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 by: Recliner - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:19 UTC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67746931

It should allow the Goole factory to stay open, to assemble the second
batch of Piccadilly line trains. This, presumably, means that the
resignalling project can proceed. It should lead to a more reliable, more
frequent service.

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:25 UTC

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:19:04 GMT
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67746931
>
>It should allow the Goole factory to stay open, to assemble the second
>batch of Piccadilly line trains. This, presumably, means that the
>resignalling project can proceed. It should lead to a more reliable, more
>frequent service.

Can't come soon enough. Until last month I was using the picc one day a
week for the last 6 months and literally one in every 4 journeys had some
kind of non trivial delay. I really got pissed off with having to get up 30
mins earlier just so I could be sure I'd get into the office on time because
those clowns can't run a train service to save their lives.

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 by: Recliner - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:14 UTC

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:25:04 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:19:04 GMT
>Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67746931
>>
>>It should allow the Goole factory to stay open, to assemble the second
>>batch of Piccadilly line trains. This, presumably, means that the
>>resignalling project can proceed. It should lead to a more reliable, more
>>frequent service.
>
>Can't come soon enough. Until last month I was using the picc one day a
>week for the last 6 months and literally one in every 4 journeys had some
>kind of non trivial delay. I really got pissed off with having to get up 30
>mins earlier just so I could be sure I'd get into the office on time because
>those clowns can't run a train service to save their lives.

TfL subsequently said that the £250m was only half of what it had been seeking, so it doesn't look like there's yet a
budget to resignal the Picc.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:14:27 +0000
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:25:04 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:19:04 GMT
>>Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67746931
>>>
>>>It should allow the Goole factory to stay open, to assemble the second
>>>batch of Piccadilly line trains. This, presumably, means that the
>>>resignalling project can proceed. It should lead to a more reliable, more
>>>frequent service.
>>
>>Can't come soon enough. Until last month I was using the picc one day a
>>week for the last 6 months and literally one in every 4 journeys had some
>>kind of non trivial delay. I really got pissed off with having to get up 30
>>mins earlier just so I could be sure I'd get into the office on time because
>>those clowns can't run a train service to save their lives.
>
>TfL subsequently said that the £250m was only half of what it had been
>seeking, so it doesn't look like there's yet a
>budget to resignal the Picc.

Given it goes to the UKs premier airport and is the first impression a lot
of people get of the UK you'd have thought it might have been further up
the priority list.

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Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:14:27 +0000
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > TfL subsequently said that the £250m was only half of what it had
> > been seeking, so it doesn't look like there's yet a
> > budget to resignal the Picc.
>
> Given it goes to the UKs premier airport and is the first
> impression a lot of people get of the UK you'd have thought it
> might have been further up the priority list.

The priority list for the government in 2024 is probably more about
where they can put the money to get the most votes to win the next
election!

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 by: Graeme Wall - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:55 UTC

On 20/12/2023 15:44, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:14:27 +0000
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:25:04 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:19:04 GMT
>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67746931
>>>>
>>>> It should allow the Goole factory to stay open, to assemble the second
>>>> batch of Piccadilly line trains. This, presumably, means that the
>>>> resignalling project can proceed. It should lead to a more reliable, more
>>>> frequent service.
>>>
>>> Can't come soon enough. Until last month I was using the picc one day a
>>> week for the last 6 months and literally one in every 4 journeys had some
>>> kind of non trivial delay. I really got pissed off with having to get up 30
>>> mins earlier just so I could be sure I'd get into the office on time because
>>> those clowns can't run a train service to save their lives.
>>
>> TfL subsequently said that the £250m was only half of what it had been
>> seeking, so it doesn't look like there's yet a
>> budget to resignal the Picc.
>
> Given it goes to the UKs premier airport and is the first impression a lot
> of people get of the UK you'd have thought it might have been further up
> the priority list.
>

Gives them a very good idea of the state of Britain these days.
--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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 by: Recliner - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:44 UTC

Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:14:27 +0000
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> TfL subsequently said that the £250m was only half of what it had
>>> been seeking, so it doesn't look like there's yet a
>>> budget to resignal the Picc.
>>
>> Given it goes to the UKs premier airport and is the first
>> impression a lot of people get of the UK you'd have thought it
>> might have been further up the priority list.
>
> The priority list for the government in 2024 is probably more about
> where they can put the money to get the most votes to win the next
> election!

