Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> "Fire or fumes: One theory is that transporting lithium-ion
>>>>>>>> batteries
>>>>>>>> could have caused the fire. These batteries, which are used in
>>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>>> phones and laptops may have exploded or have been set alight.

> Can't be that because if that had been what happened, a fire
> would have been automatically reported by the system which
> reports serious faults automatically back to base.

The ACARS system. And that can't have been taken out by a fire because
it would have reported the fire before the fire could have taken it out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACARS

> And the pilots would have done a mayday call too.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:49:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> "Fire or fumes: One theory is that transporting lithium-ion
>>>>>>>>> batteries
>>>>>>>>> could have caused the fire. These batteries, which are used in
>>>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>>>> phones and laptops may have exploded or have been set alight.
>
>> Can't be that because if that had been what happened, a fire
>> would have been automatically reported by the system which
>> reports serious faults automatically back to base.
>
>The ACARS system. And that can't have been taken out by a fire because
>it would have reported the fire before the fire could have taken it out.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACARS
>
Britannica is much more informative IMO
<https://www.britannica.com/event/Malaysia-Airlines-flight-370-disappearance/Possible-causes-of-the-aircrafts-disappearance>
https://t.ly/deZNJ
Possible causes of the aircraft’s disappearance
In the weeks following flight 370’s disappearance, theories ranged
from mechanical failure to pilot suicide. The loss of the ACARS and
transponder signals spurred ongoing speculation about some form of
hijacking, but no individual or group claimed responsibility, and it
seemed unlikely that hijackers would have flown the plane to the
southern Indian Ocean.
>
No evidence MH370 came from "Jindalee Over The Horizon Radar"
Which can see and identify Aircraft and type from Bejing, China'
Pine Gab listening station, can hear any communication from the Indian
ocean also.
So evidence is MH370 just did not make it to the Indian Ocean!
However a number of witness saw a fire ball off the Vietnamese Coast.
After that evidence turns to unseen speculation and theories based on
technocratic electronic static.
<https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1149176/mh370-news-malaysia-airlines-plane-south-china-sea-flight-370-vietnam-spt>
https://t.ly/Z_3DJ
Malaysia Airlines flight 370 was en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing
when it disappeared along with its 227 passengers and 12 crew members.
In the immediate aftermath of the news, a flood of potential sightings
were reported including that of a potential crash site in the South
China Sea.T
>
>> And the pilots would have done a mayday call too.
>
If your and others arse was on fire options are to get craft to go up
or make a mayday?
--
Petzl
Former U.S. Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton
10 wars no charges.
Former President Donald Trump no wars, 78 charges?

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> "Fire or fumes: One theory is that transporting lithium-ion
>>>>>>>>>> batteries
>>>>>>>>>> could have caused the fire. These batteries, which are used in
>>>>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>>>>> phones and laptops may have exploded or have been set alight.

>>> Can't be that because if that had been what happened, a fire
>>> would have been automatically reported by the system which
>>> reports serious faults automatically back to base.

>> The ACARS system. And that can't have been taken out by a fire because
>> it would have reported the fire before the fire could have taken it out.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACARS

> Britannica is much more informative IMO

You are wrong, as always.

> <https://www.britannica.com/event/Malaysia-Airlines-flight-370-disappearance/Possible-causes-of-the-aircrafts-disappearance>
> https://t.ly/deZNJ
> Possible causes of the aircraft’s disappearance
> In the weeks following flight 370’s disappearance, theories ranged
> from mechanical failure to pilot suicide. The loss of the ACARS and
> transponder signals spurred ongoing speculation about some form of
> hijacking, but no individual or group claimed responsibility, and it
> seemed unlikely that hijackers would have flown the plane to the
> southern Indian Ocean.

Yes, but obviously there is a real incentive for a suicider
to try to make the plane invisible so that the wife and
family would get the full payout for the loss of the plane.

> No evidence MH370 came from "Jindalee Over The Horizon Radar"
> Which can see and identify Aircraft and type from Bejing, China'

That last is a pig ignorant lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JORS.svg

> Pine Gab listening station, can hear anycommunication from the Indian
> ocean also.

Wrong, as always.

> So evidence is MH370 just did not make it to the Indian Ocean!

Wrong with the bits of the plane ending up on
african beaches in the southern indian ocean and
the inmarinsat pings which both show that it did.

> However a number of witness saw a fire ball off the Vietnamese Coast.

How odd that the Malaysian military radar show that MH370
crossed Malaysia at a very low level to avoid the normal
radar and then headed off to the southern indian ocean.

