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* G MailDavid Kennedy
+* Re: G MailTheo
|`* Re: G MailDavid Kennedy
| `- Re: G MailSara Merriman
+* Re: G Mailnospam
|`* Re: G MailDavid Kennedy
| +* Re: G MailLiz Tuddenham
| |`- Re: G MailDavid Kennedy
| `- Re: G MailMark
+* Re: G MailRay
|`- Re: G MailJoerg Lorenz
`* Re: G MailJoerg Lorenz
 `- Re: G MailDavid Kennedy

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Subject: G Mail
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 by: David Kennedy - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 20:25 UTC

I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
please don't say Google?
And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
Is there some reference for this?

David Kennedy

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From: theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
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Subject: Re: G Mail
Date: 05 Apr 2023 21:54:46 +0100 (BST)
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 by: Theo - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 20:54 UTC

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
> please don't say Google?
> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
> Is there some reference for this?

Do you want a free service? As they say, if you aren't paying for it you're
the product...

I use Mythic Beasts (UK) and Fastmail (not UK but GDPR compliant), which are
both good and reliable, but not free.

Theo

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 by: nospam - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 20:59 UTC

In article <OvKdnfV2d_q1RLD5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, David
Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
> please don't say Google?

google :)

> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.

does it have to be uk based? fastmail is based in australia and highly
regarded. there are many others. are there any specific features that
you (or the person who asked you) want?

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 by: David Kennedy - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 06:31 UTC

On 05/04/2023 21:59, nospam wrote:
> In article <OvKdnfV2d_q1RLD5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, David
> Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
>> please don't say Google?
>
> google :)
>
Well, I'm using Google but that's a legacy thing. PlusNet have never been that
good with email and I chose the easy route 15 years ago and have just chugged
along with it since.

>> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
>> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
>
> does it have to be uk based? fastmail is based in australia and highly
> regarded. there are many others. are there any specific features that
> you (or the person who asked you) want?
>
Not sure, simply repeating the question. Personally I have no knowledge of how
good or bad these services are and a quick search (Google) revealed 20
different opinions in as many results.

I'm not even sure how you would score an email provider? Storage, reliability,
security, what order do you place them in?

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 by: David Kennedy - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 06:33 UTC

On 05/04/2023 21:54, Theo wrote:
> David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
>> please don't say Google?
>> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
>> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
>> Is there some reference for this?
>
> Do you want a free service? As they say, if you aren't paying for it you're
> the product...
>
That is becoming increasingly more obvious though so people _should_ know by now.

> I use Mythic Beasts (UK) and Fastmail (not UK but GDPR compliant), which are
> both good and reliable, but not free.
>
> Theo
>

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 by: Sara Merriman - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 08:39 UTC

On 6 Apr 2023 at 07:33:45 BST, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 05/04/2023 21:54, Theo wrote:
>> David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
>>> please don't say Google?
>>> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
>>> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
>>> Is there some reference for this?
>>
>> Do you want a free service? As they say, if you aren't paying for it you're
>> the product...
>>
> That is becoming increasingly more obvious though so people _should_ know by
> now.
>
>> I use Mythic Beasts (UK) and Fastmail (not UK but GDPR compliant), which are
>> both good and reliable, but not free.
>>
>> Theo
>>

I use A&A - been with them for years, never had a problem. Also not free, but
not exactly expensive.
--
Billy is silly

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 by: Liz Tuddenham - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 09:02 UTC

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]
> Well, I'm using Google but that's a legacy thing. PlusNet have never been that
> good with email

I've been using Plusnet's cheapest tariff for aboput 10 years (no longer
available to new users) and it has been fairly trouble-free apart from
Plusnet being black-listed by some ISPs for a while last year.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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 by: David Kennedy - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 09:22 UTC

On 06/04/2023 10:02, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>> Well, I'm using Google but that's a legacy thing. PlusNet have never been that
>> good with email
>
> I've been using Plusnet's cheapest tariff for aboput 10 years (no longer
> available to new users) and it has been fairly trouble-free apart from
> Plusnet being black-listed by some ISPs for a while last year.
>
>
I gave up with them years ago when there were frequent* problems.

* really frequent.

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 by: Mark - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 10:42 UTC

On 2023-04-06 06:31:58 +0000, David Kennedy said:

> On 05/04/2023 21:59, nospam wrote:
>> In article <OvKdnfV2d_q1RLD5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, David
>> Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
>>> please don't say Google?
>>
>> google :)
>>
> Well, I'm using Google but that's a legacy thing. PlusNet have never
> been that good with email and I chose the easy route 15 years ago and
> have just chugged along with it since.
>
>>> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
>>> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
>>
>> does it have to be uk based? fastmail is based in australia and highly
>> regarded. there are many others. are there any specific features that
>> you (or the person who asked you) want?
>>
> Not sure, simply repeating the question. Personally I have no knowledge
> of how good or bad these services are and a quick search (Google)
> revealed 20 different opinions in as many results.
>
> I'm not even sure how you would score an email provider? Storage,
> reliability, security, what order do you place them in?

Longevity would be near the top I imagine.
--
Cheers ... Mark

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 by: Ray - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:10 UTC

On 5 Apr 2023 at 21:25:12 BST, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
> please don't say Google?
> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
> Is there some reference for this?
>
> David Kennedy

I've been using gmx.com for a number of years. Free email is very reliable and
largely spam free.
Not UK based though, GMX is part of 1&1and is based in Germany.
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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 06:38 UTC

Am 06.04.23 um 17:10 schrieb Ray:
> On 5 Apr 2023 at 21:25:12 BST, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
>> please don't say Google?
>> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
>> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
>> Is there some reference for this?
>>
>> David Kennedy
>
> I've been using gmx.com for a number of years. Free email is very reliable and
> largely spam free.
> Not UK based though, GMX is part of 1&1and is based in Germany.

I use GMX for more than 20years. It even beats my top notch hoster
Hostpoint in Switzerland. GMX is reliable and offers very powerful
features like real filtering and more. Even encrypted messages can be
sent over the web interface for those who need it. Even the use of a
CalDAV-Server is free.

I would never trust a supplier in the five-eyes countries. Never. The
Continent has a completely different privacy and data protection culture.

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 06:41 UTC

Am 05.04.23 um 22:25 schrieb David Kennedy:
> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
> please don't say Google?
> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
> Is there some reference for this?

https://www.gmx.com/
See my comments in the thread.

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 by: David Kennedy - Tue, 11 Apr 2023 07:25 UTC

On 07/04/2023 07:41, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 05.04.23 um 22:25 schrieb David Kennedy:
>> I was asked today if there is a good reliable UK based email service and
>> please don't say Google?
>> And, I had no real answer. Obviously there are many other services but how
>> good and how reliable I have absolutely no idea.
>> Is there some reference for this?
>
> https://www.gmx.com/
> See my comments in the thread.
>
Thanks for all the replies. Food for thought, I'll pass it along and I'll be
doing some investigating myself once I recover from the Easter deluge...

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