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|   |   |      |   +* Re: Obsessed much?Daryl
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Re: Obsessed much?

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Subject: Re: Obsessed much?
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 17:10:39 +1000
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 by: alvey - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:10 UTC

On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 14:57:51 +1000, Daryl wrote:

>
> Not likely same or less money, an F truck of the same year in mint show
> condition would have cost him a lot more.

That's appropriate.
The F wit has an F truck...

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:12 UTC

On 17/6/2022 4:55 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:58:56 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 17/06/2022 11:40 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 14/06/2022 11:42 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>>>> People write code and share it freely for others to use at their
>>>>>> will. Just like people who distribute open source or freeware
>>>>>> programs do. How the hell does using something like that make one a
>>>>>> "parasite"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're off your nut :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh no! noddy's making sense again. he must be unwell!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not as unwell as keith, he's completely lost his mind!
>>>>
>>> Gaslighting much?
>>
>> Seriously Keith, you are not helping yourself one single bit here.
>
> Behavioural advice from one of the great hypocrites of our times.
> Magic.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
Yes indeed, an odd phenomenon. Are the planets aligning by any chance?
Perhaps a *huge* meteor is heading to earth at this very moment?

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 by: alvey - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:14 UTC

On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 16:10:44 +1000, Noddy wrote:

>
> You apparently like challenges, Keith, so go ahead. Look around. Come up
> with some examples of where I could have done better. I'll get my cheque
> book out. Shit, I'll even pay you 5% commission on every one you can find.

Don't be silly Fraudster.
Deryl would be the only person here who'd take a cheque from you.

alvey
"cheque book"? Who still uses cheque books?

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 by: alvey - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:20 UTC

On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:15:57 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 17/06/2022 6:25 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 19:55:30 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/06/2022 6:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>> On 15/06/2022 9:37 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 15/06/2022 8:09 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/06/2022 2:14 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and his fearsome and fearless Knight, Sir Linsey the Loon, dons his
>>>>>>> rusty armor and prances out to do battle with anyone who approaches
>>>>>>> while muttering incoherently about wingless planes and air coolers.
>>>>>> And this is *the* FLC. In spades,, Here we have Spazpecker the Dull,
>>>>>> mindless dribbling shit to the FLC, because he needs to be loved. A
>>>>>> Lick lick here, a lick lick there, the odd "+1", a "you nailed it" a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> muttering incoherently about wingless planes and air coolers.
>>>>>> Gee, poor old Fetid Felix is STILL butt-hurt because I showed him to
>>>>>> be the cretin he is, multiple times. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wanna try again, Spazpecker? Happy to pick up from where *YOU* ran
>>>>>> away squealing like a virgin that had just been rogered in the wrong
>>>>>> hole, because you'd been shown to be wrong, and cant admit it, like
>>>>>> Tommy The Spineless..  Pick one Air coolers or one winged planes...
>>>>>> Your call...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And please, dont go with your usual run away line that your too
>>>>>> intelligent to argue with a bogan. It's a poor excuse, when you've
>>>>>> been shown to be a liar, hypocrite and cretin. Stand up for
>>>>>> yourself, and admit your failures. Unlike the FLC.
>>>>>>
>>>>> sorry, i don't deal with trash. the garbage man does that
>>>> Annnnd there it is, Folks. How fucking predictable. You've done your
>>>> usual, one wing man. Fetid likes to shoot his mouth off, hurling his
>>>> insults, and runs away as per usual. You're pathetic, Felix. Truly
>>>> fucking pathetic.
>>>>
>>>> You're as bad as Tomas Clasener. Spineless.
>>>>
>>> the simple reality is only an idiot such as you would expect a
>>> response to insults, abuse, trash talk and criticism. you really are stupid.
>> That's a superfluous statement. It's not possible to be a Fraudster enabler
>> otherwise. Being yapping mad is another qualification.
>>
>
> yes indeed. but I guess it helps to remind ppl of the truth
>