Yes, no capital investment in any railway project is likely to swing votes
in next year's election. That's why they'd rather put money into quick
return projects, like filling potholes.

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:59 UTC

On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:44:57 GMT
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:14:27 +0000
>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> TfL subsequently said that the £250m was only half of what it had
>>>> been seeking, so it doesn't look like there's yet a
>>>> budget to resignal the Picc.
>>>
>>> Given it goes to the UKs premier airport and is the first
>>> impression a lot of people get of the UK you'd have thought it
>>> might have been further up the priority list.
>>
>> The priority list for the government in 2024 is probably more about
>> where they can put the money to get the most votes to win the next
>> election!
>
>Yes, no capital investment in any railway project is likely to swing votes

I suspect short of Kier Starmer quoting Mein Kampf at PMQs and goose stepping
out of the chamber sieg heiling there's precisely zero that will swing the vote
back towards the tories anytime soon.

>in next year's election. That's why they'd rather put money into quick
>return projects, like filling potholes.

If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of government
support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.

Perhaps HMG could could put a bit more effort into clawing back some money
from scum like Mone and her ilk who ripped off the idiots in the treasury
blind during covid.

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 by: Recliner - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19 UTC

<Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:44:57 GMT
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 15:14:27 +0000
>>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> TfL subsequently said that the £250m was only half of what it had
>>>>> been seeking, so it doesn't look like there's yet a
>>>>> budget to resignal the Picc.
>>>>
>>>> Given it goes to the UKs premier airport and is the first
>>>> impression a lot of people get of the UK you'd have thought it
>>>> might have been further up the priority list.
>>>
>>> The priority list for the government in 2024 is probably more about
>>> where they can put the money to get the most votes to win the next
>>> election!
>>
>> Yes, no capital investment in any railway project is likely to swing votes
>
> I suspect short of Kier Starmer quoting Mein Kampf at PMQs and goose stepping
> out of the chamber sieg heiling there's precisely zero that will swing the vote
> back towards the tories anytime soon.
>
>> in next year's election. That's why they'd rather put money into quick
>> return projects, like filling potholes.
>
> If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of government
> support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/highways-maintenance-funding-allocations/additional-budget-2023-highways-maintenance-and-pothole-repair-funding-2023-to-2024

>
> Perhaps HMG could could put a bit more effort into clawing back some money
> from scum like Mone and her ilk who ripped off the idiots in the treasury
> blind during covid.

I bet those ill-gotten gains are well squirrelled away offshore. The Mone
money is hidden via the IoM.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19:19 GMT
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
><Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>> If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of government
>
>> support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.
>
>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/highways-maintenance-funding-allocat
>ions/additional-budget-2023-highways-maintenance-and-pothole-repair-funding-202
>3-to-2024

Hadn't heard about that. Thats something I suppose.

>> Perhaps HMG could could put a bit more effort into clawing back some money
>> from scum like Mone and her ilk who ripped off the idiots in the treasury
>> blind during covid.
>
>I bet those ill-gotten gains are well squirrelled away offshore. The Mone
>money is hidden via the IoM.

More than likely, but dangling a potential prison sentence unless she coughs
up might make some of the funds (no doubt they've already spent a lot of it)
magically reappear.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19:19 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
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>>
>>> in next year's election. That's why they'd rather put money into quick
>>> return projects, like filling potholes.
>>
>> If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of government
>> support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.
>
>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/highways-maintenance-funding-allocations/additional-budget-2023-highways-maintenance-and-pothole-repair-funding-2023-to-2024
>
Story in today's Guardian that this money has come from the HS2 north
of Birmingham cancellation.

