Asking for a friend.

11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?

Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

> 11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
> beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...
>
> Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
> schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:
>
> > 11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
> > beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
> Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
> Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
> Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
> Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
> motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various
patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.

--

Phil, London

On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
> In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...
>>
>> Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
>> schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:
>>
>>> 11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
>>> beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
>> Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
>> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
>> Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
>> Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
>> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
>> Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
>> motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.
>
> Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various
> patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.
>

That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?

On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:

> On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
>> In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...
>>>
>>> Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
>>> schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:
>>>
>>>> 11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
>>>> beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
>>> Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
>>> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
>>> Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
>>> Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
>>> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
>>> Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
>>> motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.
>>
>> Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various
>> patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.
>>
>
>
> That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
> an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?

That was my immediate thought too.

Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
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priority for ATC. I say safety is noise abatement. You have no
idea how much noise it makes to have a 737 fall out of the sky
after an accident."
-- anonymous air traffic controller

On 07/12/2021 12:07, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>> In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...
>>>>
>>>> Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
>>>> schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> 11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
>>>>> beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
>>>> Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
>>>> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
>>>> Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
>>>> Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
>>>> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
>>>> Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
>>>> motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.
>>>
>>> Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various
>>> patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.
>>>
>>
>>
>> That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
>> an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?
>
> That was my immediate thought too.
>
> Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie
>
Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop was
powered down and the mains switched off!

Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.

On 07/12/2021 13:36, Andy wrote:
> On 07/12/2021 12:07, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>> On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>>> In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
>>>>> schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
>>>>>> beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
>>>>> Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
>>>>> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
>>>>> Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
>>>>> Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
>>>>> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
>>>>> Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
>>>>> motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.
>>>>
>>>> Everyy 20 *minutes*?  That probably rules out a "beep code", where
>>>> various
>>>> patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
>>> an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?
>>
>> That was my immediate thought too.
>>
>> Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.
>>
>>      Cheers - Jaimie
>>
> Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
> said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop was
> powered down and the mains switched off!
>
> Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
> itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.

Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.

On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:
>>>
>> Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
>> said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop
>> was powered down and the mains switched off!
>>
>> Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
>> itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.
>
>
> Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.
>

<smirk>

In the long past I have been to a houses of elderly folks that have
smoke alarms bleeping away for low batteries.

I've offered to help change it, but no - they've been told to call the
fire brigade to get it changed. There's one lady that won't do that, as
in the last visit from them, she got a rude unwelcome lecture about her
paper rubbish hoarding habit. I can't get her out of this catch-22 (must
have another go!)

Problem is the battery beep is rather loud. And for also someone going
deaf with age, that repeated noise must exacerbate the decline. (It
would send me loopy).

--
Adrian C

On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:
> On 07/12/2021 13:36, Andy wrote:
>> On 07/12/2021 12:07, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>>> On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>>>> In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
>>>>>> schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
>>>>>>> beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
>>>>>> Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker
>>>>>> (buzzer) on
>>>>>> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
>>>>>> Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
>>>>>> Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
>>>>>> Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
>>>>>> motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyy 20 *minutes*?  That probably rules out a "beep code", where
>>>>> various
>>>>> patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
>>>> an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?
>>>
>>> That was my immediate thought too.
>>>
>>> Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.
>>>
>>>      Cheers - Jaimie
>>>
>> Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
>> said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop
>> was powered down and the mains switched off!
>>
>> Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
>> itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.
>
>
> Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.
>
>
I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.

On 07/12/2021 18:03, Andy wrote:

>> Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.
>>
>>
> I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.

The batteries have lower capacity when it's cold, so the beeping can
come and go according to the weather/heating.

In article <FuOdnc26lcNxPDL8nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
> On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:
> > Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.
> >
> >
> I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.

If it happens again, ask him to take the laptop into another room, and
to see if the noise moves with it, or stays in the original room!
--
Tony Mountifield
Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org

On 09/12/2021 09:19, Tony Mountifield wrote:
> In article <FuOdnc26lcNxPDL8nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
> Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
>> On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:
>>> Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.
>>>
>>>
>> I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.
>
> If it happens again, ask him to take the laptop into another room, and
> to see if the noise moves with it, or stays in the original room!
>

The problem is that single beeps are hard to direction locate. I've had
a smoke alarm confuse me for hours, if not days.

I find timing them, and, if regular, being prepared for the next one the
best location strategy.

On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000, Andy <user@example.net> wrote:

>Asking for a friend.
>
>11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
>beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?

My own experience of strange regular beeps has been related to
bluetooth effects.
--

Mike