All they had to do was read Loonseys post for that.
Like, you're "spineless" and "pathetic" because you "...shoot his mouth
off, hurling his insults, and runs away as per usual", and yet Loons hasn't
a bad word to say about his mate the Fraudster who does the same * many.
Nutbaggery of the finest quality.

alvey

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:20 UTC

On 17/06/2022 9:40 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 14/06/2022 11:42 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 14/06/2022 7:51 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 14/06/2022 7:44 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 7:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 5:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW if you think that loading somebody elses code into the
>>>>>>>>> flash memory of an arduino or any other micro controller is
>>>>>>>>> programming it then you've failed Basic Computing 101.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you think Arduino is a difficult language to follow it
>>>>>>>> doesn't say much for your programming ability.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did you get that idea from? So tell us how much Arduino
>>>>>>> code that you have written.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About 2 lines, which is all I ever needed to do. I used programme
>>>>>> code that someone else had written and uploaded to a shared
>>>>>> library, and modified it for my own personal requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>
>>>>> As long as you don't mind being a parasite, no problem at all I
>>>>> suppose.
>>>>
>>>> What the hell are you talking about? :)
>>>>
>>>> People write code and share it freely for others to use at their
>>>> will. Just like people who distribute open source or freeware
>>>> programs do. How the hell does using something like that make one a
>>>> "parasite"?
>>>>
>>>> You're off your nut :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh no! noddy's making sense again. he must be unwell!
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not as unwell as keith, he's completely lost his mind!
>>
> Gaslighting much?

There is no 'gaslighting' at all, you're simply being irrational and
absurd and it's right there for all to read.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
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it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:28 UTC

On 17/06/2022 9:43 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 14/06/2022 11:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 14/06/2022 3:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2022 9:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 13/06/2022 7:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 13/06/2022 5:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW if you think that loading somebody elses code into the flash
>>>>>>> memory of an arduino or any other micro controller is programming
>>>>>>> it then you've failed Basic Computing 101.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think Arduino is a difficult language to follow it doesn't
>>>>>> say much for your programming ability.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you get that idea from? So tell us how much Arduino code
>>>>> that you have written.
>>>>
>>>> About 2 lines, which is all I ever needed to do. I used programme
>>>> code that someone else had written and uploaded to a shared library,
>>>> and modified it for my own personal requirements.
>>>>
>>>> So what?
>>>
>>> As long as you don't mind being a parasite, no problem at all I suppose.
>>
>>
>>
>> People sharing code freely in communities aren't "parasites".
>> You've lost the fucking plot you silly old prick.
>> .
> People freely sharing obviously aren't, it's those that just take their
> work and give nothing back that are. Either, due to your obession,
> you've lost the fucking plot you silly old prick or you are being
> willfully ignorant.

What a load of absurd and disconnected gibberish.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
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it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:03 UTC

On 17/06/2022 5:10 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 14:57:51 +1000, Daryl wrote:
>
>
>> Not likely same or less money, an F truck of the same year in mint show
>> condition would have cost him a lot more.
> That's appropriate.
> The F wit has an F truck...
>

LOL

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

"So some infantile nonsense and running away again
I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

"once again the dickhead in Coward Castle snipes from behind his
killfile which is all he's capable of doing" -felix on noddy

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:54 UTC

On 17/06/2022 11:47 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 14/06/2022 7:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 14/06/2022 3:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 13/06/2022 7:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 13/06/2022 7:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:24:27 clocky continued his unsuccessful
>>>>> attempts at gaslighting
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>  >Since I still write software, it follows that I am still very
>>>>> capable  >of  both logical and abstract thought.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>
>>>>> What, you copy and paste code into a Sketch in Arduino, select the
>>>>> libraries to include, modify it a bit and hit program.
>>>>>
>>>>> Literally anyone can do that.
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> That ain't programming, it's the action of a script kiddy. Script
>>>>> kiddies are parasites who take the work of people more talented,
>>>>> and give nothing back. It's just monkey see monkey do.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to do
>>>> a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste wasn't
>>>> around in your day :)
>>>
>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more interesting
>>> than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that is all you can
>>> manage then that's what you have to be content with. Do you get some
>>> sense of achievement copying other peoples work into the flash memory
>>> of and Arduino then?
>>>
>>
>> The sense of achievement is the working *project* that the Arduino
>> plays a part in. Programming shit the hard way for the sake of
>> programming is as boring as it is pointless.
>
> Of course, you are warping the argument, when I pointed out that I
> couldn't be losing my marbles because I still wrote software, you
> replied that programming is easy, you just copy some code off the
> internet, and burn into an Arduino, totally neglecting the fact that
> somebody had to have written the code in the first place. That is what
> programming is, not copying and burning.
>

