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* OT: Scummo is goneTrevor Wilson
+* OT: Scummo is goneNoddy
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Re: OT: Scummo is gone

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 10:20 UTC

On 22/05/2022 5:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 5:20 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> Spare me the bleeding heart bullshit Trevor. We are not the world's
>> gathering point for every wannabee "refugee" who simply just wants to
>> live in a nicer country than their own.
>
> I've not really followed their story closely but if the Biloela
> community are happy to support them then I don't have a problem with
> them staying.

So let the Biloela community support them :)

> Its certainly an unusual case with the 2 children being born in Qld.
> To me a child born in Australia is Australian regardless of their
> parents nationality although I know that that might not be how the law
> looks at it.

And I think that's exactly what the parents were thinking which is why
they elected to have children here in the first place.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 10:21 UTC

On 22/05/2022 5:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>>> return to Biloela.
>>
>> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
>> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
>> playing the media off to their advantage.
>
> They are the sort of people that we need, they're far better that a
> whole bunch that get in legally.

Why's that?

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 10:34 UTC

On 22/5/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>
>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>
>> **ALL of us.
>
> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have failed
> you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>
>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>
>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>
> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>
> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they *don't*
> want it to go).
>

Very much agree, you can usually find the information if you go looking
but its far from obvious and since preferences are what decides an
election it should be compulsory to declare that information.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 10:57 UTC

On 22/05/2022 4:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> How good is that?
>>>
>>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party
>>> will move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>>
>> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that
>> there was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat
>> but with a reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be
>> taken for granted anymore.
>
> Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
> actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around.
> Just for something to do, mind you.

Best news of the lot in my opinion is that ugly fat ranting cunt Craig
Kelly will not only *not* be our next Prime Minister, but he's lost his
seat as well.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving pig-eyed sack of shit.

> My only concerns are
>
> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt
> light the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china
> remove a pic of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He
> got trolled bad there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his
> guns when china handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be
> friends with a bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out
> again...)

Hopefully you're on the improve.

Difficult to say how Albanese will do with foreign issues, as I get the
feeling he is seen as "weak". I dunno about China, but I read a report
on my phone this afternoon that people smugglers in Indonesia are
already selling places on boats to Australia.

> 2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead, if the Labor
> party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I can still
> hear Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing her Karate
> chop in the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would leave us
> defenceless.

Their own (Greens) defence policy is absolutely fucking useless, and I
don't think they'd be in favour of continuing the AUKUS agreement any
time soon. Fortunately for Albanese he will most likely have his pick of
who he needs to side with to form a minority Government, and hopefully
the Greens get left holding the baby.

> 3: I've yet to see what Labours defence policy looks like. Did they
> offer bipartisan support for AUKUS, and the purchase of nuclear
> powered subs?

Labor has supported the agreement, but Penny Wong has been overly
critical of the deal claiming that it's a threat to Australia's
"independence". I'm fucked if I know how buying a bunch of submarines
from countries we've been allied with for decades and who we've bought
military hardware from *many* times before could actually do that, but
apparently that's her position and it's one that's not exactly clear.

Whether she continues to hold that view on becoming foreign minister or
whether she changes her tune remains to be seen.

> Or the Greens defence policy, for that matter. Trev?

I'm not speaking for Trevor, but this is taken directly from their
"platform" web page, and lists the proposed defence policies that they
took to the election:

[quote]

> Renegotiate the US alliance to secure a new relationship focused on
> making us a better global citizen

> Pass War Powers legislation to ensure governments can’t send us to war
> without Parliamentary approval

> Close all military bases that foreign militaries have set up
> in this country

> Sign and ratify the Nuclear Weapons Ban Treaty

> Ban the development and use of Lethal Autonomous Weapons in line with the
> international campaign ‘Stop Killer Robots’

> Reduce military spending to 1.5 % of GDP by buying fewer guns and tanks,
> and ensuring that we have a light, readily deployable and highly mobile force
> that meets the needs of our place in the world

> Increase oversight of defence procurement by establishing a Parliamentary
> Defence Office to provide independent advice to Members of Parliament.

[end quote]

They advertise these defence policy measures as a downloadable PDF under
the
heading of "Peace, Disarmament, and Demilitarisation"

I think that pretty much tells you how royally fucked we would all be if
they have any say in how this country goes about defending itself.

