Problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed they are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trips and falls around the home are the biggest cause of head injuries.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they kill almost as many as there are road deaths. What’s your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no simple solution. The majority of road deaths from head
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> injuries occur within motor vehicles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cite the authoritative data…
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do your own research.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so mandatory driving helmets would seem the obvious solution.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately this would make motorists feel safer and they would take
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more risks which would cause more pedestrian and cycle deaths
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would….would…would…
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No speculation there, then. 🙄
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homeostasis of risk is well documented.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don’t seem to be able to grasp when you are making speculative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assertions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are asserting there is no such thing as homeostasis of risk? Can you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide evidence to support this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And how does using the word ‘would’ four times in two short sentences
> >>>>>>>>>>>> provide sound support for your statement about risk taking?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you still in denial about risk compensation?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time for mandatory House Helmets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can point to who we have killed but to none we have saved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like cycle helmets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoosh…
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed you do seem to have trouble grasping the simple concept that it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible to prove a cycle helmet saved a life. There are far too many
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples of cycle helmets not saving lives.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is so breathtakingly ignorant it isn’t worthy of comment.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide evidence from the peer reviewed literature where it has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> been conclusively proven a cycle helmet has saved a life.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now you’re playing the fool.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you cite a case where it was proven a cycle helmet saved a life or not?
> >>>>>>>>>> Let me ask you a question. It is this: Why do cyclists demand that
> >>>>>>>>>> infrastructure be installed to meet their needs?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The infrastructure for pedestrians, equestrians and cyclists is already
> >>>>>>>>> in place, they are called roads. Unfortunately freeloading motorists use
> >>>>>>>>> their vehicles as weapons to scare primary road users into submission.
> >>>>>>>>> Ask yourself this: You are walking on a footway and you have to pass a
> >>>>>>>>> side turning are you willing to assert your right of way over a turning
> >>>>>>>>> motor vehicle knowing you will come off worse?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Whatever had that got to do with anything?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That should be obvious to anyone with an IQ greater than a turnip..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Put those goalposts back where you found them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They were missing, you seem to have them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Still waiting for that cite of a case where a cycle helmet has been
> >>>>>>> proven to save a life.
> >>>>>> I’m waiting for anyone to cite a case where a
> >>>>>>> covid jab has been proven to
> >>>>>> save a life.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Spike
> >>>>> Does anyone know if speed limits apply to goalposts?
> >>>> We know who we have killed, but we cannot point to a single one who was
> >>>> saved by moving the goalposts.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Spike
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for proving my point.
> >>
> >>> We can show cases where a cycle helmet has not saved a life but cannot
> >>> prove a cycle helmet has ever saved a life.
> >> At last!
> >
> > Um, you were the one arguing in favour of cycle helmets, not me.
> You seem to have snipped something.
>
>
>
> --
> Spike