That's not the process I described.

>> Just take that blaster project of NoddyLiars... what would have been
>> the point of programming an Arduino the hard way from scratch and
>> delaying the completion of the project when the aim was to have a
>> working blast cabinet?
>
> So he took somebody elses work, and used it to avoid having to pay for
> something to do the job. What did he give back, nothing, probably didn't
> even thank the guy for his efforts. I seem to remember, when he posted
> about having built the water blaster, your reply was so what, you just
> copied it off the internet. You're having a bob each way here.
>

That's all speculation on your part. Of course NoddyLiar copied the
design, blind Freddy could see that. Nevertheless he used the process I
described, as do many others, and got it working.

>> He asked the bloke on youtube who's project he cloned for his code and
>> all he had to do is program it into his Arduino and presumably it all
>> works now. Why on earth would he fuck about trying to code something
>> himself when all he wants is to blast stuff clean?
>>
>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every situation
>>>> or are their occasions where you have to refer to documentation that
>>>> explains the process?
>>>
>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>
>>
>> I suppose it doesn't really matter what goes where when you're bolting
>> garden art together...
>>
> Interesting, you have complained long and hard about abuse from noddy,
> but here you are quoting his words. Hypocrite much?

LOL, it's deliberate you dullard, I'm taking the piss.

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keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
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it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 01:28 UTC

On 17/06/2022 11:55 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to do
>>>> a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste wasn't
>>>> around in your day :)
>>>
>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more interesting
>>> than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that is all you can
>>> manage then that's what you have to be content with. Do you get some
>>> sense of achievement copying other peoples work into the flash memory
>>> of and Arduino then?
>>
>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to get
>> the job done.
>>
>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>
> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck, when
> you could have bought a far better one for the same or less money, and
> zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you enjoy doing it,
> same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball around a paddock with a
> stick, and I enjoy the challenge of creating software and fixing up old
> aircraft.
>

That's fine for you, but you are berating others who are completing
projects using freely available tools that people are willing to share
as 'parasites'.

That's where your arguement falls over completely.

....and you have form berating and belittling people for their interests
and hobbies.

>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every situation
>>>> or are their occasions where you have to refer to documentation that
>>>> explains the process?
>>>
>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>
>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>
>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>
> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would be
> pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we had one,
> would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123 revision 6,
> something which we don't have and are never likely to have. So we just
> work it out for ourselves.
>

Uhuh, so you never use any external resources to get the job done?

I call bullshit on that.

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keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
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it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 01:36 UTC

On 17/06/2022 2:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to
>>>>>> do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste
>>>>>> wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that
>>>>> is all you can manage then that's what you have to be content with.
>>>>> Do you get some sense of achievement copying other peoples work
>>>>> into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>
>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to get
>>>> the job done.
>>>>
>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>
>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of creating
>>> software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>
>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every
>>>>>> situation or are their occasions where you have to refer to
>>>>>> documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>
>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>
>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>
>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would be
>>> pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we had
>>> one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123 revision 6,
>>> something which we don't have and are never likely to have. So we
>>> just work it out for ourselves.
>>>
>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up something
>> very useful for a task like lining up those bolts. Caterpillar, for
>> instance, has something like these;
>>
>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>
>> or these
>>
>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>
>
>
> that's not cheap!
>
>

It is if you factor in the time it saves. The reason keith and his merry
men are allowed to fuck about for as long as they want putting bolts in
is because their time is free as they are volunteers.