> As you can see Australia's defence means a lot to me, coz without it,
> the rest of the crap is moot.

Indeed.

> I'm not interested in female quotas in politics, I'm not interested
> foreign ministers who says " I'd make a great foreign minister,
> because I have cred" (in debate with Marise Payne) apparently because
> she's of asian decent gives her that "cred" , because I'm fucked if i
> know how you get "cred" as a *shadow* foreign minister doing fuck all
> ...!)

Lol :)

Agreed 100%

> I'm only interested in things that matter to me and mine. Fair
> chance Australia will be at war with china within 10 years, if not
> earlier. Depending if Albo and Wong turfs our alliance with USA. He
> does that? Were sitting ducks. If china invade Taiwan, and USA backs
> them, so will we, as the terms of our alliance. We dont? No alliance,
> and we're next. It will all end in tears.. :-)

It absolutely will, and we have a choice to make. Hopefully the people
in power take the "soft cock" option and leave us all standing here with
our dicks in the wind.

Personally if I was Prime Minister I'd be asking the Yanks if we could
do a "fleet" deal on all the B-52's currently sitting in the Arizona
aircraft boneyard, and if it wasn't too much trouble if they could ship
them all here with a 40 megatonne load in each one. I'd then set them on
patrols 2 hours from targets inside China, and once they were holding at
their failsafe points I'd issue them with a Wing Attack Plan R order :)

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 11:02 UTC

On 22/5/2022 8:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 5:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/5/2022 5:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Spare me the bleeding heart bullshit Trevor. We are not the world's
>>> gathering point for every wannabee "refugee" who simply just wants to
>>> live in a nicer country than their own.
>>
>> I've not really followed their story closely but if the Biloela
>> community are happy to support them then I don't have a problem with
>> them staying.
>
> So let the Biloela community support them :)

From what I've read that's exactly what they are doing.
Lots of small towns are desperate for workers so I doubt that they will
have any trouble getting jobs.

>
>> Its certainly an unusual case with the 2 children being born in Qld.
>> To me a child born in Australia is Australian regardless of their
>> parents nationality although I know that that might not be how the law
>> looks at it.
>
> And I think that's exactly what the parents were thinking which is why
> they elected to have children here in the first place.
>

I think that I read that the couple meet in Australia, its possible that
they had children to improve their chances of staying, only they would
know that.
What annoys me about the whole saga is the time its taken the Fed Govt
to get their shit together, I think they first arrived 22yrs ago,
something is very screwed up if the Govt can't make a decision one way
or the other in 22yrs.
People shouldn't be kept locked up or kept in limbo for very long
periods, the Govt should make a decision to either let them stay or
deport them within no more than 2yrs, it really can't be that hard.

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 11:14 UTC

On 22/5/2022 8:57 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 4:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> How good is that?
>>>>
>>>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party
>>>> will move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>>>
>>> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that
>>> there was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat
>>> but with a reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be
>>> taken for granted anymore.
>>
>> Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
>> actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around.
>> Just for something to do, mind you.
>
> Best news of the lot in my opinion is that ugly fat ranting cunt Craig
> Kelly will not only *not* be our next Prime Minister, but he's lost his
> seat as well.
>
> Couldn't happen to a more deserving pig-eyed sack of shit.
>
>> My only concerns are
>>
>> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt
>> light the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china
>> remove a pic of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He
>> got trolled bad there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his
>> guns when china handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be
>> friends with a bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out
>> again...)
>
> Hopefully you're on the improve.
>
> Difficult to say how Albanese will do with foreign issues, as I get the
> feeling he is seen as "weak". I dunno about China, but I read a report
> on my phone this afternoon that people smugglers in Indonesia are
> already selling places on boats to Australia.
>
>> 2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead, if the Labor
>> party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I can still
>> hear Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing her Karate
>> chop in the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would leave us
>> defenceless.
>
> Their own (Greens) defence policy is absolutely fucking useless, and I
> don't think they'd be in favour of continuing the AUKUS agreement any
> time soon. Fortunately for Albanese he will most likely have his pick of
> who he needs to side with to form a minority Government, and hopefully
> the Greens get left holding the baby.

I just read this quote from a Liberal Senator on the ABC News website.

"Liberal frontbencher Anne Ruston was the manager of government business
in the Senate and played a crucial role in crossbench negotiations
during the last term of parliament.

