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* Brent Cross West station openRecliner
+* Brent Cross West station openBob
|+- Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|`* Brent Cross West station openRecliner
| `* Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|  `* Brent Cross West station openRecliner
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|   ||  `* Brent Cross West station openRecliner
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|   |+* Brent Cross West station openBob
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|   |||`* Brent Cross West station openSam Wilson
|   ||| `- Brent Cross West station openRecliner
|   ||`* Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   || +* Brent Cross West station openBob
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|   || |||||  +- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openSam Wilson
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|   || |||||   `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openBob
|   || |||||    +* what's light rail, .....JMB99
|   || |||||    |`* what's light rail, .....Recliner
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|   || |||||    `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || ||||`* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openJohn Levine
|   || |||| +- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRecliner
|   || |||| `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || ||||  `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openKen
|   || |||`- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRolf Mantel
|   || ||`* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openKen
|   || || +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || |`* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openAndy Burns
|   || || | `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || |  +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openGraeme Wall
|   || || |  |`* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openMark Goodge
|   || || |  | `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || |  +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openKen
|   || || |  |`- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || |  `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openSam Wilson
|   || || |   `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || |    +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openTheo
|   || || |    |+- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openAndy Burns
|   || || |    |`- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || |    `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openMark Goodge
|   || || |     `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || |      `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openMark Goodge
|   || || |       `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || || +- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   || || `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openAnna Noyd-Dryver
|   || ||  +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openGraeme Wall
|   || ||  |`* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openSam Wilson
|   || ||  | `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openGraeme Wall
|   || ||  +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openSam Wilson
|   || ||  |+* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || ||  ||`* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRolf Mantel
|   || ||  || +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || ||  || |`- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openBob
|   || ||  || `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openKen
|   || ||  |`* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openAnna Noyd-Dryver
|   || ||  | `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openBob
|   || ||  `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openKen
|   || ||   `* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || ||    +* what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openSam Wilson
|   || ||    |`- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openRoland Perry
|   || ||    +- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openAnna Noyd-Dryver
|   || ||    `- what's light rail, Brent Cross West station openKen
|   || |`- Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   || `* Brent Cross West station openRoger Lynn
|   ||  +* Brent Cross West station openTweed
|   ||  |+- Brent Cross West station openSam Wilson
|   ||  |`* Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   ||  | `* Brent Cross West station openRecliner
|   ||  |  `- Brent Cross West station openCharles Ellson
|   ||  `* Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   ||   +* Brent Cross West station openCertes
|   ||   |+- Brent Cross West station openCharles Ellson
|   ||   |`- Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   ||   `* Brent Cross West station openTweed
|   ||    `* Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   ||     `* Brent Cross West station openBob
|   ||      +- Brent Cross West station openMuttley
|   ||      `- Brent Cross West station openGraeme Wall
|   |`- Brent Cross West station openArthur Figgis
|   `* Brent Cross West station openBob
|    `- Brent Cross West station openRecliner
`* Brent Cross West station openLew1
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Re: Brent Cross West station open

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From: theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
Newsgroups: uk.transport.london,uk.railway
Subject: Re: Brent Cross West station open
Date: 19 Dec 2023 17:08:17 +0000 (GMT)
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 by: Theo - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:08 UTC

In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
> > it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
> > 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
> > Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
> > Brent Cross Town development.
> >
> > Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
> >
> > It allseems quite impressive.
>
> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>
> A change in policy, or an oversight..?

I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?

Theo

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 by: Recliner - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:12 UTC

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
>>> it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
>>> 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
>>> Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
>>> Brent Cross Town development.
>>>
>>> Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
>>>
>>> It allseems quite impressive.
>>
>> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
>> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
>> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>>
>> A change in policy, or an oversight..?
>
> I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
> they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
> regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
> and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?

Exactly. They can open the upstairs barriers in such circumstances.

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 by: Anna Noyd-Dryver - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 03:36 UTC

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
>>> it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
>>> 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
>>> Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
>>> Brent Cross Town development.
>>>
>>> Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
>>>
>>> It allseems quite impressive.
>>
>> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
>> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
>> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>>
>> A change in policy, or an oversight..?
>
> I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
> they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
> regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
> and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?
>
>

That hasn't prevented the installation of fences at GWML stations - the
large gates in them are opened by station staff when a train requires to
call on the main lines.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

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 by: Graeme Wall - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 09:18 UTC

On 20/12/2023 03:36, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
>>>> it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
>>>> 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
>>>> Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
>>>> Brent Cross Town development.
>>>>
>>>> Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
>>>>
>>>> It allseems quite impressive.
>>>
>>> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
>>> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
>>> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>>>
>>> A change in policy, or an oversight..?
>>
>> I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
>> they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
>> regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
>> and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?
>>
>>
>
> That hasn't prevented the installation of fences at GWML stations - the
> large gates in them are opened by station staff when a train requires to
> call on the main lines.
>

Similarly, SWR have one at Wimbledon.

--
Graeme Wall
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