If someone was paying an hourly rate things would be very different.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 02:33 UTC

On 18/06/2022 11:36 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 17/06/2022 2:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to
>>>>>>> do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste
>>>>>>> wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that
>>>>>> is all you can manage then that's what you have to be content
>>>>>> with. Do you get some sense of achievement copying other peoples
>>>>>> work into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to
>>>>> get the job done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>>
>>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of
>>>> creating software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every
>>>>>>> situation or are their occasions where you have to refer to
>>>>>>> documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>>
>>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>>
>>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would
>>>> be pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we
>>>> had one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123
>>>> revision 6, something which we don't have and are never likely to
>>>> have. So we just work it out for ourselves.
>>>>
>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>
>>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>>
>>> or these
>>>
>>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>>
>>
>>
>> that's not cheap!
>>
>>
>
>
> It is if you factor in the time it saves. The reason keith and his
> merry men are allowed to fuck about for as long as they want putting
> bolts in is because their time is free as they are volunteers.
>
> If someone was paying an hourly rate things would be very different.
>

"Keith and his merry men" lol

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

"So some infantile nonsense and running away again
I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

"once again the dickhead in Coward Castle snipes from behind his
killfile which is all he's capable of doing" -felix on noddy

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 02:47 UTC

On 17/06/2022 5:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 17/6/2022 4:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to
>>>>>>> do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste
>>>>>>> wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that
>>>>>> is all you can manage then that's what you have to be content
>>>>>> with. Do you get some sense of achievement copying other peoples
>>>>>> work into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to
>>>>> get the job done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>>
>>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of
>>>> creating software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every
>>>>>>> situation or are their occasions where you have to refer to
>>>>>>> documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>>
>>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>>
>>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would
>>>> be pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we
>>>> had one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123
>>>> revision 6, something which we don't have and are never likely to
>>>> have. So we just work it out for ourselves.
>>>>
>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>
>>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>>
>>> or these
>>>
>>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>>
>>
>>
>> that's not cheap!
>>
> It is in comparison to the time and effort expended when you don't
> have one. I have several, some I made myself. A couple are made of
> high tensile underground drill rods, you don't break them easily. They
> were made for me by the boilermaker at the underground tin mine in
> Tassie. One end is an aligner, the other a crowbar like chisel end.
> Very heavy duty and, if you made one out of a crowbar, it wouldn't be
> as strong as this thing.

one could think that one/some of Keith's merry men might have the
resources to make them, or could get some made somehow/somewhere

>>
>>>
>>> They come in different sizes up to 25mm.
>>>
>>> I have here a Cat injector removal tool that has the same long taper
>>> as shown above but has a hook at the other end ostensibly for
>>> removing injectors. It is one of my most used tools and hasn't seen
>>> a diesel injector since 1980. Perfect for lining up bolt holes.
>
>
>

--
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"So some infantile nonsense and running away again
I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

"once again the dickhead in Coward Castle snipes from behind his
killfile which is all he's capable of doing" -felix on noddy