Speaking on Saturday night, she said the Greens' wins could prompt Labor
and the Coalition to negotiate more around policies.

"What it may actually deliver, though, is the fact that the two major
parties may just have to start working a little more closely together to
get sensible policy because I don't think Australians necessarily would
like to see some of the policies of the Greens put into place by the
Labor Party," she said.

"I think there is going to have to be a … new relationship between the
two major parties to make sure we do get sensible policy, because we can
get some pretty crazy policy if you're relying on the Greens to support
Labor."

Very interesting:-)

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:00 UTC

On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> How good is that?
>>
>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will
>> move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>
> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that there
> was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat but with a
> reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be taken for
> granted anymore.

Hopefully.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:04 UTC

On 22/05/2022 8:21 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 5:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>>>> return to Biloela.
>>>
>>> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri Lanka.
>>> They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very successful at
>>> playing the media off to their advantage.
>>
>> They are the sort of people that we need, they're far better that a
>> whole bunch that get in legally.
>
> Why's that?

Before Spud spent $24M to put them in prison, they had integrated into a
country community and were doing useful work.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:05 UTC

On 22/05/2022 9:14 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 8:57 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 4:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> How good is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party
>>>>> will move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>>>>
>>>> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that
>>>> there was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat
>>>> but with a reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be
>>>> taken for granted anymore.
>>>
>>> Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
>>> actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around.
>>> Just for something to do, mind you.
>>
>> Best news of the lot in my opinion is that ugly fat ranting cunt Craig
>> Kelly will not only *not* be our next Prime Minister, but he's lost his
>> seat as well.
>>
>> Couldn't happen to a more deserving pig-eyed sack of shit.
>>
>>> My only concerns are
>>>
>>> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt
>>> light the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china
>>> remove a pic of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He
>>> got trolled bad there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his
>>> guns when china handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be
>>> friends with a bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out
>>> again...)
>>
>> Hopefully you're on the improve.
>>
>> Difficult to say how Albanese will do with foreign issues, as I get the
>> feeling he is seen as "weak". I dunno about China, but I read a report
>> on my phone this afternoon that people smugglers in Indonesia are
>> already selling places on boats to Australia.
>>
>>> 2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead, if the Labor
>>> party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I can still
>>> hear Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing her Karate
>>> chop in the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would leave us
>>> defenceless.
>>
>> Their own (Greens) defence policy is absolutely fucking useless, and I
>> don't think they'd be in favour of continuing the AUKUS agreement any
>> time soon. Fortunately for Albanese he will most likely have his pick of
>> who he needs to side with to form a minority Government, and hopefully
>> the Greens get left holding the baby.
>
> I just read this quote from a Liberal Senator on the ABC News website.
>
> "Liberal frontbencher Anne Ruston was the manager of government business
> in the Senate and played a crucial role in crossbench negotiations
> during the last term of parliament.
>
> Speaking on Saturday night, she said the Greens' wins could prompt Labor
> and the Coalition to negotiate more around policies.
>
> "What it may actually deliver, though, is the fact that the two major
> parties may just have to start working a little more closely together to
> get sensible policy because I don't think Australians necessarily would
> like to see some of the policies of the Greens put into place by the
> Labor Party," she said.
>
> "I think there is going to have to be a … new relationship between the
> two major parties to make sure we do get sensible policy, because we can
> get some pretty crazy policy if you're relying on the Greens to support
> Labor."
>
> Very interesting:-)

Sums the Greens up in a nutshell, I think.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:06 UTC

On 22/05/2022 8:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>
>>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>>
>>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>>
>>> **ALL of us.
>>
>> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have
>> failed you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>>
>>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>>
>>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>>
>> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
>> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>>
>> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
>> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
>> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
>> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they
>> *don't* want it to go).
>>
>
> Very much agree, you can usually find the information if you go looking
> but its far from obvious and since preferences are what decides an
> election it should be compulsory to declare that information.

Absolutely.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:07 UTC

On 22/05/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>
>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>
>> **ALL of us.
>
> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have failed
> you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>
>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>
>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>
> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>
> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they *don't*
> want it to go).

You put the preferences not them, you can put them any way you want.