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 by: Recliner - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 14:19 UTC

Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19:19 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>> in next year's election. That's why they'd rather put money into quick
>>>> return projects, like filling potholes.
>>>
>>> If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of government
>>> support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.
>>
>> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/highways-maintenance-funding-allocations/additional-budget-2023-highways-maintenance-and-pothole-repair-funding-2023-to-2024
>>
> Story in today's Guardian that this money has come from the HS2 north
> of Birmingham cancellation.
>

Indirectly, yes. That money has been re-allocated to a variety of
quick-return transport projects around the country. The government sells
this as people all round the country benefiting quickly.

Of course, the money was never in the government's coffers in the first
place — it'll be borrowed.

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 by: Recliner - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 06:16 UTC

<Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19:19 GMT
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>> If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of government
>>
>>> support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.
>>
>> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/highways-maintenance-funding-allocat
>> ions/additional-budget-2023-highways-maintenance-and-pothole-repair-funding-202
>> 3-to-2024
>
> Hadn't heard about that. Thats something I suppose.
>
>>> Perhaps HMG could could put a bit more effort into clawing back some money
>>> from scum like Mone and her ilk who ripped off the idiots in the treasury
>>> blind during covid.
>>
>> I bet those ill-gotten gains are well squirrelled away offshore. The Mone
>> money is hidden via the IoM.
>
> More than likely, but dangling a potential prison sentence unless she coughs
> up might make some of the funds (no doubt they've already spent a lot of it)
> magically reappear.
>

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e935af8c-5c27-46fc-9d61-9bd8f8e093e0?shareToken=5f4b7dafaebef3447bf4e9a97c727114

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 by: Graeme Wall - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 07:48 UTC

On 24/12/2023 06:16, Recliner wrote:
> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19:19 GMT
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of government
>>>
>>>> support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.
>>>
>>> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/highways-maintenance-funding-allocat
>>> ions/additional-budget-2023-highways-maintenance-and-pothole-repair-funding-202
>>> 3-to-2024
>>
>> Hadn't heard about that. Thats something I suppose.
>>
>>>> Perhaps HMG could could put a bit more effort into clawing back some money
>>>> from scum like Mone and her ilk who ripped off the idiots in the treasury
>>>> blind during covid.
>>>
>>> I bet those ill-gotten gains are well squirrelled away offshore. The Mone
>>> money is hidden via the IoM.
>>
>> More than likely, but dangling a potential prison sentence unless she coughs
>> up might make some of the funds (no doubt they've already spent a lot of it)
>> magically reappear.
>>
>
> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e935af8c-5c27-46fc-9d61-9bd8f8e093e0?shareToken=5f4b7dafaebef3447bf4e9a97c727114
>

A tits mogul? Heaven knows what they'd call the M&S knickers maker!
--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:07 UTC

On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 06:16:02 GMT
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
><Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19:19 GMT
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> If only. Councils of all colours are going bankrupt due to lack of
>government
>>>
>>>> support. Potholes are way down their priority list right now.
>>>
>>>
>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/highways-maintenance-funding-allocat
>
>>>
>ions/additional-budget-2023-highways-maintenance-and-pothole-repair-funding-202
>
>>> 3-to-2024
>>
>> Hadn't heard about that. Thats something I suppose.
>>
>>>> Perhaps HMG could could put a bit more effort into clawing back some money
>
>>>> from scum like Mone and her ilk who ripped off the idiots in the treasury
>>>> blind during covid.
>>>
>>> I bet those ill-gotten gains are well squirrelled away offshore. The Mone
>>> money is hidden via the IoM.
>>
>> More than likely, but dangling a potential prison sentence unless she coughs
>> up might make some of the funds (no doubt they've already spent a lot of it)
>
>> magically reappear.
>>
>
>https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e935af8c-5c27-46fc-9d61-9bd8f8e093e0?shareTo
>ken=5f4b7dafaebef3447bf4e9a97c727114

Didn't know Cameron enobled her but it would be far from the first idiotic
decision Tim Nice But Dim Dave has made.


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