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 03:13 UTC

On 18/6/2022 12:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 17/06/2022 5:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 17/6/2022 4:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to
>>>>>>>> do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste
>>>>>>>> wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that
>>>>>>> is all you can manage then that's what you have to be content
>>>>>>> with. Do you get some sense of achievement copying other peoples
>>>>>>> work into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to
>>>>>> get the job done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of
>>>>> creating software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>>>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every
>>>>>>>> situation or are their occasions where you have to refer to
>>>>>>>> documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would
>>>>> be pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we
>>>>> had one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123
>>>>> revision 6, something which we don't have and are never likely to
>>>>> have. So we just work it out for ourselves.
>>>>>
>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>>
>>>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>>>
>>>> or these
>>>>
>>>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that's not cheap!
>>>
>> It is in comparison to the time and effort expended when you don't
>> have one. I have several, some I made myself. A couple are made of
>> high tensile underground drill rods, you don't break them easily. They
>> were made for me by the boilermaker at the underground tin mine in
>> Tassie. One end is an aligner, the other a crowbar like chisel end.
>> Very heavy duty and, if you made one out of a crowbar, it wouldn't be
>> as strong as this thing.
>
>
> one could think that one/some of Keith's merry men might have the
> resources to make them, or could get some made somehow/somewhere
>
Well, one of those shown above is just, in effect, an offset taper that
could be quite easily machined on a lathe. All that would be required
would be a long grade 8 bolt of the specific diameter and you're good to
go. For occasional use it wouldn't need to be made of tool steel, grade
8 would be adequate for the purpose. No shortage of grade 8 bolts in a
Caterpillar workshop. ;-)
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> They come in different sizes up to 25mm.
>>>>
>>>> I have here a Cat injector removal tool that has the same long taper
>>>> as shown above but has a hook at the other end ostensibly for
>>>> removing injectors. It is one of my most used tools and hasn't seen
>>>> a diesel injector since 1980. Perfect for lining up bolt holes.
>>
>>
>>
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: JONZ - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 03:32 UTC

On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
> On 17/06/2022 2:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to
>>>>>>> do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste
>>>>>>> wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that
>>>>>> is all you can manage then that's what you have to be content
>>>>>> with. Do you get some sense of achievement copying other peoples
>>>>>> work into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to get
>>>>> the job done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>>
>>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of creating
>>>> software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every
>>>>>>> situation or are their occasions where you have to refer to
>>>>>>> documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>>
>>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>>
>>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would be
>>>> pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we had
>>>> one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123 revision
>>>> 6, something which we don't have and are never likely to have. So we
>>>> just work it out for ourselves.
>>>>
>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their kit....They`re
new to you eh?. <G>
>>>
>>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>>
>>> or these
>>>
>>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>>
>>
>>
>> that's not cheap!
>>
>>
>
>
> It is if you factor in the time it saves. The reason keith and his merry
> men are allowed to fuck about for as long as they want putting bolts in
> is because their time is free as they are volunteers.
>
> If someone was paying an hourly rate things would be very different.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If pigs had wings!!.............................................

>

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 04:25 UTC

On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>> On 17/06/2022 2:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had
>>>>>>>> to do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and
>>>>>>>> paste wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if
>>>>>>> that is all you can manage then that's what you have to be
>>>>>>> content with. Do you get some sense of achievement copying other
>>>>>>> peoples work into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to
>>>>>> get the job done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of
>>>>> creating software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your
>>>>>>>> Men's shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in
>>>>>>>> every situation or are their occasions where you have to refer
>>>>>>>> to documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would
>>>>> be pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we
>>>>> had one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123
>>>>> revision 6, something which we don't have and are never likely to
>>>>> have. So we just work it out for ourselves.
>>>>>
>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their kit....They`re
> new to you eh?. <G>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>>>
>>>> or these
>>>>
>>>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that's not cheap!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> It is if you factor in the time it saves. The reason keith and his
>> merry men are allowed to fuck about for as long as they want putting
>> bolts in is because their time is free as they are volunteers.
>>
>> If someone was paying an hourly rate things would be very different.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  If pigs had wings!!.............................................
>
>>
>

I see you've put on weight!  (JONZ)

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"So some infantile nonsense and running away again
I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

"once again the dickhead in Coward Castle snipes from behind his
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FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 07:18 UTC

On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:

>>>>>
>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their kit....They`re
> new to you eh?. <G>

For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge, his
experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it seems to
be "transferred"....

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 by: alvey - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 07:45 UTC

On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:18:31 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>  Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their kit....They`re
>> new to you eh?. <G>
>
> For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge, his
> experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it seems to
> be "transferred"....

"transferred" beats your 'imaginary' Fraudster.