>>> Hint it wasn't Labor who came third behind the "others".
>>> Of course that has nothing to do with the result but what it does
>>> tell is more peoples first choice was Liberal so the majority
>>> disagree with you.
>>
>> **Liberal? Or Liberal AND Nationals? It's not one party you know. It's
>> a coalition of two parties.
>
> So what?
>

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:12 UTC

On 22/05/2022 9:02 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 8:20 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> Its certainly an unusual case with the 2 children being born in Qld.
>>> To me a child born in Australia is Australian regardless of their
>>> parents nationality although I know that that might not be how the
>>> law looks at it.
>>
>> And I think that's exactly what the parents were thinking which is why
>> they elected to have children here in the first place.
>>
>
> I think that I read that the couple meet in Australia, its possible that
> they had children to improve their chances of staying, only they would
> know that.

True, but many probably speculate it :)

> What annoys me about the whole saga is the time its taken the Fed Govt
> to get their shit together, I think they first arrived 22yrs ago,
> something is very screwed up if the Govt can't make a decision one way
> or the other in 22yrs.
> People shouldn't be kept locked up or kept in limbo for very long
> periods, the Govt should make a decision to either let them stay or
> deport them within no more than 2yrs, it really can't be that hard.

Often the length of time taken to finalise cases is a direct result of
the residency applicant's actions. There are *many* avenues open for
appeals and reviews and legal challenges, and each time a new action is
sought their file goes back to the bottom of the pile and they start all
over again.

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Noddy.

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:39 UTC

On 22/05/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>
>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>
>> **ALL of us.
>
> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have
> failed you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>
>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>
>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>
> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>
> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they
> *don't* want it to go).
>
>
>

voters control their preferences

>>> Hint it wasn't Labor who came third behind the "others".
>>> Of course that has nothing to do with the result but what it does
>>> tell is more peoples first choice was Liberal so the majority
>>> disagree with you.
>>
>> **Liberal? Or Liberal AND Nationals? It's not one party you know.
>> It's a coalition of two parties.
>
> So what?
>

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FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:45 UTC

On 22/5/2022 10:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 9:14 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/5/2022 8:57 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 4:19 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 22/5/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> How good is that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party
>>>>>> will move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree not a good result overall but good in my electorate in that
>>>>> there was a 2.8% swing to the Liberals, Labor still won the seat
>>>>> but with a reduced margin which has to be a good thing, we won't be
>>>>> taken for granted anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Same here in Issacs.. 4.5% swing away from Mr Photo-op Dreyfus? May
>>>> actually have to do *something* to earn his keep next time around.
>>>> Just for something to do, mind you.
>>>
>>> Best news of the lot in my opinion is that ugly fat ranting cunt Craig
>>> Kelly will not only *not* be our next Prime Minister, but he's lost his
>>> seat as well.
>>>
>>> Couldn't happen to a more deserving pig-eyed sack of shit.
>>>
>>>> My only concerns are
>>>>
>>>> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt
>>>> light the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china
>>>> remove a pic of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He
>>>> got trolled bad there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his
>>>> guns when china handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be
>>>> friends with a bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out
>>>> again...)
>>>
>>> Hopefully you're on the improve.
>>>
>>> Difficult to say how Albanese will do with foreign issues, as I get the
>>> feeling he is seen as "weak". I dunno about China, but I read a report
>>> on my phone this afternoon that people smugglers in Indonesia are
>>> already selling places on boats to Australia.
>>>
>>>> 2: will the purchase of nuclear powered subs go ahead, if the Labor
>>>> party needs the Green vote to move forward. (shudder: I can still
>>>> hear Juliar spouting that..."Moving forward..." and doing her Karate
>>>> chop in the press gallery) I would imagine the Greens would leave us
>>>> defenceless.
>>>
>>> Their own (Greens) defence policy is absolutely fucking useless, and I
>>> don't think they'd be in favour of continuing the AUKUS agreement any
>>> time soon. Fortunately for Albanese he will most likely have his pick of
>>> who he needs to side with to form a minority Government, and hopefully
>>> the Greens get left holding the baby.
>>
>> I just read this quote from a Liberal Senator on the ABC News website.
>>
>> "Liberal frontbencher Anne Ruston was the manager of government
>> business in the Senate and played a crucial role in crossbench
>> negotiations during the last term of parliament.
>>
>> Speaking on Saturday night, she said the Greens' wins could prompt
>> Labor and the Coalition to negotiate more around policies.
>>
>> "What it may actually deliver, though, is the fact that the two major
>> parties may just have to start working a little more closely together
>> to get sensible policy because I don't think Australians necessarily
>> would like to see some of the policies of the Greens put into place by
>> the Labor Party," she said.
>>
>> "I think there is going to have to be a … new relationship between the
>> two major parties to make sure we do get sensible policy, because we
>> can get some pretty crazy policy if you're relying on the Greens to
>> support Labor."
>>
>> Very interesting:-)
>
> Sums the Greens up in a nutshell, I think.
>
>
>
Certainly an interesting concept, the 2 majors working together to keep
out the Greens and independents.