> After that evidence turns to unseen speculation andtheories based on
> technocratic electronic static.

More of your mindless bullshit.

> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1149176/mh370-news-malaysia-airlines-plane-south-china-sea-flight-370-vietnam-spt>
> https://t.ly/Z_3DJ

Just another shitrag.

> Malaysia Airlines flight 370 was en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing
> when it disappeared along with its 227 passengers and 12 crew members.

> In the immediate aftermath of the news, a flood of potential sightings

There was never ever any FLOOD. Just 3 in fact.

> were reported including that of a potentialcrash site in the South
> China Sea.

And we know what happened given the 20 bits of the plane that
ended up on african beaches in the southern indian ocean and
we know that is where it ended up from the inmarinsat pings

>>> And the pilots would have done a mayday call too.

> If your and others arse was on fire options areto get craft to go up or
> make a mayday?

Perfectly possible to do both given that there
is no access by the crew to where the freight is.

And pity that the ACARS would have automatically reported
the fire if some arsehole had not chosen to turn it off.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:08:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> If your and others arse was on fire options areto get craft to go up or
>> make a mayday?
>
>Perfectly possible to do both given that there
>is no access by the crew to where the freight is.
>
>And pity that the ACARS would have automatically reported
>the fire if some arsehole had not chosen to turn it off.
>
Heat from the fire caused the circuit breakers for the transponders
and communications radios to trip, and drove the pilots from the
cockpit. The fire eventually caused a breach in the pressure vessel,
and the airplane depressurized. Through all this, the autopilot
remained functional. The pilots, who were injured, could not make the
airplane descend to a survivable altitude, but they were able to aim
the airplane south over the ocean. Then, they succumbed to hypoxia.
--
Petzl
IF YOU DON'T STOP LYING
YOU'LL GROW UP TO BE A FACT-CHECKER FOR FACEBOOK

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> If your and others arse was on fire optionsare to get craft to go up
>>> or make a mayday?

>> Perfectly possible to do both given that there
>> is no access by the crew to where the freight is.

And even you should have noticed that
there might be more than one pilot.

>> And pity that the ACARS would have automatically reported
>> the fire if some arsehole had not chosen to turn it off.

> Heat from the fire caused the circuit breakers for thetransponders and
> communications radios to trip,

That never happens instantly, fool.

And ACARS isnt a transponder or communications radio,
you pig ignorant clown. And have fun explaining why that
didnt take out the SND too.

> and drove the pilots from the cockpit.

Have fun explaining how someone managed to do a 180
in the souch china sea and then managed to fly the aircraft
at a very low level over Malaysia to avoid the normal radar
and then return to cruising altitude so that it had enough
range to end up in the southern indian ocean 6 hours later.

> The fire eventually caused a breach in the pressurevessel, and the
> airplane depressurized.

Doesnt matter when you are at a very low level over
Malaysia to avoid being seen by the normal radar.

> Through all this, the autopilot remained functional.

No autopilot can do all those heading and altitude changes
by itself, you pig ignorant clown. In spades with the return
to normal cruise altitude so that it had the range to end up
in the southern indian ocean 5 hours later.

> The pilots, who were injured, could not makethe airplane descend to a
> survivable altitude,

Have fun explaining how they managed to fly back
over Malaysia at a very low level to avoid the normal
radar but were still observed to have done that by
the Malaysian military radar.

> but they were able to aim the airplane south overthe ocean. Then, they
> succumbed to hypoxia.

You don't have a fucking clue about
heavys or anything else at all, either

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> If your and others arse was on fire options are toget craft to go up
>>> or make a mayday?

>> Perfectly possible to do both given that there
>> is no access by the crew to where the freight is.

>> And pity that the ACARS would have automatically reported
>> the fire if some arsehole had not chosen to turn it off.

> Heat from the fire caused the circuit breakers for the transponders
> and communications radios to trip, and drove the pilots from the
> cockpit. The fire eventually caused a breach in the pressure vessel,
> and the airplane depressurized. Through all this, the autopilot
> remained functional. The pilots, who were injured, could not make the
> airplane descend to a survivable altitude, but they were able to aim
> the airplane south over the ocean. Then, they succumbed to hypoxia.

If that was what happened, it would have been visible on normal
radar as it came back over Malaysia and it was in fact only visible
flying at a VERY LOW LEVEL on Malaysian military radar. And we
know that it later returned to normal cruise altitude once well into
the indian ocean because otherwise it would not have had the fuel
to end up in the southern indian ocean where we know it ditched
because that is where the 20 bits ended up on african beaches.

You don't have a fucking clue.