While you have provided zero proof of your ownership of El Altona there is
a considerable body of evidence supporting the case that no such place ever
existed. At *best* your "experience" appears to consist of being the gofer
and cleaner at a Honda dealership.

hth

alvey
“How predictable. Really, when it comes down to it, you're nothing but a
loud mouthed soft cock” Fraudster to jonz, 21Feb16

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 08:50 UTC

On 18/06/2022 10:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 17/06/2022 5:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 17/6/2022 4:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had to
>>>>>>>> do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and paste
>>>>>>>> wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if that
>>>>>>> is all you can manage then that's what you have to be content
>>>>>>> with. Do you get some sense of achievement copying other peoples
>>>>>>> work into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to
>>>>>> get the job done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of
>>>>> creating software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your Men's
>>>>>>>> shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in every
>>>>>>>> situation or are their occasions where you have to refer to
>>>>>>>> documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would
>>>>> be pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we
>>>>> had one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123
>>>>> revision 6, something which we don't have and are never likely to
>>>>> have. So we just work it out for ourselves.
>>>>>
>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>>
>>>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>>>
>>>> or these
>>>>
>>>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that's not cheap!
>>>
>> It is in comparison to the time and effort expended when you don't
>> have one. I have several, some I made myself. A couple are made of
>> high tensile underground drill rods, you don't break them easily. They
>> were made for me by the boilermaker at the underground tin mine in
>> Tassie. One end is an aligner, the other a crowbar like chisel end.
>> Very heavy duty and, if you made one out of a crowbar, it wouldn't be
>> as strong as this thing.
>
>
> one could think that one/some of Keith's merry men might have the
> resources to make them, or could get some made somehow/somewhere
>
>

You'd think.

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From: xenol...@optusnet.com.au (Xeno)
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Subject: Re: Obsessed much?
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 by: Xeno - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 09:56 UTC

On 18/6/2022 5:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their kit....They`re
>> new to you eh?. <G>
>
> For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge, his
> experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it seems to
> be "transferred"....
>
Ah Darren, once again you aim at me and shoot your own foot off. I have
had a *podgie* for pretty much most of my post apprenticeship trade
career. During my apprenticeship, the boss supplied such items, post
apprenticeship I have had to supply/make my own. The Caterpillar
podgie/injector remover I have had since 1977, the ones made from drill
rods from circa 1975 and some small ones since 73. A podgie is an
indispensable bit of kit for anyone in the motor trade and especially so
for anyone in trucks and/or earthmovers. If you haven't one handy, a
tapered punch will often suffice for *small jobs*.

BTW Darren, your literacy skills are extremely lacking.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 09:58 UTC

On 18/6/2022 5:45 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:18:31 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>  Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their kit....They`re
>>> new to you eh?. <G>
>>
>> For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge, his
>> experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it seems to
>> be "transferred"....
>
> "transferred" beats your 'imaginary' Fraudster.

Any experience beats Darren's *imaginary* apprenticeships and experience.
>
> While you have provided zero proof of your ownership of El Altona there is
> a considerable body of evidence supporting the case that no such place ever
> existed. At *best* your "experience" appears to consist of being the gofer
> and cleaner at a Honda dealership.
>
> hth
>
>
> alvey
> “How predictable. Really, when it comes down to it, you're nothing but a
> loud mouthed soft cock” Fraudster to jonz, 21Feb16
>
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:12 UTC

On 18/06/2022 7:56 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 18/6/2022 5:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>   Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their
>>> kit....They`re new to you eh?. <G>
>>
>> For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge, his
>> experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it seems
>> to be "transferred"....
>>
> Ah Darren, once again you aim at me and shoot your own foot off. I
> have had a *podgie* for pretty much most of my post apprenticeship
> trade career. During my apprenticeship, the boss supplied such items,
> post apprenticeship I have had to supply/make my own. The Caterpillar
> podgie/injector remover I have had since 1977, the ones made from
> drill rods from circa 1975 and some small ones since 73. A podgie is
> an indispensable bit of kit for anyone in the motor trade and
> especially so for anyone in trucks and/or earthmovers. If you haven't
> one handy, a tapered punch will often suffice for *small jobs*.

where do you do your auto repairs?