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:48 UTC

On 22/5/2022 10:07 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>
>>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>>
>>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>>
>>> **ALL of us.
>>
>> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have
>> failed you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>>
>>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>>
>>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>>
>> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
>> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>>
>> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
>> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
>> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
>> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they
>> *don't* want it to go).
>
> You put the preferences not them, you can put them any way you want.

True but who wants to spend the time working it all out.
Even if a reasonable number of people allocate their own preferences its
not going to make much difference if the majority vote following a how
to vote card.

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:50 UTC

On 22/5/2022 10:12 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 9:02 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 22/5/2022 8:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> Its certainly an unusual case with the 2 children being born in Qld.
>>>> To me a child born in Australia is Australian regardless of their
>>>> parents nationality although I know that that might not be how the
>>>> law looks at it.
>>>
>>> And I think that's exactly what the parents were thinking which is
>>> why they elected to have children here in the first place.
>>>
>>
>> I think that I read that the couple meet in Australia, its possible
>> that they had children to improve their chances of staying, only they
>> would know that.
>
> True, but many probably speculate it :)
>
>> What annoys me about the whole saga is the time its taken the Fed Govt
>> to get their shit together, I think they first arrived 22yrs ago,
>> something is very screwed up if the Govt can't make a decision one way
>> or the other in 22yrs.
>> People shouldn't be kept locked up or kept in limbo for very long
>> periods, the Govt should make a decision to either let them stay or
>> deport them within no more than 2yrs, it really can't be that hard.
>
> Often the length of time taken to finalise cases is a direct result of
> the residency applicant's actions. There are *many* avenues open for
> appeals and reviews and legal challenges, and each time a new action is
> sought their file goes back to the bottom of the pile and they start all
> over again.
>
>
>
>
Could be but 22yrs from start to finish is a hell of a long time to sort
it out.

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 22 May 2022 13:10 UTC

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>
>>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>>
>>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>>
>>> **ALL of us.
>>
>> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have failed
>> you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>>
>>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>>
>>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>>
>> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
>> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>>
>> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
>> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
>> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
>> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they *don't*
>> want it to go).
>
> You put the preferences not them, you can put them any way you want.
>
Indeed, that is the case and the AEC ads on tv make that clear. Even a
moron could work out how to do preference to their own liking. No one
forces any voter to follow any party’s how to vote card.

>>>> Hint it wasn't Labor who came third behind the "others".
>>>> Of course that has nothing to do with the result but what it does
>>>> tell is more peoples first choice was Liberal so the majority
>>>> disagree with you.
>>>
>>> **Liberal? Or Liberal AND Nationals? It's not one party you know. It's
>>> a coalition of two parties.
>>
>> So what?
>>
>
>

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 13:11 UTC

On 22/05/2022 10:07 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>
>> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
>> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
>> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
>> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they
>> *don't* want it to go).
>
> You put the preferences not them, you can put them any way you want.

Yes you can, and I always do, but most candidates hand out "how to vote"
pamphlets with people blindly following their preference "advice"
without knowing too much about it other than who they put at "number 1".

The numbers they put on the pamphlets aren't random. That's where they
want your preferences to go, but you don't get to find that out until
polling day.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 13:13 UTC

On 22/05/2022 10:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 8:21 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 5:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> *The Tamil family, who've been persecuted by the Libs for years, will
>>>>> return to Biloela.
>>>>
>>>> And I couldn't care less if they get sent straight back to Sri
>>>> Lanka. They weren't bona fide refugees, and have been very
>>>> successful at playing the media off to their advantage.
>>>
>>> They are the sort of people that we need, they're far better that a
>>> whole bunch that get in legally.
>>
>> Why's that?
>
> Before Spud spent $24M to put them in prison, they had integrated into a
> country community and were doing useful work.