>
> BTW Darren, your literacy skills are extremely lacking.
>
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

"So some infantile nonsense and running away again
I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

"once again the dickhead in Coward Castle snipes from behind his
killfile which is all he's capable of doing" -felix on noddy

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:14 UTC

On 18/6/2022 6:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 18/06/2022 10:47 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 17/06/2022 5:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 17/6/2022 4:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 17/06/2022 2:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 17/6/2022 1:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/06/2022 7:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 14/06/2022 5:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 13/06/2022 9:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you're really jealous of the fact that you had
>>>>>>>>> to do a lot of "hard yards" because the ability to cut and
>>>>>>>>> paste wasn't around in your day :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, I choose to do "The hard yards" because it is more
>>>>>>>> interesting than monkey see monkey do, but I suppose that if
>>>>>>>> that is all you can manage then that's what you have to be
>>>>>>>> content with. Do you get some sense of achievement copying other
>>>>>>>> peoples work into the flash memory of and Arduino then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a tool Keith, and you use whatever you need to in order to
>>>>>>> get the job done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only a complete moron ever does things the hard way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why are you fixing up a bodged up restoration of an old truck,
>>>>>> when you could have bought a far better one for the same or less
>>>>>> money, and zero effort. I suspect that the answer is because you
>>>>>> enjoy doing it, same as some people enjoy hitting a little ball
>>>>>> around a paddock with a stick, and I enjoy the challenge of
>>>>>> creating software and fixing up old aircraft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keith, tell me. When you go work on your airplanes in your
>>>>>>>>> Men's shed in QLD, do you instinctively know what to do in
>>>>>>>>> every situation or are their occasions where you have to refer
>>>>>>>>> to documentation that explains the process?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL, what documentation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you never have to revert to any kind of documentation or
>>>>>>> instruction from anyone, and instead do it *all* yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Own any workshop manuals, do you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a workshop manual for the MX-5, for the aircraft, it would
>>>>>> be pointless. Mounting the engine, for instance, the manual, if we
>>>>>> had one, would likely say to use Lockheed special tool xyz123
>>>>>> revision 6, something which we don't have and are never likely to
>>>>>> have. So we just work it out for ourselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.wchristie.com/flange-alignment-pins.html
>>>>>
>>>>> or these
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.shophumm.com/au/marketplace/tools-warehouse-au/mumme-tools-5pop19-19mm-podger-pin-dxf9utsqdd
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that's not cheap!
>>>>
>>> It is in comparison to the time and effort expended when you don't
>>> have one. I have several, some I made myself. A couple are made of
>>> high tensile underground drill rods, you don't break them easily.
>>> They were made for me by the boilermaker at the underground tin mine
>>> in Tassie. One end is an aligner, the other a crowbar like chisel
>>> end. Very heavy duty and, if you made one out of a crowbar, it
>>> wouldn't be as strong as this thing.
>>
>>
>> one could think that one/some of Keith's merry men might have the
>> resources to make them, or could get some made somehow/somewhere
>>
>>
>
> You'd think.
>
You can use long tapered pin punches quite readily and every tool kit
should have a pouch of those in it. Need to have a hex shank in case
they get jammed. A wrench can be use to twist and turn that hex shank.
Want a large one, just buy an old crowbar and use the straight shank.
Just turn or grind a taper on it and you have the perfect *large* podgie
bar.

Of course, if you're doing something large, like an engine, it helps to
have a professional crane sling/lifting tackle that allows incremental
rotation of the engine to assist with alignment when fitting.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:20 UTC

On 18/6/2022 8:12 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 18/06/2022 7:56 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/6/2022 5:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>   Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their
>>>> kit....They`re new to you eh?. <G>
>>>
>>> For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge, his
>>> experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it seems
>>> to be "transferred"....
>>>
>> Ah Darren, once again you aim at me and shoot your own foot off. I
>> have had a *podgie* for pretty much most of my post apprenticeship
>> trade career. During my apprenticeship, the boss supplied such items,
>> post apprenticeship I have had to supply/make my own. The Caterpillar
>> podgie/injector remover I have had since 1977, the ones made from
>> drill rods from circa 1975 and some small ones since 73. A podgie is
>> an indispensable bit of kit for anyone in the motor trade and
>> especially so for anyone in trucks and/or earthmovers. If you haven't
>> one handy, a tapered punch will often suffice for *small jobs*.
>
>
> where do you do your auto repairs?
>
A friend's garage in Diggers Beach. He has garage space for 6 cars and
has a 2 post hoist. But then, I have a Toyota, no need for constant
repairs. If I had a Nissan, different story.
>
>>
>> BTW Darren, your literacy skills are extremely lacking.
>>
>>
>

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Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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From: fel...@goaway.com (Yosemite Sam)
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Subject: Re: Obsessed much?
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 21:39:08 +1000
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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 11:39 UTC

On 18/06/2022 8:20 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 18/6/2022 8:12 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 18/06/2022 7:56 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 18/6/2022 5:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>   Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their
>>>>> kit....They`re new to you eh?. <G>
>>>>
>>>> For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge,
>>>> his experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it
>>>> seems to be "transferred"....
>>>>
>>> Ah Darren, once again you aim at me and shoot your own foot off. I
>>> have had a *podgie* for pretty much most of my post apprenticeship
>>> trade career. During my apprenticeship, the boss supplied such
>>> items, post apprenticeship I have had to supply/make my own. The
>>> Caterpillar podgie/injector remover I have had since 1977, the ones
>>> made from drill rods from circa 1975 and some small ones since 73. A
>>> podgie is an indispensable bit of kit for anyone in the motor trade
>>> and especially so for anyone in trucks and/or earthmovers. If you
>>> haven't one handy, a tapered punch will often suffice for *small jobs*.
>>
>>
>> where do you do your auto repairs?
>>
> A friend's garage in Diggers Beach. He has garage space for 6 cars and
> has a 2 post hoist. But then, I have a Toyota, no need for constant
> repairs. If I had a Nissan, different story.

I meant jobs

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Re: Obsessed much?

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From: xenol...@optusnet.com.au (Xeno)
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Subject: Re: Obsessed much?
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 21:59:07 +1000
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 by: Xeno - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 11:59 UTC

On 18/6/2022 9:39 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 18/06/2022 8:20 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/6/2022 8:12 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2022 7:56 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 18/6/2022 5:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 18/06/2022 1:32 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/18/2022 11:36 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Depending on the size of the bolts, you could likely make up
>>>>>>>>> something very useful for a task like lining up those bolts.
>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar, for instance, has something like these;
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Anyone worth their salt has a podgie or two in their
>>>>>> kit....They`re new to you eh?. <G>
>>>>>
>>>>> For a man who continually bangs on about his level of knowledge,
>>>>> his experience is remarkably lacking. Perhaps that's why most of it
>>>>> seems to be "transferred"....
>>>>>
>>>> Ah Darren, once again you aim at me and shoot your own foot off. I
>>>> have had a *podgie* for pretty much most of my post apprenticeship
>>>> trade career. During my apprenticeship, the boss supplied such
>>>> items, post apprenticeship I have had to supply/make my own. The
>>>> Caterpillar podgie/injector remover I have had since 1977, the ones
>>>> made from drill rods from circa 1975 and some small ones since 73. A
>>>> podgie is an indispensable bit of kit for anyone in the motor trade
>>>> and especially so for anyone in trucks and/or earthmovers. If you
>>>> haven't one handy, a tapered punch will often suffice for *small jobs*.
>>>
>>>
>>> where do you do your auto repairs?
>>>
>> A friend's garage in Diggers Beach. He has garage space for 6 cars and
>> has a 2 post hoist. But then, I have a Toyota, no need for constant
>> repairs. If I had a Nissan, different story.
>
>
> I meant jobs
>
>
As in jobs for OP???

In my garage if appropriate, occasionally in the Diggers Beach garage,
at the people's houses/farms. Wherever.

--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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