That may be so, but it doesn't answer the question as to why you think
they're "far better than a whole bunch that get in legally" which was
what I was actually asking you.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 22 May 2022 13:13 UTC

On 22/05/2022 10:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 10:05 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> "I think there is going to have to be a … new relationship between
>>> the two major parties to make sure we do get sensible policy, because
>>> we can get some pretty crazy policy if you're relying on the Greens
>>> to support Labor."
>>>
>>> Very interesting:-)
>>
>> Sums the Greens up in a nutshell, I think.
>>
>>
>>
> Certainly an interesting concept, the 2 majors working together to keep
> out the Greens and independents.

Has to be better than the shit we have now.

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 22 May 2022 14:16 UTC

On 22/05/2022 9:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> How good is that?
>
> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will move
> to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.

If they don't learn (and it's unlikely they will under Dutton) they will
get absolutely obliterated at the next election.

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 22 May 2022 14:18 UTC

On 22/05/2022 10:31 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> How good is that?
>>
>> Not all good, it's the moderate Libs that have gone, the party will
>> move to the right probably with "Spud" Dutton as leader.
>
> I wouldn't get too excited just yet, as the "victory" is far from certain.
>
> Despite the victory celebrations on the "red" side of the house, at the
> last check of a few moments ago Labor was still 5 seats short of
> outright victory with 13 seats still undecided.

If you had been paying attention instead of parroting Murdoch rhetoric
you should know that they won't need a majority to form an effective
government.

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 22 May 2022 14:21 UTC

On 22/05/2022 12:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 22/5/2022 1:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 12:13 pm, John_H wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 6:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> How good is that?
>>>>
>>>> Fan-fuckg-tastic.
>>>>
>>>> Just what we need on the back of a strong pandemic recovery. Handing it
>>>> over to Labor so they can pander to the minorities and fuck it *all*
>>>> up.
>>>
>>> Monkey pox upon both their houses!  :)
>>>
>>>> Get back to me in 4 years time and let's see how happy you are then :)
>>>
>>> Sure there'll be mistakes but what will change for the better....
>>> *We'll get an ICAC that can kick the arses of errant politicians (and
>>> public servants).
>>
>> Be good if we do, but I won't get excited about it until it actually
>> happens. I don't think Labor was any more in favor of an integrity
>> watchdog than the libs were.
>
> Labor was very much in favour of an ICAC with teeth. The Morrison
> proposal had no teeth and so was *rejected* by Labor.
>
> https://www.smh.com.au/national/fact-check-what-did-morrison-say-about-a-federal-icac-20220415-p5adq9.html
>

Correct. Morrison tried to spin this as Labor not wanting an ICAC when
the reality is that Morrison tabled an ineffective ICAC that Labor could
not support. Now there will be an effective one much to the chagrin of
the Lieberals.

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 22 May 2022 14:24 UTC

On 22/05/2022 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>
>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>
>> **ALL of us.
>
> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have failed
> you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>
>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>
>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>
> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>
> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they *don't*
> want it to go).
>

You vote but don't even understand how the system works... in which case
you'll always be casting a donkey vote no matter who you vote for.

Dumbass!

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On 22/05/2022 9:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 7:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 22/05/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> will learn that, when they fail us, they lose their job. Easy. It's
>>>>>> why Scummo lost his. He failed us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Us, don't you mean you?
>>>>
>>>> **ALL of us.
>>>
>>> You don't speak for anyone but yourself here Trevor. He may have failed
>>> you, but there are no doubt others who had no problem with him.
>>>
>>>>> Did you happen to notice which party received the most primary votes?
>>>>
>>>> **Doesn't matter. That's not how our electoral system works.
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't, and that's a problem. The person/party that gets the
>>> most votes doesn't necessarily win. Grouse, huh?
>>>
>>> There needs to be a major change to electoral regulations so a
>>> candidate's preferences are *clearly* made known on every bit of
>>> advertising they release. So people will clearly know where their vote
>>> may possibly end up going (and which may be precisely where they *don't*
>>> want it to go).
>>
>> You put the preferences not them, you can put them any way you want.
>>
> Indeed, that is the case and the AEC ads on tv make that clear. Even a
> moron could work out how to do preference to their own liking. No one
> forces any voter to follow any party’s how to vote card.

Something else the moron on the mesa fails to comprehend :-)

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